Re: My 7 year old aspieis having a new round of acting out.

[Guest guest]

Kids with AS go through so many ups and downs and it is very hard to figure out

what is causing it and what is helping it. No medication will help if the

environment is wrong. It would help to find out if there have been any changes

at school that would upset him. Also concerta can make anxiety worse. When my

son was 7 we started him on Lexapro. It is an anti-anxiety/anti-depressant

medication. It has worked well. He started Tenex for attention last year and

that has been great. We started the lexapro when was in a school where the

staff were clueless! Cluelessness in any staff people can wreak havoc. If the

principal and assistant principal do not get it they could be pressuring the

teacher to do something different like treat your son as a behavior problem

rather than a child with a disability. Does your son have an IEP? Sorry, I'm

sure you've probably already covered a lot of this but I have a terrible memory

for these things in this group. There are SO many people to keep track of.

Miriam

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> My son was diagnosed with AS about a year and a half ago and we tried to avoid

the medication path, but we ended up having to put him on Conceta and Tenex

about six months ago. He almost imediatly started to settle down at school and

his attention span increased and his agessive behavior greatly improved; but,

now he is acting out again and is becoming more violent and seems to be more

moody and aguminitive, and almost never smiles anymore. I know that sometimes

meds stop working and you have to try others until you find the right one; but,

I want to know what we could try in the meantime, while he gose though the

adjustment period; we can't keep him out of school, but if he gose he will just

keep getting into trouble ( his teacher seems to understand, BUT the princapal

and asst-principal don't).

>

[Guest guest]

Hi! I don't know anything about Tenex, but my 11 year old AS/ADHD son is on

Concerta, and has been for the past 2 years. We have had to consistently

increase his dosage as it would start to not work after a while. We started on

18mg, and we are increasing to 54mg today. It is so scary to have him on these

meds, as he also started on Zoloft recently for his anxiety and depression, but

at this point he is actually begging for an increase in his Concerta because he

hates to keep on getting into trouble in school for his inability to focus and

his impulsiveness. I don't know how much more they can increase his dosage...we

may have to try a different medication soon, but this is the one that has worked

well for him. Good luck to you.

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> My son was diagnosed with AS about a year and a half ago and we tried to avoid

the medication path, but we ended up having to put him on Conceta and Tenex

about six months ago. He almost imediatly started to settle down at school and

his attention span increased and his agessive behavior greatly improved; but,

now he is acting out again and is becoming more violent and seems to be more

moody and aguminitive, and almost never smiles anymore. I know that sometimes

meds stop working and you have to try others until you find the right one; but,

I want to know what we could try in the meantime, while he gose though the

adjustment period; we can't keep him out of school, but if he gose he will just

keep getting into trouble ( his teacher seems to understand, BUT the princapal

and asst-principal don't).

>

[Guest guest]

Hey my son took concerts and got all the way up to 54 mg and it didn't

work. We were told that most stimulant meds don't work for Aspies so he's been

on Stratera now for three years and it works. We have to keep the dose low

because at 60 mg it made him too agitated. He takes 25 mg in the morning and it

helps. Hope you can find something that works.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

<craftmasterk@...> wrote:

>Hi! I don't know anything about Tenex, but my 11 year old AS/ADHD son is on

Concerta, and has been for the past 2 years. We have had to consistently

increase his dosage as it would start to not work after a while. We started on

18mg, and we are increasing to 54mg today. It is so scary to have him on these

meds, as he also started on Zoloft recently for his anxiety and depression, but

at this point he is actually begging for an increase in his Concerta because he

hates to keep on getting into trouble in school for his inability to focus and

his impulsiveness. I don't know how much more they can increase his dosage...we

may have to try a different medication soon, but this is the one that has worked

well for him. Good luck to you.

>

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>> My son was diagnosed with AS about a year and a half ago and we tried to

avoid the medication path, but we ended up having to put him on Conceta and

Tenex about six months ago. He almost imediatly started to settle down at school

and his attention span increased and his agessive behavior greatly improved;

but, now he is acting out again and is becoming more violent and seems to be

more moody and aguminitive, and almost never smiles anymore. I know that

sometimes meds stop working and you have to try others until you find the right

one; but, I want to know what we could try in the meantime, while he gose though

the adjustment period; we can't keep him out of school, but if he gose he will

just keep getting into trouble ( his teacher seems to understand, BUT the

princapal and asst-principal don't).

>>

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[Guest guest]

If he has an IEP you can ask for breaks in his day, to limit

sustain attention to no more than 20 minutes and then a break.

Stimulants can increase agitiation and aggression when the

doses go up in kids with AS. It is hard to say if an

increase is going to help. If not you can try an anti-depressant

for the mood/irritability issues.

In the antidepressant class prozac has been the most studied in

kids with AS and has been shown to reduce irritability,

outburts, compulsiveness ....more doctors seem to like

to prescribe newer SSRIs like zoloft, celexa, lexapro ...

there is not the quantity of clinical trial data but

they work too.

Pam

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> My son was diagnosed with AS about a year and a half ago and we tried to avoid

the medication path, but we ended up having to put him on Conceta and Tenex

about six months ago. He almost imediatly started to settle down at school and

his attention span increased and his agessive behavior greatly improved; but,

now he is acting out again and is becoming more violent and seems to be more

moody and aguminitive, and almost never smiles anymore. I know that sometimes

meds stop working and you have to try others until you find the right one; but,

I want to know what we could try in the meantime, while he gose though the

adjustment period; we can't keep him out of school, but if he gose he will just

keep getting into trouble ( his teacher seems to understand, BUT the princapal

and asst-principal don't).

>

[Guest guest]

Like. Pam said, stimulant meds don't often do well with AS kids. At least that's

what our son's doctor has told us. He is almost 80 and has been treating AS kids

for over thirty years. In our case he was definitely right. Since kindergarten

our son went from ritalin to several doses of concerta and adderall. We recently

even tried vyvance and it mad him act just like you described your son. Ask your

Dr about stratera, added with zoloft and resperidon has worked the best. Hope

this helps, just my thoughts.

~ne

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

Pamela <susanonderko@...> wrote:

>If he has an IEP you can ask for breaks in his day, to limit

>sustain attention to no more than 20 minutes and then a break.

>

>Stimulants can increase agitiation and aggression when the

>doses go up in kids with AS. It is hard to say if an

>increase is going to help. If not you can try an anti-depressant

>for the mood/irritability issues.

>

>In the antidepressant class prozac has been the most studied in

>kids with AS and has been shown to reduce irritability,

>outburts, compulsiveness ....more doctors seem to like

>to prescribe newer SSRIs like zoloft, celexa, lexapro ...

>there is not the quantity of clinical trial data but

>they work too.

>

>Pam

>

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>> My son was diagnosed with AS about a year and a half ago and we tried to

avoid the medication path, but we ended up having to put him on Conceta and

Tenex about six months ago. He almost imediatly started to settle down at school

and his attention span increased and his agessive behavior greatly improved;

but, now he is acting out again and is becoming more violent and seems to be

more moody and aguminitive, and almost never smiles anymore. I know that

sometimes meds stop working and you have to try others until you find the right

one; but, I want to know what we could try in the meantime, while he gose though

the adjustment period; we can't keep him out of school, but if he gose he will

just keep getting into trouble ( his teacher seems to understand, BUT the

princapal and asst-principal don't).

>>

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[Guest guest]

Does your son have any depression with the Stratera? We were told it could

increase our son's depression so they are avoiding that one. I am not sure

which one they will try next...I guess they can all have their side effects.

Thanks!

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> >> My son was diagnosed with AS about a year and a half ago and we tried to

avoid the medication path, but we ended up having to put him on Conceta and

Tenex about six months ago. He almost imediatly started to settle down at school

and his attention span increased and his agessive behavior greatly improved;

but, now he is acting out again and is becoming more violent and seems to be

more moody and aguminitive, and almost never smiles anymore. I know that

sometimes meds stop working and you have to try others until you find the right

one; but, I want to know what we could try in the meantime, while he gose though

the adjustment period; we can't keep him out of school, but if he gose he will

just keep getting into trouble ( his teacher seems to understand, BUT the

princapal and asst-principal don't).

> >>

>

[Guest guest]

No not from the Stratera directly. He had an issue for a while with depression but it was mostly due to school issues. We had to move him to a differenct school and have finally somewhat ironed out a lot of issues. But he also takes Zoloft which we had to increase anyway for anxiety so I'm sure it also counter acts the depression.

It is a constant trial and error situation with medications and dosages. But of all the things we have tried this in the only one that we've seen improvements with. ne

From: <craftmasterk@...>Subject: ( ) Re: My 7 year old aspieis having a new round of acting out. Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 1:00 PM

Does your son have any depression with the Stratera? We were told it could increase our son's depression so they are avoiding that one. I am not sure which one they will try next...I guess they can all have their side effects. Thanks!> >>> >> My son was diagnosed with AS about a year and a half ago and we tried to avoid the medication path, but we ended up having to put him on Conceta and Tenex about six months ago. He almost imediatly started to settle down at school and his attention span increased and his agessive behavior greatly improved; but, now he is acting out again and is becoming more violent and seems to be more moody and aguminitive, and almost never smiles anymore. I know that sometimes meds stop working and you have to try others until you find the right one; but, I want to know what we could try in the meantime, while he gose though the adjustment period; we can't keep him out of school, but if he gose he will just keep getting into trouble ( his teacher seems to understand, BUT the princapal and

asst-principal don't).> >>>

[Guest guest]

I homeschool and my son is on Prozac. Go to your Dr, you may have to get his

meds changed. Also, I found out that my son was getting bullied horribly when

he attened school- its our nations new silent killer, our kids dont tell us

about it.

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> My son was diagnosed with AS about a year and a half ago and we tried to avoid

the medication path, but we ended up having to put him on Conceta and Tenex

about six months ago. He almost imediatly started to settle down at school and

his attention span increased and his agessive behavior greatly improved; but,

now he is acting out again and is becoming more violent and seems to be more

moody and aguminitive, and almost never smiles anymore. I know that sometimes

meds stop working and you have to try others until you find the right one; but,

I want to know what we could try in the meantime, while he gose though the

adjustment period; we can't keep him out of school, but if he gose he will just

keep getting into trouble ( his teacher seems to understand, BUT the princapal

and asst-principal don't).

>