So Aspie...

[Guest guest]

Okay...another funny story....

My son started " dating " a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each

other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he

took them to the movies. He said she was cute.

Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it

seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like

it " ....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg...My

husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like

that...always say YES....

I got the biggest chuckle out of this...

jan

[Guest guest]

Oh man, that's wonderful. he he.

Robin

From: jrushen <jrushen@...>Subject: ( ) So Aspie... Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 4:49 PM

Okay...another funny story....My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....I got the biggest chuckle out of this...jan__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I heard a similar story of a teenage Aspie, his girlfriend asked.. does my bum look big in this..you can guess the answer. lol. was given the same advice by his Dad.

From: jrushen <jrushen@...>Subject: ( ) So Aspie... Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 10:49 PM

Okay...another funny story....My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....I got the biggest chuckle out of this...jan

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He he.........Love it.

From: jrushen <jrushen (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) So Aspie... Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 10:49 PM

Okay...another funny story....My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....I got the biggest chuckle out of this...jan__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

My darling son has come away with a few crackers, I have been told I need to see Leo, I thought it was one of his friends, but it turns out it was Leo off the Tresemme (shampoo) advert that sorts out a womans frizzy hair.

I apparently also need to go to weight watchers and would benefit from some under eye wrinkle cream.

Lovely lol

From: jrushen <jrushen (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) So Aspie... Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 10:49 PM

Okay...another funny story....My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....I got the biggest chuckle out of this...jan____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

[Guest guest]

That's fricken funny. Leo....he he.

My son once asked if he could have his allowance early so that he could order me some weight loss meals off of the TV. Thanks, son. he he

From: jrushen <jrushen (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) So Aspie... Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 10:49 PM

Okay...another funny story....My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....I got the biggest chuckle out of this...jan____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

[Guest guest]

Classic.

OUr son 6, likes to be the "host" if we are playing games, can be hilarious, recently his Dad answered lambs to a question and never got the points cause the card said lamb.

On the up side G recently told my since I started the gym my fat tummy is getting a bit smaller. lol

From: jrushen <jrushen (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) So Aspie... Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 10:49 PM

Okay...another funny story....My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....I got the biggest chuckle out of this...jan____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

[Guest guest]

Dear Parents;

See "Adam", the movie recently out. about an Aspe. It is so true to life it hurts. Well Adam was too honest in many places in his replies to some things.

T.

( ) So Aspie...

Okay...another funny story....My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg...My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....I got the biggest chuckle out of this...jan

[Guest guest]

We just saw the movie " Adam. " The good: male actor does a super job and much of

his behavior is subtle, like not looking people in the eye. Would give someone a

much better understanding of Aspergers. The bad: a girl this

gorgeous/functioning falls in love with him? Where is that person for my son? No

one NT, that looks like this is at all interested in him...sorry, my cynical

side coming out.

What I learned from it? That the fact that my son has now done over 12

interviews and been rejected in every one, sent out at least 50+ resumes and

been hired then fired in two days is a learning experience that maybe next time

he has to look for a job, he'll know how to do it better and on his own without

my help. He still has no job.

Today he had interview and his cover letter says he learned a " good work ethic

at Job Corps. " So the interviewer asks well what IS your work ethic. OMG, the

answer that he gave was so off the wall...I guess we can kiss another job

opportunity goodbye. See, it's not enough to know how to do the job. He has to

pass a " corporate compatiblity test. " Which he could not. And give definitions

to ethics ...this is to work in a fondue restaurant. I guess it is going to be

menial labor for him. Because he cannot pass this other crap they throw at him

that has NOTHING to do with being able to do a job.

Sue in Tn

>

> Dear Parents;

> See " Adam " , the movie recently out. about an Aspe. It is so true to life

it hurts. Well Adam was too honest in many places in his replies to some things.

>

> T.

> ( ) So Aspie...

>

>

> Okay...another funny story....

>

> My son started " dating " a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing

each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he

took them to the movies. He said she was cute.

>

> Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it

seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it " ....and

guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg...My husband says

to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always

say YES....

>

> I got the biggest chuckle out of this...

>

> jan

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

Would your son be willing to practice an interview with you. I know there are books out there and probably websites about job hunting....and interviews. Maybe if you and he checked them out and practiced ...he would get better. Just a thought.

My heart goes out to you....

Janice Rushen

"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"

From: Mimi <sue@...>Subject: ( ) Re: So Aspie... Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 4:19 PM

We just saw the movie "Adam." The good: male actor does a super job and much of his behavior is subtle, like not looking people in the eye. Would give someone a much better understanding of Aspergers. The bad: a girl this gorgeous/functionin g falls in love with him? Where is that person for my son? No one NT, that looks like this is at all interested in him...sorry, my cynical side coming out.What I learned from it? That the fact that my son has now done over 12 interviews and been rejected in every one, sent out at least 50+ resumes and been hired then fired in two days is a learning experience that maybe next time he has to look for a job, he'll know how to do it better and on his own without my help. He still has no job. Today he had interview and his cover letter says he learned a "good work ethic at Job Corps." So the interviewer asks well what IS your work ethic. OMG, the answer that he gave was so off the wall...I guess we

can kiss another job opportunity goodbye. See, it's not enough to know how to do the job. He has to pass a "corporate compatiblity test." Which he could not. And give definitions to ethics ...this is to work in a fondue restaurant. I guess it is going to be menial labor for him. Because he cannot pass this other crap they throw at him that has NOTHING to do with being able to do a job.Sue in Tn>> Dear Parents;> See "Adam", the movie recently out. about an Aspe. It is so true to life it hurts. Well Adam was too honest in many places in his replies to some things.> > T.> ( ) So Aspie...> > > Okay...another funny story....> > My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.> > Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....> > I got the biggest

chuckle out of this...> > jan>

[Guest guest]

Yeah...my son says I am fat too....I had a c-section and it is so hard to lose that little pouch under the scar.....oh well.

Janice Rushen

"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"

From: jrushen <jrushen (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) So Aspie... Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 10:49 PM

Okay...another funny story....My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....I got the biggest chuckle out of this...jan____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

[Guest guest]

He he. How nice of "G"......he he

From: jrushen <jrushen (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) So Aspie... Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 10:49 PM

Okay...another funny story....My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....I got the biggest chuckle out of this...jan____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry, Sue.

Did he have the latest interview THROUGH Job Corps? I mean, do they let you know of places that will accept interviews with Job Corps people? (Did that make sense)????

Darnit.

Hugs to you.

From: Mimi <sue@...>Subject: ( ) Re: So Aspie... Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 3:19 PM

We just saw the movie "Adam." The good: male actor does a super job and much of his behavior is subtle, like not looking people in the eye. Would give someone a much better understanding of Aspergers. The bad: a girl this gorgeous/functionin g falls in love with him? Where is that person for my son? No one NT, that looks like this is at all interested in him...sorry, my cynical side coming out.What I learned from it? That the fact that my son has now done over 12 interviews and been rejected in every one, sent out at least 50+ resumes and been hired then fired in two days is a learning experience that maybe next time he has to look for a job, he'll know how to do it better and on his own without my help. He still has no job. Today he had interview and his cover letter says he learned a "good work ethic at Job Corps." So the interviewer asks well what IS your work ethic. OMG, the answer that he gave was so off the wall...I guess we

can kiss another job opportunity goodbye. See, it's not enough to know how to do the job. He has to pass a "corporate compatiblity test." Which he could not. And give definitions to ethics ...this is to work in a fondue restaurant. I guess it is going to be menial labor for him. Because he cannot pass this other crap they throw at him that has NOTHING to do with being able to do a job.Sue in Tn>> Dear Parents;> See "Adam", the movie recently out. about an Aspe. It is so true to life it hurts. Well Adam was too honest in many places in his replies to some things.> > T.> ( ) So Aspie...> > > Okay...another funny story....> > My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.> > Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....> > I got the biggest

chuckle out of this...> > jan>__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

A great movie on asperger's is 'Mozart and the whale'. My son's Dr suggested it and it was wonderful! And it was written by an aspire and based on his life, which makes it even better. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: "Mimi" <sue@...>Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:19:03 -0000< >Subject: ( ) Re: So Aspie... We just saw the movie " Adam. " The good: male actor does a super job and much of his behavior is subtle, like not looking people in the eye. Would give someone a much better understanding of Aspergers. The bad: a girl this gorgeous/functioning falls in love with him? Where is that person for my son? No one NT, that looks like this is at all interested in him...sorry, my cynical side coming out.What I learned from it? That the fact that my son has now done over 12 interviews and been rejected in every one, sent out at least 50+ resumes and been hired then fired in two days is a learning experience that maybe next time he has to look for a job, he'll know how to do it better and on his own without my help. He still has no job. Today he had interview and his cover letter says he learned a " good work ethic at Job Corps. " So the interviewer asks well what IS your work ethic. OMG, the answer that he gave was so off the wall...I guess we can kiss another job opportunity goodbye. See, it's not enough to know how to do the job. He has to pass a " corporate compatiblity test. " Which he could not. And give definitions to ethics ...this is to work in a fondue restaurant. I guess it is going to be menial labor for him. Because he cannot pass this other crap they throw at him that has NOTHING to do with being able to do a job.Sue in Tn>> Dear Parents;> See " Adam " , the movie recently out. about an Aspe. It is so true to life it hurts. Well Adam was too honest in many places in his replies to some things.> > T.> ( ) So Aspie...> > > Okay...another funny story....> > My son started " dating " a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.> > Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it " ....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg...My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....> > I got the biggest chuckle out of this...> > jan>

[Guest guest]

Hey.......I wish I had a little pouch...................I wish I could say that I had a c-section scar and got the pouch......darnit!!!!!!!!!

I'm just pitiful and chunkyyyyy. Hee hee.

From: jrushen <jrushen (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) So Aspie... Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 10:49 PM

Okay...another funny story....My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....I got the biggest chuckle out of this...jan____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

[Guest guest]

I have quite a lovely "front butt"..............he he

From: jrushen <jrushen (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) So Aspie... Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 10:49 PM

Okay...another funny story....My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....I got the biggest chuckle out of this...jan____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the support!

He gets nothing from Job Corps. In other JC Centers around the country, and for

other vocations, they do have links with employers. But unfortunately, not here

and not culinary. We get a call every two weeks from Gadsden Job Corps to see if

he has found a job. She is very " sympathetic. " However did mention that last

time that perhaps he should have never been accepted to Job Corps!

We can't get a return email or phone call from his " Job Counselor " here in our

city. He expects DS to tell him when he's had interviews/made applications (and

I am sure he checks off on his form somewhere so that it looks like he is doing

something) and he sends an email occasionally that says only " that sounds good. "

I have sent two emails reminding him that he was supposed to call the facility

back where DS failed the " compatiblity " test to see WHAT he failed, HOW he

failed, if there is a workaround. But counselor called once, left message, that

was it. I have left phone reminders, and email reminders. Do you think they

would talk to " mom? "

The other one we are " working " with who is a Disablity Program Navigator at the

Southeast Career Center, same thing.

They don't get DS interviews. Every single interview or application that has

been sent is done by DS and ME. Every lead, every cold call, all of it.

Both of them supposedly worked with him on interview questions, but that

consisted of giving him a list of questions and answers on a piece of paper or

looking at his resume. And then declaring " he presents well. " Yeah, well ask him

to explain what his work " ethics " are. How do you plan for a question like that!

This is his weakest area to use language in this way. He can make a conversation

and his work ethic actually IS very good. He is ALWAYS first to volunteer, which

is mentioned in cover letter. But instead interviwer asked him to " define " his

work ethic...

I don't know how to help him interview any more than the little I have

done...don't know where to go or what else to do.

When he was in school and we suffered through IEPS and I thought it was like h_

_ _ on earth dealing with teachers, specialists, etc. there were, at least, laws

that protected him, that you could fall back on, or people on your side you

could call on. Now, that he has walked " through that gate " and out into

adulthood, there is NOTHING. It is like walking into outer space, untethered.

Thanks for letting me rant...I never saw this coming. When he went to Job Corps

I thought it would open all kinds of doors. And maybe it will down the line, but

it is a long hard road in getting there.

Sue in TN

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hurts. Well Adam was too honest in many places in his replies to some things.

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each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he

took them to the movies. He said she was cute.

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seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it " ....and

guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says

to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always

say YES....

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[Guest guest]

Sue, regarding those local agencies " helping " him (job counselor and that

disability place), are they part of any state agency? If so, I'd call the state

office that is over either and ask just WHAT the local office is supposed to be

doing to help your son, etc. If local agency only, then have you asked for the

director? I'd go over the heads of those not returning calls/emails. He

sounds like he would really benefit from a job coach/aide too.

Just quick thoughts. And ((((hugs)))) as my son will be doing job hunting

sooner or later, and then needing to keep one....!

>

> Thanks for the support!

>

> He gets nothing from Job Corps. In other JC Centers around the country, and

for other vocations, they do have links with employers. But unfortunately, not

here and not culinary. We get a call every two weeks from Gadsden Job Corps to

see if he has found a job. She is very " sympathetic. " However did mention that

last time that perhaps he should have never been accepted to Job Corps!

>

> We can't get a return email or phone call from his " Job Counselor " here in our

city. He expects DS to tell him when he's had interviews/made applications (and

I am sure he checks off on his form somewhere so that it looks like he is doing

something) and he sends

[Guest guest]

ROFL! Well, she asked! <GG>

 Roxanna

" The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do

nothing. " E. Burke

( ) So Aspie...

Okay...another funny story....

My son started " dating " a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and

seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My

husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.

Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened.

Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do

you like it " ....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going

out....omg...My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks

good or something like that...always say YES....

I got the biggest chuckle out of this...

jan

[Guest guest]

Well,,,,,Sue.......you've just scared the ba-jeeeezies out of me......he he.

Just kidding.

I'm, again, so sorry for this.

Is there any way that you could go to Social Services? I wonder if there is a "Disability" unit or "Adult" unit that could help with anything?

Here, we have an "Aging and Disability Resource Center". I don't know what they could actually DO,,,,,but I know that name.

Keep us posted, please.

You are such a good mom.............I keep wanting to say to you, that maybe you could go in with him to the interview, explaining that although a mom showing up for an interview is NOT the thing to do, that you HAVE to, to help him with his skills. That you've worked with JC and "blah blah". Explain his strengths, yet let him know that socially, "this" is how he is and that he needs a chance. Would that be a possibility?

Darnit.

I know that there are places that hire people with disabilities...........but they are people with obvious, "more severe" disabilities.......

What about the ones that have the "hidden" ones?

Ick.

Stomach hurting again. Is it time for a cocktail, yet?

Robin

From: Mimi <sue@...>Subject: ( ) Re: So Aspie... Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 9:05 AM

Thanks for the support! He gets nothing from Job Corps. In other JC Centers around the country, and for other vocations, they do have links with employers. But unfortunately, not here and not culinary. We get a call every two weeks from Gadsden Job Corps to see if he has found a job. She is very "sympathetic. " However did mention that last time that perhaps he should have never been accepted to Job Corps!We can't get a return email or phone call from his "Job Counselor" here in our city. He expects DS to tell him when he's had interviews/made applications (and I am sure he checks off on his form somewhere so that it looks like he is doing something) and he sends an email occasionally that says only "that sounds good." I have sent two emails reminding him that he was supposed to call the facility back where DS failed the "compatiblity" test to see WHAT he failed, HOW he failed, if there is a workaround. But counselor called once,

left message, that was it. I have left phone reminders, and email reminders. Do you think they would talk to "mom?"The other one we are "working" with who is a Disablity Program Navigator at the Southeast Career Center, same thing. They don't get DS interviews. Every single interview or application that has been sent is done by DS and ME. Every lead, every cold call, all of it. Both of them supposedly worked with him on interview questions, but that consisted of giving him a list of questions and answers on a piece of paper or looking at his resume. And then declaring "he presents well." Yeah, well ask him to explain what his work "ethics" are. How do you plan for a question like that! This is his weakest area to use language in this way. He can make a conversation and his work ethic actually IS very good. He is ALWAYS first to volunteer, which is mentioned in cover letter. But instead interviwer asked him to "define" his work

ethic...I don't know how to help him interview any more than the little I have done...don't know where to go or what else to do.When he was in school and we suffered through IEPS and I thought it was like h_ _ _ on earth dealing with teachers, specialists, etc. there were, at least, laws that protected him, that you could fall back on, or people on your side you could call on. Now, that he has walked "through that gate" and out into adulthood, there is NOTHING. It is like walking into outer space, untethered. Thanks for letting me rant...I never saw this coming. When he went to Job Corps I thought it would open all kinds of doors. And maybe it will down the line, but it is a long hard road in getting there.Sue in TN> >> > Dear Parents;> > See "Adam", the movie recently out. about an Aspe. It is so true to life it hurts. Well Adam was too honest in many places in his replies to some things.> > > > T.> > ( ) So Aspie...> > > > > > Okay...another

funny story....> > > > My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.> > > > Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....> > > > I got the biggest chuckle out of this...> > > > jan> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __>

[Guest guest]

Job Corps is federal...Disability Program Navigator is state. Did go over his

head once because neither predecessor or he would return calls. He did get right

back to me after that phone call. That might be a good idea...she is a mom from

school where son used to go. I just want a job description of what he

(disability program navigator) is supposed to do.

Any idea where/how I can find a job coach that would work with him a little more

intensively? I am willing to do a lot, but difficult to put myself into role of

stranger.

Thanks,

Sue in TN

> >

> > Thanks for the support!

> >

> > He gets nothing from Job Corps. In other JC Centers around the country, and

for other vocations, they do have links with employers. But unfortunately, not

here and not culinary. We get a call every two weeks from Gadsden Job Corps to

see if he has found a job. She is very " sympathetic. " However did mention that

last time that perhaps he should have never been accepted to Job Corps!

> >

> > We can't get a return email or phone call from his " Job Counselor " here in

our city. He expects DS to tell him when he's had interviews/made applications

(and I am sure he checks off on his form somewhere so that it looks like he is

doing something) and he sends

>

[Guest guest]

What about Goodwill....this is a non-profit group...they came to our school and they are helping several students find job...and one of them has AS....I will check into it more for you.

Can you go back to his high school and ask for some resources to help him.

I also know here a lot of down syndrome kids work at a place called Burnely Workshop....they put things together ....it is non-profit. And, another student who has down syndrome was working in the college library. The govern't should have some work programs for our kids too. Have you check with the Welfare Office and/or Social Security office.

And, don't forget ....it is a bad market out there....a lot of people out of work and there are not a lot of jobs available.

Jan

<font face="arial black" color="#bf00bf">Janice Rushen</font>

<font face="Arial Black" color="#bf00bf"></font> & nbsp;

<em><font face="Arial Black" color="#7f007f">"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"</font></em>

From: and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...> Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 8:29:16 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Re: So Aspie...

Well,,,,,Sue. ......you' ve just scared the ba-jeeeezies out of me......he he.

Just kidding.

I'm, again, so sorry for this.

Is there any way that you could go to Social Services? I wonder if there is a "Disability" unit or "Adult" unit that could help with anything?

Here, we have an "Aging and Disability Resource Center". I don't know what they could actually DO,,,,,but I know that name.

Keep us posted, please.

You are such a good mom......... ....I keep wanting to say to you, that maybe you could go in with him to the interview, explaining that although a mom showing up for an interview is NOT the thing to do, that you HAVE to, to help him with his skills. That you've worked with JC and "blah blah". Explain his strengths, yet let him know that socially, "this" is how he is and that he needs a chance. Would that be a possibility?

Darnit.

I know that there are places that hire people with disabilities. ......... .but they are people with obvious, "more severe" disabilities. ......

What about the ones that have the "hidden" ones?

Ick.

Stomach hurting again. Is it time for a cocktail, yet?

Robin

From: Mimi <sue@chasinglewisand clark.com>Subject: ( ) Re: So Aspie... Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 9:05 AM

Thanks for the support! He gets nothing from Job Corps. In other JC Centers around the country, and for other vocations, they do have links with employers. But unfortunately, not here and not culinary. We get a call every two weeks from Gadsden Job Corps to see if he has found a job. She is very "sympathetic. " However did mention that last time that perhaps he should have never been accepted to Job Corps!We can't get a return email or phone call from his "Job Counselor" here in our city. He expects DS to tell him when he's had interviews/made applications (and I am sure he checks off on his form somewhere so that it looks like he is doing something) and he sends an email occasionally that says only "that sounds good." I have sent two emails reminding him that he was supposed to call the facility back where DS failed the "compatiblity" test to see WHAT he failed, HOW he failed, if there is a workaround. But counselor called once,

left message, that was it. I have left phone reminders, and email reminders. Do you think they would talk to "mom?"The other one we are "working" with who is a Disablity Program Navigator at the Southeast Career Center, same thing. They don't get DS interviews. Every single interview or application that has been sent is done by DS and ME. Every lead, every cold call, all of it. Both of them supposedly worked with him on interview questions, but that consisted of giving him a list of questions and answers on a piece of paper or looking at his resume. And then declaring "he presents well." Yeah, well ask him to explain what his work "ethics" are. How do you plan for a question like that! This is his weakest area to use language in this way. He can make a conversation and his work ethic actually IS very good. He is ALWAYS first to volunteer, which is mentioned in cover letter. But instead interviwer asked him to "define" his work

ethic...I don't know how to help him interview any more than the little I have done...don't know where to go or what else to do.When he was in school and we suffered through IEPS and I thought it was like h_ _ _ on earth dealing with teachers, specialists, etc. there were, at least, laws that protected him, that you could fall back on, or people on your side you could call on. Now, that he has walked "through that gate" and out into adulthood, there is NOTHING. It is like walking into outer space, untethered. Thanks for letting me rant...I never saw this coming. When he went to Job Corps I thought it would open all kinds of doors. And maybe it will down the line, but it is a long hard road in getting there.Sue in TN> >> > Dear Parents;> > See "Adam", the movie recently out. about an Aspe. It is so true to life it hurts. Well Adam was too honest in many places in his replies to some things.> > > > T.> > ( ) So Aspie...> > > > > > Okay...another funny story....> > > > My son started "dating" a girl.....mostly

talking on the phone and seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.> > > > Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened. Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do you like it"....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going out....omg.. .My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks good or something like that...always say YES....> > > > I got the biggest chuckle out of this...> > > > jan> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __>

[Guest guest]

Sue, I'm sure you have searched around for lots of programs. But here's a few

things I turned up, may be something that gives you an idea or leads you

somewhere else...geared towards " disabilities. "

http://www.gettinghired.com/Tour/MakeConnections.aspx

http://www.gettinghired.com/ParticipatingCompanies.aspx

http://www.business-disability.com/template.aspx?state=USTN

http://autismatwork.org/

(this has some good tips on it)

http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/osers/deam-2009/deam-2009-hyatt.html

(success story, Hyatt Hotels)

http://www.disability.gov/employment/youth_programs

Also - what about checking with cafeterias, like at local hospital, a school,

college...? Those type places might be more amenable to hiring and getting him

some job experience, be better with his " special " needs...?

>

> Job Corps is federal...Disability Program Navigator is state. Did go over his

head once because neither predecessor or he would return calls. He did get right

back to me after that phone call. That might be a good idea...she is a mom from

school where son used to go. I just want a job description of what he

(disability program navigator) is supposed to do.

>

> Any idea where/how I can find a job coach that would work with him a little

more intensively? I am willing to do a lot, but difficult to put myself into

role of stranger.

[Guest guest]

{{{Sue}}}

We have not even tried the job thing yet. I was thinking about you

just the other day. The Alzheimer's home where my ds has ST was

advertising for a cook. Hang in there. For most people, any job can

be had with the right training. For our kids, a very specific job must

be found that has a good fit. It's just so much more involved. Try to

practice interviewing and yes, sometimes the questions are really

stupid. It is such a shame that the job corp people do not follow

through on this. I guess that's a gov't run program for ya. What good

is the training if they aren't able to get a job?!?!

 Roxanna

" The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do

nothing. " E. Burke

( ) So Aspie...

>

>

> Okay...another funny story....

>

> My son started " dating " a girl.....mostly talking on the phone and

seeing each other in school (since he is only in 8th grade). My husband

met her when he took them to the movies. He said she was cute.

>

> Well, today he said they broke up. My husband asked what happened.

Well, it seems she had long hair and cut it off. She asked my son, Do

you like it " ....and guess what he said .....NO....so they aren't going

out....omg...My husband says to him...If a woman asks you if this looks

good or something like that...always say YES....

>

> I got the biggest chuckle out of this...

>

> jan

>

[Guest guest]

thanks a bunch for these links. I am calling the internship/mentoring one

on Tuesday and also the Marriott and Hyatt. Even though they have no programs

here in our city, seems a phone call from headquarters to the local Marriott or

Hyatt could be possible.

He has applied for several openings in cafeterias here but so far no luck! His

dream job would be in assisted living facility, but again, that is where he

failed the " compatibility " test. I know they really liked and wanted to hire

him. They called everyone of his references, job and personal. But then, in the

end didn't get it. I really appreciate all of these links...I am going to do a

follow up post about what VR counselor said.

Thank you, thank you, you can never be too rich or too thin or have too many

links of information! <grin>

Sue in TN

> >

> > Job Corps is federal...Disability Program Navigator is state. Did go over

his head once because neither predecessor or he would return calls. He did get

right back to me after that phone call. That might be a good idea...she is a mom

from school where son used to go. I just want a job description of what he

(disability program navigator) is supposed to do.

> >

> > Any idea where/how I can find a job coach that would work with him a little

more intensively? I am willing to do a lot, but difficult to put myself into

role of stranger.

>