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i agree completely From: <doyourecycle@...> Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 2:22:42 PMSubject: ( ) Video games and AS kids

I don't know if preachy is the right word, seems more judging without all the information about the situation. type thing You kinda came across that we've got our kids in the basement locked up with video games and if only we'd let them out they'd have a life...What works in my household may not work in yours and vice-versa. Yes, video games can be overdone as can t.v. and eating and so many other things. I think with AS kids, parents are challenged on a daily basis to not only correct behavior but to introduce new ideas to our kids. Honestly, many of AS kids do better with computers. Many of our kids will go on to be engineers and enter fields that don't require a lot of human interactions. I think parents like myself see the writing on the wall and see that IF our kids are able to not only get a job, BUT hold a job that it won't be a people oriented type job.

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From: <doyourecycle@...>Subject: ( ) Video games and AS kids Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 1:22 PM

I don't know if preachy is the right word, seems more judging without all the information about the situation. type thing You kinda came across that we've got our kids in the basement locked up with video games and if only we'd let them out they'd have a life...What works in my household may not work in yours and vice-versa. Yes, video games can be overdone as can t.v. and eating and so many other things. I think with AS kids, parents are challenged on a daily basis to not only correct behavior but to introduce new ideas to our kids. Honestly, many of AS kids do better with computers. Many of our kids will go on to be engineers and enter fields that don't require a lot of human interactions. I think parents like myself see the writing on the wall and see that IF our kids are able to not only get a job, BUT hold a job that it won't be a people oriented type job.

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No, I don’t think at all that’s what you’ve got your kids doing. I’m sure all of your are all good, well-intentioned parents. But once in a while I hear about someone who was introduced to video games at, say, a year old. My question is WHY someone would introduce kids to video games at that age. My uneasiness with video games is not that they don’t require social interaction, but the addictive qualities. Even neurotypical people can get addicted to them (surely you’ve heard of some of the insane stories in the news), and just imagine how addictive they can be for kids who already have a predisposition to being obsessive. The same AS kid who spends 10 hours a day playing video games might otherwise be spending 10 hours a day looking up information about trains, for example.

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I don't know if preachy is the right word, seems more judging without all the information about the situation. type thing You kinda came across that we've got our kids in the basement locked up with video games and if only we'd let them out they'd have a life...What works in my household may not work in yours and vice-versa. Yes, video games can be overdone as can t.v. and eating and so many other things. I think with AS kids, parents are challenged on a daily basis to not only correct behavior but to introduce new ideas to our kids. Honestly, many of AS kids do better with computers. Many of our kids will go on to be engineers and enter fields that don't require a lot of human interactions. I think parents like myself see the writing on the wall and see that IF our kids are able to not only get a job, BUT hold a job that it won't be a people oriented type job.

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Well, as some say, it's different in each household, each child is different.

was maybe...6 when we got our first video games, oldest son was 10....

never was one who would have been looking up information about trains or

anything. He never had any of those type obsessions. Did he get obsessive with

video games? Well, yeah, we all did a bit, might vary which game someone liked

sometimes. But video games also gave him something to share with others at

school (interest to talk about). Also they helped him with his fine motor

skills and his thinking/planning skills, etc. Heck, he used to have to get me

past some stages or obstacle in a game. Also for 2 player type games, brought

the family together playing.

Kept him from feeling so alone too. To this day he doesn't have friends to hang

out with when he's at home.

When he was younger (he's now 21) at one time I thought maybe he'd grow up and

design or work for video game makers. But he's into medical research currently

(think he's having doubts on that) but always said he'd be a scientist, just

never knew what kind.

Yes, sometimes each of my sons (3) got frustrated or mad at some game, I'd tell

them when it stopped being fun then they needed to stop, I'd intervene.

All my sons got tired of video games sometime in high school. Have occasionally

showed interest sometimes, but more some computer game these days.

quit playing in high school due to his OCD, just could not play but could watch

someone play.

Interestingly, got home from college a couple weeks ago and guess what

-- is playing video games. No friends to do things with. Helps him pass the

time. He's bored, plus his OCD bothers him constantly. Actually got him and

his twin together for a day (twin visited) playing them. That was nice to see,

they go to separate colleges, have never been close, too opposite.

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> No, I don¹t think at all that¹s what you¹ve got your kids doing. I¹m sure

> all of your are all good, well-intentioned parents. But once in a while I

> hear about someone who was introduced to video games at, say, a year old. My

> question is WHY someone would introduce kids to video games at that age. My

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My 9 year old has a Wii and is allowed to play 30 minutes each day. Only

non-violent games, , Lego, etc... We have an egg timer he sets, and he

stops playing when his time is up. If allowed, he would play the whole day.

Are we being too strict?

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> > No, I don¹t think at all that¹s what you¹ve got your kids doing. I¹m sure

> > all of your are all good, well-intentioned parents. But once in a while I

> > hear about someone who was introduced to video games at, say, a year old. My

> > question is WHY someone would introduce kids to video games at that age. My

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I don't think you're being too strict. Each household has their own rules, ways

they do things, etc.

And also for any who have their child on a routine/structured day, that's

probably important too, to have a set amount of time, and using a timer is a

good idea!

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> > Well, as some say, it's different in each household, each child is

different. was maybe...6 when we got our first video games, oldest son

was 10.... never was one who would have been looking up information

about trains or anything. He never had

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I am not sure why you think looking up train information for ten hours per day is acceptable. It's just as bad as playing games for ten hours per day. Most parents realize that doing anything ten hours per day is a problem - no matter if it's a game or train obsession. We have to teach moderation no matter what is there to deal with. Seems like you are not against obsessing about something all day, as long as it is something you think acceptable. But I would disagree with that. As for those 1 year old kids, most one year old kids would not have the attention span or fine motor skills necessary to play a video game, let alone understand how it works. And if they did, I doubt they would last long at it. They tend to go from one thing to another fairly quickly at age one so because of that, it isn't a huge problem for kids that age.

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No, I don’t think at all that’s what you’ve got your kids doing. I’m sure all of your are all good, well-intentioned parents. But once in a while I hear about someone who was introduced to video games at, say, a year old. My question is WHY someone would introduce kids to video games at that age. My uneasiness with video games is not that they don’t require social interaction, but the addictive qualities. Even neurotypical people can get addicted to them (surely you’ve heard of some of the insane stories in the news), and just imagine how addictive they can be for kids who already have a predisposition to being obsessive. The same AS kid who spends 10 hours a day playing video games might otherwise be spending 10 hours a day looking up information about trains, for example.

On 7/6/10 2:22 PM, "" <doyourecyclegmail> wrote:

I don't know if preachy is the right word, seems more judging without all the information about the situation. type thing You kinda came across that we've got our kids in the basement locked up with video games and if only we'd let them out they'd have a life...What works in my household may not work in yours and vice-versa. Yes, video games can be overdone as can t.v. and eating and so many other things. I think with AS kids, parents are challenged on a daily basis to not only correct behavior but to introduce new ideas to our kids. Honestly, many of AS kids do better with computers. Many of our kids will go on to be engineers and enter fields that don't require a lot of human interactions. I think parents like myself see the writing on the wall and see that IF our kids are able to not only get a job, BUT hold a job that it won't be a people oriented type job.

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One pursuit is mentally stimulating, and could possibly lead to a career in train design, for example. The other is just playing video games.

On 7/6/10 11:23 PM, " Roxanna " <MadIdeas@...> wrote:

I am not sure why you think looking up train information for ten hours per day is acceptable. It's just as bad as playing games for ten hours per day. Most parents realize that doing anything ten hours per day is a problem - no matter if it's a game or train obsession. We have to teach moderation no matter what is there to deal with. Seems like you are not against obsessing about something all day, as long as it is something you think acceptable. But I would disagree with that. As for those 1 year old kids, most one year old kids would not have the attention span or fine motor skills necessary to play a video game, let alone understand how it works. And if they did, I doubt they would last long at it. They tend to go from one thing to another fairly quickly at age one so because of that, it isn't a huge problem for kids that age.

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Re: ( ) Video games and AS kids

No, I don’t think at all that’s what you’ve got your kids doing. I’m sure all of your are all good, well-intentioned parents. But once in a while I hear about someone who was introduced to video games at, say, a year old. My question is WHY someone would introduce kids to video games at that age. My uneasiness with video games is not that they don’t require social interaction, but the addictive qualities. Even neurotypical people can get addicted to them (surely you’ve heard of some of the insane stories in the news), and just imagine how addictive they can be for kids who already have a predisposition to being obsessive. The same AS kid who spends 10 hours a day playing video games might otherwise be spending 10 hours a day looking up information about trains, for example.

On 7/6/10 2:22 PM, " " <doyourecycle@...> wrote:

I don't know if preachy is the right word, seems more judging without all the information about the situation. type thing You kinda came across that we've got our kids in the basement locked up with video games and if only we'd let them out they'd have a life...What works in my household may not work in yours and vice-versa. Yes, video games can be overdone as can t.v. and eating and so many other things. I think with AS kids, parents are challenged on a daily basis to not only correct behavior but to introduce new ideas to our kids. Honestly, many of AS kids do better with computers. Many of our kids will go on to be engineers and enter fields that don't require a lot of human interactions. I think parents like myself see the writing on the wall and see that IF our kids are able to not only get a job, BUT hold a job that it won't be a people oriented type job.

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I think you have a bias against video games for some reason. Your theory doesn't make any sense.

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Re: ( ) Video games and AS kids

No, I don’t think at all that’s what you’ve got your kids doing. I’m sure all of your are all good, well-intentioned parents. But once in a while I hear about someone who was introduced to video games at, say, a year old. My question is WHY someone would introduce kids to video games at that age. My uneasiness with video games is not that they don’t require social interaction, but the addictive qualities. Even neurotypical people can get addicted to them (surely you’ve heard of some of the insane stories in the news), and just imagine how addictive they can be for kids who already have a predisposition to being obsessive. The same AS kid who spends 10 hours a day playing video games might otherwise be spending 10 hours a day looking up information about trains, for example.

On 7/6/10 2:22 PM, "" <doyourecyclegmail> wrote:

I don't know if preachy is the right word, seems more judging without all the information about the situation. type thing You kinda came across that we've got our kids in the basement locked up with video games and if only we'd let them out they'd have a life...What works in my household may not work in yours and vice-versa. Yes, video games can be overdone as can t.v. and eating and so many other things. I think with AS kids, parents are challenged on a daily basis to not only correct behavior but to introduce new ideas to our kids. Honestly, many of AS kids do better with computers. Many of our kids will go on to be engineers and enter fields that don't require a lot of human interactions. I think parents like myself see the writing on the wall and see that IF our kids are able to not only get a job, BUT hold a job that it won't be a people oriented type job.

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I have to chime in on this one. My aspie son was 3 when he started playing

" dogs " on my NintendoDS. He loved it and thus his love of video games was born.

It just kinda happened but it was the best thing we could have found. It became

a sort of coping mechanism when he was younger, and the only one we ever did

find. He was very sensory sensitive and highly prone to meltdowns of course,

and after we found the DS, we could actually go to family functions without him

hurting other kids, or go out to eat without the whole restaurant staring at

him. It was truly a Godsend. Sure he got a little obsessive over it for a

while, and still does with his various game systems he has now, but only for a

week or so after he got a new game. My kid has never been allowed to play video

games for 10 hours a day and never will be. And I do think it can help with the

friendship thing. It gives my kid a " normal " common ground topic to talk about

with the other boys.

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> > No, I don¹t think at all that¹s what you¹ve got your kids doing. I¹m sure

> > all of your are all good, well-intentioned parents. But once in a while I

> > hear about someone who was introduced to video games at, say, a year old. My

> > question is WHY someone would introduce kids to video games at that age. My

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yeah, seriously, what one year old is even capable of actually playing video

games. even if a one year old was say allowed to play with a remote, like my

one year old does, he doesn't have a clue about the video game. He just likes

remotes. I think it definitely depends on your household but sounds like people

are ending up with a technology phobia here. Sure limit your kid's screen time,

even avoid it if you want, but my kids have all been " exposed " at an early age

if you count letting them play around with controllers, and none of them are

obsessed and doing nothing but playing video games. Oh and computer, and

internet surfing is just as addictive and no better for you. And my obsessive

habit when I was a kid was reading for ten hours a day and still do sometimes.

Reading's thought to be so good for you but when I get migraines and still keep

reading or when I was a kid would refuse to play or go outside. That isn't any

healthier. I think we need to encourage our children to engage in a variety of

activities. I actually have a set amount of tickets for game and tv time for my

kids and that system works well. Also gives me something to take away when they

misbehave.

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> I don't know if preachy is the right word, seems more judging without all the

information about the situation. type thing You kinda came across that we've got

our kids in the basement locked up with video games and if only we'd let them

out they'd have a life...What works in my household may not work in yours and

vice-versa. Yes, video games can be overdone as can t.v. and eating and so many

other things. I think with AS kids, parents are challenged on a daily basis to

not only correct behavior but to introduce new ideas to our kids. Honestly, many

of AS kids do better with computers. Many of our kids will go on to be engineers

and enter fields that don't require a lot of human interactions. I think parents

like myself see the writing on the wall and see that IF our kids are able to not

only get a job, BUT hold a job that it won't be a people oriented type job.

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I definitely agree that it gives him common ground to talk with his peers at

school. Kids he would normally would have nothing in common with and probably

never interact with. I never thought about that, but I'm glad it was brought to

my attention. There is certainly a positive there. I think I will lighten up a

little, for the summer at least and allow him to play 30 minutes, twice a day.

I do have to be careful as he gets over stimulated and his behavior is affected.

Everything in moderation. (I read for probably 5 hours yesterday and got nothing

else done, so I need to take my own advice! haha) Thank you all for your input.

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> > > No, I don¹t think at all that¹s what you¹ve got your kids doing. I¹m

sure

> > > all of your are all good, well-intentioned parents. But once in a while I

> > > hear about someone who was introduced to video games at, say, a year old.

My

> > > question is WHY someone would introduce kids to video games at that age.

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I don’t have a bias. I like video games once in a while. It’s just that I’ve seen my brother get addicted to them, and I’ve heard stories. Not just in the news, but from my mom, who’s a teacher, who has one parent after another helplessly declare, “Well, I can’t make him do his homework. He’s always playing video games. I don’t want to take that away from him.”

On 7/7/10 9:39 AM, " Roxanna " <MadIdeas@...> wrote:

I think you have a bias against video games for some reason. Your theory doesn't make any sense.

Roxanna

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Re: ( ) Video games and AS kids

No, I don’t think at all that’s what you’ve got your kids doing. I’m sure all of your are all good, well-intentioned parents. But once in a while I hear about someone who was introduced to video games at, say, a year old. My question is WHY someone would introduce kids to video games at that age. My uneasiness with video games is not that they don’t require social interaction, but the addictive qualities. Even neurotypical people can get addicted to them (surely you’ve heard of some of the insane stories in the news), and just imagine how addictive they can be for kids who already have a predisposition to being obsessive. The same AS kid who spends 10 hours a day playing video games might otherwise be spending 10 hours a day looking up information about trains, for example.

On 7/6/10 2:22 PM, " " <doyourecycle@...> wrote:

I don't know if preachy is the right word, seems more judging without all the information about the situation. type thing You kinda came across that we've got our kids in the basement locked up with video games and if only we'd let them out they'd have a life...What works in my household may not work in yours and vice-versa. Yes, video games can be overdone as can t.v. and eating and so many other things. I think with AS kids, parents are challenged on a daily basis to not only correct behavior but to introduce new ideas to our kids. Honestly, many of AS kids do better with computers. Many of our kids will go on to be engineers and enter fields that don't require a lot of human interactions. I think parents like myself see the writing on the wall and see that IF our kids are able to not only get a job, BUT hold a job that it won't be a people oriented type job.

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Everything in moderation i say, yes aspergers can get a little obsessive at times with things. Boy was i surprised when my son said he learned somthing today, from a video game! He figured out how to acomplish and finish a task hed been trying for weeks, he says to me " It was so simple all had to do was listen! " I call these my son's light bulb moments LOL its like a switch has been flipped. He plays a pokeman game on his DS, and he had to stop and listen to what the charcters were trying to tell him which he usually skips. So i asked him do you think that could be applied to many situations not just games? Oh yes he says, and ive been trying to get him to listen and not tune things out. Because it might be important or you miss information, now lets see if it sticks. He would sit for hours at the DS, TV, or computer if i let him but i dont. He not allowed on the computer at home only dads and friends or school. Tv is only Fri thru Mon. Unless educational is on

History channel or like right now Super Heros revealed. He has a library of books and for a 10 yrs old is reading at a middle school level, starting 5th grade next yr. But each child is unique, and as a parent you have to figure what works best for the child and the family as a whole. There will be good days and bad days, but i try to stay one step ahead of the anxiety that goes with autism. Im going to get him a dog so he can stop asking me for a sibling...... i think animals make wonderful compnains and help with the lonleyness. Well see if we can train it to be a therapy/service dog. The breed were chossing is German Sheperd. Any one with advice, recommed rescues, or have a experiance send a reply. Want to make sure im doing this dog thing right! Thank you for reading..........................................

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