Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 This is such a fun age. They are such little cuties. If you have your child in special needs preschool 3 times a week and if you go to some typical mommy and me classes and if you go to the park and invite some peers over once or twice a week this is going to be a lot of social exposure. As a parent you have the most interaction, look at the Floortime website by Dr. Greenspan. He has an evidence based program that teaches parents how to draw your child out of their restricted interests and include you. Kids with AS often do learn the social rules, what holds them back often is problems staying emotionally regulated and being too compulsive with there interests. In the summer their are lots of kids at the community pool, at parks at little gym classes. Have your child around kids their age and try to at least set up a play date once a twice a week so that you expose your child to having people over and vice versa. Social skill classes are not going to hurt. But hopefully your child will get that at the TECCH program. When your child is older and feels he is not included it can fill a void. They can be helpful as the child gets older if they are receptive to learning about how other people think (not all AS kids are receptive) like the Michele Winner program (which is better suited for kids about 7 or older). But I wouldn't spend a lot of money on this now. We were able to set up play dates 2-3 times a week with typical peers until about the age of 9. Make it 1:1 if they are any issues in a group. Kids at age 3-4 still play a lot 1:1. But you want to try to facilate some activity that is joint attention (ball throwing, eating a snack, playing with play doh together) Oh there were so many issues with sharing and ridgid behavior to deal with. I would work on things with other typical peers, small art classes, small swim classes, visiting the YMCA family night if they have one. If there are any behavior issues learn about shaping behaviors with positive reinforcement or even get a certified behaviorist to teach you, many insurance companies will cover this now. Pam > > Hi all, > > I am looking into some preschool social skills groups for my 3 1/2 year old son. We are on the waiting list for a fall session at TEACCH, and may be able to get into something else in the meantime over the summer. There is also another program which comes highly recommended (with a price tag to match) that is more of an ongoing thing - 6-8 week sessions pretty much throughout the year. I was wondering how many sessions of these social skills groups need to be attended over the course of a year to make an impact? Do most preschoolers go to a couple of 6-8 week groups per year, or do they need to be more ongoing? It is different for the little kids, since there is not a weekly social skills group option in school like there might be in elementary school. > > Thanks! > > Bridget > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Thanks for sharing your experiences, Pam. Right now my son goes to a regular (not special needs) preschool 2 mornings a week. We also have play dates about 2 times a week on non-school days. He sees a developmental therapist once a week, who alternates one week at home so she can teach me techniques, and one week at school. Her approach is primarily Floortime, and she also makes use of a variety of other techniques to teach emotional regulation. The reason that we were told to seek out social skills classes is to work very directly on non-verbal language and pragmatics. The psychologist who made the AS dx and a SLP who recently did a comprehensive language evaluation both recommended social skills groups to address these areas. Some examples of need would be turning to look at a person when speaking to them so they know they are being addressed or waiting for an answer if he asks someone to play (instead of running off before the other child has a chance to say yes). The developmental therapist has noted that my son does not understand the unspoken rules of play and what his classmates are communicating to him with their bodies, gestures, etc. While his teachers do an outstanding job of teaching general socialization (turn taking, sharing, using polite language and so on), the step by step training that my son needs in non-verbal and pragmatic language is beyond the scope of what they can do. That is why we have been looking into a more formalized program. Did you ever try anything like that when your son was little? Thanks, Bridget > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am looking into some preschool social skills groups for my 3 1/2 year old son. We are on the waiting list for a fall session at TEACCH, and may be able to get into something else in the meantime over the summer. There is also another program which comes highly recommended (with a price tag to match) that is more of an ongoing thing - 6-8 week sessions pretty much throughout the year. I was wondering how many sessions of these social skills groups need to be attended over the course of a year to make an impact? Do most preschoolers go to a couple of 6-8 week groups per year, or do they need to be more ongoing? It is different for the little kids, since there is not a weekly social skills group option in school like there might be in elementary school. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bridget > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Hello, Bridget - We have a 6 yr old AS/ADHD son. One thing we stumbled upon that is really complementing any applied social skills training is peer modeling observation. We will send our son to a camp this summer that includes peer models, but in the meantime, we are using the Model Me Kids DVDs. After my son watched one of the DVDs when we first got them, we chatted about it. I was totally floored by the outcome of our conversation. All the years of coaching, socialization training, etc - verbal methods, all of them - did not teach him at all what behavior was expected. He had to SEE the proper behavior from a distance, not be involved in it. It was not until he saw the expected behavior that he could understand what was expected. Of course, having this knowledge and applying it are two different things... but if one does not have this knowledge in the first place, one has no hope of having expected behavior. - Sue > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I am looking into some preschool social skills groups for my 3 1/2 year old son. We are on the waiting list for a fall session at TEACCH, and may be able to get into something else in the meantime over the summer. There is also another program which comes highly recommended (with a price tag to match) that is more of an ongoing thing - 6-8 week sessions pretty much throughout the year. I was wondering how many sessions of these social skills groups need to be attended over the course of a year to make an impact? Do most preschoolers go to a couple of 6-8 week groups per year, or do they need to be more ongoing? It is different for the little kids, since there is not a weekly social skills group option in school like there might be in elementary school. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Sounds excellent!Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2011, at 7:20 PM, "bridget" <beanniferj@...> wrote: Thanks for sharing your experiences, Pam. Right now my son goes to a regular (not special needs) preschool 2 mornings a week. We also have play dates about 2 times a week on non-school days. He sees a developmental therapist once a week, who alternates one week at home so she can teach me techniques, and one week at school. Her approach is primarily Floortime, and she also makes use of a variety of other techniques to teach emotional regulation. The reason that we were told to seek out social skills classes is to work very directly on non-verbal language and pragmatics. The psychologist who made the AS dx and a SLP who recently did a comprehensive language evaluation both recommended social skills groups to address these areas. Some examples of need would be turning to look at a person when speaking to them so they know they are being addressed or waiting for an answer if he asks someone to play (instead of running off before the other child has a chance to say yes). The developmental therapist has noted that my son does not understand the unspoken rules of play and what his classmates are communicating to him with their bodies, gestures, etc. While his teachers do an outstanding job of teaching general socialization (turn taking, sharing, using polite language and so on), the step by step training that my son needs in non-verbal and pragmatic language is beyond the scope of what they can do. That is why we have been looking into a more formalized program. Did you ever try anything like that when your son was little? Thanks, Bridget > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am looking into some preschool social skills groups for my 3 1/2 year old son. We are on the waiting list for a fall session at TEACCH, and may be able to get into something else in the meantime over the summer. There is also another program which comes highly recommended (with a price tag to match) that is more of an ongoing thing - 6-8 week sessions pretty much throughout the year. I was wondering how many sessions of these social skills groups need to be attended over the course of a year to make an impact? Do most preschoolers go to a couple of 6-8 week groups per year, or do they need to be more ongoing? It is different for the little kids, since there is not a weekly social skills group option in school like there might be in elementary school. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bridget > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I think it would depend on what they plan to teach/what the curriculum and goals are for the class. Ask them, then you will know if this is something worth your time and money. I tend to think they need a lot of practice and regular sessions - just my own opinion. If you work with the program they are using, you could help generalize the skills out in the "real world" and so how long/often he goes would be less important. Roxanna “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr. ( ) How frequent should social skills groups be? Hi all, I am looking into some preschool social skills groups for my 3 1/2 year old son. We are on the waiting list for a fall session at TEACCH, and may be able to get into something else in the meantime over the summer. There is also another program which comes highly recommended (with a price tag to match) that is more of an ongoing thing - 6-8 week sessions pretty much throughout the year. I was wondering how many sessions of these social skills groups need to be attended over the course of a year to make an impact? Do most preschoolers go to a couple of 6-8 week groups per year, or do they need to be more ongoing? It is different for the little kids, since there is not a weekly social skills group option in school like there might be in elementary school. Thanks! Bridget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Just last year I took a parent training course in Development Relationship Intervention. The parent's are taught to not respond to questions until your child looks at you, to use lots of non verbal communication (thumbs up, shake my head no) my daughter was surprised and asked me if we were playing charades. So funny. I think it makes a difference between her and I. She has very good eye contact with me. She uses more gestures with me. She needs more work with her cousins and kids at school. I think probably most AS kids will do better 1:1 than with a group of kids coping and responding to social cues. You can definately do more of this type of communication at home and have some impact. Pam > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I am looking into some preschool social skills groups for my 3 1/2 year old son. We are on the waiting list for a fall session at TEACCH, and may be able to get into something else in the meantime over the summer. There is also another program which comes highly recommended (with a price tag to match) that is more of an ongoing thing - 6-8 week sessions pretty much throughout the year. I was wondering how many sessions of these social skills groups need to be attended over the course of a year to make an impact? Do most preschoolers go to a couple of 6-8 week groups per year, or do they need to be more ongoing? It is different for the little kids, since there is not a weekly social skills group option in school like there might be in elementary school. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 I think it sounds really good. These are all areas that they need help with. If you decide to go, let us know how it turns out! Roxanna “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr. ( ) How frequent should social skills groups be? > > > > > > Hi all, > > I am looking into some preschool social skills groups for my 3 1/2 year old son. We are on the waiting list for a fall session at TEACCH, and may be able to get into something else in the meantime over the summer. There is also another program which comes highly recommended (with a price tag to match) that is more of an ongoing thing - 6-8 week sessions pretty much throughout the year. I was wondering how many sessions of these social skills groups need to be attended over the course of a year to make an impact? Do most preschoolers go to a couple of 6-8 week groups per year, or do they need to be more ongoing? It is different for the little kids, since there is not a weekly social skills group option in school like there might be in elementary school. > > Thanks! > > Bridget > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Thanks, Roxanna. It is good to hear that the goals of this social skills group look appropriate. I think we are going to do a different one over summer break - sort of an intensive one (3 weeks, 3 days/week, 2 hours/day), and then look into this other group for the fall once school is back in session. Bridget > > > > I think it would depend on what they plan to teach/what the curriculum and goals are for the class. Ask them, then you will know if this is something worth your time and money. I tend to think they need a lot of practice and regular sessions - just my own opinion. If you work with the program they are using, you could help generalize the skills out in the " real world " and so how long/often he goes would be less important. > > > > > > > > > > > > Roxanna > > “Our lives begin to end the day webecome silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr. > > > > > > > > > > > > ( ) How frequent should social skills groups be? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am looking into some preschool social skills groups for my 3 1/2 year old son. We are on the waiting list for a fall session at TEACCH, and may be able to get into something else in the meantime over the summer. There is also another program which comes highly recommended (with a price tag to match) that is more of an ongoing thing - 6-8 week sessions pretty much throughout the year. I was wondering how many sessions of these social skills groups need to be attended over the course of a year to make an impact? Do most preschoolers go to a couple of 6-8 week groups per year, or do they need to be more ongoing? It is different for the little kids, since there is not a weekly social skills group option in school like there might be in elementary school. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bridget > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Sounds good but how often is it? My daughter goes 2 times a week at school, the summer social skills " camp " here is 2 days a week, private social skills is usually 1-3 times a week too. I would say that for most of our kids they need ongoing On 3/7/11, bridget <beanniferj@...> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am looking into some preschool social skills groups for my 3 1/2 year old > son. We are on the waiting list for a fall session at TEACCH, and may be > able to get into something else in the meantime over the summer. There is > also another program which comes highly recommended (with a price tag to > match) that is more of an ongoing thing - 6-8 week sessions pretty much > throughout the year. I was wondering how many sessions of these social > skills groups need to be attended over the course of a year to make an > impact? Do most preschoolers go to a couple of 6-8 week groups per year, or > do they need to be more ongoing? It is different for the little kids, since > there is not a weekly social skills group option in school like there might > be in elementary school. > > Thanks! > > Bridget > > -- Sent from my mobile device -mom to a boy and his 5 sisters http://thatmomof6.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 , does your daughter have social skills classes ongoing all year round? I have been wondering how often the classes need to be. I should add that my son is in a private preschool, so there is no social skills group available in school (he's only there for 2 mornings a week anyway). The program we are looking at right now for summer is a 3 week intensive (3 times/week, 2 hours/session). They only do those while school is out over the summer. Then there is the fall program (the one I posted the description of), which is more ongoing - they do 6 or 8 week sessions which are on Saturday mornings throughout the year. During the school year, I don't see how we could go more often than that anyway, between preschool, OT, developmental therapy, and regular life stuff. Bridget Bridget > > Hi all, > > > > I am looking into some preschool social skills groups for my 3 1/2 year old > > son. We are on the waiting list for a fall session at TEACCH, and may be > > able to get into something else in the meantime over the summer. There is > > also another program which comes highly recommended (with a price tag to > > match) that is more of an ongoing thing - 6-8 week sessions pretty much > > throughout the year. I was wondering how many sessions of these social > > skills groups need to be attended over the course of a year to make an > > impact? Do most preschoolers go to a couple of 6-8 week groups per year, or > > do they need to be more ongoing? It is different for the little kids, since > > there is not a weekly social skills group option in school like there might > > be in elementary school. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bridget > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > -mom to a boy and his 5 sisters > http://thatmomof6.blogspot.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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