swearing

[Guest guest]

As a moderator, I try not to knee-jerk over every little thing.

So, earlier, in a post, when I saw the word " friggin " I kept

quiet, hoping it would go away. A few hours later, I see it

again.

Folks, you are dating yourselves. The current usage spelling has

replaced the g's with k's and I would prefer not to see either

version used on this list. Or any profanity, if possible, worse

than " damn. "

It isn't that I am a prude, I swear a lot sometimes amongst

friends. But, I really don't think this is the place for that. If

I have to put a label on this list, I think of it somewhat like a

library. Since we can manage to remember not to use coarse

language in church, in front of our grandmother, etc. I believe

it can be remembered here. Please!

When I write a post, I ALWAYS read it again before posting it. If

necessary, I give it an attitude-ectomy. I strongly recommend

re-reading your posts before sending them. Can we please err on

the side of civility? If not for real, then make-believe?

jim

[Guest guest]

Jim,

Thank you for this post...

Lona

>

> Folks, you are dating yourselves. The current usage spelling has

> replaced the g's with k's and I would prefer not to see either

> version used on this list. Or any profanity, if possible, worse

> than " damn. "

>

> It isn't that I am a prude, I swear a lot sometimes amongst

> friends. But, I really don't think this is the place for that. If

> I have to put a label on this list, I think of it somewhat like a

> library. Since we can manage to remember not to use coarse

> language in church, in front of our grandmother, etc. I believe

> it can be remembered here. Please!

>

> When I write a post, I ALWAYS read it again before posting it. If

> necessary, I give it an attitude-ectomy. I strongly recommend

> re-reading your posts before sending them. Can we please err on

> the side of civility? If not for real, then make-believe?

>

> jim

[Guest guest]

Lona,

Thank you for your support. It makes me feel less like a tyrant.

;-)

jim

Lona wrote:

>

> Jim,

>

> Thank you for this post...

>

> Lona

>

> >

> > Folks, you are dating yourselves. The current usage spelling has

> > replaced the g's with k's and I would prefer not to see either

> > version used on this list. Or any profanity, if possible, worse

> > than " damn. "

> >

> > It isn't that I am a prude, I swear a lot sometimes amongst

> > friends. But, I really don't think this is the place for that. If

> > I have to put a label on this list, I think of it somewhat like a

> > library. Since we can manage to remember not to use coarse

> > language in church, in front of our grandmother, etc. I believe

> > it can be remembered here. Please!

> >

> > When I write a post, I ALWAYS read it again before posting it. If

> > necessary, I give it an attitude-ectomy. I strongly recommend

> > re-reading your posts before sending them. Can we please err on

> > the side of civility? If not for real, then make-believe?

> >

> > jim

>

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If the conversations get real animated,

can we use the word " honking " ? Or

how about the word " bleeping " as they

did in that great episode of " X-Files, " the

one with the smoking gray alien?

Oh, never mind.

> Thank you for your support. It makes me feel less like a tyrant.

> ;-)

>

> jim

[Guest guest]

Great idea ,

How about it Tyrant, oops, I mean Jim? [Joking, Joking] I like " Honking " , and

" Bleeping " gets the point across also!

Have a great pre-solstice weekend everyone!

Diane

Price wrote:

> If the conversations get real animated,

> can we use the word " honking " ? Or

> how about the word " bleeping " as they

> did in that great episode of " X-Files, " the

> one with the smoking gray alien?

> Oh, never mind.

>

> > Thank you for your support. It makes me feel less like a tyrant.

> > ;-)

> >

> > jim

>

[Guest guest]

& Diane,

Honking, bleeping, [expletive deleted], #!% & *!#!, etc. are

perfectly acceptable. But, if you find yourself feeling silly

actually using them, then ask yourself why you don't feel silly

using the words they replace? ;-)

the Tyrant

Kenzie wrote:

>

> Great idea ,

>

> How about it Tyrant, oops, I mean Jim? [Joking, Joking] I like " Honking " ,

and " Bleeping " gets the point across also!

>

> Have a great pre-solstice weekend everyone!

>

> Diane

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[Guest guest]

I am not sure what this has to do with oxygen, ozone, or other healing ways,

and since we are all put on this earth to grow and to go, I will share this

offering in regard to swearing.

Lenny Bruce did whole shows based on how we have certain words that will

elicit a certain response, and it is just a word. But, images of extreme

violence will go unchecked. I find it humorous that the word COCK is okay

when talking about chickens, and the word SUCKER is okay when used in

reference to either someone who is unaware or some kind of candy BUT when we

put these two words together they can create a very contracted response from

a listener. Then this listener of these two words that have been combined

will inhale deeply and hold their breath, in shocked state of being. I guess

this were the oxygen part comes in for this posting.

Now can we talk about Hyperbaric Oxygen treatments and how good they are for

us, how long the sessions should be, and what we can put into or take out of

our diet to make treatments more effective.

God Bless (just two words and 8 letters 8 being the number of infinity)

[Guest guest]

Hey Tyrant-

This thread is starting to smack of PC (political correctness) which in

my opinion is nothing short of deception and outright lying. And now

that I have gone this far maybe I'll tell you how I really feel. ;-))

Blessings,

Zell

[Guest guest]

Now I'm beginning to get a little ticked off! You may call me a

lot of things, but not PC! ;-))

jim

c_zell@... wrote:

>

> Hey Tyrant-

>

> This thread is starting to smack of PC (political correctness) which in

> my opinion is nothing short of deception and outright lying. And now

> that I have gone this far maybe I'll tell you how I really feel. ;-))

>

> Blessings,

>

> Zell

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/17/00 4:20:10 PM EST, jlambert@... writes:

<< Please

don't test my patience again, no matter how artfully you do it.

jim

oxyplus moderator >>

**OH YES I AGREE. THAT WAS MY POINT EXACTLY! As I wrote in my first post.

" Now can we talk about Hyperbaric Oxygen treatments and how good they are for

> us, how long the sessions should be, and what we can put into or take out of

> our diet to make treatments more effective.

I find it tiresome and boring that we get off topic and talk about items that

have nothing to do with oxygen and healing. I hope the irony of my posting

was not lost on the wonderful, and insightful members of the list. I do not

like to have my e-mail clogged with such banter either.

Many blessings to all:

Kindly,

[Guest guest]

Jim: i am sorry, but with all due respect to your position as group

moderator... I think equating friggin .... which is a word i decided to use

after hearing it on prime time ABC (Disney owned) television show, with a crude

term for copulation is way off base.

There is only one letter that fits in the same slot as the word you alluded to.

I had no such nastiness on MY mind.

In fact friggin has more in common with the N word. I think this is quite

petty. I had originally decided it to slide by. I will not continue to be

castigated for something I did not intend, nor should REASONABLY be interpreted

as meaning.

jd

Re: Swearing

Jim,

Thank you for this post...

Lona

>

> Folks, you are dating yourselves. The current usage spelling has

> replaced the g's with k's and I would prefer not to see either

> version used on this list. Or any profanity, if possible, worse

> than " damn. "

>

> It isn't that I am a prude, I swear a lot sometimes amongst

> friends. But, I really don't think this is the place for that. If

> I have to put a label on this list, I think of it somewhat like a

> library. Since we can manage to remember not to use coarse

> language in church, in front of our grandmother, etc. I believe

> it can be remembered here. Please!

>

> When I write a post, I ALWAYS read it again before posting it. If

> necessary, I give it an attitude-ectomy. I strongly recommend

> re-reading your posts before sending them. Can we please err on

> the side of civility? If not for real, then make-believe?

>

> jim

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[Guest guest]

Jim-

After reading the replies to my post yesterday, I think I need to

explain. I intended no offense in my post. It was intended to tickle,

not poke. In fact, I was smiling when I wrote it.

Your take on PC (political correctness) and my own are the same. After

these years I think I know where you stand on that topic.

Truce. No offence intended. Everyone, please, put away your righteous

indignation and regain your sense of humor.

Blessings,

Zell

[Guest guest]

> <I* have a confession to make. I just don't

> curse in front of the kids. >

Hi, Everyone.......Donna........I don't swear either. OK....I RARELY swear!!!

Guess that's why was so shocked!!! I just felt so completely

humiliated.......ordering food and not having a single dime on me to pay for

it!!! Concerning our kids working. Whenever we go to the

grocery store, Gareth 'helps' the ladies scan the food and 'helps' with the

bagging of the groceries. They are all very kind about it and acknowledge

that it's good for him to want to do that. He loves fast food places and I

can easily picture him being very content working there. I guess the best

person to make the decision would be the kid themselves. I DO NOT approve of

forcing a spec. needs person to work. I also hope that someday, Gareth will

WANT to move out into a residential home (close to me, of course) so that my

DH and I can enjoy our lives without worrying about taking care of him 24/7.

We are not getting any younger!!! Congrats to Maddie.

.......hang in there.

Margaret

[Guest guest]

I also so very rarely swear that when I do, the kids know I have reached

the point that I should never reach and I need a time out. I remember the

first time that I swore in front of , and within 24 hours, I heard

it again. She was not yet 2 years old, and we had a door that stuck. It

had been a bad day, the door was sticking, and I slapped it, yelling " I

hate that d#*$ door! " Next day, for no reason, (now 17) repeated it

word for word. She never even knew that she should not say that word!

S

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You just reminded me of a funny confrontation that I

had with my son not too long ago...

We were arguing about something silly, really he was

arguing, I was trying to avoid the conversation, and I

finally said " Just keep arguing with me. I'm older

than you and I can argue much better, so I'll probably

win!!! " It threw him for a total loop, he paused,

growled and stopped arguing with me.

debz...

--- ruth porter <ruth2b4@...> wrote:

> Deborah wrote:

>

> When he does swear, he just says that he's mad or

> irritated with

> me, and for me to leave him alone. Unfortunately,

> he's

> still my baby, and even though I try so hard, I

> can't

> leave him alone.

>

> This is one of the things our son says......leave me

> alone. When he gets to swearing it is his way of

> getting us to back off. If we don't back off he

> escalates to throwing things or slamming doors or

> worse. He says it is US that makes him do these

> things.....because we don't leave him alone!!(I

> never

> have been able to understand that! it certainly

> sounds

> like OCD to me) I have learned to back off to some

> degree. I used to get so anxious about his behavior

> that I would pressure him more. Now if he says I

> can't

> talk to you right now...I wait till later....even if

> it is something I feel is important and needs to be

> discussed...because I know it will just fall apart

> with a shouting match. There are consequenses to

> this

> though.....missed opportunities of

> deadlines...because

> he couldn't talk. I will say the Celexa has helped.

> I

> also with hold privileges. If he calls me a bitch or

> whore...and I am certainly not ONE of those!! he

> doesn't get to drive the car. I could go on but I

> won't! Vivian in WA. st.

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I'm in this group due to my 12-y-o son with OCD.

But all of you sound like you're describing my just-turned 16-y-o son

although he doesn't swear. It's just " leave me alone " or " don't talk

to me " or " you never listen " and he slams doors, hits walls, kicks

things..... I'm always the one who upsets him, it's my fault....

I'm learning to back off too tho a lot of time he wants to end it NOW.

Anyway, glad to know I'm not alone in this either!!!

in N.C.

>

> When he does swear, he just says that he's mad or

> irritated with

> me, and for me to leave him alone. Unfortunately, he's

> still my baby, and even though I try so hard, I can't

> leave him alone.

>

> This is one of the things our son says......leave me

> alone. When he gets to swearing it is his way of

> getting us to back off. If we don't back off he

> escalates to throwing things or slamming doors or

> worse. He says it is US that makes him do these

> things.....because we don't leave him alone!!(I never

> have been able to understand that! it certainly sounds

> like OCD to me) I have learned to back off to some

> degree. I used to get so anxious about his behavior

> that I would pressure him more. Now if he says I can't

> talk to you right now...I wait till later....even if

> it is something I feel is important and needs to be

> discussed...because I know it will just fall apart

> with a shouting match. There are consequenses to this

> though.....missed opportunities of deadlines...because

> he couldn't talk. I will say the Celexa has helped. I

> also with hold privileges. If he calls me a bitch or

> whore...and I am certainly not ONE of those!! he

> doesn't get to drive the car. I could go on but I

> won't! Vivian in WA. st.

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

My son is 6 and recently has decided that every bad word he might have heard in his life is his new best word...I do not know how to stop this...I know he knows this is wrong but every chance he gets he says bad words. He recently spent some time with a friends son and since then his mouth has been terrible..sometimes I see him smirk when I correct him, but I just do not know how to get it to stop...it is so embarrassing..

Please help...

Amy

[Guest guest]

He knows he is getting a reaction from you...tell him every time he does it he goes into time out or take something away. Don't make a big deal ...just say it once and that is it...and when he curses...do not...do not react. Just say okay time out with a very strait face...no reaction. No more than 6 minutes...one minute for each year. Or, take away something he loves...okay...no blank show tonight...but Don't REACT. AFter you tell him his discipline...don't talk about it...after a while he will realize he is not getting your attention and he is losing things becuase of it. Just make sure you tell him it is his choice...Curse and loose things or speak politey and have his show or whatever.

Jan

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From: Amy <amym321@...> Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 2:35:10 AMSubject: ( ) swearing

My son is 6 and recently has decided that every bad word he might have heard in his life is his new best word...I do not know how to stop this...I know he knows this is wrong but every chance he gets he says bad words. He recently spent some time with a friends son and since then his mouth has been terrible..sometimes I see him smirk when I correct him, but I just do not know how to get it to stop...it is so embarrassing..

Please help...

Amy

[Guest guest]

In behavior therapy you would 1) ignore the swearing 2) praise

and give stickers each segment of time that goes by that he

uses kind words. More often the better.

It is likely if others hear they will criticize your handling

and say stuff like " if that was my kid I would xyz "

But the idea is no attention to the negative behavior.

And no severe consequences so that you are not escalating

his behavior.

Gush, giggle, praise, high 5 him, as I said each

segment of time that goes by and he is respectful.

If you are in public and feel you have to say something, you can say

" I can't reward that " and turn away.

Pam

>

> My son is 6 and recently has decided that every bad word he might have heard

in his life is his new best word...I do not know how to stop this...I know he

knows this is wrong but every chance he gets he says bad words. He recently

spent some time with a friends son and since then his mouth has been

terrible..sometimes I see him smirk when I correct him, but I just do not know

how to get it to stop...it is so embarrassing..

>  

> Please help...

>  

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much that is really good advice..I will definitely give it a try..

Amy

From: Pamela <susanonderko@...>Subject: ( ) Re: swearing Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 6:43 PM

In behavior therapy you would 1) ignore the swearing 2) praiseand give stickers each segment of time that goes by that heuses kind words. More often the better. It is likely if others hear they will criticize your handlingand say stuff like "if that was my kid I would xyz" But the idea is no attention to the negative behavior.And no severe consequences so that you are not escalating his behavior. Gush, giggle, praise, high 5 him, as I said each segment of time that goes by and he is respectful. If you are in public and feel you have to say something, you can say"I can't reward that" and turn away. Pam >> My son is 6 and

recently has decided that every bad word he might have heard in his life is his new best word...I do not know how to stop this...I know he knows this is wrong but every chance he gets he says bad words. He recently spent some time with a friends son and since then his mouth has been terrible..sometimes I see him smirk when I correct him, but I just do not know how to get it to stop...it is so embarrassing..> > Please help...> > Amy>