Re: saying yours & meaning mine

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my dd did it still at 8 and 9

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:41 PM, lpmfdm <lpmfdm@...> wrote:

 

Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses to speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's currently working on using spoons & forks.) Just wondering, with all our eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way.

Thanks,--

-- -mommy to Emma, Becca, , , , and Leah

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My grandson spoke in third person till almost 4 1/2------ It was always "Nicky wants this--- etc. Then he just stopped and started saying I want this........

Nora

From: lpmfdm <lpmfdm@...>Subject: ( ) saying yours & meaning mine Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 10:41 PM

Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses to speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's currently working on using spoons & forks.) Just wondering, with all our eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way. Thanks,--

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My son is 4yrs 8mo and just started consistently using I and me. But he still has problems with he/she, his/hers. He understands who is a female and male, the gender part of it, just not the correct use of pronouns.

~ P.

From: lpmfdm <lpmfdm@...>Subject: ( ) saying yours & meaning mine Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 8:41 PM

Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses to speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's currently working on using spoons & forks.) Just wondering, with all our eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way. Thanks,--

[Guest guest]

My DH still refers to himself in the third person often - "Daddy is going to do xyz", he IS Daddy!!! He has undiagnosed AS but ticks every box!!

From: Pruden

Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:20 PM

Subject: Re: ( ) saying yours & meaning mine

My son is 4yrs 8mo and just started consistently using I and me. But he still has problems with he/she, his/hers. He understands who is a female and male, the gender part of it, just not the correct use of pronouns.

~ P.

From: lpmfdm <lpmfdm@...>Subject: ( ) saying yours & meaning mine Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 8:41 PM

Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses to speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's currently working on using spoons & forks.) Just wondering, with all our eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way. Thanks,--

[Guest guest]

I think i may have an undiagnosed DH...what are signs for adults? Anyone know???

[Guest guest]

Yea ! Thanks for the responses. That does make me feel better. My son says that saying "I/me/mine" will be "the next thing you work on." :-)

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From: lpmfdm <lpmfdm@...>Subject: ( ) saying yours & meaning mine Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 10:41 PM

[Guest guest]

You need to see a ST and get a good speech evaluation. Pronouns can be a problem for people with autism/AS to learn sometimes so it would be a good idea to get that eval and get therapy going. What is cute at age 4 can become not so cute as he gets older, if it is hard for him to learn in the end. My own 13 yo ds (hfa) still confuses he/she pronouns all the time but he recognizes it and self-corrects probably 80% of the time. I wish we could move past that point but it seems to be where he is stuck.

Some people prefer to speak about themselves in the 3rd person (kind of a "queen" complex, lol), especially when talking to little kids. I've noticed that when hanging out in pre-schools watching my own kids that adults tend to do that. But that is not the same as not knowing which pronoun to use and when.

I think he could learn to use forks and pronouns at the same time. <g>

Roxanna

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

( ) saying yours & meaning mine

Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses to speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's currently working on using spoons & forks.) Just wondering, with all our eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way.

Thanks,

--

[Guest guest]

When my son (14, Aspergers) gets in trouble, he'll say something like "you just got me in trouble" instead of "I just got in trouble." He's been doing this since he was a little kid. He had to sit there and think for about 5 minutes to figure out how to ask me "will you forgive me?" after he said something mean to me b/c he knew the way he was thinking about saying it "can I forgive you?" wasn't right and it took him sometime to figure out the right way to say it. It was great that he knew he had it turned around and he eventually said it right. If I had realized the extent of the problem when he was younger, I would've definitely had him in speech therapy. I'm not sure now, at the age of 14, it would be worth it to pursue speech therapy?

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 9:28:08 AMSubject: Re: ( ) saying yours & meaning mine

You need to see a ST and get a good speech evaluation. Pronouns can be a problem for people with autism/AS to learn sometimes so it would be a good idea to get that eval and get therapy going. What is cute at age 4 can become not so cute as he gets older, if it is hard for him to learn in the end. My own 13 yo ds (hfa) still confuses he/she pronouns all the time but he recognizes it and self-corrects probably 80% of the time. I wish we could move past that point but it seems to be where he is stuck. Some people prefer to speak about themselves in the 3rd person (kind of a "queen" complex, lol), especially when talking to little kids. I've noticed that when hanging out in pre-schools watching my own kids that adults tend to do that. But that is not the same as not

knowing which pronoun to use and when. I think he could learn to use forks and pronouns at the same time. <g>

RoxannaWhenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

( ) saying yours & meaning mine

Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses to speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's currently working on using spoons & forks.) Just wondering, with all our eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way. Thanks,--

[Guest guest]

That is a great question really. Is he is ST already? My ds is in ST but she doesn't address this anymore. I mentioned it last spring but we got sidetracked (she is seeing both my ds's so it often is hard to juggle conversations). I should ask her about this - if it's something that will just always be there or what. I guess it is good that they notice it's wrong - maybe then it's just a matter of time. I think that is what the ST will tell me - so often the problem is not that he doesn't know what to say correctly, it's just producing it in the moment.

Roxanna

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

( ) saying yours & meaning mine

Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses to speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's currently working on using spoons & forks.) Just wondering, with all our eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way.

Thanks,

--

[Guest guest]

I know my son never takes the blame ....see what you made me do! Wow...another thing in common!

jan

"In the Midst of Difficulty lies Opportunity" Albert Einstein

Success is not measured by one's position but by the obstacles one has overcome to obtain that position

From: MacAllister <smacalli@...> Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 10:46:21 AMSubject: Re: ( ) saying yours & meaning mine

When my son (14, Aspergers) gets in trouble, he'll say something like "you just got me in trouble" instead of "I just got in trouble." He's been doing this since he was a little kid. He had to sit there and think for about 5 minutes to figure out how to ask me "will you forgive me?" after he said something mean to me b/c he knew the way he was thinking about saying it "can I forgive you?" wasn't right and it took him sometime to figure out the right way to say it. It was great that he knew he had it turned around and he eventually said it right. If I had realized the extent of the problem when he was younger, I would've definitely had him in speech therapy. I'm not sure now, at the age of 14, it would be worth it to pursue speech therapy?

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 9:28:08 AMSubject: Re: ( ) saying yours & meaning mine

You need to see a ST and get a good speech evaluation. Pronouns can be a problem for people with autism/AS to learn sometimes so it would be a good idea to get that eval and get therapy going. What is cute at age 4 can become not so cute as he gets older, if it is hard for him to learn in the end. My own 13 yo ds (hfa) still confuses he/she pronouns all the time but he recognizes it and self-corrects probably 80% of the time. I wish we could move past that point but it seems to be where he is stuck. Some people prefer to speak about themselves in the 3rd person (kind of a "queen" complex, lol), especially when talking to little kids. I've noticed that when hanging out in pre-schools watching my own kids that adults tend to do that. But that is not the same as not

knowing which pronoun to use and when. I think he could learn to use forks and pronouns at the same time. <g>

RoxannaWhenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

( ) saying yours & meaning mine

Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses to speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's currently working on using spoons & forks.) Just wondering, with all our eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way. Thanks,--

[Guest guest]

my 4 year old daughter does this too. She says "you have the hiccups" when she has them or "you fell down" She also says "I will bring you more stickers" telling mommy to say those words. She speaks what she hears most. I try to use her own hand to either touch her heart or point at others when she talks and if she needs help we practice the sentence she is working on together. If she is super struggling I make the fist sound like "m" for my instead of you then she knows she can try to guess which word on her own from that hint.From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...>Subject: Re: ( ) saying yours &

meaning mine Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 3:59 PM

That is a great question really. Is he is ST already? My ds is in ST but she doesn't address this anymore. I mentioned it last spring but we got sidetracked (she is seeing both my ds's so it often is hard to juggle conversations). I should ask her about this - if it's something that will just always be there or what. I guess it is good that they notice it's wrong - maybe then it's just a matter of time. I think that is what the ST will tell me - so often the problem is not that he doesn't know what to say correctly, it's just producing it in the moment.

Roxanna

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

( ) saying yours & meaning mine

Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses to speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's currently working on using spoons & forks.) Just wondering, with all our eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way.

Thanks,

--

[Guest guest]

My son only qualified for speech therapy in pre-K. He hasn't had any speech therapy since. I do think Dylan normally knows what to say, but it's like you mentioned below, producing it in the moment is a different story. It seems like that for other things with him, too. He has the answers, but he has to be able to stop and process what's happening (and do it correctly) in order to communicate appropriately.

My son is due for a well-check appt with his pediatrician soon. Maybe I'll mention something about it to her and see if we could get a referral? If I could find a good book or engaging online program that works on reciprical communication, that might work just fine, too.

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 4:59:05 PMSubject: Re: ( ) saying yours & meaning mine

That is a great question really. Is he is ST already? My ds is in ST but she doesn't address this anymore. I mentioned it last spring but we got sidetracked (she is seeing both my ds's so it often is hard to juggle conversations). I should ask her about this - if it's something that will just always be there or what. I guess it is good that they notice it's wrong - maybe then it's just a matter of time. I think that is what the ST will tell me - so often the problem is not that he doesn't know what to say correctly, it's just producing it in the moment.

RoxannaWhenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

( ) saying yours & meaning mine

Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses to speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's currently working on using spoons & forks.) Just wondering, with all our eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way. Thanks,--

[Guest guest]

my young son says something similar ie " you made me have a meltdown " - I thought

it was him blaming others and not accepting responsibility for his

attitude/behaviour

Miranda

>

> When my son (14, Aspergers) gets in trouble, he'll say something like " you

just

> got me in trouble "  instead of " I just got in trouble. "   He's been doing

this

> since he was a little kid.  He had to sit there and think for about 5 minutes

to

> figure out how to ask me " will you forgive me? " after he said something mean

to

> me b/c he knew the way he was thinking about saying it " can I forgive you? "

> wasn't right and it took him sometime to figure out the right way to say it. 

It

> was great that he knew he had it turned around and he eventually said it

right. 

> If I had realized the extent of the problem when he was younger, I would've

> definitely had him in speech therapy.  I'm not sure now, at the age of 14, it

> would be worth it to pursue speech therapy?

>  

>

>

> " Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one

> out. "

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...>

>

> Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 9:28:08 AM

> Subject: Re: ( ) saying yours & meaning mine

>

>  

> You need to see a ST and get a good speech evaluation.  Pronouns can be a

> problem for people with autism/AS to learn sometimes so it would be a good

idea

> to get that eval and get therapy going.  What is cute at age 4 can become not

so

> cute as he gets older, if it is hard for him to learn in the end.  My own 13

yo

> ds (hfa) still confuses he/she pronouns all the time but he recognizes it and

> self-corrects probably 80% of the time.  I wish we could move past that point

> but it seems to be where he is stuck. 

>

>

> Some people prefer to speak about themselves in the 3rd person (kind of a

> " queen " complex, lol), especially when talking to little kids.  I've noticed

> that when hanging out in pre-schools watching my own kids that adults tend to

do

> that.  But that is not the same as not knowing which pronoun to use and

when. 

>

>

> I think he could learn to use forks and pronouns at the same time.  <g> 

>

>

> Roxanna

> Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

>

>

> ( ) saying yours & meaning mine

>

>

>  

> Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person

> (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses

to

> speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's

> currently working on using spoons & forks.) Just wondering, with all our

> eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way.

>

> Thanks,

> --

>

[Guest guest]

My son didn't qualify for speech therapy either...I think they just don't understand what we are looking for with our children!

"In the Midst of Difficulty lies Opportunity" Albert Einstein

Success is not measured by one's position but by the obstacles one has overcome to obtain that position

From: MacAllister <smacalli@...> Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 10:23:12 PMSubject: Re: ( ) saying yours & meaning mine

My son only qualified for speech therapy in pre-K. He hasn't had any speech therapy since. I do think Dylan normally knows what to say, but it's like you mentioned below, producing it in the moment is a different story. It seems like that for other things with him, too. He has the answers, but he has to be able to stop and process what's happening (and do it correctly) in order to communicate appropriately.

My son is due for a well-check appt with his pediatrician soon. Maybe I'll mention something about it to her and see if we could get a referral? If I could find a good book or engaging online program that works on reciprical communication, that might work just fine, too.

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 4:59:05 PMSubject: Re: ( ) saying yours & meaning mine

That is a great question really. Is he is ST already? My ds is in ST but she doesn't address this anymore. I mentioned it last spring but we got sidetracked (she is seeing both my ds's so it often is hard to juggle conversations). I should ask her about this - if it's something that will just always be there or what. I guess it is good that they notice it's wrong - maybe then it's just a matter of time. I think that is what the ST will tell me - so often the problem is not that he doesn't know what to say correctly, it's just producing it in the moment.

RoxannaWhenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

( ) saying yours & meaning mine

Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses to speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's currently working on using spoons & forks.) Just wondering, with all our eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way. Thanks,--

[Guest guest]

There is a difference between mixing up pronouns and not accepting responsibility for actions/blaming others. And really, a kid with HFA could have both problems at the same time as well.

Roxanna

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

( ) saying yours & meaning mine

>

>

> Â

> Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person

> (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses to

> speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's

> currently working on using spoons & forks.) Just wondering, with all our

> eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way.

>

> Thanks,

> --

>

[Guest guest]

I truly believe my son can not accept responsibility....but why? Any ideas?

jan

"In the Midst of Difficulty lies Opportunity" Albert Einstein

Success is not measured by one's position but by the obstacles one has overcome to obtain that position

From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 11:48:07 AMSubject: Re: ( ) saying yours & meaning mine

There is a difference between mixing up pronouns and not accepting responsibility for actions/blaming others. And really, a kid with HFA could have both problems at the same time as well.

RoxannaWhenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

( ) saying yours & meaning mine> > > Â > Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person > (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses to > speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's > currently working on using spoons &

forks.) Just wondering, with all our > eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way. > > Thanks,> -- >

[Guest guest]

I will listen more carefully to see if I pick it up, but I think my son only

does this when blaming

Miranda

> >

> > When my son (14, Aspergers) gets in trouble, he'll say something like " you

just

> > got me in trouble " Â instead of " I just got in trouble. " Â Â He's been

doing this

> > since he was a little kid. He had to sit there and think for about 5

minutes to

> > figure out how to ask me " will you forgive me? " after he said something mean

to

> > me b/c he knew the way he was thinking about saying it " can I forgive you? "

> > wasn't right and it took him sometime to figure out the right way to say

it. It

> > was great that he knew he had it turned around and he eventually said it

right.Â

> > If I had realized the extent of the problem when he was younger, I

would've

> > definitely had him in speech therapy. I'm not sure now, at the age of 14,

it

> > would be worth it to pursue speech therapy?

> > Â

> >

> >

> > " Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one

> > out. "

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@>

> >

> > Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 9:28:08 AM

> > Subject: Re: ( ) saying yours & meaning mine

> >

> > Â

> > You need to see a ST and get a good speech evaluation. Pronouns can be a

> > problem for people with autism/AS to learn sometimes so it would be a good

idea

> > to get that eval and get therapy going. What is cute at age 4 can become

not so

> > cute as he gets older, if it is hard for him to learn in the end. My own

13 yo

> > ds (hfa) still confuses he/she pronouns all the time but he recognizes it

and

> > self-corrects probably 80% of the time. I wish we could move past that

point

> > but it seems to be where he is stuck.Â

> >

> >

> > Some people prefer to speak about themselves in the 3rd person (kind of a

> > " queen " complex, lol), especially when talking to little kids. I've

noticed

> > that when hanging out in pre-schools watching my own kids that adults tend

to do

> > that. But that is not the same as not knowing which pronoun to use and

when.Â

> >

> >

> > I think he could learn to use forks and pronouns at the same time. <g>Â

> >

> >

> > Roxanna

> > Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

> >

> >

> > ( ) saying yours & meaning mine

> >

> >

> > Â

> > Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person

> > (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and

refuses to

> > speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's

> > currently working on using spoons & forks.) Just wondering, with all our

> > eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > --

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Possibly he truly doesn't have the perspective taking skills necessary to assign blame for situations. My older ds was always that way too. I think working on "theory of mind", cause/effect, problem solving, etc. might help improve these areas. A good ST would help in this area, or couseling/therapy of some sort. They do have ST eval's such as "test of problem solving" that would highlight this area as being a problem.

Roxanna

"I

predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Jefferson

( ) saying yours & meaning mine

>

>

> Â

> Has anyone else's child continued to speak of himself only in 2nd person

> (you/your/yours -- instead of I/me/my/mine)? My son is 4 yrs old, and refuses to

> speak in first person. He says that'll be the next thing he works on. (He's

> currently working on using spoons &

forks.) Just wondering, with all our

> eccentricities, if my son is the only one speaking this way.

>

> Thanks,

> --

>