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Hi ,

Well, if he's not averse to reading my column, I try and substantiate

everything I say (click on the links to see). There are quite a few of

them at this point, but it might start to have an impact after he's read

a few.

And have you read my speech? Maybe that can help, as I think it's a

pretty good overview of the issue:

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/dailynews/february2002/bartlettdemospeech

..htm

And my testimony to the IOM?

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/authors/sandymintz/iomtest1993.htm

Of course, my website and Sheri's and 's (at whale.to) are excellent

resources.

Sandy from Alaska

http://www.vaccinationnews.com

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scandals/past_scandals.htm

http://www.whale.to

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

http://www.909shot.com

http://www.redflagsweekly.com

http://www.thinktwice.com

http://home.san.rr.com/via/

http://www.vaccine-info.com

http://www.vaccine-info.com http://healing-arts.org/children/vaccines/

ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED

HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED

AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO

BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE

AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR

HEALTH CARE PROVIDER.

I need advice

hello,

I am having trouble convincing my boyfriend not to vaccinate our child

who

is due to come into the world in 2 short weeks. I have made some

headway..... I sent him an article about why it's not necessary to vax

for

HepB and he agreed. He also agrees that she won't need one for flu and

chicken pox, for example. He is open to waiting a year or so and also

spreading them out as much as possible, but still thinks it's stupid to

not

vax. I am willing to continue sending him facts, but he's a tough one

and

thinks that there's facts to support any side of an issue (he's an

engineer

and is stubborn!) I'm getting exhausted trying to convince him and

others

why I don't wish to vax (does that sound selfish?). It's just that when

you

get it, a light bulb goes off, and there's really no turning back, but

you

can't force a " light bulb moment " for someone else. The time I'd save

bombarding him with info, I could use to further educate myself on this

endless subject. I don't want to just point him to a website and say

" go

crazy " because I don't know if he'll be open minded and read everything.

Any

suggestions?? thanks so much for listening.

in Mass.

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Hi , sounds like you have already made a lot of headway in

convincing your boyfriend!

Everyone is different on how they handle certain info. I know what

the engineer types are like. My stepson is in his junior year of

college for mechanical engineering.

What I would like to share with you, (and maybe you have already seen

it) is what got my husband to say absolutely no vaccines.

http://www.ouralexander.org/burton.htm

> hello,

> I am having trouble convincing my boyfriend not to vaccinate our

child who

> is due to come into the world in 2 short weeks. I have made some

> headway..... I sent him an article about why it's not necessary to

vax for

> HepB and he agreed. He also agrees that she won't need one for flu

and

> chicken pox, for example. He is open to waiting a year or so and

also

> spreading them out as much as possible, but still thinks it's

stupid to not

> vax. I am willing to continue sending him facts, but he's a tough

one and

> thinks that there's facts to support any side of an issue (he's an

engineer

> and is stubborn!) I'm getting exhausted trying to convince him and

others

> why I don't wish to vax (does that sound selfish?). It's just that

when you

> get it, a light bulb goes off, and there's really no turning back,

but you

> can't force a " light bulb moment " for someone else. The time I'd

save

> bombarding him with info, I could use to further educate myself on

this

> endless subject. I don't want to just point him to a website and

say " go

> crazy " because I don't know if he'll be open minded and read

everything. Any

> suggestions?? thanks so much for listening.

>

> in Mass.

>

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Oh, and Colebeck's incredible piece might get to him:

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/dailynews/july2002/deathbylethal26.htm

Sandy

Re: I need advice

Hi , sounds like you have already made a lot of headway in

convincing your boyfriend!

Everyone is different on how they handle certain info. I know what

the engineer types are like. My stepson is in his junior year of

college for mechanical engineering.

What I would like to share with you, (and maybe you have already seen

it) is what got my husband to say absolutely no vaccines.

http://www.ouralexander.org/burton.htm

> hello,

> I am having trouble convincing my boyfriend not to vaccinate our

child who

> is due to come into the world in 2 short weeks. I have made some

> headway..... I sent him an article about why it's not necessary to

vax for

> HepB and he agreed. He also agrees that she won't need one for flu

and

> chicken pox, for example. He is open to waiting a year or so and

also

> spreading them out as much as possible, but still thinks it's

stupid to not

> vax. I am willing to continue sending him facts, but he's a tough

one and

> thinks that there's facts to support any side of an issue (he's an

engineer

> and is stubborn!) I'm getting exhausted trying to convince him and

others

> why I don't wish to vax (does that sound selfish?). It's just that

when you

> get it, a light bulb goes off, and there's really no turning back,

but you

> can't force a " light bulb moment " for someone else. The time I'd

save

> bombarding him with info, I could use to further educate myself on

this

> endless subject. I don't want to just point him to a website and

say " go

> crazy " because I don't know if he'll be open minded and read

everything. Any

> suggestions?? thanks so much for listening.

>

> in Mass.

>

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Here's two more:

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/scandals/mar%5F8%5F02/scandal7.htm

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Rally/DunbarTestimony.htm

Sandy from Alaska

http://www.vaccinationnews.com

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scandals/past_scandals.htm

http://www.whale.to

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

http://www.909shot.com

http://www.redflagsweekly.com

http://www.thinktwice.com

http://home.san.rr.com/via/

http://www.vaccine-info.com

http://www.vaccine-info.com http://healing-arts.org/children/vaccines/

ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED

HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED

AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO

BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE

AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR

HEALTH CARE PROVIDER.

Re: I need advice

Hi , sounds like you have already made a lot of headway in

convincing your boyfriend!

Everyone is different on how they handle certain info. I know what

the engineer types are like. My stepson is in his junior year of

college for mechanical engineering.

What I would like to share with you, (and maybe you have already seen

it) is what got my husband to say absolutely no vaccines.

http://www.ouralexander.org/burton.htm

> hello,

> I am having trouble convincing my boyfriend not to vaccinate our

child who

> is due to come into the world in 2 short weeks. I have made some

> headway..... I sent him an article about why it's not necessary to

vax for

> HepB and he agreed. He also agrees that she won't need one for flu

and

> chicken pox, for example. He is open to waiting a year or so and

also

> spreading them out as much as possible, but still thinks it's

stupid to not

> vax. I am willing to continue sending him facts, but he's a tough

one and

> thinks that there's facts to support any side of an issue (he's an

engineer

> and is stubborn!) I'm getting exhausted trying to convince him and

others

> why I don't wish to vax (does that sound selfish?). It's just that

when you

> get it, a light bulb goes off, and there's really no turning back,

but you

> can't force a " light bulb moment " for someone else. The time I'd

save

> bombarding him with info, I could use to further educate myself on

this

> endless subject. I don't want to just point him to a website and

say " go

> crazy " because I don't know if he'll be open minded and read

everything. Any

> suggestions?? thanks so much for listening.

>

> in Mass.

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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> I am having trouble convincing my boyfriend not to vaccinate our

>child who

> is due to come into the world in 2 short weeks.

Hi !

Congratulations on your pregnancy and the upcoming birth!

The way I see my own situation I, as my children's mother, don't ask

for anyone's permission to not vaccinate my children. Naturally, dh,

their father,is responsible for them as well, but when I see

something as harmful to them I draw an absolute line that is not to

be crossed.

I did this with spanking, too; dh thought (without giving the issue

much thought, as is usually the case with vaccines, as well ;-) that

the children should be disciplined by hitting them. I told him that

no-one was going to hit my children. End of story - I'm not asking,

I'm informing. Through some discussions and practical experience he

has changed his mind, but even if he hadn't I would always stand

between my children and anyone wanting to lay a hand on them.

The vaccine issue is no different. I have, after much research,

concluded that it is in my children's best interest not to be

vaccinated at this point in time, and since this is in my children's

best interest I will not have them vaccinated just to secure my

relationship with someone else. A mother's duty is to her children

first and foremost.

In practical terms I would suggest showing your boyfriend that

vaccinations are a medical procedure, and as such there should be a

need for them, they should have been proven to work effectively and

to be safe. You wouldn't give your baby any other kind of medication

if you didn't think it was safe, would you? Now invite him to find

*independent* research, that is research that isn't at least in part

sponsored by the manufacturer itself, that shows the above conditions

to have been filled. I think he will agree that research conducted by

the manufacturer, in whose interest it is that a vaccine be found

safe and effective and that all other information be suppressed, is

not scientifically trustworthy.

It seems you have agreed upon waiting. I think you can agree upon not

vaccinating until you have satisfied yourself that it would be safe

to do so. You only need to convince him that he needs to go directly

to the studies, and not read only the infomercials from manufacturers

and health authorities. From the sounds of it you will get the

furthest by appealing to his logic and intellect :).

Good luck!

Lilian, ton, IL

dd Maya, 2

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Hi Sali:

I injured myself last October (2001) and was diagnosed with

tendinitis in the shoulder and a small rotator cuff tear. I rested

my shoulder and did physical therapy for 3 months, then gradually

started doing strengthening exercises . . . and now I am at the end

of week 12 of my first challenge.

Here's my advice: make sure you do cardio throughout your whole

rehab. I ran on a treadmill and did the elliptical while I was

resting my shoulder and doing physical therapy--and that helped a

lot in terms of not gaining weight. You can also do many lower body

exercises using machines, such as leg press, leg extension, sitting

calf, etc. as well as do crunches and ab work. For your upper body,

you should work with a physical therapist to design a program of

exercises that will strengthen your shoulder--I used to lift 1 and 2

lb mini dumbbells (should raises, back exercises, etc.) and I also

made use of the cable pulley machine. Of course, you should stick

with the BFL eating plan. So basically, follow BFL for your cardio

and lower body/ab days (modified so that you are not putting a

barbell on your shoulders or otherwise using your shoulder to left

heavy weight), and then when you would under normal circumstances

work your upper body, you can do your physical therapy exercises.

> I used to post on this site quite a lot, then I went on a month

long

> trip out of the country and then I moved from my apartment in the

> city to a big house in the suburbs and thru it all I more or less

> kept up my BFL lifestyle. I did two challenges very stricktly and

> succesfully.

> Then I hurt my shoulder and for the last 5 months can hardly move

it.

> I went to my chiropracter who says the problem is in my neck, but

> even though I feel better after his treatments, but have not

really

> gotten any better in many months. I finally went to a

phisiotheripist

> and then to an orthepidic doctor. They both say that I have

> tendonites and a sleightly torn ligament in the front of the

> shoulder. The doctor has sent me for an xray and an ultrasound,

but

> my health fund won't have the result till another two weeks at

least.

>

> They both say I need to do physiotherapy and NO weights workout

for

> many months. The doctor says it will take at least a year to heal.

>

> I have slowly gained back about 10 pounds of 35 that I lost. I am

> finding it very hard to stick to the eating plan when I can't

stick

> to the exersizes. Also I have made sugar a major food group out of

> stress.( mostly from the move.) but basicly, even though I know it

> will not help in the long run, and without all the BFL exersizes

that

> help my stress levels a lot, I eat unwisely every day.

> Help!!! also I am very confused as to what to do. everyone tells

me

> something different. I have tried Pilates, and they tell me that

> working with weights is bad for me, and that pilates will help. My

> physio and my doctor tell me that I should never again work with

> weights. I loved it so, and it felt so good. But I suspect that

that

> is how I damaged my shoulder!

>

> I worked out on my own at home, but I was always very careful, I

> thought, and I tried to keep very good form and to warm up. There

was

> never any time that I felt something that hurt like an injury, I

just

> work up one morning and couldn't move my shoulder. And it was

after a

> paticuarly strenuouse work out the day before.

> I know that BFL works! but I am haveing lots of trouble sticking

to

> it without doing the whole thing. I dont know what to do or who to

> believe. Now the doctor has given me anti inflamitories and they

do

> makke me feel much better, but the physio and the chiro insist

that

> they are just covering up the problem and causing me to be able to

> move in ways that I could do more damage.

> Help, Please. any one have any experiance with this sort of

thing???

> Sali

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Ron,

Thank you for your input....it makes me feel a little better knowing someone

else took the Naproxen and MTX together. I am just so sick of aching all the

time. My hips and legs hurt 24 hours a day and it is so depressing.

Robin, Penny, Chance, Heidi, and Hope (Florida)

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[ ] I need advice

I am planning to finally start my MTX this week. I take Naproxen and one

thing it said in the printout was to be very careful if you take it. The doctor

knows I am on this but I was wondering if anyone else is also on it and taking

the Methatrexate (sp). I am a little scared about taking this med but I am in

so much joint pain I can't stand it any longer. Also...it says to not take any

form of pain reliever. Please could someone give me some advice?

Robin

Robin, Penny, Chance, Heidi, and Hope (Florida)

[Moderator's note: I took both MTX and Naproxen together for about eight

months last year with no problems except for the nausea from the MTX. Ron]

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http://www.wpunj.edu/pa/ -- created and edited by list member

aka(raharris@...).

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conduct extensive research which he publishes as the Psoriatic Arthritic

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Hi Robin,

I am currently on Methotrexate, 10mg per week, I do not take any

other pain medications, but my rheumatologist had suggested in the

begining that I could take other pain relievers NSAIDS, ibuprofen,

etc. until the MTX kicked in. I didn't. I started getting results

from the MTX very quickly in about 2-3 weeks (can take 6-8 weeks or

more). After 6 weeks,I was virtually pain free, and I remain pain

free now 8-9 months later. I have taken non-prescription ibuprofen

for the occaissional headache, but oddly, I even get headaches less

often now. I had very few of the side effects that so many others

have had. I get an occaissional mouthsore, some fatigue the day after

a dose. The MTX seems to not do much for my Psoriasis, but I never

had psoriasis until after I started having pain, and the few patches

I have while annoying, are not too much trouble.

Good luck with your treatment. Hopefully your results will be

similar to my good fortune.

Be Well,

> I am planning to finally start my MTX this week. I take Naproxen

and one thing it said in the printout was to be very careful if you

take it. The doctor knows I am on this but I was wondering if anyone

else is also on it and taking the Methatrexate (sp). I am a little

scared about taking this med but I am in so much joint pain I can't

stand it any longer. Also...it says to not take any form of pain

reliever. Please could someone give me some advice?

>

> Robin

>

> Robin, Penny, Chance, Heidi, and Hope (Florida)

>

>

>

> [Moderator's note: I took both MTX and Naproxen together for about

eight months last year with no problems except for the nausea from

the MTX. Ron]

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Thank you for you input. I am living with headaches daily. I just don't

feel very good most of the time.

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Hi Robin,

I am currently on Methotrexate, 10mg per week, I do not take any

other pain medications, but my rheumatologist had suggested in the

begining that I could take other pain relievers NSAIDS, ibuprofen,

etc. until the MTX kicked in. I didn't. I started getting results

from the MTX very quickly in about 2-3 weeks (can take 6-8 weeks or

more). After 6 weeks,I was virtually pain free, and I remain pain

free now 8-9 months later. I have taken non-prescription ibuprofen

for the occaissional headache, but oddly, I even get headaches less

often now. I had very few of the side effects that so many others

have had. I get an occaissional mouthsore, some fatigue the day after

a dose. The MTX seems to not do much for my Psoriasis, but I never

had psoriasis until after I started having pain, and the few patches

I have while annoying, are not too much trouble.

Good luck with your treatment. Hopefully your results will be

similar to my good fortune.

Be Well,

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Mike,

I still have not gotten up the nerve to take the Methotrexate...it is in pill

form and I am suppose to also take folic acid with it. I have reached the point

where I hurt so much I am about ready to try it. I have at least gotten it

filled and it is in my medicine cabinet.

Thanks for the info!!

Robin

Re: [ ] I need advice

ROBIN,

Taking pain killers either NSAIDS such as Naproxen or

narcotic pain meds are fine to take with methotrexate.

I,ve been on and off methotrexate many times and I

never had any problems whatsoever. One other thing is

you didn't mention if you were taking MTX by pills or

injection. The pill form usually causes some stomach

pain and some Nsaids may add to that somewhat, so if

your having a problem you could switch to the

injectable MTX which has virtually no stomache pain at

all.

Mike

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Thank you Kim,

I am also on lots of other meds...due to a serious back injury....so am glad to

know I can still take my naproxen with the methotrexate. Thank you so much!

Robin

Re: [ ] I need advice

Hi Robin,

My daughter was on naproxen and metho. (10mg) for a year, among a lot of other

meds, with no interaction problem. We recently changed from naproxen to

diclofenac because of scaring problems (she has very fair skin and I guess that

is one of the side effects for some with light skin tone.)

Take Care, Kim and (3yrs old)

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In a message dated 12/16/02 11:17:17 PM Pacific Standard Time,

goldens4life@... writes:

> I am planning to finally start my MTX this week. I take Naproxen and one

> thing it said in the printout was to be very careful if you take it. The

> doctor knows I am on this but I was wondering if anyone else is also on it

> and taking the Methatrexate (sp). I am a little scared about taking this

> med but I am in so much joint pain I can't stand it any longer. Also...it

> says to not take any form of pain reliever. Please could someone give me

> some advice?

>

>

Robin, I took naproxen sodium 500 mg b.i.d. with methotrexate for 2 years

with no problems. I now take Lodine 400 mg b.i.d. with methotrexate for the

past 12 months. The only reason I don't use naproxen sodium now is that it

became less effective for my joint pain.

Just be sure to take folic acid 1 mg each day on non-methotrexate days, get

regular blood work every 4 weeks at first, then 8-10 weeks after that to

check your liver enzymes, kidney function, and CBC. If you get some stomach

upset ( I had acid reflux and heartburn) from the NSAIDs/methotrexate, tell

your doc to prescribe you medication (ranitidine, cimetidine, Protonix,

etc.), whatever works best for youto help control the symptoms. I was on

ranitidine for a while, and now Protonix which works wonderfully.

Carol in Vancouver, WA USA

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In a message dated 12/18/02 2:56:31 PM Central Standard Time, cacombe@...

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> Just be sure to take folic acid 1 mg each day on non-methotrexate days

When using MTX for the treatment of PA it is ok to take folic acid at the

same time to lessen side effects. If however you are using MTX to treat

cancer folic acid should not be taken on the same day as the MTX. The target

body chemistry is different between the two and the effect MTX has on PA is

not lessened by folic acid. Orin

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Thanks for the info Carol.

Were you afraid to start taking it? I think I may start it on Friday.

Robin

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In a message dated 12/16/02 11:17:17 PM Pacific Standard Time,

goldens4life@... writes:

> I am planning to finally start my MTX this week. I take Naproxen and one

> thing it said in the printout was to be very careful if you take it. The

> doctor knows I am on this but I was wondering if anyone else is also on it

> and taking the Methatrexate (sp). I am a little scared about taking this

> med but I am in so much joint pain I can't stand it any longer. Also...it

> says to not take any form of pain reliever. Please could someone give me

> some advice?

>

>

Robin, I took naproxen sodium 500 mg b.i.d. with methotrexate for 2 years

with no problems. I now take Lodine 400 mg b.i.d. with methotrexate for the

past 12 months. The only reason I don't use naproxen sodium now is that it

became less effective for my joint pain.

Just be sure to take folic acid 1 mg each day on non-methotrexate days, get

regular blood work every 4 weeks at first, then 8-10 weeks after that to

check your liver enzymes, kidney function, and CBC. If you get some stomach

upset ( I had acid reflux and heartburn) from the NSAIDs/methotrexate, tell

your doc to prescribe you medication (ranitidine, cimetidine, Protonix,

etc.), whatever works best for youto help control the symptoms. I was on

ranitidine for a while, and now Protonix which works wonderfully.

Carol in Vancouver, WA USA

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Hi Orin,

Thank you so much for clearing up my confusion about the mtx and folic acid. I

didn't know what to do...I've heard so many conflicting opinions. Now it is

really clear and makes alot of sense to me. We all want to make sure we treat

ourselves correctly!! Even the doctors seem to have different opinions. Whew.

Thanks again.

Robin

orinok@... wrote:In a message dated 12/18/02 2:56:31 PM Central Standard

Time, cacombe@...

writes:

> Just be sure to take folic acid 1 mg each day on non-methotrexate days

When using MTX for the treatment of PA it is ok to take folic acid at the

same time to lessen side effects. If however you are using MTX to treat

cancer folic acid should not be taken on the same day as the MTX. The target

body chemistry is different between the two and the effect MTX has on PA is

not lessened by folic acid. Orin

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Hi:

I went through Dr. Fox's office and have been quite pleased. I have lost 97

lbs. in 7 months. I will need to check my records. I was a self pay so all my

expenses have been out of pocket. The pre-op work-up for blood, ekg, etc. is

all out of pocket.

Good luck with your decision.

Vickie

> Hello, I am new here. I have been reading various posts but I need

> some advice. I have contacted Dr. Fox's office and have just started

> the ball rolling for surgery with Dr. Rumbaut.

> First ?: does the price of $250.00 cover the pre-op testing? Or do

> we also pay out of pocket separately for this-if so, how much does

> it run?

> Second ?: Would it be better just to go to Dr. Rumbaut directly? Is

> it worth the extra money to go through Dr. Fox's office?

> I know that this will depend on opinion-that is what I would like.

> Thanks in advance.

> Hopefully waiting, Holly Olsen-Pierce, I live in Graham too!

>

>

>

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Dear Holly,

I am going thru Dr. Fox's office had surgery with Dr. Rumbaut on

1/14/03. Could of went without Dr.Fox but I need limit setting and the

comfort of knowing if something goes wrong someone especially a doctor know

what the heck a lap band is and how to treat any medical problems that may

occur. My friend who by the luck of the draw and her personality got into

Dr.Fox's office and was banded by another Mexico doctor normally Dr.Fox's

office does not take other pt's besides his. He helped her thru her leak and

got it fixed in the states and again a few months later when she had her gall

bladder needed taken out. Now she is able to get fills thru his office also.

The office can be frustrating to communciate with at times have already

experienced this hardship at least twice. Dr.Fox's office knows the right

codes so that your insurance will pay for you pre-op testing. I went to my

PCP with the codes he ordered the test and insurance paid 100% of it (Part of

the reason is because the hospital I got it done out I work at so they gave

me a discount.) Yes they treat you like a bypass patient and he does have

high standards but I look at it this way. At least if I don't always meet the

standards I still got up there compared to if he had sub par standards. I

don't know if that makes any sense but that is what I think.

Dr.Rumbaut 1/14/03

284/254/?

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Thank you Vickie for your input. Elma was very helpful too. I think

that I will try going to Mexico (Dr. Rumbaut) without going through

a local doctor first. I am pretty excited. I have some dental work

to get out of the way first then I am " south of the border " .

Holly Olsen-Pierce

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Hey Bud:

I am currently on 20 mg and thinking about going back to 15 mg. I am having

some crazy dreams and also having trouble getting out of bed. Not to mention, I

am feeling a bit " cloudy " during the day. Other than that side affects have

been minimal. I meet with my doc next week and am going to suggest. I meet

next wednesday, so if you want to re-email back then to see what she said I will

be more than happy to share.

Take care...

viktorsphotography <viktorsphotography@...> wrote:

I have been on Lexpro now for about five weeks. I have been at 10

mg now for a little over 3 weeks. It seems to control my anxienty

but I am horribly sleeply on it. I can sleep 8 hours and still not

wake up easily and very sleepy during the day. I never had this

sleepiness before. I got on it for panic attacks and a sleep

disorder where I would wake up 3-6 times a night. I still wake up

at least 3 times a night although I am sleeping better....except for

the crazy dreams. I did have a bad head injury one morning getting

up as I was still asleep and took a bad fall but have since

reovered. I really don't think it is working. I thought it might

be working when I was at a lower dose of about 7 mg at first because

my mood was good and I was laughing a lot and less sleepy. Ok, my

querstions: do I go another week or two at 10 mg or cut back

thinking I am at too high a does or switch to another kind of

antidepressant? Please give me your suggestions.

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It took me 8 weeks to feel " good " on Lex. I take 15 mg. I had " crazy " dreams

for over 6 weeks but now I feel absolutley wonderful. My suggestion--if you are

better than before the lex--stick it out for a couple of weeks. I mean, if you

are doing better, what can it hurt?

No side effects ?

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same thing I always say try Eat right for your blood type though some doctors

put their clients on that prednisone, bad addictive stuff while waiting for mxt

to kick in.

geraldine dullaway <geraldinedullaway@...> wrote: Hi, I have PA in my

left ankle for nearly 2 years. My rheumatologist isnt particularly sympatheric

to my state. I am on 20mg of Methotrexate per week plus anti inflammatories.

According to Dr. I have to go up to 25 mg when they will add Sulphazine (I

think). Meanwhile, I dont appear to be improving, in fact condition getting

worse. Does this mean that while I am waiting for methotrexate to work,

condition is worsening, e.g. soft tissue damage. Will pain ever stop with

methotrexate and we cant get Enbrel in U.K. unless you have tried and failed 2

other drugs. I have to walk with crutch and dont feel inclined to take pain

killers because I am already on several other drugs for diabetes and under

active thyroid. Also tiredness seems to be getting worse. Is there anyone out

there who is in similar situation to me and can offer me some advice and help.

Hope so.

Geraldine Dullaway from Kent in United Kingdom.

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Geraldine,

How long have you been on Methotrexate? Sounds like you need a

change to me either change in meds or a change in doctors. I have a

friend that lives in Canada and has PA, I think she has been on Meth

and her doc just took her off of arava due to her having problems

with it. I live in the US so I don't have much advice to give. Your

having diabetes complicates things a little. Good luck!

Keli

>

> Hi, I have PA in my left ankle for nearly 2 years. My

rheumatologist isnt particularly sympatheric to my state. I am on

20mg of Methotrexate per week plus anti inflammatories. According

to Dr. I have to go up to 25 mg when they will add Sulphazine (I

think). Meanwhile, I dont appear to be improving, in fact condition

getting worse. Does this mean that while I am waiting for

methotrexate to work, condition is worsening, e.g. soft tissue

damage. Will pain ever stop with methotrexate and we cant get

Enbrel in U.K. unless you have tried and failed 2 other drugs. I

have to walk with crutch and dont feel inclined to take pain killers

because I am already on several other drugs for diabetes and under

active thyroid. Also tiredness seems to be getting worse. Is there

anyone out there who is in similar situation to me and can offer me

some advice and help. Hope so.

>

> Geraldine Dullaway from Kent in United Kingdom.

>

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Hi,

I am new at this but I have a little info that might help ya with some ?'S

ya have. I just got my 2nd CI last Tues. and I got them and a lot of info and

testing done at UAB in Birmingham at the Kirklin Clinic; a Dr. Eby. It is a

3-4 drive for me and I am not sure how much of a drive it will be for you but

it is very much worth the drive. At first you make an appointment with an

audiologist, they run some test to check your hearing, what you can hear and

what

you cannot hear.Then after those test you meet with the doctor whom does CI

and discuss if CI is the right thing for you so you will have to drive to UAB

in Birmingham but it is worth the trips. Before you decide to go The Kirlin

Clinic has a web site that you can look at the doctors that do the CI and get

more info on them before you make any long drives. I got my 2nd CI last

Tues, and I go for my recheck tomorrow and everyone on Dr. Eby's team is great

to

work with. So if ya would like a little more info on getting a CI check out

their web site and see if it is what you are looking for. Good luck on your

searches and I hope you find what you need.

Sincerely,

Phyliss

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Hi V

You can call them via relay or email them. Tell them you are seeking

an appointment in regards to your hearing. Share with them past

results if you desire to do so. Share with them about insurance or

anything else like that.

They will let you know what can be scheduled and what help they can

provide.

Hope this helps

Kim B

Advanced Bionics CI

>

> I thought I posted this before, but can't find it so I guess it

didn't

> " send " .

> I am going to contact both s Hopkins and another CI center

this

> week for the first time. What should I ask? What do I want to do?

> DO I want a face to face appt right away, or ca nI get some initial

> information via e-mail? (a personal appt would require a long drive,

> child care, scheduling with my DH work.....) I just don't know aht

to

> even ask for the first contact.

> Thanks In advance

> V'Ann

>

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