Re: police

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Hi, Everyone.....Sandy....thank you for the e-mail address on police

policies. I've entered it into my favorites. Like others on the digest, we

have had the police to our house because of G's behaviors. Where ever we

live now, I make sure we call the local cops after we get settled in.

Take care, Everyone.

Margaret

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In a message dated 7/15/02 11:17:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

joan@... writes:

<< He has a book (the guy wiht th website--dennis somebody) from brookes

publishing. I gave it to Rex to read. It's still sitting there. Rex is our

local cop, afterall.

j >>

Is it any good Joan? Worth buying? Okay, here we go again....dense Gail.

LOL Is Rex a cop? LOL

Gail :-)

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In a message dated 7/15/02 11:47:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

joan@... writes:

<< I dunno , but his stuff on the web sit emakes sense. I've not read it. Rex

is supposed to!

Yes, Rex is a sheriff's deputy in the next county over.

j >>

Oh wow! What a blessing for that county to have a knowledgeable parent on

staff! Has he ever encountered any wandering people with autism? Do you

think, through being a parent of an autistic child, that he would handle a

situation like that the way the web site says to? I'm just wondering if

there is any chance that someone without any knowledge of autism would handle

a situation the same way.

Gail :-)

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In a message dated 7/15/02 12:07:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

joan@... writes:

<< He works in corrections--the jail.

For years he was in denial of htis part of our life. In the last 2-3 years

he's been more interested and applies it to his own situatiobn. He's

released a number of folks who have been arreested who have developmental

disabilities after he locates the right person. He tends to go to their

hearings to testify or talk to the DA beforehand if he can.

j

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Joan, you must be soooo proud of him! I think it's always harder to truly

see your own situation, than someone else's. What a special person he must

be! Gosh, can you tell my girls are at camp this week? LOL I've got

nothing to do but sit at the computer and wait for E-mail! LOL

Gail :-)

[Guest guest]

He has a book (the guy wiht th website--dennis somebody) from brookes

publishing. I gave it to Rex to read. It's still sitting there. Rex is our

local cop, afterall.

j

At 02:06 PM 7/15/2002 EDT, you wrote:

>Hi, Everyone.....Sandy....thank you for the e-mail address on police

>policies. I've entered it into my favorites. Like others on the digest,

we

>have had the police to our house because of G's behaviors. Where ever we

>live now, I make sure we call the local cops after we get settled in.

> Take care, Everyone.

>Margaret

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At 02:38 PM 7/15/2002 EDT, you wrote:

>Is it any good Joan? Worth buying? Okay, here we go again....dense Gail.

>LOL Is Rex a cop? LOL

I dunno , but his stuff on the web sit emakes sense. I've not read it. Rex

is supposed to!

Yes, Rex is a sheriff's deputy in the next county over.

j

[Guest guest]

He works in corrections--the jail.

For years he was in denial of htis part of our life. In the last 2-3 years

he's been more interested and applies it to his own situatiobn. He's

released a number of folks who have been arreested who have developmental

disabilities after he locates the right person. He tends to go to their

hearings to testify or talk to the DA beforehand if he can.

j

At 02:57 PM 7/15/2002 EDT, you wrote:

>In a message dated 7/15/02 11:47:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

>joan@... writes:

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><< I dunno , but his stuff on the web sit emakes sense. I've not read it. Rex

> is supposed to!

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> Yes, Rex is a sheriff's deputy in the next county over.

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> j >>

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>Oh wow! What a blessing for that county to have a knowledgeable parent on

>staff! Has he ever encountered any wandering people with autism? Do you

>think, through being a parent of an autistic child, that he would handle a

>situation like that the way the web site says to? I'm just wondering if

>there is any chance that someone without any knowledge of autism would

handle

>a situation the same way.

>Gail :-)

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thank you for the back up. im not sure if i told every one but i am a

criminal justice major with the hopes of being a corrections officer and have

interaction with cops all day long. to slam the cops is sad because when you

dial 911 for help they come and help you no matter what! oh and a fun fact cop

stands for constable on patrol or copper penny. please keep your negative

remarks away from me since i have lost a great office in the line of duty. thank

you

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Boy you learn all kinds of stuff here, never kenew this.

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oh and a fun fact cop stands for constable on patrol or copper penny.

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Dear group, yesterday I got a phone call from police station, saying they had my

son shoplifting! He stole an energy drink (because I won't let him have them)

I had to go in, talk to them, sign papers etc.

So I left work in tears to go to him.

I was greeted with 'he is a tough nut to crack!' but I've cracked him now, he's

crying!'

I said he has Aspergers, he probably was too overwhelmed and didn't know what to

say. That explains a lot then he says.

Get to my son who is by himself in an interview room crying! My heart broke yet

I still suppose to be mad.

They leave us alone to talk where I ask him who dies this, he says everyone.

Learnt a lesson bla bla bla. Police ask me if I want him to go to court, well

duh, no thanks. Given official warning.

When leavin 15 yr old Aspie son tells me they were yelling at him 'fn answer me'

but he could find the words.

Now if it was an autistic child who looked and sounded very different would they

have done different? Probably .

Now he hates police so if ever in trouble won't ask for help .

He was stopped by security guard taken in car by police, in an interview room

all on his own, yelled at, bike left at shops. What a daunting experience!

Kel

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All that over an energy drink... thats nuts. How far after he was taken in did they contact you. If they knew he was a minor that should be immedately, and they aren't supposed to talk to him at all without your prescence, at least in most states. I almost think there should be a medical alert bracelet that would tell people like cops that he has Asperger's he isn't trying to be rude or anything like that. Sadly, it would probably cause more problems then it would fix.

From: jazjamloch@...Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:28:41 -0700Subject: Re: ( ) police

Dear group, yesterday I got a phone call from police station, saying they had my son shoplifting! He stole an energy drink (because I won't let him have them) I had to go in, talk to them, sign papers etc. So I left work in tears to go to him. I was greeted with 'he is a tough nut to crack!' but I've cracked him now, he's crying!' I said he has Aspergers, he probably was too overwhelmed and didn't know what to say. That explains a lot then he says. Get to my son who is by himself in an interview room crying! My heart broke yet I still suppose to be mad.They leave us alone to talk where I ask him who dies this, he says everyone. Learnt a lesson bla bla bla. Police ask me if I want him to go to court, well duh, no thanks. Given official warning. When leavin 15 yr old Aspie son tells me they were yelling at him 'fn answer me' but he could find the words. Now if it was an autistic child who looked and sounded very different would they have done different? Probably . Now he hates police so if ever in trouble won't ask for help . He was stopped by security guard taken in car by police, in an interview room all on his own, yelled at, bike left at shops. What a daunting experience! KelSent from my iPhone

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I read something in my social hidden curriculum book. Aspergers children AND adults should carry with them at all times a card that states that they do not understand questions, that a parent (with a number) be called, or an attorney be present before ANY questions be answered. There can be as much information on the index card as possible - like no touching, child is rude but doesnt know it, child is socially awkward and is scared... etc. If you need more information, I can bring it up from my book. My son has one of these cards which also designates a 'safe person' that he is allowed to go to.

From: G <fnofsports@...>Aspergers Treatment Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 5:41:05 PMSubject: RE: ( ) police

All that over an energy drink... thats nuts. How far after he was taken in did they contact you. If they knew he was a minor that should be immedately, and they aren't supposed to talk to him at all without your prescence, at least in most states. I almost think there should be a medical alert bracelet that would tell people like cops that he has Asperger's he isn't trying to be rude or anything like that. Sadly, it would probably cause more problems then it would fix.

From: jazjamloch (DOT) comDate: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:28:41 -0700Subject: Re: ( ) police

Dear group, yesterday I got a phone call from police station, saying they had my son shoplifting! He stole an energy drink (because I won't let him have them) I had to go in, talk to them, sign papers etc. So I left work in tears to go to him. I was greeted with 'he is a tough nut to crack!' but I've cracked him now, he's crying!' I said he has Aspergers, he probably was too overwhelmed and didn't know what to say. That explains a lot then he says. Get to my son who is by himself in an interview room crying! My heart broke yet I still suppose to be mad.They leave us alone to talk where I ask him who dies this, he says everyone. Learnt a lesson bla bla bla. Police ask me if I want him to go to court, well duh, no thanks. Given official warning. When leavin 15 yr old Aspie son tells me they were yelling at him 'fn answer me' but he could find the words. Now if it was an autistic child who looked and

sounded very different would they have done different? Probably . Now he hates police so if ever in trouble won't ask for help . He was stopped by security guard taken in car by police, in an interview room all on his own, yelled at, bike left at shops. What a daunting experience! KelSent from my iPhone

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My Aspie son is also deathly allergic to peanuts, as well as an asthmatic. His medic alert bracelet says: ASTHMAAsperger’sAnaphylaxis:Allergic to peanutsNeeds epipen So I think you CAN put Asperger’s On a medic alert bracelet =) From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of GSent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 7:11 PMAspergers Treatment Subject: RE: ( ) police All that over an energy drink... thats nuts. How far after he was taken in did they contact you. If they knew he was a minor that should be immedately, and they aren't supposed to talk to him at all without your prescence, at least in most states. I almost think there should be a medical alert bracelet that would tell people like cops that he has Asperger's he isn't trying to be rude or anything like that. Sadly, it would probably cause more problems then it would fix. From: jazjamloch@...Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:28:41 -0700Subject: Re: ( ) police Dear group, yesterday I got a phone call from police station, saying they had my son shoplifting! He stole an energy drink (because I won't let him have them) I had to go in, talk to them, sign papers etc. So I left work in tears to go to him. I was greeted with 'he is a tough nut to crack!' but I've cracked him now, he's crying!' I said he has Aspergers, he probably was too overwhelmed and didn't know what to say. That explains a lot then he says. Get to my son who is by himself in an interview room crying! My heart broke yet I still suppose to be mad.They leave us alone to talk where I ask him who dies this, he says everyone. Learnt a lesson bla bla bla. Police ask me if I want him to go to court, well duh, no thanks. Given official warning. When leavin 15 yr old Aspie son tells me they were yelling at him 'fn answer me' but he could find the words. Now if it was an autistic child who looked and sounded very different would they have done different? Probably . Now he hates police so if ever in trouble won't ask for help . He was stopped by security guard taken in car by police, in an interview room all on his own, yelled at, bike left at shops. What a daunting experience! KelSent from my iPhone The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy.

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maybe some volunteer work with the police station to see how they help the comunity might help int he future so he isn't mad at them forever.From: Mayne <jazjamloch@...>Subject: Re: ( ) police" " < >Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 3:28 PM

Dear group, yesterday I got a phone call from police station, saying they had my son shoplifting! He stole an energy drink (because I won't let him have them)

I had to go in, talk to them, sign papers etc.

So I left work in tears to go to him.

I was greeted with 'he is a tough nut to crack!' but I've cracked him now, he's crying!'

I said he has Aspergers, he probably was too overwhelmed and didn't know what to say. That explains a lot then he says.

Get to my son who is by himself in an interview room crying! My heart broke yet I still suppose to be mad.

They leave us alone to talk where I ask him who dies this, he says everyone. Learnt a lesson bla bla bla. Police ask me if I want him to go to court, well duh, no thanks. Given official warning.

When leavin 15 yr old Aspie son tells me they were yelling at him 'fn answer me' but he could find the words.

Now if it was an autistic child who looked and sounded very different would they have done different? Probably .

Now he hates police so if ever in trouble won't ask for help .

He was stopped by security guard taken in car by police, in an interview room all on his own, yelled at, bike left at shops. What a daunting experience!

Kel

Sent from my iPhone

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry to hear what your son went through. This is one of my fears for 15-yr-old son.

There is a medical alert bracelet for Autism. Google it and ;ook under 'safe and sound' for children under age of 18yrs old and one for 18yrs and older. I'm thinking of registering my son. I've talked to him about the alert bracelet ('girly' for him) but preferred a 'dog tag' necklace which they do have.

I hope your son has recovered to an unfortunate incident at the police station.

From: G <fnofsports@...>Subject: RE: ( ) policeAspergers Treatment Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 2:41 PM

All that over an energy drink... thats nuts. How far after he was taken in did they contact you. If they knew he was a minor that should be immedately, and they aren't supposed to talk to him at all without your prescence, at least in most states. I almost think there should be a medical alert bracelet that would tell people like cops that he has Asperger's he isn't trying to be rude or anything like that. Sadly, it would probably cause more problems then it would fix.

From: jazjamloch (DOT) comDate: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:28:41 -0700Subject: Re: ( ) police

Dear group, yesterday I got a phone call from police station, saying they had my son shoplifting! He stole an energy drink (because I won't let him have them) I had to go in, talk to them, sign papers etc. So I left work in tears to go to him. I was greeted with 'he is a tough nut to crack!' but I've cracked him now, he's crying!' I said he has Aspergers, he probably was too overwhelmed and didn't know what to say. That explains a lot then he says. Get to my son who is by himself in an interview room crying! My heart broke yet I still suppose to be mad.They leave us alone to talk where I ask him who dies this, he says everyone. Learnt a lesson bla bla bla. Police ask me if I want him to go to court, well duh, no thanks. Given official warning. When leavin 15 yr old Aspie son tells me they were yelling at him 'fn answer me' but he could find the words. Now if it was an autistic child who looked and

sounded very different would they have done different? Probably . Now he hates police so if ever in trouble won't ask for help . He was stopped by security guard taken in car by police, in an interview room all on his own, yelled at, bike left at shops. What a daunting experience! KelSent from my iPhone

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Kel,

Don't know if this will help,,,,,,,,because some damage has already been done, but our town which is just 4000 people has gotten our police dept on board and have had the chief come to a couple of our Autism Spectrum Disorder meetings the last couple of months to "get a feel for how our kids are".

The police dept has held info meetings with their officers on how a child with AS (and any ASD) may behave if stopped and questioned, etc.They also have a "form" that parents can fill out on their child and then submit it with a pix of their kid.

The info will be submitted onto their intracomputer systems so that when the childs' name, the family name, the address or the home phone "pops" up for the officers, so will quick, basic info on the child. The amazing thing that the chief was sharing with us all at the last ASD meeting was that none of the officers knew that NO EYE CONTACT was a symptom. They said that they are taught that NO EYE CONTACT is a sign of guilt. UGH.

So....maybe something like that could be chatted about with a local group by you, if you have one? Or perhaps info on ASD could be taken to the police dept and they would welcome the info.......????I'm stretching, I know. I know that I'm also rambling. I'm trying to get this typed while we are under a tornado watch and 3 of my kids are loving the wind while another is freaking out.

Hope this made sense.

Hugs to you and your son.

Ahhhhh, Laughter................

Robin

From: G <fnofsports@...>Subject: RE: ( ) policeAspergers Treatment Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 4:41 PM

All that over an energy drink... thats nuts. How far after he was taken in did they contact you. If they knew he was a minor that should be immedately, and they aren't supposed to talk to him at all without your prescence, at least in most states. I almost think there should be a medical alert bracelet that would tell people like cops that he has Asperger's he isn't trying to be rude or anything like that. Sadly, it would probably cause more problems then it would fix.

From: jazjamloch (DOT) comDate: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:28:41 -0700Subject: Re: ( ) police

Dear group, yesterday I got a phone call from police station, saying they had my son shoplifting! He stole an energy drink (because I won't let him have them) I had to go in, talk to them, sign papers etc. So I left work in tears to go to him. I was greeted with 'he is a tough nut to crack!' but I've cracked him now, he's crying!' I said he has Aspergers, he probably was too overwhelmed and didn't know what to say. That explains a lot then he says. Get to my son who is by himself in an interview room crying! My heart broke yet I still suppose to be mad.They leave us alone to talk where I ask him who dies this, he says everyone. Learnt a lesson bla bla bla. Police ask me if I want him to go to court, well duh, no thanks. Given official warning. When leavin 15 yr old Aspie son tells me they were yelling at him 'fn answer me' but he could find the words. Now if it was an autistic child who looked and

sounded very different would they have done different? Probably . Now he hates police so if ever in trouble won't ask for help . He was stopped by security guard taken in car by police, in an interview room all on his own, yelled at, bike left at shops. What a daunting experience! KelSent from my iPhone

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Robin, This is amazing information. I have actually thought about getting a medial alert bracelet for my daughter. And am thinking about going to the police station and talking to them about my daughter. Thanks for that info!!! B. On May 4, 2010, at 6:12 PM, and/or Robin Lemke wrote:

Kel,

Don't know if this will help,,,,,,,,because some damage has already been done, but our town which is just 4000 people has gotten our police dept on board and have had the chief come to a couple of our Autism Spectrum Disorder meetings the last couple of months to "get a feel for how our kids are".

The police dept has held info meetings with their officers on how a child with AS (and any ASD) may behave if stopped and questioned, etc.They also have a "form" that parents can fill out on their child and then submit it with a pix of their kid.

The info will be submitted onto their intracomputer systems so that when the childs' name, the family name, the address or the home phone "pops" up for the officers, so will quick, basic info on the child. The amazing thing that the chief was sharing with us all at the last ASD meeting was that none of the officers knew that NO EYE CONTACT was a symptom. They said that they are taught that NO EYE CONTACT is a sign of guilt. UGH.

So....maybe something like that could be chatted about with a local group by you, if you have one? Or perhaps info on ASD could be taken to the police dept and they would welcome the info.......????I'm stretching, I know. I know that I'm also rambling. I'm trying to get this typed while we are under a tornado watch and 3 of my kids are loving the wind while another is freaking out.

Hope this made sense.

Hugs to you and your son.

Ahhhhh, Laughter................

Robin

From: G <fnofsportshotmail>Subject: RE: ( ) policeAspergers Treatment Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 4:41 PM

All that over an energy drink... thats nuts. How far after he was taken in did they contact you. If they knew he was a minor that should be immedately, and they aren't supposed to talk to him at all without your prescence, at least in most states. I almost think there should be a medical alert bracelet that would tell people like cops that he has Asperger's he isn't trying to be rude or anything like that. Sadly, it would probably cause more problems then it would fix.

From: jazjamloch (DOT) comDate: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:28:41 -0700Subject: Re: ( ) police

Dear group, yesterday I got a phone call from police station, saying they had my son shoplifting! He stole an energy drink (because I won't let him have them) I had to go in, talk to them, sign papers etc. So I left work in tears to go to him. I was greeted with 'he is a tough nut to crack!' but I've cracked him now, he's crying!' I said he has Aspergers, he probably was too overwhelmed and didn't know what to say. That explains a lot then he says. Get to my son who is by himself in an interview room crying! My heart broke yet I still suppose to be mad.They leave us alone to talk where I ask him who dies this, he says everyone. Learnt a lesson bla bla bla. Police ask me if I want him to go to court, well duh, no thanks. Given official warning. When leavin 15 yr old Aspie son tells me they were yelling at him 'fn answer me' but he could find the words. Now if it was an autistic child who looked and

sounded very different would they have done different? Probably . Now he hates police so if ever in trouble won't ask for help . He was stopped by security guard taken in car by police, in an interview room all on his own, yelled at, bike left at shops. What a daunting experience! KelSent from my iPhone

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“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

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http://www.americanmedical-id.com/marketplace/buildpage_jfk.phpHere's the site for the kids medical alert bracelets, they have sports ones that aren't so medical like. Caitlin has picked hers out and it looks stylish :-D B.On May 4, 2010, at 5:12 PM, lisa marasigan wrote:

I'm sorry to hear what your son went through. This is one of my fears for 15-yr-old son.

There is a medical alert bracelet for Autism. Google it and ;ook under 'safe and sound' for children under age of 18yrs old and one for 18yrs and older. I'm thinking of registering my son. I've talked to him about the alert bracelet ('girly' for him) but preferred a 'dog tag' necklace which they do have.

I hope your son has recovered to an unfortunate incident at the police station.

From: G <fnofsportshotmail>Subject: RE: ( ) policeAspergers Treatment Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 2:41 PM

All that over an energy drink... thats nuts. How far after he was taken in did they contact you. If they knew he was a minor that should be immedately, and they aren't supposed to talk to him at all without your prescence, at least in most states. I almost think there should be a medical alert bracelet that would tell people like cops that he has Asperger's he isn't trying to be rude or anything like that. Sadly, it would probably cause more problems then it would fix.

From: jazjamloch (DOT) comDate: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:28:41 -0700Subject: Re: ( ) police

Dear group, yesterday I got a phone call from police station, saying they had my son shoplifting! He stole an energy drink (because I won't let him have them) I had to go in, talk to them, sign papers etc. So I left work in tears to go to him. I was greeted with 'he is a tough nut to crack!' but I've cracked him now, he's crying!' I said he has Aspergers, he probably was too overwhelmed and didn't know what to say. That explains a lot then he says. Get to my son who is by himself in an interview room crying! My heart broke yet I still suppose to be mad.They leave us alone to talk where I ask him who dies this, he says everyone. Learnt a lesson bla bla bla. Police ask me if I want him to go to court, well duh, no thanks. Given official warning. When leavin 15 yr old Aspie son tells me they were yelling at him 'fn answer me' but he could find the words. Now if it was an autistic child who looked and

sounded very different would they have done different? Probably . Now he hates police so if ever in trouble won't ask for help . He was stopped by security guard taken in car by police, in an interview room all on his own, yelled at, bike left at shops. What a daunting experience! KelSent from my iPhone

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“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

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Most AS kids want to be very honest. So I am surprised he

stole something. But my daughter before she was on medication

would hit me in public and the police have been called more than

once when others saw what she was doing. She was out of control. The police in

two different NJ towns were both times understanding when I said she had AS to

explain why she was hitting and I told then she was in treatment with a

pyschiatrist. After the second police incident anytime she raised her hand in

public I said I would call the police myself and I would shout out for help

figuring it was better than people guessing if she was hitting me or was I

hitting her. She didn't like that I yelled out for help but didn't mind that she

was hitting me. This was really out of control behavior often in response to me

not giving her extra money. In my daughter's case medication was really the

answer. An increase in her zoloft really put an end to this over the top

behavior.

Pam

Pam

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> Dear group, yesterday I got a phone call from police station, saying they had

my son shoplifting! He stole an energy drink (because I won't let him have them)

> I had to go in, talk to them, sign papers etc.

> So I left work in tears to go to him.

> I was greeted with 'he is a tough nut to crack!' but I've cracked him now,

he's crying!'

> I said he has Aspergers, he probably was too overwhelmed and didn't know what

to say. That explains a lot then he says.

> Get to my son who is by himself in an interview room crying! My heart broke

yet I still suppose to be mad.

> They leave us alone to talk where I ask him who dies this, he says everyone.

Learnt a lesson bla bla bla. Police ask me if I want him to go to court, well

duh, no thanks. Given official warning.

> When leavin 15 yr old Aspie son tells me they were yelling at him 'fn answer

me' but he could find the words.

> Now if it was an autistic child who looked and sounded very different would

they have done different? Probably .

> Now he hates police so if ever in trouble won't ask for help .

> He was stopped by security guard taken in car by police, in an interview room

all on his own, yelled at, bike left at shops. What a daunting experience!

> Kel

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> Sent from my iPhone

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I like the idea of the card more detail would be awesome.

Kel

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Yeh not like him and was not very good at but copying peers. And he knew I would

not let him have the energy drink so could not ask to buy it

Kel

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No problem!!! Over the years, we did the bracelet and carried a card. My husband and I even carried a card that "quickly" explained our son - we could hand them out to people who were either rude to him/us or those whom we felt needed to know about Ian.

BUT,,,,,,,the police chief stated that the LAST thing an officer will allow is for a "suspect" or kid not "acting typical" to do , is to reach into his/her pocket to get the card out. Sure,,,,in time, they may be allowed to, but not when it would be needed.

That freaked me out. Hadn't thought of that. And I realized that my son wouldn't be able to efffectively tell the officer, "Sir, I have AS which hinders my ability to react socially appropriate with you. I' won't look you in the eyes,,,,," ....etc. I know this is a bit odd (how I described what my son wouldn't say,,,,but I just knew that if an officer stopped him, he WOULD NOT be able to advocate for himself. Ugh.

Glad it helped!!!!

Ahhhhh, Laughter................

Robin

From: G <fnofsportshotmail (DOT) com>Subject: RE: ( ) policeAspergers TreatmentDate: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 4:41 PM

All that over an energy drink... thats nuts. How far after he was taken in did they contact you. If they knew he was a minor that should be immedately, and they aren't supposed to talk to him at all without your prescence, at least in most states. I almost think there should be a medical alert bracelet that would tell people like cops that he has Asperger's he isn't trying to be rude or anything like that. Sadly, it would probably cause more problems then it would fix.

From: jazjamloch (DOT) comDate: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:28:41 -0700Subject: Re: ( ) police

Dear group, yesterday I got a phone call from police station, saying they had my son shoplifting! He stole an energy drink (because I won't let him have them) I had to go in, talk to them, sign papers etc. So I left work in tears to go to him. I was greeted with 'he is a tough nut to crack!' but I've cracked him now, he's crying!' I said he has Aspergers, he probably was too overwhelmed and didn't know what to say. That explains a lot then he says. Get to my son who is by himself in an interview room crying! My heart broke yet I still suppose to be mad.They leave us alone to talk where I ask him who dies this, he says everyone. Learnt a lesson bla bla bla. Police ask me if I want him to go to court, well duh, no thanks. Given official warning. When leavin 15 yr old Aspie son tells me they were yelling at him 'fn answer me' but he could find the words. Now if it was an autistic child who looked and

sounded very different would they have done different? Probably . Now he hates police so if ever in trouble won't ask for help . He was stopped by security guard taken in car by police, in an interview room all on his own, yelled at, bike left at shops. What a daunting experience! KelSent from my iPhone

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Medic Alert also offers a similar program, and have the option of stating Autism

on the bracelet. It's actually fairly inexpensive and runs in the same manner as

if you had diabetes, heart problems, etc.

Dawn Marie

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> All that over an energy drink... thats nuts.  How far after he was taken in

did they contact you.  If they knew he was a minor that should be immedately,

and they aren't supposed to talk to him at all without your prescence, at least

in most states.  I almost think there should be a medical alert bracelet that

would tell people like cops that he has Asperger's he isn't trying to be rude or

anything like that.  Sadly, it would probably cause more problems then it

would fix.

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> Dear group, yesterday I got a phone call from police station, saying they had

my son shoplifting! He stole an energy drink (because I won't let him have them)

> I had to go in, talk to them, sign papers etc.

> So I left work in tears to go to him.

> I was greeted with 'he is a tough nut to crack!' but I've cracked him now,

he's crying!'

> I said he has Aspergers, he probably was too overwhelmed and didn't know what

to say. That explains a lot then he says.

> Get to my son who is by himself in an interview room crying! My heart broke

yet I still suppose to be mad.

> They leave us alone to talk where I ask him who dies this, he says everyone.

Learnt a lesson bla bla bla. Police ask me if I want him to go to court, well

duh, no thanks. Given official warning.

> When leavin 15 yr old Aspie son tells me they were yelling at him 'fn answer

me' but he could find the words.

> Now if it was an autistic child who looked and sounded very different would

they have done different? Probably .

> Now he hates police so if ever in trouble won't ask for help .

> He was stopped by security guard taken in car by police, in an interview room

all on his own, yelled at, bike left at shops. What a daunting experience!

> Kel

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> The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with

Hotmail. Get busy.

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I created a safety card for my son based on other cards I found by searching the

web. The card can be used in any emergency - not just with police, but with any

emergency responder.

One side of the card has my son's name, date of birth, and home phone number

plus space for the names & phone numbers of people who can be called in an

emergency. The other side has some bullet points about Aspergers. I printed the

document in a two-column table and then folded it in half to create a card. I

covered the paper with tape to make it a little more sturdy. It's about the size

of a drivers license and so is easy to carry in a wallet.

Here's the text I used. I selected points that made sense for my son, but you

may want to change things a bit based on how your child reacts when under

pressure.

___________

I have Aspergers Syndrome, a type of autism that affects how I communicate and

interact with people. Because of my Aspergers Syndrome, I may

- Have difficulty making eye contact.

- Not be able to answer questions.

- Panic if yelled at, touched, or restrained.

- Appear not to be listening or paying attention.

- Tend to interpret statements literally.

- Speak too loud, too soft, or with unusual intonation.

- Appear rude or say things that are inappropriate.

I would like to cooperate. If I am distressed, PLEASE

- Do not assume that my Asperger traits constitute suspicious behavior.

- Identify yourself as a police officer or first responder.

- Call the emergency contacts on the back of this card.

- Tell me exactly what to do, politely, clearly, simply, literally, and step by

step.

- Find a quiet, safe place where I can be alone and calm myself down.

- Avoid touching or restraining me.

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, Thats awesome!! Thank you for sharing that and allowing us to use it!! Much Appreciated!! This is something I worry about a lot, especially since Caitlin is getting older and her outbursts are a lil less "tolerated" by those around us. Thank you thank you!! B.On May 5, 2010, at 11:23 AM, wrote:

I created a safety card for my son based on other cards I found by searching the web. The card can be used in any emergency - not just with police, but with any emergency responder.

One side of the card has my son's name, date of birth, and home phone number plus space for the names & phone numbers of people who can be called in an emergency. The other side has some bullet points about Aspergers. I printed the document in a two-column table and then folded it in half to create a card. I covered the paper with tape to make it a little more sturdy. It's about the size of a drivers license and so is easy to carry in a wallet.

Here's the text I used. I selected points that made sense for my son, but you may want to change things a bit based on how your child reacts when under pressure.

___________

I have Aspergers Syndrome, a type of autism that affects how I communicate and interact with people. Because of my Aspergers Syndrome, I may

- Have difficulty making eye contact.

- Not be able to answer questions.

- Panic if yelled at, touched, or restrained.

- Appear not to be listening or paying attention.

- Tend to interpret statements literally.

- Speak too loud, too soft, or with unusual intonation.

- Appear rude or say things that are inappropriate.

I would like to cooperate. If I am distressed, PLEASE

- Do not assume that my Asperger traits constitute suspicious behavior.

- Identify yourself as a police officer or first responder.

- Call the emergency contacts on the back of this card.

- Tell me exactly what to do, politely, clearly, simply, literally, and step by step.

- Find a quiet, safe place where I can be alone and calm myself down.

- Avoid touching or restraining me.

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs