Guest guest Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 In a message dated 1/9/03 8:13:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jase4567@... writes: , Cleaning out your house is a great first step. I am always hesitant to give advice but here goes. wrote: Why dont I have the will power. Why does the urge for the taste of it over power me. The only person I am hurting is ME ME ME... When I got started on my journey I happen to catch Dr. Phil on Oprah talking about weight loss. He said one thing that has literally changed my life. He said ask yourself the following question. "What do I get out of being fat?" At first I thought ...NOTHING but pain and misery. But I decided to sit and spend some time writing about this question because I had to get something good out of it or I would have stopped long ago. I spent a couple of days thinking about it before I sat down to write. When I started to write I was shocked at what came out. I can't even express how powerful this question has been in my life. These are just two examples of my answers...the rest I will keep to myself...you don't need to know all my flaws! LOL When I was fat nobody expected much from me. I used my fat as an excuse not to participate in my own life. Because losing weight was always on my mind I never made any other goals. When I lost weight I knew I would be responsible for my own life and happiness. When I was fat I had an excuse to let one of my big character flaws run wild. I am lazy! I used my fat and my health as the reason why my house was always a mess but the truth was it was me. Granted I was exhausted by my weight but without the weight I would not have the excuse of being tired. I would have to admit I was Lazy! After I was able to answer this question I really started to make progress in good decision making and I was able to be at peace with my new lifestyle. I hope this helps but if not...you know how to use the delete key! LOL Rae 260/148/150 "Amazingly enough, we all live inside a body that is capable of improvement everyday...what are you waiting for?" Brock Hierlmeier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 thanks for the great advice. I will ponder that question. NH Mommy to Abby Liz 10-25-94 Mommy to Anne 7-1-99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 In a message dated 1/9/03 12:52:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, karbchickadee@... writes: Rae - THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!! Awesome is all I can say! Awww ...I wish I could say I thought up the question! Your thank you makes it worth while that I shared that I am not perfect! LOL I bet you didn't think I was anyway! hehehehe Rae 260/148/150 "Amazingly enough, we all live inside a body that is capable of improvement everyday...what are you waiting for?" Brock Hierlmeier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 In a message dated 1/9/2003 9:55:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, Mejim6 writes: > I hope this helps Rae - THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!! Awesome is all I can say! Hugs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 When my son was due for more vaccines I only had titers that said he was immune to the MMR. I asked what the preservative was in the rest and was told if it was not thimerasol " (trace amounts that won't hurt anybody) " then if was formaldahyde, sorry I can't spell its to early. So if they aren't trying to poison you with mercury they are going to embalm you! Evidently I was getting upset enough that the doctor agreed to test his titers (I had to take him some place else before because our ped. thought I was crazy). He was immune to everything except pertussis which in NC you don't need after the age of 7 anyway. My ped. has always had studies and notes saying vaccines don't cause autism up in the offices. I always point out the flaws. Before my sons 5 yr visit her son got an ADHD diagnosis. She is starting to listen and come around so I gave her the EOH book. She promised to read it. Maybe she will start being alot more receptive after hearing about studies other than the dribble the CDC puts out. > If in fact Thimerasol was removed from most vaccines except a trace > then why was it needed in the first place? Are the new vaccines single > dose vials? If not, and a preservative is needed for multi dose vials > then WHAT IS IT? We must demand to see the new list of ingredients > that replaced Thimerasol!!! Do you really think they are willing to > lighten up thier deep pockets for ANYBODY!!! They keep saying " we > removed it " but no one asked what IT was replaced with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 --- Hatcher <woman.n.a.shoe@...> wrote: He was immune to everything except pertussis which in NC you don't need after the age of 7 anyway. i believe it's not recommended to people over the age of 6 because after that point the risks from the vaccine outweight the benefits. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Pellets are the best but I feel cost the most and health care plains don't pay for it. Next is shots but doing them every 3 days your shooting less and more offten this keeps E2 down and you are more leveled. Some do ok 2x's a week. The gels are the worst my E2 was off the top on them and DHT. flyinresorts <flyinresorts@...> wrote: whats the best method to raise testosterone with the least impact on elevating E2? Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. " Phil --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside . See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 One tab of arimidex, a day, I read a study, in age group, twenty to forty year old men, one tab a day increased T fifty percent, and althought not mentioned in the study, must have lowered E2 drastically. regards david Big question > whats the best method to raise testosterone with the least impact on > elevating E2? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 This will only work if your Secondary when your E2 gets very high it fills the cells and your brain can't tell the difference between them and thinks the E2 is testosterone. So it stops sending the LH message to the testis to make more testosterone. Getting E2 down and you don't need to do one hole pill a day your brain will see your testosterone is in fact low and start sending the LH messages. This is how T levels come back up. Here is a link about it. http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174 One needs to be careful not to bring E2 down to low this is just as bad as to high. appreciative dAVId <dhallgar@...> wrote: One tab of arimidex, a day, I read a study, in age group, twenty to forty year old men, one tab a day increased T fifty percent, and althought not mentioned in the study, must have lowered E2 drastically. regards david Big question > whats the best method to raise testosterone with the least impact on > elevating E2? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Outstanding article Phil. Thanks. Bobby > One tab of arimidex, a day, I read a study, in age group, twenty to forty > year old men, one tab a day increased T fifty percent, and althought not > mentioned in the study, must have lowered E2 drastically. > regards david > Big question > > > whats the best method to raise testosterone with the least impact on > > elevating E2? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 This is exactly what I neeeded to know. Extremely helpful. whats the best method to raise testosterone with the least impact on > elevating E2? > > > > > > > Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. " > Phil > > --------------------------------- > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside . See how. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 One tab per day?!?!? Wow, that seems like a lot of arimidex. My dose was 0.5 every three days, and the doctor took me off because E2 was getting too low...though I'd been on it for almost 2 years. I suspect my E2 is crept back up after 4 months or so off the arimidex, based on some symptoms. On Nov 23, 2007, at 7:07 AM, appreciative dAVId wrote: > One tab of arimidex, a day, I read a study, in age group, twenty to > forty > year old men, one tab a day increased T fifty percent, and althought > not > mentioned in the study, must have lowered E2 drastically. > regards david > Big question > > >> whats the best method to raise testosterone with the least impact on >> elevating E2? >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Dave I use my night time and morning wood to gauge my dose of Arimidex. After a blood test showing your to high go on .25mgs every 3 days in about 2 weeks you should get some strong night time and morning wood this means your at the best level for your body. Keep taking this but if your wood stops then your going to low. So stop until wood comes back that day go back on the Arimidex but do it every 5 days. And so on. Dave <groupsdude@...> wrote: One tab per day?!?!? Wow, that seems like a lot of arimidex. My dose was 0.5 every three days, and the doctor took me off because E2 was getting too low...though I'd been on it for almost 2 years. I suspect my E2 is crept back up after 4 months or so off the arimidex, based on some symptoms. On Nov 23, 2007, at 7:07 AM, appreciative dAVId wrote: > One tab of arimidex, a day, I read a study, in age group, twenty to > forty > year old men, one tab a day increased T fifty percent, and althought > not > mentioned in the study, must have lowered E2 drastically. > regards david > Big question > > >> whats the best method to raise testosterone with the least impact on >> elevating E2? >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Your welcome. flyinresorts <flyinresorts@...> wrote: This is exactly what I neeeded to know. Extremely helpful. whats the best method to raise testosterone with the least impact on > elevating E2? > > > > > > > Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. " > Phil > > --------------------------------- > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside . See how. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Phil - Thanks, I know the drill there. Nipple sensitivity is another gage for me, and " weepiness " as well. Doc stopped the arimidex prescription..I need to try to manage with DIM until new labs convince him to put me back on the arimidex. On Nov 23, 2007, at 8:41 AM, philip georgian wrote: > Dave I use my night time and morning wood to gauge my dose of > Arimidex. After a blood test showing your to high go on .25mgs > every 3 days in about 2 weeks you should get some strong night time > and morning wood this means your at the best level for your body. > Keep taking this but if your wood stops then your going to low. So > stop until wood comes back that day go back on the Arimidex but do > it every 5 days. And so on. > > Dave <groupsdude@...> wrote: One tab per day?!?!? > Wow, that seems like a lot of arimidex. My dose > was 0.5 every three days, and the doctor took me off because E2 was > getting too low...though I'd been on it for almost 2 years. I suspect > my E2 is crept back up after 4 months or so off the arimidex, based on > some symptoms. > > On Nov 23, 2007, at 7:07 AM, appreciative dAVId wrote: > >> One tab of arimidex, a day, I read a study, in age group, twenty to >> forty >> year old men, one tab a day increased T fifty percent, and althought >> not >> mentioned in the study, must have lowered E2 drastically. >> regards david >> Big question >> >> >>> whats the best method to raise testosterone with the least impact on >>> elevating E2? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 You can get some from this link. If you want it Email me pmgamer18 Dave <groupsdude@...> wrote: Phil - Thanks, I know the drill there. Nipple sensitivity is another gage for me, and " weepiness " as well. Doc stopped the arimidex prescription..I need to try to manage with DIM until new labs convince him to put me back on the arimidex. On Nov 23, 2007, at 8:41 AM, philip georgian wrote: > Dave I use my night time and morning wood to gauge my dose of > Arimidex. After a blood test showing your to high go on .25mgs > every 3 days in about 2 weeks you should get some strong night time > and morning wood this means your at the best level for your body. > Keep taking this but if your wood stops then your going to low. So > stop until wood comes back that day go back on the Arimidex but do > it every 5 days. And so on. > > Dave <groupsdude@...> wrote: One tab per day?!?!? > Wow, that seems like a lot of arimidex. My dose > was 0.5 every three days, and the doctor took me off because E2 was > getting too low...though I'd been on it for almost 2 years. I suspect > my E2 is crept back up after 4 months or so off the arimidex, based on > some symptoms. > > On Nov 23, 2007, at 7:07 AM, appreciative dAVId wrote: > >> One tab of arimidex, a day, I read a study, in age group, twenty to >> forty >> year old men, one tab a day increased T fifty percent, and althought >> not >> mentioned in the study, must have lowered E2 drastically. >> regards david >> Big question >> >> >>> whats the best method to raise testosterone with the least impact on >>> elevating E2? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Hi, The visit and pellets cost about $450 for a set of 20 - 75 mg T pellets installed under the skin in Augusta GA. As I am on Medicare, most of this expense is covered by Medicare leaving me about $60 per visit. Medicare does not cover these expenses in other parts of the country. These doctors are hard to find and in large cities the costs are much more. I get the pellets 3 times a year. The cost of transportation from NC to Augusta is significant as well. There is more than the cost involved here. I do not have any involvement with the therapy once the pellets are installed. I have no pain after the first week as the pellets find a nest in the fatty tissue. As the pellets dissolve constantly 24/7 at nearly a flat rate the chance of conversion of T to E2 is minimized. ernestnolan > > whats the best method to raise testosterone with the least impact on > elevating E2? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 We had similar issues with our 8.5 DD a couple of months ago. I figured that you wouldn't leave an adult alcoholic on their own in an office license and not expect them to drink to excess and so we took the same line with DD craving sugar. As a result for a few weeks we put all our non-fridge food items in one cupboard and got a combi-lock for it on a chain through the handles. Although this was annoying to me when cooking etc it a) reinforced that she was not to help herself and for a while could not be trusted alone with food in the kitchen allowed her to detox from all the sugar (she was eating similar amounts to those you give for your DD). It also provided a visible deterrent and reminder for a few weeks for her to break the cravings. We talked to DD about what was going on in her head and she talked about foods flashing and beeping at her. For example, chocolate spread was flashing and beeping at the start, but at the end of 4 weeks it was not - milk flashed and so did wheat bread at first, anything sweet on view in the room flashed and beeped to the point she was unable to stop herself taking them. At the end of about 4 weeks we began leaving the cupboard unlocked (not discussed with DD) from time to time and monitored if anything disappeared. Apart from one incident since, she has had no problem. Allowing her body to come down from the sugar rush (which after all is not dissimilar to a drug in impact) seemed to help her start to regain control of the cravings until they too subsided. The cupboard has not been locked for several weeks now and we have had no problems to date. It felt awful at first with the chain on the cupboard and as if we were somehow failing but when put in the light of something you wouldn't expect an adult to overcome in a similar situation it helped diffuse our negative emotions as parents. One other thing - we started out with a padlock and keys, but trying to put the key somewhere safe but hidden from DD and then one of us would forget etc, we changed to a number-combination lock so all you had to do was twist the tumblers to the correct sequence, unlock and remove it then retwist to obscure the correct sequence - this cut down on the hassle factor quite a lot. Hope you manage to find something that works for you. a From: Byrne Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:38 PM Subject: ( ) Big question My 8.5 DD has this problem where she craves (i guess thats whats happening) sugar. She will sneak a container of icing from the cupboard or Fridge and eat the entire contents. This scares me a lot! Or she will take an entire package of cup cakes and eat 8 of the 10. We have explained how unhealthy this is for her that having that much sugar is bad for her body and teeth. The explanations do not seem to be working. We dont deny her sweats but we do monitor how much she gets because sugar does impact her hyperactivity. I thought maybe it was anxiety. She is on Zoloft for her anxiety and it seems to come and go every now and then. I'm so afraid that she will gain Tons of weight doing this. We already get slack from the doctors about her weight, except that she's mostly muscle and they keep obsessing over the scale. any suggestions??? Thanks! “Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 OMG!!! My 15 year old does the same thing!!! I swear he eats weird stuff too....feeling the need to sneak and hide it. I cleaned out his room last week and found a bottle of mustard, a jar of sprinkles, a jar of hot fudge sauce, a big bag of chips and a jar of pickles....all hidden under his bed. It is the weirdest thing. I have not been successful in teaching him moderation and last year he began to show signs of pre-diabetes so we have "the candy cabinet" in which anything tempting gets locked up and can only be gotten into with supervision. That being said I keep lots of low or no sugar healthy snacks for him to eat. He is actually underweight so that isn't a concern....just the blood sugars over 300. It makes me feel better to know I am not alone with this issue though.He's also on Zoloft. Have you found a connection of any kind?GabiFrom: Byrne <kabob@...> Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 6:38:41 PMSubject: ( ) Big question My 8.5 DD has this problem where she craves (i guess thats whats happening) sugar. She will sneak a container of icing from the cupboard or Fridge and eat the entire contents. This scares me a lot! Or she will take an entire package of cup cakes and eat 8 of the 10. We have explained how unhealthy this is for her that having that much sugar is bad for her body and teeth. The explanations do not seem to be working. We dont deny her sweats but we do monitor how much she gets because sugar does impact her hyperactivity. I thought maybe it was anxiety. She is on Zoloft for her anxiety and it seems to come and go every now and then. I'm so afraid that she will gain Tons of weight doing this. We already get slack from the doctors about her weight, except that she's mostly muscle and they keep obsessing over the scale. any suggestions? ??Thanks! “Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.†- Steve Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Gabi, Nope she was doing this before the zoloft, however I do notice it tends to go away for a bit after they increase her dosages. Have you noticed that difference? I keep finding hidden "prizes" around our house as well. I keep telling her she can't do that because it invites pests into our house and is unhealthy. I really hope to get this under some sort of control. I dont want to make her stop having treats altogether. My fear is it will feed her desire for more. SOO I've been buying less and trying to get healthy sweet snacks like fruit those types of things. I think I"m going to have to do a locked cabinet for those sorts of items..... ugh I've been dreading this! Thanks for chiming in! On Mar 16, 2010, at 1:51 PM, social.buterfly@... wrote: OMG!!! My 15 year old does the same thing!!! I swear he eats weird stuff too....feeling the need to sneak and hide it. I cleaned out his room last week and found a bottle of mustard, a jar of sprinkles, a jar of hot fudge sauce, a big bag of chips and a jar of pickles....all hidden under his bed. It is the weirdest thing. I have not been successful in teaching him moderation and last year he began to show signs of pre-diabetes so we have "the candy cabinet" in which anything tempting gets locked up and can only be gotten into with supervision. That being said I keep lots of low or no sugar healthy snacks for him to eat. He is actually underweight so that isn't a concern....just the blood sugars over 300. It makes me feel better to know I am not alone with this issue though.He's also on Zoloft. Have you found a connection of any kind?GabiFrom: Byrne <kabobecatbox (DOT) net> Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 6:38:41 PMSubject: ( ) Big question My 8.5 DD has this problem where she craves (i guess thats whats happening) sugar. She will sneak a container of icing from the cupboard or Fridge and eat the entire contents. This scares me a lot! Or she will take an entire package of cup cakes and eat 8 of the 10. We have explained how unhealthy this is for her that having that much sugar is bad for her body and teeth. The explanations do not seem to be working. We dont deny her sweats but we do monitor how much she gets because sugar does impact her hyperactivity. I thought maybe it was anxiety. She is on Zoloft for her anxiety and it seems to come and go every now and then. I'm so afraid that she will gain Tons of weight doing this. We already get slack from the doctors about her weight, except that she's mostly muscle and they keep obsessing over the scale. any suggestions? ??Thanks! “Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs “Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Gabi, From the list you give, you might want to check out salicylates. I know that people do not go for such things in a big way on here and I have hesitated to say anything on this, but the list you give of hidden foods is a total hit for these. If you’re interested in this, try googling on salicylates. a -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of social.buterfly@... Sent: 16 March 2010 20:51 To: Subject: Re: ( ) Big question OMG!!! My 15 year old does the same thing!!! I swear he eats weird stuff too....feeling the need to sneak and hide it. I cleaned out his room last week and found a bottle of mustard, a jar of sprinkles, a jar of hot fudge sauce, a big bag of chips and a jar of pickles....all hidden under his bed. It is the weirdest thing. I have not been successful in teaching him moderation and last year he began to show signs of pre-diabetes so we have " the candy cabinet " in which anything tempting gets locked up and can only be gotten into with supervision. That being said I keep lots of low or no sugar healthy snacks for him to eat. He is actually underweight so that isn't a concern....just the blood sugars over 300. It makes me feel better to know I am not alone with this issue though. He's also on Zoloft. Have you found a connection of any kind? Gabi From: Byrne <kabobecatbox (DOT) net> Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 6:38:41 PM Subject: ( ) Big question My 8.5 DD has this problem where she craves (i guess thats whats happening) sugar. She will sneak a container of icing from the cupboard or Fridge and eat the entire contents. This scares me a lot! Or she will take an entire package of cup cakes and eat 8 of the 10. We have explained how unhealthy this is for her that having that much sugar is bad for her body and teeth. The explanations do not seem to be working. We dont deny her sweats but we do monitor how much she gets because sugar does impact her hyperactivity. I thought maybe it was anxiety. She is on Zoloft for her anxiety and it seems to come and go every now and then. I'm so afraid that she will gain Tons of weight doing this. We already get slack from the doctors about her weight, except that she's mostly muscle and they keep obsessing over the scale. any suggestions? ?? Thanks! “Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Hi, I have the same problem. I just put a luck in the refrigerator my girl eats every five minutes. She is overweight. We see a nutritionist and it is working at all. She gained a lot of weight for her birthday. She talked me into taking her to a buffet for her birthday. There she just filled a dish with sweets. I am buying just vegetables and fruits, but she eats every five minutes... Today I will ask her therapist to help me with this problem. I told her that if she does not lose any weight by the time we see ther nutritionist she will not be able to use the computer.. ( ) Big question> > > My 8.5 DD has this problem where she craves (i guess thats whats happening) sugar. She will sneak a container of icing from the cupboard or Fridge and eat the entire contents. This scares me a lot! Or she will take an entire package of cup cakes and eat 8 of the 10. We have explained how unhealthy this is for her that having that much sugar is bad for her body and teeth. The explanations do not seem to be working. We dont deny her sweats but we do monitor how much she gets because sugar does impact her hyperactivity. I thought maybe it was anxiety. She is on Zoloft for her anxiety and it seems to come and go every now and then. I'm so afraid that she will gain Tons of weight doing this. We already get slack from the doctors about her weight, except that she's mostly muscle and they keep obsessing over the scale. any suggestions? ??> > > Thanks! > > > > > > “Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.†- Steve Jobs> > > > > “Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.†- Steve Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Just a thought? what if instead of buying sweets from the store - the ones that are so easy to get to and so tempting to eat.. instead.....you both bake the sweets yourself. Like an after dinner treat. have it baking in the oven while you are eating your dinner. when dinner is over, dishes done - the homemade bake good would be ready to eat. by doing this - you can bake enough just for that one night. I bet your child would be surprised on how much sugar goes into each thing you bake. and you can show - how you can put less sugar in and it will still taste great! the visual helps... also when baking cookies - you can bake just enough for that night and freeze the rest for another night. baking apple pie is great too. (if you like apples) your child can help with that. lots of fun for us. Hope this helps...you can also get very easy recipes on the net. don't need any baking cook books. Let your child help in picking out something to bake for the night. Rose From: Byrne <kabob@...> Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 11:32:20 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Big question Gabi, Nope she was doing this before the zoloft, however I do notice it tends to go away for a bit after they increase her dosages. Have you noticed that difference? I keep finding hidden "prizes" around our house as well. I keep telling her she can't do that because it invites pests into our house and is unhealthy. I really hope to get this under some sort of control. I dont want to make her stop having treats altogether. My fear is it will feed her desire for more. SOO I've been buying less and trying to get healthy sweet snacks like fruit those types of things. I think I"m going to have to do a locked cabinet for those sorts of items..... ugh I've been dreading this! Thanks for chiming in! On Mar 16, 2010, at 1:51 PM, social.buterfly wrote: OMG!!! My 15 year old does the same thing!!! I swear he eats weird stuff too....feeling the need to sneak and hide it. I cleaned out his room last week and found a bottle of mustard, a jar of sprinkles, a jar of hot fudge sauce, a big bag of chips and a jar of pickles....all hidden under his bed. It is the weirdest thing. I have not been successful in teaching him moderation and last year he began to show signs of pre-diabetes so we have "the candy cabinet" in which anything tempting gets locked up and can only be gotten into with supervision. That being said I keep lots of low or no sugar healthy snacks for him to eat. He is actually underweight so that isn't a concern....just the blood sugars over 300. It makes me feel better to know I am not alone with this issue though.He's also on Zoloft. Have you found a connection of any kind?Gabi From: Byrne <kabobecatbox (DOT) net> Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 6:38:41 PMSubject: ( ) Big question My 8.5 DD has this problem where she craves (i guess thats whats happening) sugar. She will sneak a container of icing from the cupboard or Fridge and eat the entire contents. This scares me a lot! Or she will take an entire package of cup cakes and eat 8 of the 10. We have explained how unhealthy this is for her that having that much sugar is bad for her body and teeth. The explanations do not seem to be working. We dont deny her sweats but we do monitor how much she gets because sugar does impact her hyperactivity. I thought maybe it was anxiety. She is on Zoloft for her anxiety and it seems to come and go every now and then. I'm so afraid that she will gain Tons of weight doing this. We already get slack from the doctors about her weight, except that she's mostly muscle and they keep obsessing over the scale. any suggestions? ?? Thanks! “Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.†- Steve Jobs “Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.†- Steve Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 I've tried the freezing thing....he just gets it out and eats it when I am not looking or in the middle of the night. I don't buy boxed stuff like fruit snacks anymore because he will eat a whole box in a sitting if they aren't monitored. So IF he gets a snack it's usually a single serving size that I buy. I've just found it's easier to lock it all up. He does help me bake and does know how much sugar goes into things. for him, it doesn't seem to make a difference. But gives me something to think about. Thanks!GabiFrom: Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 9:01:52 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Big question Just a thought? what if instead of buying sweets from the store - the ones that are so easy to get to and so tempting to eat.. instead..... you both bake the sweets yourself. Like an after dinner treat. have it baking in the oven while you are eating your dinner. when dinner is over, dishes done - the homemade bake good would be ready to eat. by doing this - you can bake enough just for that one night. I bet your child would be surprised on how much sugar goes into each thing you bake. and you can show - how you can put less sugar in and it will still taste great! the visual helps... also when baking cookies - you can bake just enough for that night and freeze the rest for another night. baking apple pie is great too. (if you like apples) your child can help with that. lots of fun for us. Hope this helps...you can also get very easy recipes on the net. don't need any baking cook books. Let your child help in picking out something to bake for the night. Rose From: Byrne <kabobecatbox (DOT) net> Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 11:32:20 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Big question Gabi, Nope she was doing this before the zoloft, however I do notice it tends to go away for a bit after they increase her dosages. Have you noticed that difference? I keep finding hidden "prizes" around our house as well. I keep telling her she can't do that because it invites pests into our house and is unhealthy. I really hope to get this under some sort of control. I dont want to make her stop having treats altogether. My fear is it will feed her desire for more. SOO I've been buying less and trying to get healthy sweet snacks like fruit those types of things. I think I"m going to have to do a locked cabinet for those sorts of items..... ugh I've been dreading this! Thanks for chiming in! On Mar 16, 2010, at 1:51 PM, social.buterfly wrote: OMG!!! My 15 year old does the same thing!!! I swear he eats weird stuff too....feeling the need to sneak and hide it. I cleaned out his room last week and found a bottle of mustard, a jar of sprinkles, a jar of hot fudge sauce, a big bag of chips and a jar of pickles....all hidden under his bed. It is the weirdest thing. I have not been successful in teaching him moderation and last year he began to show signs of pre-diabetes so we have "the candy cabinet" in which anything tempting gets locked up and can only be gotten into with supervision. That being said I keep lots of low or no sugar healthy snacks for him to eat. He is actually underweight so that isn't a concern....just the blood sugars over 300. It makes me feel better to know I am not alone with this issue though.He's also on Zoloft. Have you found a connection of any kind?Gabi From: Byrne <kabobecatbox (DOT) net> Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 6:38:41 PMSubject: ( ) Big question My 8.5 DD has this problem where she craves (i guess thats whats happening) sugar. She will sneak a container of icing from the cupboard or Fridge and eat the entire contents. This scares me a lot! Or she will take an entire package of cup cakes and eat 8 of the 10. We have explained how unhealthy this is for her that having that much sugar is bad for her body and teeth. The explanations do not seem to be working. We dont deny her sweats but we do monitor how much she gets because sugar does impact her hyperactivity. I thought maybe it was anxiety. She is on Zoloft for her anxiety and it seems to come and go every now and then. I'm so afraid that she will gain Tons of weight doing this. We already get slack from the doctors about her weight, except that she's mostly muscle and they keep obsessing over the scale. any suggestions? ?? Thanks! “Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.†- Steve Jobs “Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.†- Steve Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 I am in the same situation, I have tried also everything. My girl is capable of eaten any object if not food is found.... Trying to compensate I walk with her, but at the end of the day I am phisycally burned out while she still keeps going... ( ) Big question>> >My 8.5 DD has this problem where she craves (i guess thats whats happening) sugar. She will sneak a container of icing from the cupboard or Fridge and eat the entire contents. This scares me a lot! Or she will take an entire package of cup cakes and eat 8 of the 10. We have explained how unhealthy this is for her that having that much sugar is bad for her body and teeth. The explanations do not seem to be working. We dont deny her sweats but we do monitor how much she gets because sugar does impact her hyperactivity. I thought maybe it was anxiety. She is on Zoloft for her anxiety and it seems to come and go every now and then. I'm so afraid that she will gain Tons of weight doing this. We already get slack from the doctors about her weight, except that she's mostly muscle and they keep obsessing over the scale. any suggestions? ??>>>Thanks! > >>>>>>>>>“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.†- Steve Jobs>>>>>“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.†- Steve Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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