Re: teacher requested medication increase!

December 10, 2009

Can you tell his teacher to go... nah probably not a good idea. I would tell the school that any medical decisions will be made between you, (maybe) your son, and the medical professionals qualified to make such a decision, and then I would demand an IEP.

From: dcarters@...Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:39:46 +0000Subject: ( ) teacher requested medication increase!

My 6 yr old Aspie has been acting out in class lately, apparently. Received a "note" on his behavior calendar earlier this week, that "meds may need to be increased, they are not working!". (behavior calendar is for everyone in class) First, he has been tested and denied any services, because he is making straight a's and is reading 2 levels above 1st grade. He has NO IEP, NO 504, NO behavior plan, NO accommodations. The only thing he gets is Ritalin at school, provided and paid for by us, of course. The school has not been willing to give him any accommodations at this point. They denied an IEP, didn't offer to evaluate for a 504 because he was "doing so well". Now, he's having behavior issues both in the classroom, and at PE. The PE coach called me today at work, and put my son on the phone. When I asked him what was going on, his reply to me was "my meds need to be increased, they aren't working" (what he read that his teacher had written on his behavior chart). I of course replied to him that he is still responsible for how he is acting, and that he had to listen to his teacher, whether he had medication or not. That wasn't an excuse. What would you guys suggest my next step should be? Interested in hearing what some of you would suggest.

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December 11, 2009

lol

From: G <fnofsports@...>Subject: RE: ( ) teacher requested medication increase!Aspergers Treatment Date: Friday, 11 December, 2009, 5:56

Can you tell his teacher to go... nah probably not a good idea. I would tell the school that any medical decisions will be made between you, (maybe) your son, and the medical professionals qualified to make such a decision, and then I would demand an IEP.

From: dcartersknology (DOT) netDate: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:39:46 +0000Subject: ( ) teacher requested medication increase!

My 6 yr old Aspie has been acting out in class lately, apparently. Received a "note" on his behavior calendar earlier this week, that "meds may need to be increased, they are not working!". (behavior calendar is for everyone in class) First, he has been tested and denied any services, because he is making straight a's and is reading 2 levels above 1st grade. He has NO IEP, NO 504, NO behavior plan, NO accommodations. The only thing he gets is Ritalin at school, provided and paid for by us, of course. The school has not been willing to give him any accommodations at this point. They denied an IEP, didn't offer to evaluate for a 504 because he was "doing so well". Now, he's having behavior issues both in the classroom, and at PE. The PE coach called me today at work, and put my son on the phone. When I asked him what was going on, his reply to me was "my meds need to be increased, they aren't working" (what he read that his

teacher had written on his behavior chart). I of course replied to him that he is still responsible for how he is acting, and that he had to listen to his teacher, whether he had medication or not. That wasn't an excuse. What would you guys suggest my next step should be? Interested in hearing what some of you would suggest.

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December 11, 2009

Holy cow. Find an advocate or maybe better, a lawyer, NOW.

Robin

From: Sandi <dcarters@...>Subject: ( ) teacher requested medication increase! Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 1:39 PM

My 6 yr old Aspie has been acting out in class lately, apparently. Received a "note" on his behavior calendar earlier this week, that "meds may need to be increased, they are not working!". (behavior calendar is for everyone in class) First, he has been tested and denied any services, because he is making straight a's and is reading 2 levels above 1st grade. He has NO IEP, NO 504, NO behavior plan, NO accommodations. The only thing he gets is Ritalin at school, provided and paid for by us, of course. The school has not been willing to give him any accommodations at this point. They denied an IEP, didn't offer to evaluate for a 504 because he was "doing so well". Now, he's having behavior issues both in the classroom, and at PE. The PE coach called me today at work, and put my son on the phone. When I asked him what was going on, his reply to me was "my meds need to be increased, they aren't working" (what he read that his teacher had written

on his behavior chart). I of course replied to him that he is still responsible for how he is acting, and that he had to listen to his teacher, whether he had medication or not. That wasn't an excuse. What would you guys suggest my next step should be? Interested in hearing what some of you would suggest.

December 11, 2009

The school staff can be helpful when it comes to pointing out the kids that are

different and need more help, but they are not qualified to practice medicine.

Too many teachers think that medicating a child is the answer. Kids like ours

are hard to figure out, even for us parents!

Please talk to your son's doctor about the school's request to increase the

medication. Maybe Ritalin isn't the right medication. Maybe the school needs to

make some changes, not your son.

I'm guessing that the problems he is having have to do with your son's Aspergers

and that things will only get worse if his needs aren't being met. If he is

wiggling around or stimming, then that is part of his disability and is

something that he absolutely needs to do and has no control of, not something

that requires him to be punished or so drugged that he just sits there. If he is

acting up in PE or refusing to participate it may be his way of getting out of

activity that is really difficult for him because he lacks coordination and

strength. Maybe he just honestly can't follow the verbal instructions and

doesn't have a clue about what he is supposed to do. Problems in PE could be a

sign that he needs OT services from the school.

I'd look into asking for an IEP meeting to discuss what has changed recently for

your son and how his disability is interfering with his ability to learn. Maybe

the situation has changed enough that the school will do a real evaluation and

put some services in place. And bring an advocate with you to the meeting!

December 11, 2009

I agree with . I also think it's horrible the teacher made him call you and

parrot that back...it had to make him feel terrible! I would be a bit outraged

over that.

TJ

>

> Can you tell his teacher to go... nah probably not a good idea. I would tell

the school that any medical decisions will be made between you, (maybe) your

son, and the medical professionals qualified to make such a decision, and then I

would demand an IEP.

>

> From: dcarters@...

> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:39:46 +0000

> Subject: ( ) teacher requested medication increase!

>

> My 6 yr old Aspie has been acting out in class lately, apparently. Received a

" note " on his behavior calendar earlier this week, that " meds may need to be

increased, they are not working! " . (behavior calendar is for everyone in class)

First, he has been tested and denied any services, because he is making straight

a's and is reading 2 levels above 1st grade. He has NO IEP, NO 504, NO behavior

plan, NO accommodations. The only thing he gets is Ritalin at school, provided

and paid for by us, of course.

>

> The school has not been willing to give him any accommodations at this point.

They denied an IEP, didn't offer to evaluate for a 504 because he was " doing so

well " . Now, he's having behavior issues both in the classroom, and at PE. The PE

coach called me today at work, and put my son on the phone. When I asked him

what was going on, his reply to me was " my meds need to be increased, they

aren't working " (what he read that his teacher had written on his behavior

chart). I of course replied to him that he is still responsible for how he is

acting, and that he had to listen to his teacher, whether he had medication or

not. That wasn't an excuse.

>

> What would you guys suggest my next step should be? Interested in hearing what

some of you would suggest.

>

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December 11, 2009

If the school recommends medical specific medical procedures, then they are responsible for paying for it, unless you have asked them to provide information for your doctor. They still cannot make tdcommendations for medical treatment, just report their observations about the child's behavior ib certain situations. Take the written statement from the teacher to the principal & tell them you expect the school system to pay for the recommended medical treatment. See what happens then! Sent from my iPhoneBlessings, DonnaOn Dec 11, 2009, at 5:09 PM, "juice011111" <juice00000@...> wrote:

I agree with . I also think it's horrible the teacher made him call you and parrot that back...it had to make him feel terrible! I would be a bit outraged over that.

TJ

>

> Can you tell his teacher to go... nah probably not a good idea. I would tell the school that any medical decisions will be made between you, (maybe) your son, and the medical professionals qualified to make such a decision, and then I would demand an IEP.

>

> From: dcarters@...

> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:39:46 +0000

> Subject: ( ) teacher requested medication increase!

>

> My 6 yr old Aspie has been acting out in class lately, apparently. Received a "note" on his behavior calendar earlier this week, that "meds may need to be increased, they are not working!". (behavior calendar is for everyone in class) First, he has been tested and denied any services, because he is making straight a's and is reading 2 levels above 1st grade. He has NO IEP, NO 504, NO behavior plan, NO accommodations. The only thing he gets is Ritalin at school, provided and paid for by us, of course.

>

> The school has not been willing to give him any accommodations at this point. They denied an IEP, didn't offer to evaluate for a 504 because he was "doing so well". Now, he's having behavior issues both in the classroom, and at PE. The PE coach called me today at work, and put my son on the phone. When I asked him what was going on, his reply to me was "my meds need to be increased, they aren't working" (what he read that his teacher had written on his behavior chart). I of course replied to him that he is still responsible for how he is acting, and that he had to listen to his teacher, whether he had medication or not. That wasn't an excuse.

>

> What would you guys suggest my next step should be? Interested in hearing what some of you would suggest.

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December 11, 2009

Couldn't this be considered a HIPPA violation?

December 11, 2009

Wow, don't you love it when teachers think they are doctors? Why would he need

medication at all if he doesn't need any IEP support, right? That is inexcusable

that she put that note on a calendar that everyone can see- peers and student's

parents. Definitely violated your son's privacy and that was unprofessional.

However, I don't think HIPPA applies here since they are not providing them

services. But I am sure it violates professional practice for

teachers/education. She may have only been being thoughtless, but I would

definitely point this out to her. Talk to the principal/school board about the

PE teacher also- s/he is not supposed to be " coaching " your son into asking for

more medication. Really inappropriate... and I would almost consider that

emotional abuse. Who do they think they are telling your son that he needs more

medication to be welcome at school (in essence)? That is a conversation between

adults, in private.

Good luck,

Dory

>

> My 6 yr old Aspie has been acting out in class lately, apparently. Received a

" note " on his behavior calendar earlier this week, that " meds may need to be

increased, they are not working! " . (behavior calendar is for everyone in class)

First, he has been tested and denied any services, because he is making straight

a's and is reading 2 levels above 1st grade. He has NO IEP, NO 504, NO behavior

plan, NO accommodations. The only thing he gets is Ritalin at school, provided

and paid for by us, of course.

>

> The school has not been willing to give him any accommodations at this point.

They denied an IEP, didn't offer to evaluate for a 504 because he was " doing so

well " . Now, he's having behavior issues both in the classroom, and at PE. The

PE coach called me today at work, and put my son on the phone. When I asked him

what was going on, his reply to me was " my meds need to be increased, they

aren't working " (what he read that his teacher had written on his behavior

chart). I of course replied to him that he is still responsible for how he is

acting, and that he had to listen to his teacher, whether he had medication or

not. That wasn't an excuse.

>

> What would you guys suggest my next step should be? Interested in hearing

what some of you would suggest.

>

December 11, 2009

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Oooh. Donna. I do like the way you think....

( ) teacher requested medication increase!> > > > > > My 6 yr old Aspie has been acting out in class lately, apparently. Received a "note" on his behavior calendar earlier this week, that "meds may need to be increased, they are not working!". (behavior calendar is for everyone in class) First, he has been tested and denied any services, because he is making straight a's and is reading 2 levels above 1st grade. He has NO IEP, NO 504, NO behavior plan, NO accommodations. The only thing he gets is Ritalin at school, provided and paid for by us, of course. > > The school has not been willing to give him any accommodations at this point. They denied an IEP, didn't offer to evaluate for a 504 because he was "doing so well". Now, he's having behavior issues both in the classroom, and at PE. The PE coach called me today at work, and put my son on the phone. When I asked him what was going on, his reply to me was "my meds need to be increased, they aren't working" (what he read that his teacher had written on his behavior chart). I of course replied to him that he is still responsible for how he is acting, and that he had to listen to his teacher, whether he had medication or not. That wasn't an excuse. > > What would you guys suggest my next step should be? Interested in hearing what some of you would suggest. > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> Windows Live Hotmail is faster and more secure than ever.> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?ocid=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_1:092009>

December 12, 2009

I had this happen once… albeit slightly different

circumstances. My son wasn’t on ANY medication yet – and I had to

fill out a permission slip for the school to release a sheet of questions from the

DR, TO the dr… they needed my consent. She sent the consent form home for

me to sign in ’s backpack. On it, she wrote “To give

permission for us to release information to Dr.Prince. The outcome of this

information may result in a medication trial to alleviate behavioural

difficulties.” Needless to say, I was LIVID. And this was the

resource/special needs teacher (HA! They SHOULD know better, but DON’T

99% of the time, in my experience.)

Anyway, I took a big sharpie marker, crossed off the 2nd

sentence, and then signed the form, and attached a sticky note saying “Educators

are not qualified to make recommendations regarding medication.” And sent

it back. Of course, before I did that, I scanned a copy of it for myself, and

stuck it in my file. I had a few other things in there to to take to the

superintendant, but it never went that far as we moved… and after the

note, she kind of avoided me LOL

DON’T put up with that. They aren’t allowed to do

that. Go to them about it first, then to the principal, and if you don’t

feel it’s resolved after that, then go to the superintendant. Then they

can’t argue that you didn’t follow the proper “flow of

contact”.

GOOD LUCK! Keep us posted J

=)

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Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:10 PM

Subject: ( ) teacher requested medication increase!

My 6 yr old Aspie has been acting out in class

lately, apparently. Received a " note " on his behavior calendar

earlier this week, that " meds may need to be increased, they are not

working! " . (behavior calendar is for everyone in class) First, he has been

tested and denied any services, because he is making straight a's and is

reading 2 levels above 1st grade. He has NO IEP, NO 504, NO behavior plan, NO

accommodations. The only thing he gets is Ritalin at school, provided and paid

for by us, of course.

The school has not been willing to give him any accommodations at this point.

They denied an IEP, didn't offer to evaluate for a 504 because he was

" doing so well " . Now, he's having behavior issues both in the

classroom, and at PE. The PE coach called me today at work, and put my son on

the phone. When I asked him what was going on, his reply to me was " my

meds need to be increased, they aren't working " (what he read that his

teacher had written on his behavior chart). I of course replied to him that he

is still responsible for how he is acting, and that he had to listen to his

teacher, whether he had medication or not. That wasn't an excuse.

What would you guys suggest my next step should be? Interested in hearing what

some of you would suggest.

December 12, 2009

I think they're violating some sort of privacy laws with this as well since they

put it on a calendar that everyone can see.

Miriam