Re: Parenthood

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My thoughts are the same as yours. To bad it's not on earlier. I'm hoping the teachers watch it and maybe the schools will get it. that was like another reality check for me as well. Makes me want to fight even harder for services for my son! first time I saw the show and not the last.

Rose

From: kelliangelini <kelliangelini@...> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:49:29 AMSubject: ( ) Parenthood

So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to watch.Thoughts?

[Guest guest]

I loved all the different parts of the show. As for the AS part,,,,,,,,it was good. Crushed me how the grampa was very "normal" in his views of "just toughen him up". But,,,,,,,in the end,,,he gets over it fast. Really "understands" quickly when his son tells him that "something is wrong" with his son. I'm watching again, for sure.

Yep,,,,,tears were rolling when the wife told the hubby about the dx. Rolled again at the end when the dad just accepts that his son CAN'T go inside. Plain and simple. I understand it's a show....but I wish we (hubby and I) would have "realized" these things about our son as quickly as they did....he he.............instead of fighting so much. Ugh.

It really is simple. Just treat others kindly and with respect.

Robin

From: kelliangelini <kelliangelini@...>Subject: ( ) Parenthood Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 6:49 AM

So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to watch.Thoughts?

[Guest guest]

I would be surprised if grandpa jumps on board that quickly.. I wouldn't be

surprised if it takes some time and he was reacting at that moment to his son's

tears more than anything else....

There's definitely some leaps on this show and some things to ignore -- like

how could he get to age 8 w/o any services at all or is this really the first

time they had to take him out of an event?

My son was just diagnosed at 8 and I have a big loud family too and there are

many instances where my son had to get away from it all ... particularly

holidays, birthdays -- even his own.

I am looking forward to seeing what comes next for them ...

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> I loved all the different parts of the show. 

> As for the AS part,,,,,,,,it was good.  Crushed me how the grampa was very

" normal " in his views of " just toughen him up " .  But,,,,,,,in the end,,,he gets

over it fast.  Really " understands " quickly when his son tells him that

" something is wrong " with his son.

> I'm watching again, for sure.

> Yep,,,,,tears were rolling when the wife told the hubby about the dx.  Rolled

again at the end when the dad just accepts that his son CAN'T go inside.  Plain

and simple. 

>

> I understand it's a show....but I wish we (hubby and I) would have " realized "

these things about our son as quickly as they did....he he.............instead

of fighting so much.  Ugh.

>

> It really is simple.  Just treat others kindly and with respect.

> Robin

[Guest guest]

I was only able to catch the last 20 minutes but what I saw, I liked. I did think to myself, when watching the boy jump in the water puddle continuously, that my son would've NEVER done anything like that b/c he doesn't like to get messy at all. I think it's all related to sensory sensitivities. But I appreciated that he was repeating a behavior over and over again. My son is also more chatty than the character, but when I saw the little boy running, I thought "that's my boy!"

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:36:31 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Parenthood

I loved all the different parts of the show. As for the AS part,,,,,,,, it was good. Crushed me how the grampa was very "normal" in his views of "just toughen him up". But,,,,,,,in the end,,,he gets over it fast. Really "understands" quickly when his son tells him that "something is wrong" with his son. I'm watching again, for sure.

Yep,,,,,tears were rolling when the wife told the hubby about the dx. Rolled again at the end when the dad just accepts that his son CAN'T go inside. Plain and simple. I understand it's a show....but I wish we (hubby and I) would have "realized" these things about our son as quickly as they did....he he.......... ...instead of fighting so much. Ugh.

It really is simple. Just treat others kindly and with respect.

Robin

From: kelliangelini <kelliangelini>Subject: ( ) Parenthood Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 6:49 AM

So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to watch.Thoughts?

[Guest guest]

As soon as I saw him cutting the paper I thought " that's my boy " then the

legos....I watched last night and enjoyed that they wee having an Aspie

character, I did not know it going in so it was a surprise.

I have to admit, while reading the posts about the show this morning I cried...I

can be such a wuss!

Bobbie in NJ

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> >Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 6:49 AM

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> >So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes

this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start

to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to

watch.

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> >Thoughts?

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[Guest guest]

It was a good premier, but I must admit I didn't like some of the language. "Suffering", "somethings wrong with him", etc. I get that this is the inital response at that those are probably generally like that, but I hope that people don't just watch that episode and have that be their only opinion. I have to wonder if it will delve into other issues that we see on this site, cures, neurodiversity, special education, etc.

From: kelliangelini@...Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:49:29 +0000Subject: ( ) Parenthood

So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to watch.Thoughts?

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I liked the show and I will watch again. I hope they show the conflict that we have as parents of a special child. When the boy was in the classroom fighting and biting I thought, I am glad those days are over. My son did that many times and got spelled from at least 4 daycares by the time he was 3 yrs. Of course, in the show they are a big family and hopefully will be there for each other, but in real life most of the time we are alone in our daily fight and struggles.

Ide

From: kelliangelini <kelliangelini@...> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 6:49:29 AMSubject: ( ) Parenthood

So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to watch.Thoughts?

[Guest guest]

I hope this show helps spread awareness as well, and will definately watch it

weekly. I thought it was good, and saw a little bit of my little one in Max's

character as well. I just wish that I had the extended family support as the

characters do in this show...how much easier it would be!

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> So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes

this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start

to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to

watch.

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> Thoughts?

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[Guest guest]

It sounds good...when is it on??

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> > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head

realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch

and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for

me to watch.

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> > Thoughts?

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[Guest guest]

I agree that I didn't like how in parenthood they said there is something wrong with him (the aspie child), but as far as the suffering goes, I do think our aspie children do suffer within themselves. It may not always show with them, but I think to a point they are suffering.

From: G <fnofsports@...>Subject: RE: ( ) ParenthoodAspergers Treatment Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:54 PM

It was a good premier, but I must admit I didn't like some of the language. "Suffering", "somethings wrong with him", etc. I get that this is the inital response at that those are probably generally like that, but I hope that people don't just watch that episode and have that be their only opinion. I have to wonder if it will delve into other issues that we see on this site, cures, neurodiversity, special education, etc.

From: kelliangeliniDate: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:49:29 +0000Subject: ( ) Parenthood

So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to watch.Thoughts?

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I have a quick question. My daughter has aspergers, adhd,odd and mild bipolar and she just started her period. I've heard that sometimes starting the cycle makes their problems worse. Does anyone know anything about this?Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: sharon mitchell <smitch458@...>Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:42:40 -0800 (PST)< >Subject: RE: ( ) Parenthood I agree that I didn't like how in parenthood they said there is something wrong with him (the aspie child), but as far as the suffering goes, I do think our aspie children do suffer within themselves. It may not always show with them, but I think to a point they are suffering.From: G <fnofsportshotmail>Subject: RE: ( ) ParenthoodAspergers Treatment Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:54 PM It was a good premier, but I must admit I didn't like some of the language. "Suffering", "somethings wrong with him", etc. I get that this is the inital response at that those are probably generally like that, but I hope that people don't just watch that episode and have that be their only opinion. I have to wonder if it will delve into other issues that we see on this site, cures, neurodiversity, special education, etc. From: kelliangeliniDate: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:49:29 +0000Subject: ( ) Parenthood So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to watch.Thoughts?Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.

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There is something wrong with our children if they have Aspergers, though. It's a neurological problem. That doesn't make these kids any less valuable. Something is wrong with my vision b/c I have to wear contacts or glasses or I can't see past 6 inches in front of my face. Doesn't make me defective, just describes there is something amiss. It's okay to admit that, in either situation.

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: sharon mitchell <smitch458@...> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 10:42:40 PMSubject: RE: ( ) Parenthood

I agree that I didn't like how in parenthood they said there is something wrong with him (the aspie child), but as far as the suffering goes, I do think our aspie children do suffer within themselves. It may not always show with them, but I think to a point they are suffering.

From: G <fnofsportshotmail (DOT) com>Subject: RE: ( ) ParenthoodAspergers TreatmentDate: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:54 PM

It was a good premier, but I must admit I didn't like some of the language. "Suffering", "somethings wrong with him", etc. I get that this is the inital response at that those are probably generally like that, but I hope that people don't just watch that episode and have that be their only opinion. I have to wonder if it will delve into other issues that we see on this site, cures, neurodiversity, special education, etc.

From: kelliangeliniDate: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:49:29 +0000Subject: ( ) Parenthood

So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to watch.Thoughts?

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I totally agree, .

It really is simple. Just treat others kindly and with respect.

Robin>>> From: G <fnofsports@ hotmail. com>> Subject: RE: ( ) Parenthood> Aspergers Treatment> Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:54 PM>>>>> It was a good premier, but I must admit I didn't like some of the language.> "Suffering", "somethings wrong with him", etc. I get that this> is the inital response at that those are probably generally like that, but I> hope that people don't just watch that episode and have that be their only> opinion. I have to wonder if it will delve into other issues that we see on> this site, cures, neurodiversit y, special education, etc.>>>> > From: kelliangelini@

> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:49:29 +0000> Subject: ( ) Parenthood>>>>> So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head> realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will> watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit> heartbreaking for me to watch.>> Thoughts?>>>>>>> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.>>>>>>>>>-- Sent from my mobile device-mommy to Emma, Becca, , and Girl Scout cookies are coming!

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LOL you are aware that Einstein was most likely somewhere on the spectrum (almost all evidence out there points to that conclusion) and that if you gave him the "cure" you might kill physics as we know them today (no autism, no preservating, no being able to come to these amazing conclusions that changed our world). Food for thought.

From: MadIdeas@...Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:03:30 -0500Subject: Re: ( ) Parenthood

If Einstein had a problem that needed a cure, then yes, I would definitely give him a cure if I had the means to do so.

Roxanna"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

( ) Parenthood> >> >> >> >> > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head> > realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will> > watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit> > heartbreaking for me to watch.> >> > Thoughts?> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.> >> >> >> >> >> > > > __________________________________________________________> > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.> > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/> > -- > Sent from my mobile device> > -mommy to Emma, Becca, ,> and > > Girl Scout cookies are coming!>

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Okay lets put it another way. Studies are showing now that because their are so many female teachers in certain academic fields from a young age (when did your son have his first male subject teacher, his second, for me it was in middle school, and even then they were a large minority), boys are not getting taught in a way they can learn. The teachers having been taught best in a way that girls easily understand choose to teach that way. Because of this boys tend to fall behind at a much higher rate then girls, just like aspie kids. Is there something wrong with being a boy? Should we cure "boyness" and make boys more like girls.... I don't think so. Likewise once you get to higher education the boys that tended to stay on pace earlier generally tend to move ahead of girls at this point as most professors are men teaching how they learn best.

I think its much the same thing for aspies. While you might get other issues if you tried putting 20 aspies in a classroom together (though I seriously doubt it would harm them that much) they would probably learn quite well, as the teacher would be teaching in a way they understood. While we in this society would consider this special education, it really wouldn't be different then single sex education thats being tried in many school districts in America to help teach boys better. Now with this being said, aspies do need HELP to live and work in this society, but I see that as being different then a cure. A cure would kill them of the ability to preservate, the ability to see the big picture, etc. Might also kill a bit of their personality that you seem to love. Thats why I have a problem with the word cure.

From: MadIdeas@...Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:04:46 -0500Subject: Re: ( ) Parenthood

If NT's learned differently in your scenario, then yes, they would need sped services. Having a LD means there is something going wrong in one or more of the typical processes of learning. You don't get sped because you are a bit quirky or you "think differently." As for "fix", I did not say "fix" in my post. I would not advocate for anyone by saying "they need to be fixed." I am not sure where you connected my post to that. As for who will hire people who need to be "fixed" (your choice of term), this is why there are job coordinators who may or may not do a good job at finding employment for people with disabilities. Look around you - people with disabilities work in a variety of jobs and within all communities according to their abilities and the job market. I do believe I can advocate for my kids (hfa) without trying to pretend that they don't have a disability that affects their ability to learn and socialize. I find it better to accept the differences and work with them, not against them. You can't have it both ways where you get special help but it's not because you have a problem.

Roxanna"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

( ) Parenthood> > > > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to watch.> > Thoughts?> > > > > > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.>

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But if start curing everyone with asperger's then wouldn't we cure him? But sure not everyone is up to that level, but I still think our ability to do great things and our ability to study something most others would consider boring for hours on end is part of what makes us great. Get rid of that, then we are just... normal... how greatly boring.

P.S. As for him having it, speech delay, trouble in school, employed for a large part of his life under his skills, was often described as being socially isolated and a bit weird... sounds like textbook HFA to me

From: smacalli@...Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:35:29 -0800Subject: Re: ( ) Parenthood

I'm going out on a limb here to say that the majority of people with Aspergers (and the majority of the NT population, too) aren't Einsteins. You might be giving his Aspergers (if he truly had it) more credit than it deserves.

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: fnofsports <fnofsportshotmail> Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 4:13:27 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Parenthood

Would you have "cured" Einstein? Just saying.> >> >> > From: G <fnofsports@ hotmail. com>> > Subject: RE: ( ) Parenthood> > Aspergers Treatment> > Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:54 PM> >> >> >> >> > It was a good premier, but I must admit I didn't like some of the language.> > "Suffering", "somethings wrong with him", etc. I get that this is the> > inital response at that those are probably generally like that, but I hope> > that people don't just watch that episode and have that be their only> > opinion. I have to wonder if it will delve into other issues that we see on> > this site, cures, neurodiversity, special education, etc.> >> >> >> > > > From: kelliangelini> > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:49:29 +0000> > Subject: ( ) Parenthood> >> >> >> >> > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head> > realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will> > watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit> > heartbreaking for me to watch.> >> > Thoughts?> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.> > http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 201469230/ direct/01/> > -- > Sent from my mobile device> > -mommy to Emma, Becca, ,> and > > Girl Scout cookies are coming!>

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You would not wish the private life of Einstein on anyone!!!!! He was brilliant at maths but struggled with his relationships with people, particularly the women in his life.

I don't know anyone with social skills issues who would not leap at the chance to "fix" this area of their makeup. It doesn't make the rest of their makeup "wrong". Most people would chose to improve a personal weakness that they have - physical or psychological or neurological. I would snap your hand off not to have to wear the thick glasses I have had to wear all my life yet at the present time they are a defining part of my physical appearance I have to live with every waking moment of my life.

At 4 my dd was moaning that she wished she could "play like other children" and at 8 she wishes "that people could understand her". I think she would change those parts without a second thought. Doesn't mean the whole of her is "broken" or that all of her is "wrong". But it does mean there is a pane of glass between her and the rest of us sometimes that both she and I would smash to pieces if we could. Smash my glasses, smash the metaphoric pane of glass - what at the end of the day is the difference???

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If Einstein had a problem that needed a cure, then yes, I would definitely give him a cure if I had the means to do so.

Roxanna"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

( ) Parenthood> >> >> >> >> > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head> > realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will> > watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit> > heartbreaking for me to watch.> >> > Thoughts?> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.> >> >> >> >> >> > > > __________________________________________________________> > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.> > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/> > -- > Sent from my mobile device> > -mommy to Emma, Becca, ,> and > > Girl Scout cookies are coming!>

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I agree! and thought the same thing but thought they did it like that to get to the POINT really

fast. Now making that point it would be nice if they stretched that out - like in a real life situation. maybe the family getting together having 2nd thoughts, another opinion from another dr. Maybe the grandfather having reasons/excusses for why his grandson is acting that way. (it's not aspergers, he's having a bad day because of the way the baseball game went)

Rose

From: bucaroobonzai2003 <ssernaker@...> Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 10:21:30 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Parenthood

I would have found the show more realistic if the identification stuff didn't go so smoothly. The school notices something is wrong, talks to the parents, kid gets properly diagnosed in a short time span, dad accepts it within a few minutes, and even grandpa understood when dad told him something was wrong with his grandson while the daughter sings perfectly at the school. Wish my world worked like that. Also, it would have been nice if they didn't all look like models.However, it was a good portrayal of a child with Asperger's, and hopefully the show becomes a big hit because most people just have no clue about what Asperger's is. Perhaps with enough education, people on the street wont just assume that the problem is that the parents are soft on discipline.

[Guest guest]

There is no shame in recognizing any mental health issue and seeking help for

that issue. there is shame in how we fling certain words around with disregard

for for the human being we are speaking about. for example, if you tell a

neighborhood friend that there is something " wrong " with your child and they in

turn tell their NT children those same words, you've just created a another

hellish obstacle for your child in forming relationships. to me, " wrong with "

implies no hope of change and is stigmatizing. and it is obvious to me that

there is a huge difference between choosing the word " retard " and choosing

" retarded " to describe someone. the second can be appropriate. the first is

abusive. to me choosing non-abusive words is not about being PC. geo

- ( ) Parenthood

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>So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes

this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start

to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to

watch.

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>Thoughts?

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If that's what he wanted, it wouldn't change his genius

On 3/4/10, fnofsports <fnofsports@...> wrote:

> Would you have " cured " Einstein? Just saying.

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>> > From: G <fnofsportshotmail (DOT) com>

>> > Subject: RE: ( ) Parenthood

>> > Aspergers Treatment

>> > Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:54 PM

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>> > It was a good premier, but I must admit I didn't like some of the

>> > language.

>> > " Suffering " , " somethings wrong with him " , etc. I get that this is the

>> > inital response at that those are probably generally like that, but I

>> > hope

>> > that people don't just watch that episode and have that be their only

>> > opinion. I have to wonder if it will delve into other issues that we

>> > see on

>> > this site, cures, neurodiversity, special education, etc.

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>> > From: kelliangelini

>> > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:49:29 +0000

>> > Subject: ( ) Parenthood

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>> > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head

>> > realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will

>> > watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit

>> > heartbreaking for me to watch.

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>> > Thoughts?

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The producers of the show has stressed that the show- named " Parenthood " is

about parenthood. It's not about aspergers or doctors or anything like that...

I'm looking forward to seeing how the parents - parent their aspergers child.

It's a TV show, and a drama at that, so I wouldn't expect the intricacies to be

dealt with in terms of reality.. I " m sure for the bulk of the public going into

detail about getting a diagnosis would be boring...

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>    ,

>    I agree!  and thought the same thing but thought they did it like that

to get to the POINT really

>    fast.  Now making that point it would be nice if they stretched that out

- like in a real life situation.  maybe the family getting

together having 2nd thoughts, another opinion from another dr.  Maybe the

grandfather having reasons/excusses for why his grandson is acting that way. 

(it's not aspergers, he's having a bad day because of the way the baseball game

went)  

> Rose

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Wow, Rose. That last part you wrote - Bingo!

I didn't have a single "moment", but I can look back now and see sooo many instances. Almost like pages in a book. Ian's signs just built up over the years. (He's 13 now, dx'd at 7). We didn't deny any dx's....because there weren't any. But,,,,,,we walked on eggshells, in a way. Piti-patted around our lives and made excuses and man,,,,,it was such a rocky time. I remember that we were always talking to ourselves (my hubby and I) about the amazing things Ian did, and with the "odder" things, we just kind of justified why he did them and at times, blamed family members for their inability to accept differences. Yikes, we were a mess.

Anyway, I'm amazed at how many times I've looked at my son over the years and cried as if seeing him do these "warning signs" for the first time! Ugh.

It actually happened the other day. He is back in school after 2 years at home with a virtual school. Even made honor roll. He smiles and is actually liking being there,,,,,,,he's been through a major-bad time of OCD, meds change, just some bad times. Emotionally, he's good now......and I couldn't be happier for him.

But, at his conference his teachers were giving me his grades and then when we hit the social part, I felt like my breath was taken away. Hearing, again, that he did things with no regard for groups and always chose to do things alone......that he didn't like to back down when he thought he could do his math a "better" way,,,,,,,got really riled up and excited when they did "verbal" re-enactments in social studies. It just made me see that things ARE wrong with him........still.......and that we gotta keep working on it.

Now,,,,,,I sure would never say it to him like that,,,,but he knows what he's "got" and that because of "that", he's gonna have to work at many things for the rest of his life.

Don't know where I was going with this......sorry. I ramble. But, I agree with you........and I guess, bottom line, I wasn't offended with the guy saying that something was wrong with his son.....I felt his sadness...........and I still do from time to time.

It really is simple. Just treat others kindly and with respect.

Robin

From: Rose <beachbodytan2002@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Parenthood Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 4:59 AM

Roxanna,

That is so hard speaking with people that are in denial with their children's differences. (I'm saying this from an experience with people I know) Some people have so many crutches for their children's differences to cover it up that I am amazed how good the parents get at it. I wonder what will happen - to the parents - when they run out of those crutches. the child too... but these are such well educated people that I wonder if they know - but are trying to hide their child's difference from others. but why? Some of these parents work harder to hide their child's disability than I work on helping mine and getting my child the supports he needs. these are the parents the become defensive and loud if you even give a hint of a concern about their child. some even become aggressive.. ..so you leave it alone and they believe they proved a point. that nothing is wrong with

their child - it's you!

anyway - I remember when my son was 5 months old. I remember it like it was today.....he is now 12. I sat him on the floor with one of those U-shaped nursing pillows for support to help him stay sitting up. He was watching TV. I was sitting behind him in a chair watching him watch TV when I saw him raise both arms, elbows bent, and he started flapping his hands. OMG! I thought - something is wrong!

I also agree, I think lots of parents had that moment when they saw something and said - somethings wrong...when trying to sort it all out...and watching for more signs.

Rose

From: Roxanna <MadIdeasaol (DOT) com> Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 10:04:46 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Parenthood

If NT's learned differently in your scenario, then yes, they would need sped services. Having a LD means there is something going wrong in one or more of the typical processes of learning. You don't get sped because you are a bit quirky or you "think differently. " As for "fix", I did not say "fix" in my post. I would not advocate for anyone by saying "they need to be fixed." I am not sure where you connected my post to that. As for who will hire people who need to be "fixed" (your choice of term), this is why there are job coordinators who may or may not do a good job at finding employment for people with disabilities. Look around you - people with disabilities work in a variety of jobs and within all communities according to their abilities and the job market. I do believe I can advocate for my kids (hfa) without trying to pretend

that they don't have a disability that affects their ability to learn and socialize. I find it better to accept the differences and work with them, not against them. You can't have it both ways where you get special help but it's not because you have a problem.

Roxanna"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

( ) Parenthood> > > > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to watch.> > Thoughts?> > >

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lol, ain't Hollywood's version so much better? <G>

Roxanna

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I would have found the show more realistic if the identification stuff didn't go so smoothly. The school notices something is wrong, talks to the parents, kid gets properly diagnosed in a short time span, dad accepts it within a few minutes, and even grandpa understood when dad told him something was wrong with his grandson while the daughter sings perfectly at the school. Wish my world worked like that. Also, it would have been nice if they didn't all look like models.

However, it was a good portrayal of a child with Asperger's, and hopefully the show becomes a big hit because most people just have no clue about what Asperger's is. Perhaps with enough education, people on the street wont just assume that the problem is that the parents are soft on discipline.

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I saw someone once write, "They all can't be Temple's" lol. I so got that at the time.

Roxanna

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I should not reply because I did not watch the show. But it might have been really interesting to have a season or two where the child struggled with problems and they had to deal with those without knowing what to do. Then they could finally find the dx and you would understand their relief at finding answers. Shoot! If only we could write the show! lol.

Roxanna

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

Re: ( ) Parenthood

I would have found the show more realistic if the identification stuff didn't go so smoothly. The school notices something is wrong, talks to the parents, kid gets properly diagnosed in a short time span, dad accepts it within a few minutes, and even grandpa understood when dad told him something was wrong with his grandson while the daughter sings perfectly at the school. Wish my world worked like that. Also, it would have been nice if they didn't all look like models.

However, it was a good portrayal of a child with Asperger's, and hopefully the show becomes a big hit because most people just have no clue about what Asperger's is. Perhaps with enough education, people on the street wont just assume that the problem is that the parents are soft on discipline.