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hi christine,

my name is jacki and i am the owner of vaccineinjuriesonelist .

my third child also sees an osteopath and i wonder if you could share with

me why and how you decided on this form of treatment. respond when you can.

thanks, jacki

Roseola

>From: Proulx/ Reid <cpar@...>

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>Hi (Rocky's mom). Sorry this is so late at replying - I'm a bit

>behind in reading messages. My daughter (age 4) and my son age (1 1/2)

both

>see an Osteopath for asthma and kidney disease. He is always saying how

good

>a fever and a rash are. He says that both symptoms are our body's way of

>clearing out toxins. And sure enough after every fever and rash both

>children have made improvements in their problems. I now look at fevers

and

>rashes differently. I actually am happy to see them!

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In a message dated 9/4/99 10:21:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

helminger@... writes:

> It's funny that you ask this, my son has roseola right now! I actually

> asked his ped about the getting it twice thing and she said no, you only

> get it once. I was asking because my sister is 3 mos preg. and was

> worried about her catching it and running a fever.

> shelby

>

Adults usually don't get it so i don't think she should worry.

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In a message dated 9/4/99 12:20:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

lucasjt@... writes:

> I love all this health discussion we've been having. Since most of us do

> not vaccinate, it's nice to hear info on supporting the immune system.

>

> QUESTION..... Can a person get roseola more than once? My daughter has

had

> a similar type event (high fever for a few days and then the rash like sand

> paper on the chest and neck) at least 2 times. I was afraid she had it

again,

> but there was no fever, just a rash (I think it might just be prickly heat

> because we've had a hot spell)

>

>

I think like most viruses, it confers lifetime immunity.

Cory

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It's funny that you ask this, my son has roseola right now! I actually

asked his ped about the getting it twice thing and she said no, you only

get it once. I was asking because my sister is 3 mos preg. and was

worried about her catching it and running a fever.

shelby

Troy Lucas wrote:

> I love all this health discussion we've been having. Since most of

> us do not vaccinate, it's nice to hear info on supporting the immune

> system. QUESTION..... Can a person get roseola more than once? My

> daughter has had a similar type event (high fever for a few days and

> then the rash like sand paper on the chest and neck) at least 2

> times. I was afraid she had it again, but there was no fever, just a

> rash (I think it might just be prickly heat because we've had a hot

> spell)

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I've never asked a doctor, BUT if it's connected to the herpes virus,

people have herpes outbreaks more than once, so maybe babies can have

these more than once too? (I've never heard of adults getting them)

Also, the shingles virus is an off shoot of the chicken pox and you can

also get these more than once.

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Hello,

My oldest was diagnosed twice as having roseola. I was told the first

time that it was a one time only kind of thing, I think it is like chicken

pox you're only supposed to catch it once but some people catch it twice.

-Staisha

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In a message dated 9/4/99 12:40:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

austinsmom@... writes:

> 've never asked a doctor, BUT if it's connected to the herpes virus,

> people have herpes outbreaks more than once, so maybe babies can have

> these more than once too? (I've never heard of adults getting them)

> Also, the shingles virus is an off shoot of the chicken pox and you can

> also get these more than once.

>

It is a Herpes virus, but not the same sexually transmitted one that causes

the cold sores. As far as I know, adults don't exhibit the same symptoms of

Roseola as babies, although they most likely are exposed to it. As far as

Shingles outbreaks, it is not that the personn is getting it more than once,

but rather that the same virus remains dormant in the body for a time and

then re-emerges later. Viruses are different than bacteria in that they stay

with you forever. They are not " killed " because they are not really alive in

the first place.

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In a message dated 9/4/99 12:41:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

austinsmom@... writes:

> Forgot to mention, I do think prickly heat and roseola are suppose to

> LOOK alot alike but with no fever in prickly heat.

>

Also, the rash with Roseola doesn't appear until after the fever breaks (3 or

4 days). Only then do you definetly know it was Roseola.

Cory

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In a message dated 9/5/99 1:15:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

flescher@... writes:

> Hello,

> My oldest was diagnosed twice as having roseola. I was told the first

> time that it was a one time only kind of thing, I think it is like chicken

> pox you're only supposed to catch it once but some people catch it twice.

> -Staisha

>

It could have been a misdiagnosis on one or both occasions. Did he/she run

very high fevers for 3 or 4 days, followed by the spotted rash? Many viruses

can have similiar symptoms and could be mistaken for roseola.

Cory

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In a message dated 9/5/99 11:47:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

austinsmom@... writes:

> For clarification, though, Herpes simplex 1 which causes cold sores on

> the lips and is transmitted through kissing, is different from Herpes

> simple 2 - the genital kind which is transmitted sexually. (Simplex 1

> runs in my family (we kiss alot :-)) - I've gotten cold sores since I

> was a teenager)

>

>

>

I think that roseola is caused by herpes 6. It has also been implicated by

some reports as being associated with chronic fatigue syndrome and some other

problems.

Cory

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Cory,

Both times he ran high fevers I'm not sure what degree 102 to 103+ then

broke out in a rash all over his body that blanched when pressed. The rash

didn't last more than a few hours. However if he was misdiagnosed I would

not be suprised, my confidence in the medical profession is not extremely

high.

-Staisha

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That's true about the viruses - I didn't know that the shingles virus,

like the herpes, lies dormant behind the spinal cord and that's why they

can't find a cure.

For clarification, though, Herpes simplex 1 which causes cold sores on

the lips and is transmitted through kissing, is different from Herpes

simple 2 - the genital kind which is transmitted sexually. (Simplex 1

runs in my family (we kiss alot :-)) - I've gotten cold sores since I

was a teenager)

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In a message dated 9-4-1999 9:25:52 PM Central Daylight Time, Cmermer@...

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<<

It is a Herpes virus, but not the same sexually transmitted one that causes

the cold sores. >>

There are two herpes viruses (that I know of) and, the simplex one is the

one with cold sores.. that's NOT sexually transmitted.

simplex two is the genital herpes...sexually transmitted.

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With Trentons rash on his face - I have not noticed a fever, but its not like we

take his temp every day! I could have missed it, if it did not last very long.

I am going to try take a photo tonight with my digital camera, and perhaps

someone on the list will look at it and tell me what you think.

I appreciate all your help!!

Chelly

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The Roseola rash only appears when the fever breaks, so if a child has a

rash and a fever it is most likely something else.

Cory

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> I opted not to have our 5th child receive the Vit K shot and she was our

> first child to not have an ounce of Jaundace. It was wonderful. I never

> heard about not cutting the cord until later. I'll have to do some more

> research on that on.

>

> I've always had hospital births and I wonder why the doctors are so

clueless

> on so many things when a simpleton like myself can figure these things out

> with minor research. Why do most doctors not even consider doing things

> against the way they were taught or at least do some research on their

own?

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At 03:35 PM 08/25/2001 EDT, you wrote:

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>

>Ok ladies a friends baby had the IPV shot and ran fever for 3 days and now

>has a rash all over face neck and tummy. SHe thinks maybe roseola? HMMM

>whatcha think?

Doesn't matter what the name of the rash is. Immune system affected by the

vaccine leading to this.

Just say no to vaccinations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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-My 9 month old had roseola about a month ago and It was 4 or

5 days of a very high fever (104.5- 105) and then the fever broke

and she got a rash all over her face, trunk and neck. So, sounds

similar.

-- In Vaccinations@y..., Chevy974@a... wrote:

>

> Ok ladies a friends baby had the IPV shot and ran fever for 3

days and now

> has a rash all over face neck and tummy. SHe thinks maybe

roseola? HMMM

> whatcha think?

> AMY

> MOMMY TO 4 KIDDIES

> Chelsea 9

> Carrigian 5

> 4

> Chaela 7 mo

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I just wanted to add that when I had the MMR vaccine in High School, I

developed a high fever and a rash afterwards, and it was diagnosed as

Scarlet Fever...So, I came down with scarlet fever from the MMR!!!

Ridiculous actually, cause I felt like I was gonna DIE and the rash itched

SO BADLY....I might as well of HAD the Measles, Mumps, or Rubella instead of

having what I had that was probably worse! AAGGHH!!! I cant stand the

THOUGHT that I have vaccinations inside my body! Especially now that I know

what IS inside my body now! At least my baby girl will be toxin-free.

I dont know if this could be a form of scarlet fever like I had from being

vaxed or not, but it sounds like what I had, but then again, I had a rash

everywhere and not just on the neck and tummy...It was actually called

" Scarletina " (sp?) which I was told is Scarlet Fever and is just another

name....Hope that was right. Well I dont see how you can get Roseola from

being vaxed with IPV, unless it is just coincidental that the baby got

Roseola around the time of vaccination? It DOES sound like Roseola too, and

MY friend's baby had that about 9 months old, but he hadnt been vaxed cause

I told her all about vaccines and she stopped!! Can you believe that?

Someone that I know actually listened to me, instead of looking at me like I

am nuts!

Good luck and hope the baby gets better soon!

Ronda* from FL :o)

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Information " MSN Community

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*momma (and shrimp boat owner) to unfortunately vaxed, 6 yr. old Darren

Austin and momma to UNVAXED, STILL

BREASTFED, 15 mo. old Zayna Blair

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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 00:44:34 -0000

From: jbonovich@...

Subject: Re: Roseola

-My 9 month old had roseola about a month ago and It was 4 or

5 days of a very high fever (104.5- 105) and then the fever broke

and she got a rash all over her face, trunk and neck. So, sounds

similar.

-- In Vaccinations@y..., Chevy974@a... wrote:

>

> Ok ladies a friends baby had the IPV shot and ran fever for 3

days and now

> has a rash all over face neck and tummy. SHe thinks maybe

roseola? HMMM

> whatcha think?

> AMY

> MOMMY TO 4 KIDDIES

> Chelsea 9

> Carrigian 5

> 4

> Chaela 7 mo

> <A

HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/chevy974/myhomepagebaby.ht

ml " >the hasktt bunch</A>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 12/10/01 12:13:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,

radiantmother@... writes:

> I am not familiar with Roseola but know of two fully vaccinated babies who

Hi Kim,

My vaccinated 10 year old had Roseola at 16 months old and my 13 month

unvaccinated baby girl just had it a few weeks ago. Roseola is from the

Herpes virus, I believe and starts with a high fever for 3-4 days and then on

the 3rd or 4th day a rash breaks out over the body, but mainly the head,

trunk and arms. It is primarily a virus that is from 3 months of age to 3

years of age.

Hope this helps!

K

~Kerin~

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In a message dated 12/10/01 7:13:08 PM GTB Standard Time,

radiantmother@... writes:

<<

I am not familiar with roseola but know of two fully vaccinated babies who

have had it.

any info would be great. >>

roseola is not a viral diseas that is vaccianted for....yet.

Most children have had the disease by age 5,and most have it btw.

6mo-3yo.High fever ,then once it breaks a rash develops. Rarely there are

complications such as encephalitis,and yes death.I have little doubt they

will create a vaccine for it in the near future.

Sara

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thansk for the tip anita, good for your mom. what a great mum.

kim

In a message dated 12/11/2001 9:22:37 AM Central Standard Time,

anita.wong@... writes:

> My mother knew what it was right away-naturally. Apparently my

> brother had it 3 times; he is now in his late 40's. She said to take

> a bunch of cilantro and steep it in a pot of water. Use only that

> water to bathe him (no soap)-next day no more rash. He smelled nice

> and fresh-like he was a little vegetable just brought in from the

> garden!

>

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My son just had it a week ago. Started with a mild fever with a

lowered appetite(he's a light eater already!). I thought he was

teething. After the fever subsided-the rash began. Started on his

back right by the top of his diaper so I though the diaper was

irritating him. The next day he developed a full blown rash all over

his little torso. Didn't bother him in the least. Spoke with his

ped, and she said it was very common, most kids develop it and not to

worry since it was very mild. It will go away in 5 - 7 days. She

didn't recomend anything special to do or any medications.

My mother knew what it was right away-naturally. Apparently my

brother had it 3 times; he is now in his late 40's. She said to take

a bunch of cilantro and steep it in a pot of water. Use only that

water to bathe him (no soap)-next day no more rash. He smelled nice

and fresh-like he was a little vegetable just brought in from the

garden!

BTY, my father was an Herbalist. We grew up on natural remedies and

never took any Western medication until we were adults.

> In a message dated 12/10/01 7:13:08 PM GTB Standard Time,

> radiantmother@a... writes:

>

> <<

> I am not familiar with roseola but know of two fully vaccinated

babies who

> have had it.

> any info would be great. >>

> roseola is not a viral diseas that is vaccianted for....yet.

> Most children have had the disease by age 5,and most have it btw.

> 6mo-3yo.High fever ,then once it breaks a rash develops. Rarely

there are

> complications such as encephalitis,and yes death.I have little

doubt they

> will create a vaccine for it in the near future.

>

> Sara

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Any time. I just love this group-so many things to learn it's

amazing!

> thansk for the tip anita, good for your mom. what a great mum.

> kim

>

>

> In a message dated 12/11/2001 9:22:37 AM Central Standard Time,

> anita.wong@b... writes:

>

>

> > My mother knew what it was right away-naturally. Apparently my

> > brother had it 3 times; he is now in his late 40's. She said to

take

> > a bunch of cilantro and steep it in a pot of water. Use only

that

> > water to bathe him (no soap)-next day no more rash. He smelled

nice

> > and fresh-like he was a little vegetable just brought in from the

> > garden!

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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