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For me I really like this idea, reason being that my dd is right there.  There are small quirks that many aspies have that even a hfa doesnt necesarily have so those quirks of hers make the knowledgable immediately think aspie but she is dx hfa.  she is dx hfa b/c of a speech delay.  however her speech delay was only in articulation, it was apparante as soon as she started talking and never got better on its own as she omitted sounds not substituted so she had it from 18 mo until she graduated from speech at nearly 6.  yet some specialists would consider an articulation delay a speech delay and catagorize her hfa others though wouldnt, especially b/c she was advanced in receptive and expressive language so would catagorize her aspie.  She is " officially " dx hfa b/c her dev ped believes any speech delay is a speech delay.  However she was referred there by a psychiatrist and the school b/c both thought she might have aspergers.  Her advocate can see how that is so easy to do b/c she no longer has a speech delay so you dont see or even talk abuot it but has so many aspie quirks.  yet she may have a pragmatic language delay, we are waiting on that evaluation, they will start speech evaluations next week.  Also I think no really knowledgable professional would dx her aspergers instead of hfa b/c of her other delays as a preschooler would exclude her (she had social and adapative behavioral delays dx at the age of 3½ by the school district).  yet all those quirks that can be very subtly different between the dx are not even part of the dsm

 

So for me it would be nice if they were catagorized more closely

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:45 AM, yadayada65 <donpark@...> wrote:

 

There seems to be a lot of different mind sets on this issue I was wondering what everyone thought of the fact that soon the term: Asperger's will no longer exist and Aspies will be known to have Autism Spectrum Disorder. It has been suggested that it is to help those people who actually have Asperger's and to stop the trend of Asperger's being the latest designer diagnosis - it's amazing to me how many parents seem to want to have their child diagnosed even when they don't meet the criteria. Apparently the glamourous or 'romantic' views of Asperger's on TV, saying that famous people through history had it, etc. has made it popular. I love my son desperately, but wanting your child to have a disorder is weird. Any imput into the name change? Just curious.

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My issue is that by merging the categories and modifying the criteria, it

becomes very hard to compare the new statistical data to the old data. Instead

of some people arguing that the increase in the number of diagnoses are the

result of more people being aware of Autism/Aspergers, they will argue that the

increases are the result of the radial change in the diagnostic criteria. It

will also become hard for researchers to find patterns comparing previous years'

data to that created with DSM-V.

I would guess it would be close to 10 years before you can claim there is any

trend with the new criteria. There will be a transition period of a few years

while doctors switch to the new criteria and get comfortable with it.

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I feel that it's much easier and helpful to say Asperger's Syndrome and then

explain that it's in the Autism Spectrum Disorders, than it is to say Autism

Spectrum Disorder and try to narrow it down to Asperger's. People look at my dd

and hear the word autism and immediately think of something that doesn't match

what my dd actually is. This can cause a variety of misunderstandings--whether

she seems fine at the time (they want to disregard the fact that she really has

heartwrenching issues she's dealing with) or whether they automatically

stereotype her, etc. I'm concerned about this.

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> There seems to be a lot of different mind sets on this issue I was wondering

what everyone thought of the fact that soon the term: Asperger's will no longer

exist and Aspies will be known to have Autism Spectrum Disorder. It has been

suggested that it is to help those people who actually have Asperger's and to

stop the trend of Asperger's being the latest designer diagnosis - it's amazing

to me how many parents seem to want to have their child diagnosed even when they

don't meet the criteria. Apparently the glamourous or 'romantic' views of

Asperger's on TV, saying that famous people through history had it, etc. has

made it popular. I love my son desperately, but wanting your child to have a

disorder is weird. Any imput into the name change? Just curious.

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IMO the merge will cause more confusion in schools. most teachers in our school see autism ONLY as the severe type. the HFA/aspergers children they don't see on the spectrum at all even with the HFA or aspergers label. when they hear autism they still see that as classic autism and say your child of HFA/aspergers is not autistic! changing their classification to OHI.

merging it all together will be great for the school - they'll be changing everyones classification to OHI because they don't fit their (school's) classification of autism. (but they can't change a medical dx). However- for most states the merge will be helpful for medical insurance reasons.

Also, when the schools change the child's classification to OHI, then the CSE doesn't need to train their teachers in autism.(this also depends on which state/school district your in)

From: bucaroobonzai2003 <ssernaker@...> Sent: Sun, April 4, 2010 8:33:36 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Asperger's diagnosis change in DSM-V

My issue is that by merging the categories and modifying the criteria, it becomes very hard to compare the new statistical data to the old data. Instead of some people arguing that the increase in the number of diagnoses are the result of more people being aware of Autism/Aspergers, they will argue that the increases are the result of the radial change in the diagnostic criteria. It will also become hard for researchers to find patterns comparing previous years' data to that created with DSM-V. I would guess it would be close to 10 years before you can claim there is any trend with the new criteria. There will be a transition period of a few years while doctors switch to the new criteria and get comfortable with it.-

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Because I have a child with Asperger's and a younger child with classic austism,

I am not in favor of the change. They are both SO different ... and I hope no

one takes any offense at this but when my 10 year old was diagnosed with

Asperger's, I have not explained to him that it was a form of autism, because

honestly I thought it would freak him out for him to think he had the same

diagnosis as his brother.

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> There seems to be a lot of different mind sets on this issue I was wondering

what everyone thought of the fact that soon the term: Asperger's will no longer

exist and Aspies will be known to have Autism Spectrum Disorder. It has been

suggested that it is to help those people who actually have Asperger's and to

stop the trend of Asperger's being the latest designer diagnosis - it's amazing

to me how many parents seem to want to have their child diagnosed even when they

don't meet the criteria. Apparently the glamourous or 'romantic' views of

Asperger's on TV, saying that famous people through history had it, etc. has

made it popular. I love my son desperately, but wanting your child to have a

disorder is weird. Any imput into the name change? Just curious.

>

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But, at least here, that happens now. Hfa kids don't have the

advantage of a seperate dx like aspergers and they aren't the same as

more severe autism so ppl don't get it, don't think they have it or

they have nowhere to go. Aspergers in my state is considered an asd

so covered under ryans law with autism and pdd-nos for insurance

coverage. But my district doesn't have an aspergers or pdd-nos

choice for iep so it would aready be ohi and hfa usually doesn't

qualify under their standards for autism so they get ohi as well. I

hav e read this happens in a lot of school ditrict. I don't think the

new dsm is going to change that b/c I think it is already a problem

that needs to be dealt with (and there is a committee fighting to have

it changed in my state)

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> IMO the merge will cause more confusion in schools.  most teachers in our

> school see autism ONLY as the severe type.  the HFA/aspergers children they

> don't see on the spectrum at all even with the HFA or aspergers label.  when

> they hear autism they still see that as classic autism and say your child of

> HFA/aspergers is not autistic! changing their classification to OHI.

> merging it all together will be great for the school - they'll be changing

> everyones classification to OHI because they don't fit their (school's)

> classification of autism. (but they can't change a medical dx).  However-

> for most states the merge will be helpful for medical insurance reasons.

> Also, when the schools change the child's classification to OHI,  then the

> CSE doesn't need to train their teachers in autism.

> (this also depends on which state/school district your in)

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> Sent: Sun, April 4, 2010 8:33:36 PM

> Subject: Re: ( ) Asperger's diagnosis change in DSM-V

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> My issue is that by merging the categories and modifying the criteria, it

> becomes very hard to compare the new statistical data to the old data.

> Instead of some people arguing that the increase in the number of diagnoses

> are the result of more people being aware of Autism/Aspergers, they will

> argue that the increases are the result of the radial change in the

> diagnostic criteria. It will also become hard for researchers to find

> patterns comparing previous years' data to that created with DSM-V.

>

> I would guess it would be close to 10 years before you can claim there is

> any trend with the new criteria. There will be a transition period of a few

> years while doctors switch to the new criteria and get comfortable with it.

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Hi,

I do not see the glamorous or romantic views of Asperges. Having an Aspie is time consuming, overwhelming,etc. I feel sometimes as living in the middle of chaos. Good week, then suddenly a bad week that immerse my entire mind and body into this tremendous chaos. In my aspie case, Emotional pain, suffering, being tease, being bullied, isolation.Adding to this, also are the physical problems that comes with it. Low muscle tone that lead sometimes to not being able to do physical things that other children do. Epilepsy that makes people afraid baby sitting.

My aspie girl has an average intelligency, with memory problem at time. She brings a brush with her when we go out, to brush herself and trick her senses when her senses get disturbed by smel, or other trigger...

After years of going to physical and ocupationa therapist we are in charge now. Exercise and occupational therapy are for ever....

Depression comes alone with all those problems. If you are a single mother, dating is very hard. My boyfriend got mad at my aspie last year during vacation. She was difficult and he could not handle the situation. Takes a lot of compasion and love to put up with Aspies temper tamtrums and mood.

Now what is the romance of that? Wlhat is the glamour?

I am so tired dealing with her , at time my body crash. I take anti axiety pills.

I am very devoted to her, I have not choice. I love her and I am her mother. My duty is to take care of her until she can take care of herself, but sometimes I get jelous of people that have normal life, I confort myself by thinking positive.

I do not watch parenthood. I do not relate to it. I am a single mother with three or four friends around me. I do not have a social network. I barely have time to do the dishes at the end of the day....

I hate Aspergers...

( ) Asperger's diagnosis change in DSM-VThere seems to be a lot of different mind sets on this issue I was wondering what everyone thought of the fact that soon the term: Asperger's will no longer exist and Aspies will be known to have Autism Spectrum Disorder. It has been suggested that it is to help those people who actually have Asperger's and to stop the trend of Asperger's being the latest designer diagnosis - it's amazing to me how many parents seem to want to have their child diagnosed even when they don't meet the criteria. Apparently the glamourous or 'romantic' views of Asperger's on TV, saying that famous people through history had it, etc. has made it popular. I love my son desperately, but wanting your child to have a disorder is weird. Any imput into the name change? Just curious.

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There's been a lot of discussion on the change in the definition of autism and

Aspergers. Personally I welcome it for now because I think it will make it

easier for my AS son to get more services in California. In California the

Regional Center is where you go to get services and support for autism, but the

way things are now, the Regional Center will turn away children with Aspergers

since in their mind it technically isn't autism. Some people have managed to get

their AS children qualified by Regional Center, but it seems to depend on

conditions they have besides AS.

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I've never heard of anyone who considered AS as being viewed as a desired trend,

despite any well-known names being associated with it. I can't imagine that

anyone who truly understands everything about AS would ever want their child to

have it, or have someone think they have it; because of all the misery that

accompanies it--the cruel teasing/bullying, loneliness, sorrow, embarrassment,

confusion and all that they suffer through (and we parents suffer too, because I

love my dd who is so hurt by others' reactions). Not all AS people are geniuses,

some have average intelligence, so they aren't necessarily accepted because of a

genius status either. It's so sad, and I feel so helpless. -Kari

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> Hi,

>

>

>

> I do not see the glamorous or romantic views of Asperges. Having an Aspie is

time consuming, overwhelming,etc. I feel sometimes as living in the middle of

chaos. Good week, then suddenly a bad week that immerse my entire mind and body

into this tremendous chaos. In my aspie case, Emotional pain, suffering, being

tease, being bullied, isolation.Adding to this, also are  the physical

problems that comes with it. Low muscle tone that l ead sometimes to not being

able to do physical things that other children do. Epilepsy that makes people

afraid baby sitting.

>

>

>

> My aspie girl has an average intelligency, with memory problem at time. She

brings a brush with her when we go out, to brush herself and trick her senses

when her senses get disturbed by smel, or other trigger...

>

> After years of going to physical and ocupationa therapist we are in charge

now. Exercise and occupational therapy are for ever....

>

> Depression comes alone with all those problems. If you are a single mother,

dating is very hard.  My boyfriend got mad at my aspie last year during   

vacation. She was difficult and he could not handle the situation. Takes a lot

of compasion and love to put up with Aspies temper tamtrums and mood.

>

>

>

> Now what is the romance of that? Wlhat is the glamour?

>

>

>

> I am so tired dealing with her , at time my body crash.  I take anti axiety

pills.

>

> I am very devoted to her, I have not choice. I love her and I am her mother.

My duty is to take care of her until she can take care of herself, but s

ometimes I get jelous of people that  have  normal life, I confort myself by

thinking positive.

>

>

>

> I do not watch parenthood. I do not relate to it. I am a single mother with

three or four friends around me. I do not have a social network. I barely have

time to do the dishes at the end of the day....

>

>

>

> I hate Aspergers...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ( ) Asperger's diagnosis change in DSM-V

>

> There seems to be a lot of different mind sets on this issue I was wondering

what everyone thought of the fact that soon the term: Asperger's will no longer

exist and Aspies will be known to have Autism Spectrum Disorder. It has been

suggested that it is to help those people who actually have Asperger's and to

stop the trend of Asperger's being the latest designer diagnosis - it's amazing

to me how many parents seem to want to have their child diagnosed even when they

don't meet the criteria. Apparently the glamourous or 'romantic' views of

Asperger's on TV, saying that famous people through history had it, etc. has

made it popular.  I love my son desperately, but wanting your child to have a

disorder is weird. Any imput into the name change? Just curious.

>

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