Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 hey rob never heard of it eit her, think they should gige us one don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 I have used Barleygreen and also one from the drug store called Greens +. I am at a loss to tell the difference myself. [ ] juice plus > Hi, has anyone other than the author of juice plus heard of this product and > its benefits, please let me know as I'm wondering if this takes the place of > juicing every day. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > Learn more about cancer: > http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/ > http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/faq.htm > http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ > http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1158 > > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the egroups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 >>Subject: [ ] juice plus > I never made a claim about juice plus being a cure or replacement for juicing > eating fruits or vegetables. I never said it would make you feel better. I > have seen many things on this site and have tried some of them and I can't From Lorenzo; Since most persons diagnosed with cancer are eating a " Sure to get cancer diet " ! It is hard to fault a juice diet. There may be better diets; But cancer patients do no eat safe diets! Please follow the latest medical reports. You will see it slowly ,,,Ever so slowly evolve that " We All have Cancer.. Some of us do not die of it..Because We Eat Safe Food ...However Diabetes is an exploding disease in our culture. Cancer thrives in the same Body situations as Diabetes, and Heart Failure. That controlling factor is a diet HIGH in refined carbohydrates and refined sugars. Go to the Supermarket. Count the items of fresh Vegetables, Meat and Fruit in the usual basket that the usual person is buying. Also count the packages of food that is in a package, box or bottle. Then count the safe natural foods. Then you will understand that medical costs will keep going up and UP> Only the fresh foods are safe to eat. The other foods are promoting Cancer and other problems. Carefully watch what your Cancer friends eat. Then PLEASE report back here---------So those of us who remain in control of our diet can consider the results. I have had very sad experience with friends who died of cancer, They do not listen to advice about eating.. Sorry, , Best Regards, Lorenzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 agreed. yet just eating " fresh vegetables, meat, and fruits " isn't enough. we need to make sure those vegetables and meats are grown organically. we have a sad state of affairs in our country, where the air we breathe, the food we eat, and the water we drink are all contaminated with pesticide residues and pollution of one sort or the other. how can we expect our bodies to be clean and functioning properly when we're loading our food, air and water with pesticides? do we think that these harmful chemicals ONLY kill off " pests " ? this is delusion on a grande scale. cancer victims need to stand up and demand organically grown fruits, vegetables, and meats. -dianna On Fri, 05 January 2001, " Lorenzo " wrote: > > >>Subject: [ ] juice plus > > > > I never made a claim about juice plus being a cure or > replacement for juicing > > eating fruits or vegetables. I never said it would make > you feel better. I > > have seen many things on this site and have tried some of > them and I can't > > From Lorenzo; > > Since most persons diagnosed with cancer are eating a > " Sure to get cancer diet " ! > > It is hard to fault a juice diet. There may be better > diets; But cancer patients do no eat safe diets! > > > Please follow the latest medical reports. You will see > it slowly ,,,Ever so slowly evolve that " We All have > Cancer.. Some of us do not die of it..Because We Eat > Safe Food ...However Diabetes is an exploding disease in > our culture. > > Cancer thrives in the same Body situations as Diabetes, > and Heart Failure. That controlling factor is a diet > HIGH in refined carbohydrates and refined sugars. > > Go to the Supermarket. Count the items of fresh > Vegetables, Meat and Fruit in the usual basket that the > usual person is buying. Also count the packages of > food that is in a package, box or bottle. Then count the > safe natural foods. Then you will understand that > medical costs will keep going up and UP> > > Only the fresh foods are safe to eat. The other foods > are promoting Cancer and other problems. > > Carefully watch what your Cancer friends eat. Then PLEASE > report back here---------So those of us who remain in > control of our diet can consider the results. > > I have had very sad experience with friends who died of > cancer, They do not listen to advice about eating.. > > Sorry, , Best Regards, > Lorenzo > > > > > Learn more about cancer: > http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/ > http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/faq.htm > http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ > http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1158 > > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the egroups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 As you said, even with organic food, you still have polluted air and water. I believe it is very beneficial to do detox regularly to cleanse our body and keep our organs working better. Then food you eat and supplements you take will be assimilated much better. -- Yumi Guidotti yumig@... > From: dianna@... > Reply- egroups > Date: 6 Jan 2001 04:42:56 -0800 > egroups > Subject: Re: [ ] juice plus > > agreed. yet just eating " fresh vegetables, meat, and fruits " isn't enough. we > need to make sure those vegetables and meats are grown organically. we have a > sad state of affairs in our country, where the air we breathe, the food we > eat, and the water we drink are all contaminated with pesticide residues and > pollution of one sort or the other. how can we expect our bodies to be clean > and functioning properly when we're loading our food, air and water with > pesticides? do we think that these harmful chemicals ONLY kill off " pests " ? > this is delusion on a grande scale. cancer victims need to stand up and demand > organically grown fruits, vegetables, and meats. > -dianna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 Zoey, Just use this as a supplement. Usually if a vitamin drink is actually drinkable it does not contain enough iron. Hope this helps. Pusey, FNP Juice Plus Hey Gang, I have found this great supplement called Juice Plus and was wondering if I could drop the vitamin and just take it or should i do it as a supplement...It is all natural and comes highly recommended by a well known Cancer Doctor in this area...Its kind of expensive but with all i take now I could drop most of the stuff and save money by taking it...I know its not an exciting questions but just needed some insite from the group to see what your thoughts are on this..or if you are peeking Dr. Rutledge, let me know what you think..been almost 3 years for me... Zoey 4/20/2000 MGB 262/128/145 and holding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 First of all, the " healthy " approach is to take your thyroid medicine. Do you realize you are complaining about thyroid symptoms, like depression? Why are you not taking your full dose, at least? Your problems are due to thyroid, you're not taking your medicine, so your problems are getting worse. There is not a juice on the planet that will give you the thryoid hormone you need. Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:Hello, I was wondering if anyone has tried this product and what results you had. I've been taking it for a few days now and I seem to have a lot more energy and just feel better in general. I've been taking half of my .025mg of Levothyroxine for the last 4 months and I had never felt so depressed and unhappy for such a long period of time. Normally, I can go through a few days of depression because of hormones and PMS but not like this. I'm not working right now so I don't have insurance. I decided to quit taking the thyroid medicine and try a healthier approach. So far, I feel a hundred times better but I don't understand why I felt so bad before I started taking it and now I feel better off of it too? Maybe I was having a bad reaction or something? I have been exercising more and eating better but no weight loss): Janaina Viggiano <janaina@...> wrote: It is a good idea - although if she has adrenal problems, that will be the worst of all possible protocols. But bottomline: don't give up. Worse case scenario they have a thyroid hormone intolerance group here in . Jan Sherry wrote: >Hi Una, > >Before you give up, here's one last point to consider -'s >protocol. Have you tried this, do you know what it is? As you may, >or may not know, Armour and all other T4 drugs will make you worse if >conversion is your problem. If you are hypo, and T4 drugs make you >worse especially at increasing doses, you need to give this protocol >a try. > >Sherry > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 I agree. Poor has been suffering a long time. Gracia > First of all, the " healthy " approach is to take your thyroid medicine. Do you realize you are complaining about thyroid symptoms, like depression? Why are you not taking your full dose, at least? Your problems are due to thyroid, you're not taking your medicine, so your problems are getting worse. There is not a juice on the planet that will give you the thryoid hormone you need. > > Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:Hello, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 The depression was much worse when I was taking the thyroid medicine? <melmac2525@...> wrote:First of all, the " healthy " approach is to take your thyroid medicine. Do you realize you are complaining about thyroid symptoms, like depression? Why are you not taking your full dose, at least? Your problems are due to thyroid, you're not taking your medicine, so your problems are getting worse. There is not a juice on the planet that will give you the thryoid hormone you need. Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:Hello, I was wondering if anyone has tried this product and what results you had. I've been taking it for a few days now and I seem to have a lot more energy and just feel better in general. I've been taking half of my .025mg of Levothyroxine for the last 4 months and I had never felt so depressed and unhappy for such a long period of time. Normally, I can go through a few days of depression because of hormones and PMS but not like this. I'm not working right now so I don't have insurance. I decided to quit taking the thyroid medicine and try a healthier approach. So far, I feel a hundred times better but I don't understand why I felt so bad before I started taking it and now I feel better off of it too? Maybe I was having a bad reaction or something? I have been exercising more and eating better but no weight loss): Janaina Viggiano <janaina@...> wrote: It is a good idea - although if she has adrenal problems, that will be the worst of all possible protocols. But bottomline: don't give up. Worse case scenario they have a thyroid hormone intolerance group here in . Jan Sherry wrote: >Hi Una, > >Before you give up, here's one last point to consider -'s >protocol. Have you tried this, do you know what it is? As you may, >or may not know, Armour and all other T4 drugs will make you worse if >conversion is your problem. If you are hypo, and T4 drugs make you >worse especially at increasing doses, you need to give this protocol >a try. > >Sherry > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 b/c you need more meds, different meds, adrenal hormone. Gracia > The depression was much worse when I was taking the thyroid medicine? > > <melmac2525@...> wrote:First of all, the " healthy " approach is to take your thyroid medicine. Do you realize you are complaining about thyroid symptoms, like depression? Why are you not taking your full dose, at least? Your problems are due to thyroid, you're not taking your medicine, so your problems are getting worse. There is not a juice on the planet that will give you the thryoid hormone you need. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Thanks Gracia. Well, I guess I should have explained things a little better. I decided to start taking the Juice Plus because I don't eat enough fruit and vegetables. Could it be possible though that a nutritionally deficient diet could cause symptoms similar to hypo? Or maybe even put greater stress on your thyroid gland? In regards to the synthroid, it wasn't making me feel better so why would I want to continue to take it? I've tried Armour too and I just don't notice any changes. It really sucks. Gracia <circe@...> wrote: I agree. Poor has been suffering a long time. Gracia > First of all, the " healthy " approach is to take your thyroid medicine. Do you realize you are complaining about thyroid symptoms, like depression? Why are you not taking your full dose, at least? Your problems are due to thyroid, you're not taking your medicine, so your problems are getting worse. There is not a juice on the planet that will give you the thryoid hormone you need. > > Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:Hello, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Well, I took it and it did absolutley nothing for me in regards to energy. Although I think it fed my growing baby well, it really had no effect on me. I had also tried Armour and did not have a good time with it( I was PG at the time, will try again...). I really got better when I added in Tyrosine and a good bio-available B-complex vitamin. P > > >Hi Una, > > > >Before you give up, here's one last point to consider -'s > >protocol. Have you tried this, do you know what it is? As you may, > >or may not know, Armour and all other T4 drugs will make you worse if > >conversion is your problem. If you are hypo, and T4 drugs make you > >worse especially at increasing doses, you need to give this protocol > >a try. > > > >Sherry > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 This can happen for several reasons. One, if you are hypo long enough, you can have lower output of the chemicals in your brain needed so you are not depressed. You might need to take antidepressants for a while. Two, sometimes being very hypo, people are depressed about situations in their lives but don't have the energy to *feel* their depression until they get a little treatment. (This is the reason some people become suicidal after starting on antidepressants. They get just better enough to feel their pain and do something about it.) Three, often depression is a reaction to realizing you have a serious illness, such as hypothyroidism. Four, you may not have been on a high enough dose or may not have given the medicine enough time to work. You were on a low dose of T4 and were taking *half* that. Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:The depression was much worse when I was taking the thyroid medicine? <melmac2525@...> wrote:First of all, the " healthy " approach is to take your thyroid medicine. Do you realize you are complaining about thyroid symptoms, like depression? Why are you not taking your full dose, at least? Your problems are due to thyroid, you're not taking your medicine, so your problems are getting worse. There is not a juice on the planet that will give you the thryoid hormone you need. Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:Hello, I was wondering if anyone has tried this product and what results you had. I've been taking it for a few days now and I seem to have a lot more energy and just feel better in general. I've been taking half of my .025mg of Levothyroxine for the last 4 months and I had never felt so depressed and unhappy for such a long period of time. Normally, I can go through a few days of depression because of hormones and PMS but not like this. I'm not working right now so I don't have insurance. I decided to quit taking the thyroid medicine and try a healthier approach. So far, I feel a hundred times better but I don't understand why I felt so bad before I started taking it and now I feel better off of it too? Maybe I was having a bad reaction or something? I have been exercising more and eating better but no weight loss): Janaina Viggiano <janaina@...> wrote: It is a good idea - although if she has adrenal problems, that will be the worst of all possible protocols. But bottomline: don't give up. Worse case scenario they have a thyroid hormone intolerance group here in . Jan Sherry wrote: >Hi Una, > >Before you give up, here's one last point to consider -'s >protocol. Have you tried this, do you know what it is? As you may, >or may not know, Armour and all other T4 drugs will make you worse if >conversion is your problem. If you are hypo, and T4 drugs make you >worse especially at increasing doses, you need to give this protocol >a try. > >Sherry > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 If you need tyrosine you probably need iodine too. Gracia > Well, I took it and it did absolutley nothing for me in regards to > energy. Although I think it fed my growing baby well, it really had > no effect on me. I had also tried Armour and did not have a good time > with it( I was PG at the time, will try again...). I really got > better when I added in Tyrosine and a good bio-available B-complex > vitamin. > > P > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 ! you will need to treat both adrenals and thyroid. It will make such a big difference, believe me! You have got to find a good doc, Broda type. http://www.brodabarnes.org Gracia > Thanks Gracia. Well, I guess I should have explained things a little better. I decided to start taking the Juice Plus because I don't eat enough fruit and vegetables. Could it be possible though that a nutritionally deficient diet could cause symptoms similar to hypo? Or maybe even put greater stress on your thyroid gland? > > In regards to the synthroid, it wasn't making me feel better so why would I want to continue to take it? I've tried Armour too and I just don't notice any changes. It really sucks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Hi , What do you mean Bio-available? I've never heard of that. Can you tell me exactly what you're taking and how many miligrams so I can look into that. Thanks! Also, one other thing I noticed is a rash I have had on my arms for almost a year has almost completely gone away since I started taking the juice plus and my skin looks better too! I guess if it doesn't help with my thyroid symptoms at least I'll look better, right?(: I still have a sense of humor believe it or not(; nabie67 <rpowell@...> wrote: Well, I took it and it did absolutley nothing for me in regards to energy. Although I think it fed my growing baby well, it really had no effect on me. I had also tried Armour and did not have a good time with it( I was PG at the time, will try again...). I really got better when I added in Tyrosine and a good bio-available B-complex vitamin. P > > >Hi Una, > > > >Before you give up, here's one last point to consider -'s > >protocol. Have you tried this, do you know what it is? As you may, > >or may not know, Armour and all other T4 drugs will make you worse if > >conversion is your problem. If you are hypo, and T4 drugs make you > >worse especially at increasing doses, you need to give this protocol > >a try. > > > >Sherry > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Ok, I'll check into it. Thanks a lot Gracia! Gracia <circe@...> wrote: ! you will need to treat both adrenals and thyroid. It will make such a big difference, believe me! You have got to find a good doc, Broda type. http://www.brodabarnes.org Gracia > Thanks Gracia. Well, I guess I should have explained things a little better. I decided to start taking the Juice Plus because I don't eat enough fruit and vegetables. Could it be possible though that a nutritionally deficient diet could cause symptoms similar to hypo? Or maybe even put greater stress on your thyroid gland? > > In regards to the synthroid, it wasn't making me feel better so why would I want to continue to take it? I've tried Armour too and I just don't notice any changes. It really sucks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 You may have a point but now I'm terrified to take anything. I can't live like that. Since I stopped taking the synthroid my body is achy again and I'm thinking slowly but I was SEVERELY depressed for four months and now it just disappeared as soon as I quit the Synthroid. I'll keep all of that in mind though. Thanks for your input(: <melmac2525@...> wrote: This can happen for several reasons. One, if you are hypo long enough, you can have lower output of the chemicals in your brain needed so you are not depressed. You might need to take antidepressants for a while. Two, sometimes being very hypo, people are depressed about situations in their lives but don't have the energy to *feel* their depression until they get a little treatment. (This is the reason some people become suicidal after starting on antidepressants. They get just better enough to feel their pain and do something about it.) Three, often depression is a reaction to realizing you have a serious illness, such as hypothyroidism. Four, you may not have been on a high enough dose or may not have given the medicine enough time to work. You were on a low dose of T4 and were taking *half* that. Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:The depression was much worse when I was taking the thyroid medicine? <melmac2525@...> wrote:First of all, the " healthy " approach is to take your thyroid medicine. Do you realize you are complaining about thyroid symptoms, like depression? Why are you not taking your full dose, at least? Your problems are due to thyroid, you're not taking your medicine, so your problems are getting worse. There is not a juice on the planet that will give you the thryoid hormone you need. Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:Hello, I was wondering if anyone has tried this product and what results you had. I've been taking it for a few days now and I seem to have a lot more energy and just feel better in general. I've been taking half of my .025mg of Levothyroxine for the last 4 months and I had never felt so depressed and unhappy for such a long period of time. Normally, I can go through a few days of depression because of hormones and PMS but not like this. I'm not working right now so I don't have insurance. I decided to quit taking the thyroid medicine and try a healthier approach. So far, I feel a hundred times better but I don't understand why I felt so bad before I started taking it and now I feel better off of it too? Maybe I was having a bad reaction or something? I have been exercising more and eating better but no weight loss): Janaina Viggiano <janaina@...> wrote: It is a good idea - although if she has adrenal problems, that will be the worst of all possible protocols. But bottomline: don't give up. Worse case scenario they have a thyroid hormone intolerance group here in . Jan Sherry wrote: >Hi Una, > >Before you give up, here's one last point to consider -'s >protocol. Have you tried this, do you know what it is? As you may, >or may not know, Armour and all other T4 drugs will make you worse if >conversion is your problem. If you are hypo, and T4 drugs make you >worse especially at increasing doses, you need to give this protocol >a try. > >Sherry > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 , You must consider T3 (cytomel) if the hypo symptoms return. I know some here do not believe in 's, but there is strong scientific evidence in favor of it. The T3 should address the achiness and if you were reacting to T4, the T3 is different. Ask your doctor if you can have a few days worth of samples of T3. Unlike T4, T3 will have an almost immediate effect. So you can immediately judge if it makes you feel better and continue or stop without suffering for days. T3 (Cytomel) does address depression specifically. In fact some find it easier to obtain from psychiatrists, even though it is thyroid hormone in it's simpliest form. Achiness and joint pain are symptoms of hypothroidism. BTW - I would not stop the juice plus. I think everyone here will agree that you must start with good nutrition. As many anorexic can report, hypo can be triggered by prolonged reduced caloric intake. Sherry > You may have a point but now I'm terrified to take anything. I can't live like that. Since I stopped taking the synthroid my body is achy again and I'm thinking slowly but I was SEVERELY depressed for four months and now it just disappeared as soon as I quit the Synthroid. I'll keep all of that in mind though. Thanks for your input(: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 you were depressed b/c you need T3 and cortisol. $ynthroid is not the only thyroid medication! Read about thyroid/adrenal relationship. http://www.drrind.com http://www.drlam.com There are many other sites. Gail's thyroid tips is good. Gracia > You may have a point but now I'm terrified to take anything. I can't live like that. Since I stopped taking the synthroid my body is achy again and I'm thinking slowly but I was SEVERELY depressed for four months and now it just disappeared as soon as I quit the Synthroid. I'll keep all of that in mind though. Thanks for your input(: > > <melmac2525@...> wrote: > This can happen for several reasons. One, if you are hypo long enough, you can have lower output of the chemicals in your brain needed so you are not depressed. You might need to take antidepressants for a while. Two, sometimes being very hypo, people are depressed about situations in their lives but don't have the energy to *feel* their depression until they get a little treatment. (This is the reason some people become suicidal after starting on antidepressants. They get just better enough to feel their pain and do something about it.) Three, often depression is a reaction to realizing you have a serious illness, such as hypothyroidism. Four, you may not have been on a high enough dose or may not have given the medicine enough time to work. You were on a low dose of T4 and were taking *half* that. > > Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:The depression was much worse when I was taking the thyroid medicine? > > <melmac2525@...> wrote:First of all, the " healthy " approach is to take your thyroid medicine. Do you realize you are complaining about thyroid symptoms, like depression? Why are you not taking your full dose, at least? Your problems are due to thyroid, you're not taking your medicine, so your problems are getting worse. There is not a juice on the planet that will give you the thryoid hormone you need. > > Nunnally <dezign4you@...> wrote:Hello, > > I was wondering if anyone has tried this product and what results you had. I've been taking it for a few days now and I seem to have a lot more energy and just feel better in general. I've been taking half of my .025mg of Levothyroxine for the last 4 months and I had never felt so depressed and unhappy for such a long period of time. Normally, I can go through a few days of depression because of hormones and PMS but not like this. I'm not working right now so I don't have insurance. I decided to quit taking the thyroid medicine and try a healthier approach. So far, I feel a hundred times better but I don't understand why I felt so bad before I started taking it and now I feel better off of it too? Maybe I was having a bad reaction or something? I have been exercising more and eating better but no weight loss): > > > > Janaina Viggiano <janaina@...> wrote: > It is a good idea - although if she has adrenal problems, that will be > the worst of all possible protocols. > > But bottomline: don't give up. Worse case scenario they have a thyroid > hormone intolerance group here in . > > > > Jan > > Sherry wrote: > > >Hi Una, > > > >Before you give up, here's one last point to consider -'s > >protocol. Have you tried this, do you know what it is? As you may, > >or may not know, Armour and all other T4 drugs will make you worse if > >conversion is your problem. If you are hypo, and T4 drugs make you > >worse especially at increasing doses, you need to give this protocol > >a try. > > > >Sherry > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Ok, you've all convinced me(: I won't give up, I'll look into all of this and see if I can get my doctor to prescribe me something else. I'm glad I have you all to consult with. Thanks again(: I'll keep you posted. Gracia <circe@...> wrote: ! you will need to treat both adrenals and thyroid. It will make such a big difference, believe me! You have got to find a good doc, Broda type. http://www.brodabarnes.org Gracia > Thanks Gracia. Well, I guess I should have explained things a little better. I decided to start taking the Juice Plus because I don't eat enough fruit and vegetables. Could it be possible though that a nutritionally deficient diet could cause symptoms similar to hypo? Or maybe even put greater stress on your thyroid gland? > > In regards to the synthroid, it wasn't making me feel better so why would I want to continue to take it? I've tried Armour too and I just don't notice any changes. It really sucks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 , Please at least get back on the synthroid. I am on T4 only (with back- up vitamins and adrenal glandulars) for 9 weeks now. After I have been on a certain dose for 4 to 6 weeks, I also found I will stall, and even go backwards. So I upped my dose of T4 by 25 mcg, and within days I'm back on track, getting better again. I think you started out on a very small dose? If so, tell your Dr. that you're no longer progressing, because I have a drug site that says that will happen if you're not on a large enough dose. This does need to be done in very small increments of dosage, and over time (four to six weeks), not to shock your system. As far a I can understand, you may have had just enough thyroid supplement to supress whatever funtion your own gland may have had on its own, but not enough to relieve symptoms. This is my opinion only, and what works for me. Gail > Ok, you've all convinced me(: I won't give up, I'll look into all of this and see if I can get my doctor to prescribe me something else. I'm glad I have you all to consult with. Thanks again(: I'll keep you posted. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 I think it might be a catch phrase in the business, but all I mean is a B-vitamin that is ABSORBED well. Whether a vitamin disolves easily is not as important as how much you are actually absorbing. Also, I've heard that hypo/hashi's have big problems absorbing B-vitamins so that's why I say get something that is bioavailable. P > > > > >Hi Una, > > > > > >Before you give up, here's one last point to consider -'s > > >protocol. Have you tried this, do you know what it is? As you > may, > > >or may not know, Armour and all other T4 drugs will make you worse > if > > >conversion is your problem. If you are hypo, and T4 drugs make > you > > >worse especially at increasing doses, you need to give this > protocol > > >a try. > > > > > >Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Fresh squeezed pig thyroid juice, maybe? LOL Sorry to make light but I agree: DO NOT stop taking your medication. If it doesn't agree with you - ask your doctor about a diffferent medication. Jan wrote: >First of all, the " healthy " approach is to take your thyroid medicine. Do you realize you are complaining about thyroid symptoms, like depression? Why are you not taking your full dose, at least? Your problems are due to thyroid, you're not taking your medicine, so your problems are getting worse. There is not a juice on the planet that will give you the thryoid hormone you need. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Gracia, I try not to take any iodine as I hear that it can be bad for a Hashi's person( as I am...). I'm kind of wary of " whole foods " supplements because they usually have kelp AND iodine in them. Wrong?? > > If you need tyrosine you probably need iodine too. > Gracia > > > Well, I took it and it did absolutley nothing for me in regards to > > energy. Although I think it fed my growing baby well, it really had > > no effect on me. I had also tried Armour and did not have a good time > > with it( I was PG at the time, will try again...). I really got > > better when I added in Tyrosine and a good bio-available B- complex > > vitamin. > > > > P > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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