vaccine question

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At 02:44 AM 12/12/2003 -0000, you wrote:

>Would your antibodies to a particular vaccine show up as increased if

>a vaccine caused your death?

>

Not necessarily

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[Guest guest]

I didnt think so. I have no doubt that vaccines can cause death.

How then is a parent supposed to find out if a vaccine has caused

their childs death

-- In Vaccinations , Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@t...>

wrote:

> At 02:44 AM 12/12/2003 -0000, you wrote:

> >Would your antibodies to a particular vaccine show up as increased

if

> >a vaccine caused your death?

> >

>

> Not necessarily

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> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

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> DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

>

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> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

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At 03:03 PM 12/12/2003 -0000, you wrote:

>I didnt think so. I have no doubt that vaccines can cause death.

>How then is a parent supposed to find out if a vaccine has caused

>their childs death

>

There is NO way to know for sure..............and less ways to prove it to

'their' satisfaction

And if you want to claim it from the govt you report it to VAERS and then

go through a process and if you fit their criteria it is proven and their

criteria is extremely limiting.

Randall Neustaedter has some info there in his book The Vaccine Guide on

the criteria that is used

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/bookstor.htm#vaccine

You have a healthy child, he gets a vaccine, within minutes/hours/days he

reacts in some way with some illness...........can't prove its the vaccine

but what is the likelihood otherwise. If he got an antibiotic and reacted

similarly they would jump thru hoops and tell you to never get another

antibiotic. not so with vaccines. According to them it is never vaccines.

And their studies are jokes - children only followed for a few days,

compared to other vaccinated children in their studies, children who don't

do well after the vaccine in study removed from the study.....lies and

manipulations.

Its about selling vaccine, not caring about safety

Sheri

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[Guest guest]

I personally would not get them. Vaccines are not at all as safe as

they proclaim them to be. My 7 yr old son has autism. You can get an

exemption easily enough from getting them, either philosophical or

religious in all states except Mississippi and West Virginia where you

have to have a Medical exemption. Please do more research before going

through with this. The MMR and DTap are multiple vaccines and may have

contributed to her seizures starting in the first place from previous

vaccinations.

>>> wsmomkim@... 4/24/2006 8:36:49 PM >>>

Hi Everone,

I need some advice! My daughter is 5 and has complex partial seizures.

She was diagnosed two years ago. She has had about 16 since then with

an average of about 5 weeks apart. Hers always have happenned first

thing when she wakes up in the morning. She is on Trileptal 12.5 mls

per day. So my question is...She is suppossed to get her shots soon in

order to start kindergarten. She will get the DTaP, IPV and MMR. I

have been reading that some people don't give their child these

because they might aggravate the seizures. I just don't know what to

do. Has anyone had any experience with this or know anything? I don't

want to give them to her if they are going to aggravate the seizures

but I don't want her not to have them and then have her get sick. Her

neurologist said it is f ine and to just give her Tylenol before hand

so she dosn't get a fever. But I am not thinking fever, I am thinking

if this will bother the epilepsy. Any advice would be greatly

appreciated! Thanks, Kim

[Guest guest]

Here is a link to all the manufacturer's package inserts (not the fluff stuff

they give you at

the doctor's office). You can read for yourself the ingredients (formaldehyde,

monkey

kidneys, aborted human fetal cells, neomyocin, aluminum, etc) and

contraindications (see

that the DTaP causes a 2.4% increase in seizures in kids with a history of

seizures).

If you decide not to give your dd anymore shots, you will need an exemption for

school. I

would not try for a medical exemption. Most doctors are so gung-ho about vaxes

that it

is rare to find one who would give you an exemption. And even then, the

exemption is

only for specific vaxes and it has to be renewed every year - so you would be at

the whim

of your doc.

Best to get a religious exemption. You do not need to belong to any specific

religious

organization. These are your own personal religious beliefs (in that the divine

being- by

whatever name you use - created us with an immune system and does not wish us to

mess around with a healthy body but to trust in him/her for our health.)

Doesn't matter

that your child has already had vaxes, either. A religious epiphany can occur

at anytime.

If you would like help in finding out what you need to do to obtain an exemption

in your

state, please feel free to email me personally. I have helped several other

moms on

another messageboard.

A couple books I would recommend on the subject are " Vaccines: Are They Really

Safe and

Effective? " by Neil Z (is pretty up to date and goes over each vaccine),

and " Raising a

Vaccine Free Child " by Lydall (talks about the history of vaxes and the

diseases they

are supposed to prevent).

If you aren't sure, then cancel any doctor visits until you have a chance to do

your research

and feel sure about your decision.

-Tina

[Guest guest]

sure! happy to share info. i'm also more than happy

to help anyone looking for school exemption

advice..some states are easier than others.

-Tina

--- Hallie <brucker3@...> wrote:

> Would you allow me to pass this along to my

> ketogenic group without your email address or name..

>

> They are currently discussing whether to Vax or not.

> Hallie (Tanners grandma)

> [ ] Re: Vaccine Question

>

>

> Here is a link to all the manufacturer's package

> inserts (not the fluff stuff they give you at

> the doctor's office). You can read for yourself

> the ingredients (formaldehyde, monkey

> kidneys, aborted human fetal cells, neomyocin,

> aluminum, etc) and contraindications (see

> that the DTaP causes a 2.4% increase in seizures

> in kids with a history of seizures).

>

> If you decide not to give your dd anymore shots,

> you will need an exemption for school. I

> would not try for a medical exemption. Most

> doctors are so gung-ho about vaxes that it

> is rare to find one who would give you an

> exemption. And even then, the exemption is

> only for specific vaxes and it has to be renewed

> every year - so you would be at the whim

> of your doc.

>

> Best to get a religious exemption. You do not

> need to belong to any specific religious

> organization. These are your own personal

> religious beliefs (in that the divine being- by

> whatever name you use - created us with an immune

> system and does not wish us to

> mess around with a healthy body but to trust in

> him/her for our health.) Doesn't matter

> that your child has already had vaxes, either. A

> religious epiphany can occur at anytime.

>

> If you would like help in finding out what you

> need to do to obtain an exemption in your

> state, please feel free to email me personally. I

> have helped several other moms on

> another messageboard.

>

> A couple books I would recommend on the subject

> are " Vaccines: Are They Really Safe and

> Effective? " by Neil Z (is pretty up to date

> and goes over each vaccine), and " Raising a

> Vaccine Free Child " by Lydall (talks about

> the history of vaxes and the diseases they

> are supposed to prevent).

>

> If you aren't sure, then cancel any doctor visits

> until you have a chance to do your research

> and feel sure about your decision.

>

> -Tina

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Wow, you are sure knowledgable. You have spent some time on this subject and it

shows.

mehim2catsnbaby <mehim2catsnbaby@...> wrote:

Here is a link to all the manufacturer's package inserts (not the fluff stuff

they give you at

the doctor's office). You can read for yourself the ingredients (formaldehyde,

monkey

kidneys, aborted human fetal cells, neomyocin, aluminum, etc) and

contraindications (see

that the DTaP causes a 2.4% increase in seizures in kids with a history of

seizures).

If you decide not to give your dd anymore shots, you will need an exemption for

school. I

would not try for a medical exemption. Most doctors are so gung-ho about vaxes

that it

is rare to find one who would give you an exemption. And even then, the

exemption is

only for specific vaxes and it has to be renewed every year - so you would be at

the whim

of your doc.

Best to get a religious exemption. You do not need to belong to any specific

religious

organization. These are your own personal religious beliefs (in that the divine

being- by

whatever name you use - created us with an immune system and does not wish us to

mess around with a healthy body but to trust in him/her for our health.)

Doesn't matter

that your child has already had vaxes, either. A religious epiphany can occur

at anytime.

If you would like help in finding out what you need to do to obtain an exemption

in your

state, please feel free to email me personally. I have helped several other

moms on

another messageboard.

A couple books I would recommend on the subject are " Vaccines: Are They Really

Safe and

Effective? " by Neil Z (is pretty up to date and goes over each vaccine),

and " Raising a

Vaccine Free Child " by Lydall (talks about the history of vaxes and the

diseases they

are supposed to prevent).

If you aren't sure, then cancel any doctor visits until you have a chance to do

your research

and feel sure about your decision.

-Tina

[Guest guest]

Thanks,Tina.

Hallie

[ ] Re: Vaccine Question

>

>

> Here is a link to all the manufacturer's package

> inserts (not the fluff stuff they give you at

> the doctor's office). You can read for yourself

> the ingredients (formaldehyde, monkey

> kidneys, aborted human fetal cells, neomyocin,

> aluminum, etc) and contraindications (see

> that the DTaP causes a 2.4% increase in seizures

> in kids with a history of seizures).

>

> If you decide not to give your dd anymore shots,

> you will need an exemption for school. I

> would not try for a medical exemption. Most

> doctors are so gung-ho about vaxes that it

> is rare to find one who would give you an

> exemption. And even then, the exemption is

> only for specific vaxes and it has to be renewed

> every year - so you would be at the whim

> of your doc.

>

> Best to get a religious exemption. You do not

> need to belong to any specific religious

> organization. These are your own personal

> religious beliefs (in that the divine being- by

> whatever name you use - created us with an immune

> system and does not wish us to

> mess around with a healthy body but to trust in

> him/her for our health.) Doesn't matter

> that your child has already had vaxes, either. A

> religious epiphany can occur at anytime.

>

> If you would like help in finding out what you

> need to do to obtain an exemption in your

> state, please feel free to email me personally. I

> have helped several other moms on

> another messageboard.

>

> A couple books I would recommend on the subject

> are " Vaccines: Are They Really Safe and

> Effective? " by Neil Z (is pretty up to date

> and goes over each vaccine), and " Raising a

> Vaccine Free Child " by Lydall (talks about

> the history of vaxes and the diseases they

> are supposed to prevent).

>

> If you aren't sure, then cancel any doctor visits

> until you have a chance to do your research

> and feel sure about your decision.

>

> -Tina

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Thank God that my Son's Pediatricians with Fudge it for me..

They do not feel it is necessary to give them all of these shots EVERY YEAR!

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[Guest guest]

>

> Thank God that my Son's Pediatricians with Fudge it for me..

> They do not feel it is necessary to give them all of these shots EVERY YEAR!

>

>

So what is your plan if some year the pediatrician feels a little extra pressure

from the

insurance company or a pHARMa rep buys him lunch just before your visit and says

he is

not going to " fudge " it for you anymore? Or you get a job in another city and

have to

change pediatrician?

Not trying to be snarky....just curious.

[Guest guest]

I got the big vaccine lecture from the surgeon today.

My daughter has cochlear implants and her chances of getting

meningitis are much higher than ordinary kids. If she does get

meningitis, and gets very sick, then they have to take her cochlear

implants out and can't put them back in. This would be a huge

tragedy. She is deaf and her implants make it so she can hear - and

she is growing like a normal kid, going to mainstream kindergarten

next year.

She doesn't seem to have a leaky gut. she does seem to have gut

disbiosis/yeast. she has a vaginal yeast infection now from her last

antibiotics (because of surgery - I don't know how to avoid those) her

feet are all flaky - something fugal is happening there.

I'd like to really have a go at fixing up her gut. and then maybe do

the vaccine. I am scared to do it and scared not to.

And which plan do i go with the fix her up? Do really think all the

fruit on the diets actually works? Even the kefir, I am suspect of.

I've been doing a candida diet on myself that is fairly extreme. (no

fruits, milk products except butter, no grains, no nuts, very low

carb.) I was eating kefir, still on the diet and I know it was

holding me back. I just don't know how to get my little " picky "

eater through school lunches and snacks. Part of me is even

entertaining the idea of keeping her from school.

How do you deal with birthday parties at school? (I can already see

the tears)

To vaccinate, to not vaccinate. Which diet to help her with? This is

all so stressful!!! (She has had a couple of vaccines and has not had

specific reactions. Except she is scoring low on IQ tests and seems

slow sometimes and I worry that her gut could have something to do

with it.)

Any insight?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hard decision... I think considering all the factors, if I were you, I would seek a professional opinion from Dr. McBride or Dr. Cowan. You can do a phone consultation with either one of them.Ann Marie

[Guest guest]

,

Tough choices. Our daughter is hearing impaired, as well, but she just

wears aids. I can't imagine risking losing her hearing more... I

agree with Ann Marie about getting a professional opinion on the

risks/benefits of your choices.

We have started using S.Boulardii for yeast infections.

http://www.giprohealth.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD & Store_Code=GIProHealth & Product_Code=SBoulardii & Category_Code=probiotics

It seems to be helping, but, honestly, it is still too early to tell.

The GAPS diet is very do-able for children (both of mine are on it), so

might be a choice if you don't want her to do the super restrictive

anti-yeast diet. Birthday parties and other social situations are

manageable, once you have it in your mind that this is what you are

committed to.

It might help your stress to remember that the diet choice is not an

irreversible decision--you can pick a diet, try it, and see how she

does. If you don't get the response you had hoped for, you can try a

different diet, or modify the diet you are working with. A

food/symptom journal is very helpful, too.

HTH,

Gomez wrote:

I got the big vaccine lecture from the surgeon today.

My daughter has cochlear implants and her chances of getting

meningitis are much higher than ordinary kids. If she does get

meningitis, and gets very sick, then they have to take her cochlear

implants out and can't put them back in. This would be a huge

tragedy. She is deaf and her implants make it so she can hear - and

she is growing like a normal kid, going to mainstream kindergarten

next year.

She doesn't seem to have a leaky gut. she does seem to have gut

disbiosis/yeast. she has a vaginal yeast infection now from her last

antibiotics (because of surgery - I don't know how to avoid those) her

feet are all flaky - something fugal is happening there.

I'd like to really have a go at fixing up her gut. and then maybe do

the vaccine. I am scared to do it and scared not to.

And which plan do i go with the fix her up? Do really think all the

fruit on the diets actually works? Even the kefir, I am suspect of.

I've been doing a candida diet on myself that is fairly extreme. (no

fruits, milk products except butter, no grains, no nuts, very low

carb.) I was eating kefir, still on the diet and I know it was

holding me back. I just don't know how to get my little "picky"

eater through school lunches and snacks. Part of me is even

entertaining the idea of keeping her from school.

How do you deal with birthday parties at school? (I can already see

the tears)

To vaccinate, to not vaccinate. Which diet to help her with? This is

all so stressful!!! (She has had a couple of vaccines and has not had

specific reactions. Except she is scoring low on IQ tests and seems

slow sometimes and I worry that her gut could have something to do

with it.)

Any insight?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:03 AM, Maureen <motherhenof9@...> wrote:

Well, , the answer seems quite easy to me: if you don't want her body messed up further, definitely do *not* vaccinate! I can not stress it enough! One of the problems with vaccinations is that they do mess up the gut, as well as the immune system and the brain.

Have you guys listened to the recording of Dr. McBride at the 07 conference? I just ordered it from the WAPF website and I was listening to it yesterday. It's really interesting. What she said about Wakefield blew me away. Apparently when he looked at the digestive systems of autistic children, he found lymph nodes that were full of penicillin -- he tested it and it was the same penicillin from the vaccinations they had had. She said right after that the govt came down on him and he is now unemployable in Britain.

The point was that if there is not enough good flora in the digestive tract, the body cannot get rid of the toxins. So it is very dangerous to vaccinate when there is not proper gut flora. She also says that when the body has good gut flora, it will kill ANYTHING that is not supposed to be there.

Vaccinations make drug companies LOTS of money. The drug companies compensate the insurance companies and the insurance companies compensate the doctors. Nobody realizes what is behind it all. The drug companies and insurance companies make it sound like they are doing all of this for the good of the community. But the reality is, it's about money. The problem is, just because you are vaccinated does not mean you will not catch the disease.

As to the meningitis scare, these things are always blown out of proportion by the medical community. I would take it with a grain of salt and know that I was doing the best thing for my child by avoiding all vaccinations.

I agree. My doctor (ahem -- former doctor) made whooping cough sound like the common cold.I just looked up meningitis in a book I got from the library -- I

recommend you get your hands on this book -- it's called " How to Raise

a Healthy Child In Spite of Your Doctor " by Dr. Robt Mendelsohn, MD.

Meningitis is discussed on p. 225-26.

He basically says that early diagnosis of meningitis is key. Symptoms

are: unexplained fever for 3 or 4 days, accompanied by drowsiness,

vomiting, a shrill cry, and possibly a stiff neck. He said meningitis

looks a lot like the flu -- but you can distinguish it by the stiff

neck and shrill cry. Particularly the shrill cry he says. If your child

has these symptoms he says to insist that s/he be tested for meningitis

including having a spinal tap. He says many doctors miss the signs of

meningitis and do not test for it so you need to insist if you see this

combination of symptoms.He also says that antibiotics (not vaccinations) are responsible for reducing mortality from this disease by 95%.

As to social woes, we homeschool so don't have the frequency of conflicts that some have, but I always make alternative foods for my kids which are complimentary to what would be served at a party or other gathering. This way they don't feel left out, can have their goodies, and are satisfied. Most of the parents understand, and for those who don't-too bad! These are my kids and I will take care of them!

My husband and I have come to the same conclusion. We have decided that will homeschool/tutor or send our children to Waldorf schools. Nutrition and food is just one reason -- there are many others.

Ann Marie

[Guest guest]

OK I had not had my coffee before I wrote this.... I said penicillin and I *meant* to say measles virus. Wakefield found measles virus in the lymph nodes of the autistic children.Ann Marie

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:13 AM, <inasnit@...> wrote:

Have you guys listened to the recording of Dr. McBride at the 07 conference? I just ordered it from the WAPF website and I was listening to it yesterday. It's really interesting. What she said about Wakefield blew me away. Apparently when he looked at the digestive systems of autistic children, he found lymph nodes that were full of penicillin -- he tested it and it was the same penicillin from the vaccinations they had had. She said right after that the govt came down on him and he is now unemployable in Britain.

[Guest guest]

I just was wondering if anyone knows of a non vaxed child who has gotten

chickenpox or measles as a

teenager or adult.  Is it as deadly as I have read as an adult or teenager?

Alaska Gov Proclaims Infant Immunization week

http://www.gov. state.ak. us/archive. php?id=967 & type=6

I just thought this was interesting being that Gov. Palin just

gave birth to a beautiful little boy last month who has Downs Syndrome.

I am wondering if she is going to inject him with 50+ Vaccinations now ?

Perhaps we can inquire / educate ?

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[Guest guest]

I am actually trying to get the chickenpox or measles as part of an anti

vaccine documentary I am doing, I think it might be slightly worse but I

am in really good health so I think that will keep it from being too bad.

A broken down immune system is what makes a person get sicker, not their

age.

jen leahy wrote:

>

> I just was wondering if anyone knows of a non vaxed child who has

> gotten chickenpox or measles as a

> teenager or adult. Is it as deadly as I have read as an adult or

> teenager?

>

> Alaska Gov Proclaims Infant Immunization week

>

> http://www.gov. state.ak. us/archive. php?id=967 & type=6

>

> I just thought this was interesting being that Gov. Palin just

> gave birth to a beautiful little boy last month who has Downs Syndrome.

> I am wondering if she is going to inject him with 50+ Vaccinations now ?

> Perhaps we can inquire / educate ?

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jen, I had a friend in his early 20s who contracted chicken pox. I wouldn't

have a clue what his vaccination status would have been though, except he

wouldn't be vaxed for CP, cause it didn't exist. He suffered a lot of

discomfort. But no complications. It didn't seem to be any worse than a child

would have been. Except a little harder to deal with due to being an adult, who

often burnt the candle at both ends, and would have been run down because of it.

I was sharing a house with him at the time, and wasn't sure if I might catch it.

I couldn't remember if I had had it as a child. I didn't make any attempt to

avoid catching it, but didn't anyway.

I have since found my childhood records, which say I had had chicken pox,

measles and mumps. I will have to have a good look at it. Because I did

receive some vaccines. It would be interesting to see if anything I was vaxed

for, I caught.

Fieldman

Alaska Gov Proclaims Infant Immunization week

http://www.gov. state.ak. us/archive. php?id=967 & type=6

I just thought this was interesting being that Gov. Palin just

gave birth to a beautiful little boy last month who has Downs Syndrome.

I am wondering if she is going to inject him with 50+ Vaccinations now ?

Perhaps we can inquire / educate ?

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[Guest guest]

I might actually be getting chickenpox due to the fact I was exposed a

few weeks back and I have been feeling rather ill (and quite moody) off

and on over the last few days.

The thing I am confused about is I have no fever as of yet.

I am not worried in the least about how serious it might be because I

work really hard to have a strong immune system. I am going to be

exposed again today in hopes I get a decent case so that I can use this

as part of my documentary.

Does anyone ion here know if it is normal for pox to come on an adult

this slowly?

I will keep everyone updated if I come down with the chickenpox.

Fieldman wrote:

>

> Hi Jen, I had a friend in his early 20s who contracted chicken pox. I

> wouldn't have a clue what his vaccination status would have been

> though, except he wouldn't be vaxed for CP, cause it didn't exist. He

> suffered a lot of discomfort. But no complications. It didn't seem to

> be any worse than a child would have been. Except a little harder to

> deal with due to being an adult, who often burnt the candle at both

> ends, and would have been run down because of it. I was sharing a

> house with him at the time, and wasn't sure if I might catch it. I

> couldn't remember if I had had it as a child. I didn't make any

> attempt to avoid catching it, but didn't anyway.

>

> I have since found my childhood records, which say I had had chicken

> pox, measles and mumps. I will have to have a good look at it. Because

> I did receive some vaccines. It would be interesting to see if

> anything I was vaxed for, I caught.

>

> Fieldman

>

> Alaska Gov Proclaims Infant Immunization week

>

> http://www.gov. state.ak. us/archive. php?id=967 & type=6

>

> I just thought this was interesting being that Gov. Palin just

> gave birth to a beautiful little boy last month who has Downs Syndrome.

> I am wondering if she is going to inject him with 50+ Vaccinations now ?

> Perhaps we can inquire / educate ?

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[Guest guest]

I have a friend who got chicken pox as an adult (no vaccines existed). She was

covered from head to toe but recovered just fine. I don't know of anyone who

ever had measles, as a child or as an adult and I grew up in the 1950's--pre

measles vax.

Winnie

Alaska Gov Proclaims Infant Immunization week

>

>

> http://www.gov. state.ak. us/archive. php?id=967 & type=6

>

> I just thought this was interesting being that Gov. Palin

> just

> gave birth to a beautiful little boy last month who has Downs

> Syndrome.

> I am wondering if she is going to inject him with 50+

> Vaccinations now ?

> Perhaps we can inquire / educate ?

>

>

>

>

>

>

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My friend had chicken pox in college (19) back in 1990.  She stayed in her room

and we delivered her classwork.  Spots but no problems, just had to get thru it.

diane

Re: vaccine question

Posted by: " jen leahy " jenleahy@...   jenleahy

Wed May 7, 2008 8:04 pm (PDT)

I just was wondering if anyone knows of a non vaxed child who has gotten

chickenpox or measles as a

teenager or adult.  Is it as deadly as I have read as an adult or teenager?

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My brother got the chicken pox when he was 22 in the army in Germany. He said

it was painful and uncomfortable but other than that, he is now 40 and doing

pretty well...

[Guest guest]

My cousin had chicken pox at 18. She was fine and there were no

complications.

>

> My friend had chicken pox in college (19) back in 1990.  She stayed

in her room and we delivered her classwork.  Spots but no problems,

just had to get thru it.

> diane

> Re: vaccine question

> Posted by: " jen leahy " jenleahy@...   jenleahy

> Wed May 7, 2008 8:04 pm (PDT)

> I just was wondering if anyone knows of a non vaxed child who has

gotten chickenpox or measles as a

> teenager or adult.  Is it as deadly as I have read as an adult or

teenager?

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jen --

I'm 48 years old and I had chicken pox at age 16 and I had measles while in

college. Other than missing school/college, neither was an issue.

By the way, I was repeatedly exposed as a child (my Mom believed in sending

us to play with other kids or had these diseases so we could get them as

kids), but the only one I got as a kid was mumps.

Health & blessings,

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On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:03 PM, jen leahy <jenleahy@...> wrote:

> I just was wondering if anyone knows of a non vaxed child who has gotten

> chickenpox or measles as a

> teenager or adult. Is it as deadly as I have read as an adult or teenager?

>

>

> Alaska Gov Proclaims Infant Immunization week

>

>

> http://www.gov. state.ak. us/archive. php?id=967 & type=6

>

> I just thought this was interesting being that Gov. Palin just

> gave birth to a beautiful little boy last month who has Downs Syndrome.

> I am wondering if she is going to inject him with 50+ Vaccinations now ?

> Perhaps we can inquire / educate ?

>

[Guest guest]

How bad were the measles? I know so many people are scared to death of them.

P wrote:

>

> Hi Jen --

>

> I'm 48 years old and I had chicken pox at age 16 and I had measles

> while in

> college. Other than missing school/college, neither was an issue.

>

> By the way, I was repeatedly exposed as a child (my Mom believed in

> sending

> us to play with other kids or had these diseases so we could get them as

> kids), but the only one I got as a kid was mumps.

>

> Health & blessings,

>

>

> *We believe cleaning house shouldn't involve dirtying the Earth!

> *http://www.shaklee.net/EcoClean/getclean

> <http://www.shaklee.net/EcoClean/getclean>

>

> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

>

> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:03 PM, jen leahy <jenleahy@...

> <mailto:jenleahy%40>> wrote:

>

> > I just was wondering if anyone knows of a non vaxed child who has gotten

> > chickenpox or measles as a

> > teenager or adult. Is it as deadly as I have read as an adult or

> teenager?

> >

> >

> > Alaska Gov Proclaims Infant Immunization week

> >

> >

> > http://www.gov. state.ak. us/archive. php?id=967 & type=6

> >

> > I just thought this was interesting being that Gov. Palin just

> > gave birth to a beautiful little boy last month who has Downs Syndrome.

> > I am wondering if she is going to inject him with 50+ Vaccinations now ?

> > Perhaps we can inquire / educate ?

> >

>

>