Re: towels, clothes and toys

[Guest guest]

wow, this scenario sounds like my house. everyone here thinks i am a neat

freak--and i am so far from that. i just don't like the house overrun with

things and not able to find things because it wasn't put away.

anyhow, one thing that helped with megan about overusing things (tissue, towels,

etc.) is the friend to earth concept. she loves nature and animals and so i

approach using too much of these things as being unfriendly to the planet and

animals. tissue takes up trees, towels uses precious resources. you will need

to know if this approach can have an opposite effect, in that you will then be

dealing with why it is okay if you use one tissue to blow your nose.

my aspie husband is a horder also. after many years of working with this, i

finally gave up and let him have the bedroom. there is stuff stacked high in

there. he has adjusted to not leaving things all around the house except on

weekends, when he claims every table top and throws papers everywhere. i have

had to practice looking the other way.

bye, mel

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> How do you manage your disorganized, collector AS child. What can I do that

would be effective? She is 11.

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> My daughter takes clean towels (if not under constant watch)

> and lays them out in the bathroom and gives her dolls a spa.

> My response: I lock the towels up and parcel them out.

> Something about this seems wierd on my part. But she won't

> stop. As a toddler I had to put toliet paper out of sight :-)

> Oh and she use to take all the kleenex out of a box. She is over that

> thank goodness.

>

> My daughter's room is a constant mess. And she panics that

> she can't find her clothes.

> My response: I keep many (not all) of her clean clothes in my

> room so we always have some for the next morning and not have

> a big drama. I just can't keep up with all her disorder and

> every evening it is so hard to get her to brush here teeth and

> get in her pjs.

>

> My daughter has her pets in everyroom even the kitchen she is

> a hoarder and taking over the house. My husband has the

> basement and out bedroom and she has other rooms. I am getting

> squeezed into a small spare room by this too. I again lock her

> toys and collections in a room we keep toys in periodically

> when it gets out of control. And I don't let her take things

> out until we get it under control.

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>

> Does anyone have any ideas how to get control over there

> expolsive collecting and disorder?

>

> What do you think of my strategy to try and maintain order

> by cutting her off of things she doesn't put away.

>

> I do try to reserve Saturday to have them both help me clean

> up somethings. But it is never ever enough time.

>

> thanks for your ideas.

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

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> How do you manage your disorganized, collector AS child. What can I do that

would be effective? She is 11.

I don't think I have any great ideas to offer, but I can say that this won't

last much longer. By the time she is my kids' age, 14, she won't be playing

with " toys " any longer, and most of this problem will go away. It is kind of a

gradual thing, but I would say within a year or two, you will be starting to get

out of this stage. You'll still have organizational issues with her, but it

will be nothing like with the toys. She'll refuse to get rid of things for

awhile, but as time goes by, she'll lose her attachment and you'll start to be

able to get rid of the stuff!

I think you have to parcel things out if she can't ration herself and causes too

much work. Maybe it feels weird because it isn't the way a typical parent would

do it. With a typical child, you can teach them to use things one at a time (or

close to it), but that really just doesn't happen with many of our aspies, or at

least not at the typical age. All I can say is that you certainly aren't alone

on this list. And maybe think about it in terms of an immaturity--she isn't

ready to do this on her own yet, but hopefully she will some day. With my son

it has been a slow process of him finally noticing that he is annoyed when he

can't find something, to wanting me to take care of things. Now I guess we are

at the stage where we need to start working on him taking care of things

himself.

One of our cats just got lost, and he has been very responsible--making a sign,

hanging it up all over, and looking for her a little. Not unusual for a typical

14yo, but kind of a big deal for him. He also initiates feeding the cats (we

have/had two) and making sure they are in at night. He tells me not to pet them

too hard. So, he will initiate taking care of things if he sees the need.

Point being, so will your daughter. If we could just get them to care about

more things. I'm trying to teach my kids about how cats build larger

territories and wander further the more time they spend outside, so maybe they

need to keep the cats in more.

Ruth

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> My daughter takes clean towels (if not under constant watch)

> and lays them out in the bathroom and gives her dolls a spa.

> My response: I lock the towels up and parcel them out.

> Something about this seems wierd on my part. But she won't

> stop. As a toddler I had to put toliet paper out of sight :-)

> Oh and she use to take all the kleenex out of a box. She is over that

> thank goodness.

>

> My daughter's room is a constant mess. And she panics that

> she can't find her clothes.

> My response: I keep many (not all) of her clean clothes in my

> room so we always have some for the next morning and not have

> a big drama. I just can't keep up with all her disorder and

> every evening it is so hard to get her to brush here teeth and

> get in her pjs.

>

> My daughter has her pets in everyroom even the kitchen she is

> a hoarder and taking over the house. My husband has the

> basement and out bedroom and she has other rooms. I am getting

> squeezed into a small spare room by this too. I again lock her

> toys and collections in a room we keep toys in periodically

> when it gets out of control. And I don't let her take things

> out until we get it under control.

>

>

> Does anyone have any ideas how to get control over there

> expolsive collecting and disorder?

>

> What do you think of my strategy to try and maintain order

> by cutting her off of things she doesn't put away.

>

> I do try to reserve Saturday to have them both help me clean

> up somethings. But it is never ever enough time.

>

> thanks for your ideas.

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

Melody thanks for sharing this with me, it is amazing the similarites.

Pam

> >

> > How do you manage your disorganized, collector AS child. What can I do that

would be effective? She is 11.

> >

> > My daughter takes clean towels (if not under constant watch)

> > and lays them out in the bathroom and gives her dolls a spa.

> > My response: I lock the towels up and parcel them out.

> > Something about this seems wierd on my part. But she won't

> > stop. As a toddler I had to put toliet paper out of sight :-)

> > Oh and she use to take all the kleenex out of a box. She is over that

> > thank goodness.

> >

> > My daughter's room is a constant mess. And she panics that

> > she can't find her clothes.

> > My response: I keep many (not all) of her clean clothes in my

> > room so we always have some for the next morning and not have

> > a big drama. I just can't keep up with all her disorder and

> > every evening it is so hard to get her to brush here teeth and

> > get in her pjs.

> >

> > My daughter has her pets in everyroom even the kitchen she is

> > a hoarder and taking over the house. My husband has the

> > basement and out bedroom and she has other rooms. I am getting

> > squeezed into a small spare room by this too. I again lock her

> > toys and collections in a room we keep toys in periodically

> > when it gets out of control. And I don't let her take things

> > out until we get it under control.

> >

> >

> > Does anyone have any ideas how to get control over there

> > expolsive collecting and disorder?

> >

> > What do you think of my strategy to try and maintain order

> > by cutting her off of things she doesn't put away.

> >

> > I do try to reserve Saturday to have them both help me clean

> > up somethings. But it is never ever enough time.

> >

> > thanks for your ideas.

> >

> > Pam

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Ruth so much. You are very reassuring! I know you are right

I remember her fasination with toliet paper as a preschooler

she thought it was so great to unroll a whole roll.

I do get overwhelmed with all her issues and start to panic that

I am not doing enough skill building in an area.

Thanks again! I hope you are having a good summer.

Pam

> >

> > How do you manage your disorganized, collector AS child. What can I do that

would be effective? She is 11.

>

> I don't think I have any great ideas to offer, but I can say that this won't

last much longer. By the time she is my kids' age, 14, she won't be playing

with " toys " any longer, and most of this problem will go away. It is kind of a

gradual thing, but I would say within a year or two, you will be starting to get

out of this stage. You'll still have organizational issues with her, but it

will be nothing like with the toys. She'll refuse to get rid of things for

awhile, but as time goes by, she'll lose her attachment and you'll start to be

able to get rid of the stuff!

>

> I think you have to parcel things out if she can't ration herself and causes

too much work. Maybe it feels weird because it isn't the way a typical parent

would do it. With a typical child, you can teach them to use things one at a

time (or close to it), but that really just doesn't happen with many of our

aspies, or at least not at the typical age. All I can say is that you certainly

aren't alone on this list. And maybe think about it in terms of an

immaturity--she isn't ready to do this on her own yet, but hopefully she will

some day. With my son it has been a slow process of him finally noticing that

he is annoyed when he can't find something, to wanting me to take care of

things. Now I guess we are at the stage where we need to start working on him

taking care of things himself.

>

> One of our cats just got lost, and he has been very responsible--making a

sign, hanging it up all over, and looking for her a little. Not unusual for a

typical 14yo, but kind of a big deal for him. He also initiates feeding the

cats (we have/had two) and making sure they are in at night. He tells me not to

pet them too hard. So, he will initiate taking care of things if he sees

the need. Point being, so will your daughter. If we could just get them to

care about more things. I'm trying to teach my kids about how cats build larger

territories and wander further the more time they spend outside, so maybe they

need to keep the cats in more.

>

> Ruth

>

>

> >

> > My daughter takes clean towels (if not under constant watch)

> > and lays them out in the bathroom and gives her dolls a spa.

> > My response: I lock the towels up and parcel them out.

> > Something about this seems wierd on my part. But she won't

> > stop. As a toddler I had to put toliet paper out of sight :-)

> > Oh and she use to take all the kleenex out of a box. She is over that

> > thank goodness.

> >

> > My daughter's room is a constant mess. And she panics that

> > she can't find her clothes.

> > My response: I keep many (not all) of her clean clothes in my

> > room so we always have some for the next morning and not have

> > a big drama. I just can't keep up with all her disorder and

> > every evening it is so hard to get her to brush here teeth and

> > get in her pjs.

> >

> > My daughter has her pets in everyroom even the kitchen she is

> > a hoarder and taking over the house. My husband has the

> > basement and out bedroom and she has other rooms. I am getting

> > squeezed into a small spare room by this too. I again lock her

> > toys and collections in a room we keep toys in periodically

> > when it gets out of control. And I don't let her take things

> > out until we get it under control.

> >

> >

> > Does anyone have any ideas how to get control over there

> > expolsive collecting and disorder?

> >

> > What do you think of my strategy to try and maintain order

> > by cutting her off of things she doesn't put away.

> >

> > I do try to reserve Saturday to have them both help me clean

> > up somethings. But it is never ever enough time.

> >

> > thanks for your ideas.

> >

> > Pam

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think I would try some organization techniques such as, doing a big clean up where everything gets a place (labeled.) Then I would work with her to put away as she goes along throughout the day. Yes, you might have to really hover for a while - maybe check on her each half hour or hour or whatever will work. Help her clean up her current mess or one she's already leaving behind. Try to have her do most things. But again, I don't know if she has trouble knowing "how" to clean up. So you might have to walk her through it by saying, "Now put all the crayons in the box." "Now put the crayon box on the shelf" etc.

If she is a visual learner, you can take a picture of how things look when they are neat and tidy and stick it in that spot. It sometimes helps to show, "This is what it looks like when it is cleaned up." Sometimes "cleaned up" doesn't mean anything to them. Or they can't remember how it looked or is supposed to look.

Also, I would limit what she gets overall. If she has too much stuff, then weed through it.

If she wants to have a spa, set up a limit of how many times per week (1? 2?) and then let her have at it. But of course, after this spa is over with, she will be expected to actively clean up the mess and learn how to throw the towels into the laundry. You can even teach folding towels. Praise a LOT (WOW! You remembered where the crayon box belongs! yeah!)

I think taking her things away has proven to not work as a way of handling it. So I wouldn't keep doing it. As for her room, you might have a night time routine/checklist. Then every evening before bed, put books back on the shelves, paper on the desk, dirty clothes in the laundry (check it off as you go...walk through it with her until she learns the routine.)

And also remember that it might take a long long time before she starts using any organizational skills so she will need a lot of support and cues from you.

Roxanna

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

( ) towels, clothes and toys

How do you manage your disorganized, collector AS child. What can I do that would be effective? She is 11.

My daughter takes clean towels (if not under constant watch)

and lays them out in the bathroom and gives her dolls a spa.

My response: I lock the towels up and parcel them out.

Something about this seems wierd on my part. But she won't

stop. As a toddler I had to put toliet paper out of sight :-)

Oh and she use to take all the kleenex out of a box. She is over that

thank goodness.

My daughter's room is a constant mess. And she panics that

she can't find her clothes.

My response: I keep many (not all) of her clean clothes in my

room so we always have some for the next morning and not have

a big drama. I just can't keep up with all her disorder and

every evening it is so hard to get her to brush here teeth and

get in her pjs.

My daughter has her pets in everyroom even the kitchen she is

a hoarder and taking over the house. My husband has the

basement and out bedroom and she has other rooms. I am getting

squeezed into a small spare room by this too. I again lock her

toys and collections in a room we keep toys in periodically

when it gets out of control. And I don't let her take things

out until we get it under control.

Does anyone have any ideas how to get control over there

expolsive collecting and disorder?

What do you think of my strategy to try and maintain order

by cutting her off of things she doesn't put away.

I do try to reserve Saturday to have them both help me clean

up somethings. But it is never ever enough time.

thanks for your ideas.

Pam

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[Guest guest]

Roxanna thanks so much. You are right taking things away has not helped. I quess

I have to schedule in this clean up time and stop

her compulsive interests that are taking up all her time.

I think what is also happening is that she is doing too much

activity in the evening (and throughout the day if she is home).

We do have a place for things.

We do have a schedule but we never keep to it.

3-5pm Her free time

5-6pm dinner

6-7pm pet care or homework (school)

7-8pm hygiene

8-10pm relax and sleep

But this never happens.

We always get to dinner at 5pm this is good.

6 -7 is always 6-8pm if she is playing with pets.

7-8 hygiene is always 8-10pm she is getting cleaned up but it takes

so long and she watches too much TV after the hygiene

time (as a reward).

The other problem I guess she is a collector/hoarder and

has way too much stuff. So anything she takes out is alot to put away.

So these boundaries especially starting after dinner

are way out of bounds. She is doing too much in the

evening. And watching too much TV and computer too.

thanks for helping me think this thru.

Pam

>

>

> I think I would try some organization techniques such as, doing a big clean

up where everything gets a place (labeled.)? Then I would work with her to put

away as she goes along throughout the day.? Yes, you might have to really hover

for a while - maybe check on her each half hour or hour or whatever will work.?

Help her clean up her current mess or one she's already leaving behind.? Try to

have her do most things.? But again, I don't know if she has trouble knowing

" how " to clean up.? So you might have to walk her through it by saying, " Now put

all the crayons in the box. " ? " Now put the crayon box on the shelf " etc.?

>

> If she is a visual learner, you can take a picture of how things look when

they are neat and tidy and stick it in that spot.? It sometimes helps to show,

" This is what it looks like when it is cleaned up. " ? Sometimes " cleaned up "

doesn't mean anything to them.? Or they can't remember how it looked or is

supposed to look.?

>

> Also, I would limit what she gets overall.? If she has too much stuff, then

weed through it.?

>

> If she wants to have a spa, set up a limit of how many times per week (1? 2?)

and then let her have at it.? But of course, after this spa is over with, she

will be expected to actively clean up the mess and learn how to throw the towels

into the laundry.? You can even teach folding towels.? Praise a LOT (WOW!? You

remembered where the crayon box belongs!? yeah!)?

>

> I think taking her things away has proven to not work as a way of handling it.

So I wouldn't keep doing it.? As for her room, you might have a night time

routine/checklist.? Then every evening before bed, put books back on the

shelves, paper on the desk, dirty clothes in the laundry (check it off as you

go...walk through it with her until she learns the routine.)

>

> And also remember that it might take a long long time before she starts using

any organizational skills so she will need a lot of support and cues from you.?

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> My daughter takes clean towels (if not under constant watch)

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> and lays them out in the bathroom and gives her dolls a spa.

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> My response: I lock the towels up and parcel them out.

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> Something about this seems wierd on my part. But she won't

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> stop. As a toddler I had to put toliet paper out of sight :-)

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> Oh and she use to take all the kleenex out of a box. She is over that

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> thank goodness.

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> My daughter's room is a constant mess. And she panics that

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> she can't find her clothes.

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> My response: I keep many (not all) of her clean clothes in my

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> room so we always have some for the next morning and not have

>

> a big drama. I just can't keep up with all her disorder and

>

> every evening it is so hard to get her to brush here teeth and

>

> get in her pjs.

>

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>

> My daughter has her pets in everyroom even the kitchen she is

>

> a hoarder and taking over the house. My husband has the

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> basement and out bedroom and she has other rooms. I am getting

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> squeezed into a small spare room by this too. I again lock her

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> toys and collections in a room we keep toys in periodically

>

> when it gets out of control. And I don't let her take things

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> out until we get it under control.

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> Does anyone have any ideas how to get control over there

>

> expolsive collecting and disorder?

>

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>

> What do you think of my strategy to try and maintain order

>

> by cutting her off of things she doesn't put away.

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> I do try to reserve Saturday to have them both help me clean

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> up somethings. But it is never ever enough time.

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> thanks for your ideas.

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> Pam

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[Guest guest]

yes i agree Roxanna, my son who is 11 with AS if you just tell him to clean up he just stands there looking as if he is lost or confused and he will become very frustrated if he doesnt understand the instruction given, we have learned if we want joshua to clean we have to be very specific, ie put crayons in box , box goes on top shelf with color books. or pick up your dirty clothes, now place them in the hamper. put your shoes in the closet. he can do it if he is given clear directions the vague ones like rake the yard a too hard for him, because he doesnt know where to begin and it becomes very overwhelming to him. i still have to remind him to get clean clothes before he takes a bath/shower. I had charts to help list chores for him but they keep getting lost . i thought about making

other ones for bathroom but didnt want to raise him to be relying on charts to do "natural things" like the bathroom, so i just remind him, do you think that is just as effective? because i am telling you he would have charts all over the house, i have to give him step by step directions most of the time or it doesnt get done by him. sherryFrom: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:20:51 PMSubject:

Re: ( ) towels, clothes and toys

I think I would try some organization techniques such as, doing a big clean up where everything gets a place (labeled.) Then I would work with her to put away as she goes along throughout the day. Yes, you might have to really hover for a while - maybe check on her each half hour or hour or whatever will work. Help her clean up her current mess or one she's already leaving behind. Try to have her do most things. But again, I don't know if she has trouble knowing "how" to clean up. So you might have to walk her through it by saying, "Now put all the crayons in the box." "Now put the crayon box on the shelf" etc.

If she is a visual learner, you can take a picture of how things look when they are neat and tidy and stick it in that spot. It sometimes helps to show, "This is what it looks like when it is cleaned up." Sometimes "cleaned up" doesn't mean anything to them. Or they can't remember how it looked or is supposed to look.

Also, I would limit what she gets overall. If she has too much stuff, then weed through it.

If she wants to have a spa, set up a limit of how many times per week (1? 2?) and then let her have at it. But of course, after this spa is over with, she will be expected to actively clean up the mess and learn how to throw the towels into the laundry. You can even teach folding towels. Praise a LOT (WOW! You remembered where the crayon box belongs! yeah!)

I think taking her things away has proven to not work as a way of handling it. So I wouldn't keep doing it. As for her room, you might have a night time routine/checklist. Then every evening before bed, put books back on the shelves, paper on the desk, dirty clothes in the laundry (check it off as you go...walk through it with her until she learns the routine.)

And also remember that it might take a long long time before she starts using any organizational skills so she will need a lot of support and cues from you.

Roxanna

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

( ) towels, clothes and toys

How do you manage your disorganized, collector AS child. What can I do that would be effective? She is 11.

My daughter takes clean towels (if not under constant watch)

and lays them out in the bathroom and gives her dolls a spa.

My response: I lock the towels up and parcel them out.

Something about this seems wierd on my part. But she won't

stop. As a toddler I had to put toliet paper out of sight :-)

Oh and she use to take all the kleenex out of a box. She is over that

thank goodness.

My daughter's room is a constant mess. And she panics that

she can't find her clothes.

My response: I keep many (not all) of her clean clothes in my

room so we always have some for the next morning and not have

a big drama. I just can't keep up with all her disorder and

every evening it is so hard to get her to brush here teeth and

get in her pjs.

My daughter has her pets in everyroom even the kitchen she is

a hoarder and taking over the house. My husband has the

basement and out bedroom and she has other rooms. I am getting

squeezed into a small spare room by this too. I again lock her

toys and collections in a room we keep toys in periodically

when it gets out of control. And I don't let her take things

out until we get it under control.

Does anyone have any ideas how to get control over there

expolsive collecting and disorder?

What do you think of my strategy to try and maintain order

by cutting her off of things she doesn't put away.

I do try to reserve Saturday to have them both help me clean

up somethings. But it is never ever enough time.

thanks for your ideas.

Pam

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[Guest guest]

Let us know if anything helps. I know it's not easy. If it makes you feel any better, my oldest ds (now 20 yo, hfa) always kept his room a disaster area. He always had broken everything too. He took everything apart. He would not even allow things to be hung on the walls. He took everything down. In my house, I had nothing on the walls and no lamps because he went after those. It was years before we had light. lol. I had little hope. lol. But now he is fairly decent. He keeps his own room clean, vacuums it too. He does his own laundry. And he takes such great care of his stuff now, better than anyone I've ever met. He once decided he didn't like his PSP and wanted to sell it. Well, he even had the plastic sleeves that everything came in to repack it. I was like, "WOW, this is MY kid?" lol. I would have never bet money on that. lol.

Not saying you will find the same thing happens but it might. we dealt with one problem at a time. Just keep at it. Make small changes and take small baby steps. Hang in there!

Roxanna

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

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> My response: I lock the towels up and parcel them out.

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> Something about this seems wierd on my part. But she won't

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> My response: I keep many (not all) of her clean clothes in my

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> room so we always have some for the next morning and not have

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> a big drama. I just can't keep up with all her disorder and

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> every evening it is so hard to get her to brush here teeth and

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> get in her pjs.

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> My daughter has her pets in everyroom even the kitchen she is

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> a hoarder and taking over the house. My husband has the

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> basement and out bedroom and she has other rooms. I am getting

>

> squeezed into a small spare room by this too. I again lock her

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> toys and collections in a room we keep toys in periodically

>

> when it gets out of control. And I don't let her take things

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> out until we get it under control.

>

>

>

>

>

> Does anyone have any ideas how to get control over there

>

> expolsive collecting and disorder?

>

>

>

> What do you think of my strategy to try and maintain order

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> by cutting her off of things she doesn't put away.

>

>

>

> I do try to reserve Saturday to have them both help me clean

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> up somethings. But it is never ever enough time.

>

>

>

> thanks for your ideas.

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>

>

> Pam

>

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I don't know if he will always need charts to do every day things. But I would put them up for now. You can fade them over time. I mean, as he gets used to a routine he will need the lists less and less naturally. He might need some for a while to jump start the process too. And if he grows up and needs a list to do things, well, he has the tools to use to be independent. I am a big list maker myself, lol. So I don't think they are that bad. Sometimes I make a list just to calm myself down if I am feeling overwhelmed. I can organize my thinking on paper that way.

Anyway, he will stop using the lists/charts when he can manage on his own and you can fade them out. Or, as he gets older, you can put less information on the list - just the basics and less detailed as he gets more capable. Fade the charts/lists as you go and praise when he can do it on his own. For more autistic kids, they will even make books for them with picture schedules to use - even how to play with toys step-by-step. It is a great tool to teach these skills and with a lot of practice, it can become a habit for him, which is what you want. We just have to realize that our kids will take longer to "outgrow" these things and some will need "helpers" for a long time, into adulthood even.

Roxanna

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

( ) towels, clothes and toys

How do you manage your disorganized, collector AS child. What can I do that would be effective? She is 11.

My daughter takes clean towels (if not under constant watch)

and lays them out in the bathroom and gives her dolls a spa.

My response: I lock the towels up and parcel them out.

Something about this seems wierd on my part. But she won't

stop. As a toddler I had to put toliet paper out of sight :-)

Oh and she use to take all the kleenex out of a box. She is over that

thank goodness.

My daughter's room is a constant mess. And she panics that

she can't find her clothes.

My response: I keep many (not all) of her clean clothes in my

room so we always have some for the next morning and not have

a big drama. I just can't keep up with all her disorder and

every evening it is so hard to get her to brush here teeth and

get in her pjs.

My daughter has her pets in everyroom even the kitchen she is

a hoarder and taking over the house. My husband has the

basement and out bedroom and she has other rooms. I am getting

squeezed into a small spare room by this too. I again lock her

toys and collections in a room we keep toys in periodically

when it gets out of control. And I don't let her take things

out until we get it under control.

Does anyone have any ideas how to get control over there

expolsive collecting and disorder?

What do you think of my strategy to try and maintain order

by cutting her off of things she doesn't put away.

I do try to reserve Saturday to have them both help me clean

up somethings. But it is never ever enough time.

thanks for your ideas.

Pam

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thanks, we will try again sherryFrom: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:48:21 PMSubject: Re: ( ) towels, clothes and toys

I don't know if he will always need charts to do every day things. But I would put them up for now. You can fade them over time. I mean, as he gets used to a routine he will need the lists less and less naturally. He might need some for a while to jump start the process too. And if he grows up and needs a list to do things, well, he has the tools to use to be independent. I am a big list maker myself, lol. So I don't think they are that bad. Sometimes I make a list just to calm myself down if I am feeling overwhelmed. I can organize my thinking on paper that way.

Anyway, he will stop using the lists/charts when he can manage on his own and you can fade them out. Or, as he gets older, you can put less information on the list - just the basics and less detailed as he gets more capable. Fade the charts/lists as you go and praise when he can do it on his own. For more autistic kids, they will even make books for them with picture schedules to use - even how to play with toys step-by-step. It is a great tool to teach these skills and with a lot of practice, it can become a habit for him, which is what you want. We just have to realize that our kids will take longer to "outgrow" these things and some will need "helpers" for a long time, into adulthood even.

Roxanna

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

( ) towels, clothes and toys

How do you manage your disorganized, collector AS child. What can I do that would be effective? She is 11.

My daughter takes clean towels (if not under constant watch)

and lays them out in the bathroom and gives her dolls a spa.

My response: I lock the towels up and parcel them out.

Something about this seems wierd on my part. But she won't

stop. As a toddler I had to put toliet paper out of sight :-)

Oh and she use to take all the kleenex out of a box. She is over that

thank goodness.

My daughter's room is a constant mess. And she panics that

she can't find her clothes.

My response: I keep many (not all) of her clean clothes in my

room so we always have some for the next morning and not have

a big drama. I just can't keep up with all her disorder and

every evening it is so hard to get her to brush here teeth and

get in her pjs.

My daughter has her pets in everyroom even the kitchen she is

a hoarder and taking over the house. My husband has the

basement and out bedroom and she has other rooms. I am getting

squeezed into a small spare room by this too. I again lock her

toys and collections in a room we keep toys in periodically

when it gets out of control. And I don't let her take things

out until we get it under control.

Does anyone have any ideas how to get control over there

expolsive collecting and disorder?

What do you think of my strategy to try and maintain order

by cutting her off of things she doesn't put away.

I do try to reserve Saturday to have them both help me clean

up somethings. But it is never ever enough time.

thanks for your ideas.

Pam

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