Re: Re: Are these things allowed?

[Guest guest]

Hi again, Judith,

It IS confusing to figure some of this out! The key to what carbs are included versus excluded seems to be related to the molecule structure (I'm not a scientist so excuse any errors in terminology), and whether something is a monosaccharide (allowed) vs. disaccharide (not allowed). I'm personally glad that winter squash, carrots, and fruit are allowed, because otherwise this diet would be impossible for us. (We just started today!)

My guess is that figs are okay, it seems like as long as fruit is fresh or dried without additives, it is okay. Ripe fruit is best.

In terms of a website that we can contact, the Gut Health person (Laurie) offered to answer any questions I might have, along these lines. However, I sent her a query about 3 weeks ago and she never wrote back. (I still want to know about kombucha and other items.) I'm wondering if folks on this list could compile a "master list" of all the items we have questions about, and then we could send Laurie a group email with our questions. What do others think?

For starters, here are some of my question marks:

Kombucha

The red algae in our Blue Ice cod liver oil

The canned coconut milk, how bad is it really???

Beverages fermented with whey

Others could add to this list, and then I'd be glad to send it off to Laurie.

[ ] Are these things allowed?> > > I have been on the GAPS diet for a few weeks, and on the no-gliadin > diet for a few months (it's almost identical). I only have the GAPS > book right now, so I need to know if these items are allowed in GAPS.> > chlorella> Kudzu/kuzu root powder> > I'm sure I'll have more questions like this! Do the other books have a > more extensive list of things allowed/not allowed? Which books do you > all recommend? > > Thanks!> > Judith>

[Guest guest]

>>Kombucha

The red algae in our Blue Ice cod liver oil

The canned coconut milk, how bad is it really???

Beverages fermented with whey<<

, There is at

least one brand of coconut milk without the guar gum but I don’t recall

the name. Nature “Something” in a green can, I think.

I would think that kombucha is out due to

the sugar and whey would be out as it may be contaminated with lactose.

Suze

[Guest guest]

I also have an email address for Dr. Natasha. I told her I was starting this email

list and she said she would support us. I imagine she doesn't have time to answer

individual emails regularly or participate regularly on this list. But I could also

send an email to her of our list of questions. I did get one question answered but

then I posed another one a few weeks ago and didn't hear back from her. I also imagine

she takes quite a bit of time off for the holidays since she's in the UK. So I might

hear back later. I was asking if pure organic maple syrup is ok. Its not on either list,

but is mentioned in the book in the regular text. Does anyone know?

Katy

On 1/1/08, Viadro <viadro@...

> wrote:

Hi again, Judith,

It IS confusing to figure some of this out! The key to what carbs are included versus excluded seems to be related to the molecule structure (I'm not a scientist so excuse any errors in terminology), and whether something is a monosaccharide (allowed) vs. disaccharide (not allowed). I'm personally glad that winter squash, carrots, and fruit are allowed, because otherwise this diet would be impossible for us. (We just started today!)

My guess is that figs are okay, it seems like as long as fruit is fresh or dried without additives, it is okay. Ripe fruit is best.

In terms of a website that we can contact, the Gut Health person (Laurie) offered to answer any questions I might have, along these lines. However, I sent her a query about 3 weeks ago and she never wrote back. (I still want to know about kombucha and other items.) I'm wondering if folks on this list could compile a " master list " of all the items we have questions about, and then we could send Laurie a group email with our questions. What do others think?

For starters, here are some of my question marks:

Kombucha

The red algae in our Blue Ice cod liver oil

The canned coconut milk, how bad is it really???

Beverages fermented with whey

Others could add to this list, and then I'd be glad to send it off to Laurie.

[ ] Are these things allowed?> > > I have been on the GAPS diet for a few weeks, and on the no-gliadin > diet for a few months (it's almost identical). I only have the GAPS > book right now, so I need to know if these items are allowed in GAPS.> > chlorella> Kudzu/kuzu root powder > > I'm sure I'll have more questions like this! Do the other books have a > more extensive list of things allowed/not allowed? Which books do you > all recommend? >

> Thanks!> > Judith>

[Guest guest]

Katy,

Maple syrup is a disaccharide and is not legal, organic or not.

Katy wrote:

I also have an email address for Dr. Natasha. I told her I was

starting this email

list and she said she would support us. I imagine she doesn't

have time to answer

individual emails regularly or participate regularly on this

list. But I could also

send an email to her of our list of questions. I did get one

question answered but

then I posed another one a few weeks ago and didn't hear back

from her. I also imagine

she takes quite a bit of time off for the holidays since she's

in the UK. So I might

hear back later. I was asking if pure organic maple syrup is ok.

Its not on either list,

but is mentioned in the book in the regular text. Does anyone

know?

Katy

On 1/1/08,

Viadro <viadromindspring

> wrote:

Hi again, Judith,

It IS confusing to figure some of this out! The

key to what carbs are included versus excluded seems to be related to

the molecule structure (I'm not a scientist so excuse any errors in

terminology), and whether something is a monosaccharide (allowed)

vs. disaccharide (not allowed). I'm personally glad that winter squash,

carrots, and fruit are allowed, because otherwise this diet would be

impossible for us. (We just started today!)

My guess is that figs are okay, it seems like

as long as fruit is fresh or dried without additives, it is okay. Ripe

fruit is best.

In terms of a website that we can contact, the

Gut Health person (Laurie) offered to answer any questions I might

have, along these lines. However, I sent her a query about 3 weeks ago

and she never wrote back. (I still want to know about kombucha and

other items.) I'm wondering if folks on this list could compile a

"master list" of all the items we have questions about, and then we

could send Laurie a group email with our questions. What do others

think?

For starters, here are some of my question

marks:

Kombucha

The red algae in our Blue Ice cod liver oil

The canned coconut milk, how bad is it really???

Beverages fermented with whey

Others could add to this list, and then I'd be

glad to send it off to Laurie.

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Original Message -----

From:

Judith

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Sent:

12/31/2007 10:25:34 AM

Subject:

[ ] Re: Are these things allowed?

I'm a bit confused, as there are some high carb and starchy

items

allowed in the GAPS book, such as winter squash, carrots and of

course fruits. So it seems that was are avoiding only a few,

specific sugars or carbs, and others are OK. My diet is complicated

because I'm trying to follow the no-gliadin diet also (from Dr.

Richie Shoemaker) and the two diets are almost identical, but not

quite. GAPS allows carrots; the other one does not, etc. So I

substitute winter squash.

What about figs? Prunes are OK for GAPS, but figs are not listed at

all. I have two fig trees.

I may just skip the chlorella for a while, although it's such a good

detoxifier. Is there a website where we can write to ask about these

unlisted items?

Thanks, !

Judith

>

> Hi Judith,

>

> The Breaking the Vicious Cycle book (the source for the SCD diet)

says no starches whatsoever. So I would assume that the kuzu root

powder would not be allowed, sorry to say. (Things like arrowroot are

also not allowed.)

>

> As for the chlorella, I'm not sure. BTVC says no seaweeds but

doesn't say anything about algaes, but GAPS says no algaes. I'm

experiencing the same frustration of finding that the lists given in

the books don't cover all the questions I have, and I don't know

where to find the answers. (for example, kombucha? tamarind? the

minute amount of red algae in my cod liver oil? etc.)

>

> I guess we all just do the best we can.

>

> In terms of your question about books, BTVC is helpful in terms of

understanding a bit more about the rationale for the SCD diet, and

has some helpful recipes, but maybe a bit "mainstream" in flavor.

(There are also a few outdated aspects such as saying that saccharin

is okay.) But the GAPS book has all the fundamentals.

>

>

>

>

> [ ] Are these things allowed?

>

>

> I have been on the GAPS diet for a few weeks, and on the

no-gliadin

> diet for a few months (it's almost identical). I only have the

GAPS

> book right now, so I need to know if these items are allowed in

GAPS.

>

> chlorella

> Kudzu/kuzu root powder

>

> I'm sure I'll have more questions like this! Do the other books

have a

> more extensive list of things allowed/not allowed? Which books do

you

> all recommend?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Judith

>