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I don't think you are losing your mind at all, especially this time of year. Our AS kido's feel the hype at school, all of the kids in the schools are excited to end the school year, a lot of the kids and the staff check out for the school year or at least at my child's school. My thought is the structure is not there at the end of the school year and it effects or kido's.

Another thought, as the same situation you describe happens with my AS son. Control, our Kids do not get to do a lot of it, I mean being able to control what is going on in there lives, by not having that control in there life they start acting out and the meltdowns come as well. My son is also very manipulative in public lately, and knows he puts me on the spot out in public. I stick to my guns, and you know the kid has not been able to get computer time for 3 days due to his behavior in public. I do try to give my son control over himself in situations I know he is able to handle and can be safe in doing so and this helps some along with it teaches him how to take care of himself and self regulate in certain situations.

These behaviors will come and go in different stages throughout your child's life, hopefully they will get better as your child gets older and is able to understand how to control and regulate himself.

Good luck,

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I am getting there too. My boy is 12 and pre-teen behavior is in full swing. Not easy to deal with him at times.

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From: mfilas76 <mfilas76@...> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 10:48:18 AMSubject: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

And my sanity....Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week.

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Oh - and he's 8 by the way. I am scared to death to tell him that he is going

to be going to extended school year because of how he is going to react. " I "

know that it's only for 3 weeks....in July...but, he's going to have a complete

meltdown....

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> I am getting there too.  My boy is 12 and pre-teen behavior is in full

swing.  Not easy to deal with him at times.

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> Ide

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> From: mfilas76 <mfilas76@...>

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> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 10:48:18 AM

> Subject: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

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> And my sanity....

>

> Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through

growth spurts they completely test your sanity...ability as parents, as people?

I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right

now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me.

He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life

hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing

me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when

and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at

night. The motormouth is constant right now....

>

> I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy,

and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor

until next week.

>

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My son is 8 also. He has high functioning autism, bipolar and SID. I know the feeling. It is a huge debate as to if we do anything even if it is something he loves doing. If he thinks it is your choice its NO!!!

From: mfilas76 <mfilas76@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 12:16 PM

Oh - and he's 8 by the way. I am scared to death to tell him that he is going to be going to extended school year because of how he is going to react. "I" know that it's only for 3 weeks....in July...but, he's going to have a complete meltdown....>> I am getting there too. My boy is 12 and pre-teen behavior is in full swing. Not easy to deal with him at times.> > Ide> > > > > ________________________________> From: mfilas76 <mfilas76@...>> > Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 10:48:18 AM> Subject: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent> >  > And my sanity....> > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....>

> I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week.>------------------------------------

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This is how it is daily here. Are you taking anything for anxiety?On May 17, 2010, at 10:48 AM, mfilas76 wrote:

And my sanity....

Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....

I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week.

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I'm sorry. I can totally relate and the motormouth and noises always do me in. I don't have a solution, but hang in there! BeckySent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "mfilas76" <mfilas76@...>Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 15:48:18 -0000< >Subject: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent And my sanity....Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week.

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Yes, we are ging through that right now with the XBOX - it's been gone from both

of the boys since Thursday (harder for me...lol)....but, I'm sticking to my

guns!

>

> I don't think you are losing your mind at all, especially this time of

> year. Our AS kido's feel the hype at school, all of the kids in the schools

> are excited to end the school year, a lot of the kids and the staff check out

> for the school year or at least at my child's school. My thought is the

> structure is not there at the end of the school year and it effects or kido's.

>

> Another thought, as the same situation you describe happens with my AS son.

> Control, our Kids do not get to do a lot of it, I mean being able to

> control what is going on in there lives, by not having that control in there

> life they start acting out and the meltdowns come as well. My son is also

> very manipulative in public lately, and knows he puts me on the spot out in

> public. I stick to my guns, and you know the kid has not been able to get

> computer time for 3 days due to his behavior in public. I do try to give my

> son control over himself in situations I know he is able to handle and can be

> safe in doing so and this helps some along with it teaches him how to take

> care of himself and self regulate in certain situations.

>

> These behaviors will come and go in different stages throughout your

> child's life, hopefully they will get better as your child gets older and is

> able to understand how to control and regulate himself.

>

> Good luck,

> Dawn

>

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I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's going to

kick in here soon. There are alot of other " stressors " in our life right now,

and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs of parenting, right? It

makes me seriously question my abilities (re: subject lol). He has become so

agressive....and just mean. Yesterday, he was yelling out the door that his

older brother was fat. He bought a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and

it has a radio and an emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let

him have stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He

kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop,

tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the " never cry wolf "

thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the neighbors probably

didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded yelling " I have only been

playing with it for 3 hours, I'm not talking to you! Get out of my room! " ! I

then said that if I heard it again, it would be taken away permanently. He

freaked out, and slammed the door....

I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand. And then

people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent.

>

> > And my sanity....

> >

> > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through

growth spurts they completely test your sanity...ability as parents, as people?

I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right

now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me.

He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life

hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing

me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when

and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at

night. The motormouth is constant right now....

> >

> > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not

crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his

doctor until next week.

> >

> >

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You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing. KelSent from my iPhoneOn 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, "mfilas76" <mfilas76@...> wrote:

I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other "stressors" in our life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re: subject lol). He has become so agressive....and just mean. Yesterday, he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop, tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the "never cry wolf" thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded yelling "I have only been playing with it for

3 hours, I'm not talking to you! Get out of my room!"! I then said that if I heard it again, it would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the door....

I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand. And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent.

>

> > And my sanity....

> >

> > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....

> >

> > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week.

> >

> >

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Oh, you mean it is not just my son! I thought I was alone with the anger and yelling and slamming doors. My son is 14 and I feel the growth hormones, teen stuff as well as having AS is causing all of this. He has fits about getting up and told me I was "bitching". Then proceeded to knock over he chair and throw everything off his dresser and it is only 6 a.m. and the bus comes at 6:15 a.m. Ugh! What a God awful hour to have to get up and go to school but he rides the smaller bus. I can't get him to bed at night or wake up in the mornng. Everything is an argument. He goes straight to his room after school. I have learned not to talk to him. what a life is this? I can't even talk to him. I know he is holding it together in school and doing much better. He refuses to do homework or study but is still passing everything. Thank Goodness. But he is smart...but he doesn't apply himself and he "doesn't care".

So please know you are not alone! We are in this together. I am going to try talking to him tonight. He wants things and we do for him...so now it is his turn to do some stuff for us! Like study for 1/2 hour. And, he wants to be treated like a teen....so then he has to start taking on responsibility. He can't have it both ways. We'll see how it works out.

Hang in there...you are doing the best you can....and you and I are in the same boat...so lean over and cry on my shoulder if you need to....

jan

"Faith, hope and Love and the greatest of these is Love"

From: Mayne <jazjamloch@...>" " < >Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 3:55:22 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.

I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing.

KelSent from my iPhone

On 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, "mfilas76" <mfilas76 (DOT) com> wrote:

I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other "stressors" in our life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re: subject lol). He has become so agressive... .and just mean. Yesterday, he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop, tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the "never cry wolf" thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded yelling "I have only been playing with it for 3 hours, I'm

not talking to you! Get out of my room!"! I then said that if I heard it again, it would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the door....I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand. And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent. > > > And my sanity....> > > > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your

sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....> > > > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week. > > > >>

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Please please please tell me my 8 yr old will stop slamming doors as a teen!! LOL I really dunno if I can handle it getting worse. She already acts like a hormonal teenager, but I think she might be going through some puberty early shes developing if you know what i mean! On May 17, 2010, at 1:36 PM, rushen janice wrote:

Oh, you mean it is not just my son! I thought I was alone with the anger and yelling and slamming doors. My son is 14 and I feel the growth hormones, teen stuff as well as having AS is causing all of this. He has fits about getting up and told me I was "bitching". Then proceeded to knock over he chair and throw everything off his dresser and it is only 6 a.m. and the bus comes at 6:15 a.m. Ugh! What a God awful hour to have to get up and go to school but he rides the smaller bus. I can't get him to bed at night or wake up in the mornng. Everything is an argument. He goes straight to his room after school. I have learned not to talk to him. what a life is this? I can't even talk to him. I know he is holding it together in school and doing much better. He refuses to do homework or study but is still passing everything. Thank Goodness. But he is smart...but he doesn't apply himself and he "doesn't care".

So please know you are not alone! We are in this together. I am going to try talking to him tonight. He wants things and we do for him...so now it is his turn to do some stuff for us! Like study for 1/2 hour. And, he wants to be treated like a teen....so then he has to start taking on responsibility. He can't have it both ways. We'll see how it works out.

Hang in there...you are doing the best you can....and you and I are in the same boat...so lean over and cry on my shoulder if you need to....

jan "Faith, hope and Love and the greatest of these is Love"

From: Mayne <jazjamloch >" " < >Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 3:55:22 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.

I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing.

KelSent from my iPhone

On 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, "mfilas76" <mfilas76 (DOT) com> wrote:

I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other "stressors" in our life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re: subject lol). He has become so agressive... .and just mean. Yesterday, he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop, tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the "never cry wolf" thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded yelling "I have only been playing with it for 3 hours, I'm

not talking to you! Get out of my room!"! I then said that if I heard it again, it would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the door....I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand. And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent. > > > And my sanity....> > > > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your

sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....> > > > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week. > > > >>

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oh btw, my daughter doesn't care either, she hates to do her work, she tells me "I'm smarter than you are I dont need school" Which she is quiet intelligent everything comes easy to her. But if she just tried harder she could learn so much more! I try to tell her that but she just stares at me with that are you still talking face. LOL On May 17, 2010, at 1:36 PM, rushen janice wrote:

Oh, you mean it is not just my son! I thought I was alone with the anger and yelling and slamming doors. My son is 14 and I feel the growth hormones, teen stuff as well as having AS is causing all of this. He has fits about getting up and told me I was "bitching". Then proceeded to knock over he chair and throw everything off his dresser and it is only 6 a.m. and the bus comes at 6:15 a.m. Ugh! What a God awful hour to have to get up and go to school but he rides the smaller bus. I can't get him to bed at night or wake up in the mornng. Everything is an argument. He goes straight to his room after school. I have learned not to talk to him. what a life is this? I can't even talk to him. I know he is holding it together in school and doing much better. He refuses to do homework or study but is still passing everything. Thank Goodness. But he is smart...but he doesn't apply himself and he "doesn't care".

So please know you are not alone! We are in this together. I am going to try talking to him tonight. He wants things and we do for him...so now it is his turn to do some stuff for us! Like study for 1/2 hour. And, he wants to be treated like a teen....so then he has to start taking on responsibility. He can't have it both ways. We'll see how it works out.

Hang in there...you are doing the best you can....and you and I are in the same boat...so lean over and cry on my shoulder if you need to....

jan "Faith, hope and Love and the greatest of these is Love"

From: Mayne <jazjamloch >" " < >Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 3:55:22 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.

I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing.

KelSent from my iPhone

On 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, "mfilas76" <mfilas76 (DOT) com> wrote:

I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other "stressors" in our life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re: subject lol). He has become so agressive... .and just mean. Yesterday, he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop, tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the "never cry wolf" thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded yelling "I have only been playing with it for 3 hours, I'm

not talking to you! Get out of my room!"! I then said that if I heard it again, it would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the door....I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand. And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent. > > > And my sanity....> > > > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your

sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....> > > > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week. > > > >>

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

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My son is 14 also. He doesn't care about school and won't do class or homework. The main problem that he has now and has had for years is lying. He will lie even when you catch him in the middle of it. He will not relent. We have done everything we know to do. He has recently been diagnosed with Asberger's and I am wondering if this is part of it. Deana Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: Byrne <kabob@...>Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 17:37:07 -0700< >Subject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent oh btw, my daughter doesn't care either, she hates to do her work, she tells me "I'm smarter than you are I dont need school" Which she is quiet intelligent everything comes easy to her. But if she just tried harder she could learn so much more! I try to tell her that but she just stares at me with that are you still talking face. LOL On May 17, 2010, at 1:36 PM, rushen janice wrote: Oh, you mean it is not just my son! I thought I was alone with the anger and yelling and slamming doors. My son is 14 and I feel the growth hormones, teen stuff as well as having AS is causing all of this. He has fits about getting up and told me I was "bitching". Then proceeded to knock over he chair and throw everything off his dresser and it is only 6 a.m. and the bus comes at 6:15 a.m. Ugh! What a God awful hour to have to get up and go to school but he rides the smaller bus. I can't get him to bed at night or wake up in the mornng. Everything is an argument. He goes straight to his room after school. I have learned not to talk to him. what a life is this? I can't even talk to him. I know he is holding it together in school and doing much better. He refuses to do homework or study but is still passing everything. Thank Goodness. But he is smart...but he doesn't apply himself and he "doesn't care". So please know you are not alone! We are in this together. I am going to try talking to him tonight. He wants things and we do for him...so now it is his turn to do some stuff for us! Like study for 1/2 hour. And, he wants to be treated like a teen....so then he has to start taking on responsibility. He can't have it both ways. We'll see how it works out. Hang in there...you are doing the best you can....and you and I are in the same boat...so lean over and cry on my shoulder if you need to.... jan "Faith, hope and Love and the greatest of these is Love"From: Mayne <jazjamloch >" " < >Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 3:55:22 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing. KelSent from my iPhoneOn 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, "mfilas76" <mfilas76 (DOT) com> wrote: I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other "stressors" in our life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re: subject lol). He has become so agressive... .and just mean. Yesterday, he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop, tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the "never cry wolf" thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded yelling "I have only been playing with it for 3 hours, I'mnot talking to you! Get out of my room!"! I then said that if I heard it again, it would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the door....I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand. And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent. > > > And my sanity....> > > > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test yoursanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....> > > > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week. > > > >>“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

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Take the door off for the next 6 years! LolSent from my iPhoneOn 18/05/2010, at 10:36 AM, Byrne <kabob@...> wrote:

Please please please tell me my 8 yr old will stop slamming doors as a teen!! LOL I really dunno if I can handle it getting worse. She already acts like a hormonal teenager, but I think she might be going through some puberty early shes developing if you know what i mean! On May 17, 2010, at 1:36 PM, rushen janice wrote:

Oh, you mean it is not just my son! I thought I was alone with the anger and yelling and slamming doors. My son is 14 and I feel the growth hormones, teen stuff as well as having AS is causing all of this. He has fits about getting up and told me I was "bitching". Then proceeded to knock over he chair and throw everything off his dresser and it is only 6 a.m. and the bus comes at 6:15 a.m. Ugh! What a God awful hour to have to get up and go to school but he rides the smaller bus. I can't get him to bed at night or wake up in the mornng. Everything is an argument. He goes straight to his room after school. I have learned not to talk to him. what a life is this? I can't even talk to him. I know he is holding it together in school and doing much better. He refuses to do homework or study but is still passing everything. Thank Goodness. But he is smart...but he doesn't apply himself and he "doesn't care".

So please know you are not alone! We are in this together. I am going to try talking to him tonight. He wants things and we do for him...so now it is his turn to do some stuff for us! Like study for 1/2 hour. And, he wants to be treated like a teen....so then he has to start taking on responsibility. He can't have it both ways. We'll see how it works out.

Hang in there...you are doing the best you can....and you and I are in the same boat...so lean over and cry on my shoulder if you need to....

jan "Faith, hope and Love and the greatest of these is Love"

From: Mayne <jazjamloch >" " < >Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 3:55:22 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.

I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing.

KelSent from my iPhone

On 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, "mfilas76" <mfilas76 (DOT) com> wrote:

I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other "stressors" in our life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re: subject lol). He has become so agressive... .and just mean. Yesterday, he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop, tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the "never cry wolf" thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded yelling "I have only been playing with it

for 3 hours, I'm

not talking to you! Get out of my room!"! I then said that if I heard it again, it would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the door....I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand. And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent. > > > And my sanity....> > > > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your

sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....> > > > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week. > > > >>

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Your daughter might be developing early. I had a girlfriend whose daughter daughter started really early. More and More girls are...there was an article in Time magazine years ago about this. It is partly due to all the hormones we feed chickens and cows. Even some boys were developing. My friend's daughter ending up getting shots to prevent her from developing too early. I don't mean to scare you...your daughter may just have a bit of this...keep an eye on it and talk to her dr. And, sorry to say, I don't think it gets much better until they truly mature.

Jan

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From: Byrne <kabob@...> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 8:36:03 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

Please please please tell me my 8 yr old will stop slamming doors as a teen!! LOL I really dunno if I can handle it getting worse. She already acts like a hormonal teenager, but I think she might be going through some puberty early shes developing if you know what i mean!

On May 17, 2010, at 1:36 PM, rushen janice wrote:

Oh, you mean it is not just my son! I thought I was alone with the anger and yelling and slamming doors. My son is 14 and I feel the growth hormones, teen stuff as well as having AS is causing all of this. He has fits about getting up and told me I was "bitching". Then proceeded to knock over he chair and throw everything off his dresser and it is only 6 a.m. and the bus comes at 6:15 a.m. Ugh! What a God awful hour to have to get up and go to school but he rides the smaller bus. I can't get him to bed at night or wake up in the mornng. Everything is an argument. He goes straight to his room after school. I have learned not to talk to him. what a life is this? I can't even talk to him. I know he is holding it together in school and doing much better. He refuses to do homework or study but is still passing everything. Thank Goodness. But he is smart...but he doesn't apply himself and he "doesn't care".

So please know you are not alone! We are in this together. I am going to try talking to him tonight. He wants things and we do for him...so now it is his turn to do some stuff for us! Like study for 1/2 hour. And, he wants to be treated like a teen....so then he has to start taking on responsibility. He can't have it both ways. We'll see how it works out.

Hang in there...you are doing the best you can....and you and I are in the same boat...so lean over and cry on my shoulder if you need to....

jan

"Faith, hope and Love and the greatest of these is Love"

From: Mayne <jazjamloch (DOT) com>" " < >Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 3:55:22 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.

I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing.

KelSent from my iPhone

On 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, "mfilas76" <mfilas76 (DOT) com> wrote:

I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other "stressors" in our life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re: subject lol). He has become so agressive... .and just mean. Yesterday, he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop, tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the "never cry wolf" thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded yelling "I have only been playing with it for 3 hours, I'm

not talking to you! Get out of my room!"! I then said that if I heard it again, it would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the door....I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand. And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent. > > > And my sanity....> > > > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your

sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....> > > > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week. > > > >>

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.†- Steve Jobs

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I think we may never reach the point of getting them to "care" like others do but maybe we can try positive reinforcement. Rewards. I am going to tell my son....you want a sleepover Friday...then I want 20 min. each day of studying. I'll let you know.

jan

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From: Byrne <kabob@...> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 8:37:07 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

oh btw, my daughter doesn't care either, she hates to do her work, she tells me "I'm smarter than you are I dont need school" Which she is quiet intelligent everything comes easy to her. But if she just tried harder she could learn so much more! I try to tell her that but she just stares at me with that are you still talking face. LOL

On May 17, 2010, at 1:36 PM, rushen janice wrote:

Oh, you mean it is not just my son! I thought I was alone with the anger and yelling and slamming doors. My son is 14 and I feel the growth hormones, teen stuff as well as having AS is causing all of this. He has fits about getting up and told me I was "bitching". Then proceeded to knock over he chair and throw everything off his dresser and it is only 6 a.m. and the bus comes at 6:15 a.m. Ugh! What a God awful hour to have to get up and go to school but he rides the smaller bus. I can't get him to bed at night or wake up in the mornng. Everything is an argument. He goes straight to his room after school. I have learned not to talk to him. what a life is this? I can't even talk to him. I know he is holding it together in school and doing much better. He refuses to do homework or study but is still passing everything. Thank Goodness. But he is smart...but he doesn't apply himself and he "doesn't care".

So please know you are not alone! We are in this together. I am going to try talking to him tonight. He wants things and we do for him...so now it is his turn to do some stuff for us! Like study for 1/2 hour. And, he wants to be treated like a teen....so then he has to start taking on responsibility. He can't have it both ways. We'll see how it works out.

Hang in there...you are doing the best you can....and you and I are in the same boat...so lean over and cry on my shoulder if you need to....

jan

"Faith, hope and Love and the greatest of these is Love"

From: Mayne <jazjamloch (DOT) com>" " < >Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 3:55:22 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.

I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing.

KelSent from my iPhone

On 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, "mfilas76" <mfilas76 (DOT) com> wrote:

I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other "stressors" in our life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re: subject lol). He has become so agressive... .and just mean. Yesterday, he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop, tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the "never cry wolf" thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded yelling "I have only been playing with it for 3 hours, I'm

not talking to you! Get out of my room!"! I then said that if I heard it again, it would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the door....I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand. And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent. > > > And my sanity....> > > > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your

sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....> > > > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week. > > > >>

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.†- Steve Jobs

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My NT 8 year old girl can act the same way! I didn't let her take her purse to school today and I was told "you always make my life miserable!" Nice. But she's also very loving and sweet at times so we connect in that way which makes the drama a little easier to stomach. Can't imagine what 11, 12, and 13 will bring! Yikes!Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: Mayne <jazjamloch@...>Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:32:55 -0700 (PDT) < >Subject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent Take the door off for the next 6 years! LolSent from my iPhoneOn 18/05/2010, at 10:36 AM, Byrne <kabobecatbox (DOT) net> wrote: Please please please tell me my 8 yr old will stop slamming doors as a teen!! LOL I really dunno if I can handle it getting worse. She already acts like a hormonal teenager, but I think she might be going through some puberty early shes developing if you know what i mean! On May 17, 2010, at 1:36 PM, rushen janice wrote: Oh, you mean it is not just my son! I thought I was alone with the anger and yelling and slamming doors. My son is 14 and I feel the growth hormones, teen stuff as well as having AS is causing all of this. He has fits about getting up and told me I was "bitching". Then proceeded to knock over he chair and throw everything off his dresser and it is only 6 a.m. and the bus comes at 6:15 a.m. Ugh! What a God awful hour to have to get up and go to school but he rides the smaller bus. I can't get him to bed at night or wake up in the mornng. Everything is an argument. He goes straight to his room after school. I have learned not to talk to him. what a life is this? I can't even talk to him. I know he is holding it together in school and doing much better. He refuses to do homework or study but is still passing everything. Thank Goodness. But he is smart...but he doesn't apply himself and he "doesn't care". So please know you are not alone! We are in this together. I am going to try talking to him tonight. He wants things and we do for him...so now it is his turn to do some stuff for us! Like study for 1/2 hour. And, he wants to be treated like a teen....so then he has to start taking on responsibility. He can't have it both ways. We'll see how it works out. Hang in there...you are doing the best you can....and you and I are in the same boat...so lean over and cry on my shoulder if you need to.... jan "Faith, hope and Love and the greatest of these is Love"From: Mayne <jazjamloch >" " < >Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 3:55:22 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing. KelSent from my iPhoneOn 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, "mfilas76" <mfilas76 (DOT) com> wrote: I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other "stressors" in our life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re: subject lol). He has become so agressive... .and just mean. Yesterday, he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop, tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the "never cry wolf" thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded yelling "I have only been playing with itfor 3 hours, I'mnot talking to you! Get out of my room!"! I then said that if I heard it again, it would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the door....I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand. And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent. > > > And my sanity....> > > > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test yoursanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....> > > > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week. > > > >>“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.†- Steve Jobs

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I hope the doctor you are going to see is a med doctor who can help you

sort out the behaviors. I mean, as long as he is giving you such a

hard time about taking meds, you might as well make sure those meds are

worth the trouble and addressing his needs. Ask for meds to help with

sleep problems (clonidine? melatonin?) discuss if he might have

depression, which can come out as screaming and anger. I would start

there.

I would also work on scheduling to make things more organized so he

knows what is expected, when. You may already do that. But have

dinner at predictable times, bath time at the same time, have a bedtime

routine, etc. I also would not give in in public places. Take a

stand. Just once or twice and the problem will diminish or go away.

So why be held hostage? A little public embarrassment won't kill you

to get rid of that problem. And you can deal with him in public - so

don't say you can't. If nothing else, you can restrict where you go so

he can't pull whatever he's doing. Only go places where you can keep

control over the situation or discipline if necessary. The more

control you take over the situation, the less you will feel like you

are going crazy.

Roxanna

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

And my sanity....

Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going

through growth spurts they completely test your sanity...ability as

parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am

exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been

so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and

scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with

taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing

me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he

knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He

won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....

I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm

not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to

see his doctor until next week.

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My kids have one of those radio's. Aren't they fun? lol. I used to

have a bad habit of losing those kinds of toys after the novelty wore

off. And also, do not buy anything you can't live with for a day or

two! Just say NO! I think if you have a kid who can't delay

gratification or use common sense as to when to stop, you should be

extra careful as to what you buy him.

You are not a horrible parent either! You sound like you are just

overwhelmed. Hang in there!

Roxanna

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's

going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other " stressors " in our

life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs

of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re:

subject lol). He has become so agressive....and just mean. Yesterday,

he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought

a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an

emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have

stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He

kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to

stop, tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the

" never cry wolf " thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach

that the neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he

responded yelling " I have only been playing with it for 3 hours, I'm

not talking to you! Get out of my room! " ! I then said that if I heard

it again, it would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and

slammed the door....

I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand.

And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent.

>

> > And my sanity....

> >

> > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going

through growth spurts they completely test your sanity...ability as

parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am

exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so

angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and

scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with

taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing

me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he

knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He

won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....

> >

> > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm

not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to

see his doctor until next week.

> >

> >

>

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We actually did this once with my oldest dd after she slammed her door

one too many times. It works great. And she got to earn it back.

Incentive. lol.

Roxanna

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You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get

better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.

I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing. 

Kel

Sent from my iPhone

On 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, " mfilas76 " <mfilas76 (DOT) com> wrote:

 

I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's

going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other " stressors " in our

life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs

of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re:

subject lol). He has become so agressive... .and just mean. Yesterday,

he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a

flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an

emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff

like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept

making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop,

tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the " never cry

wolf " thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the

neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded

yelling " I have only been playing with it for 3 hours, I'm not talking

to you! Get out of my room! " ! I then said that if I heard it again, it

would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the

door....

I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand.

And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent.

>

> > And my sanity....

> >

> > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going

through growth spurts they completely test your sanity...ability as

parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am

exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so

angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and

scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with

taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing

me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he

knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He

won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....

> >

> > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm

not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to

see his doctor until next week.

> >

> >

>

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers,

the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things

differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them,

disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you

can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the

human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we

see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they

can change the world, are the ones who do.â€Â   -  Steve Jobs

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When my son was about that age he started doing that. I gave him one warning and took away his door. He lost it for a month and he's not done it again. Honestly things rarely work the first time, but for some reason this did. Three years later and he hasn't had it taken away since then.BeckyFrom: Byrne <kabob@...>To:

Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 7:36:03 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

Please please please tell me my 8 yr old will stop slamming doors as a teen!! LOL I really dunno if I can handle it getting worse. She already acts like a hormonal teenager, but I think she might be going through some puberty early shes developing if you know what i mean! On May 17, 2010, at 1:36 PM, rushen janice wrote:

Oh, you mean it is not just my son! I thought I was alone with the anger and yelling and slamming doors. My son is 14 and I feel the growth hormones, teen stuff as well as having AS is causing all of this. He has fits about getting up and told me I was "bitching". Then proceeded to knock over he chair and throw everything off his dresser and it is only 6 a.m. and the bus comes at 6:15 a.m. Ugh! What a God awful hour to have to get up and go to school but he rides the smaller bus. I can't get him to bed at night or wake up in the mornng. Everything is an argument. He goes straight to his room after school. I have learned not to talk to him. what a life is this? I can't even talk to him. I know he is holding it together in school and doing much better. He refuses to do homework or study but is still passing everything. Thank Goodness. But he is smart...but he doesn't apply himself and he "doesn't care".

So please know you are not alone! We are in this together. I am going to try talking to him tonight. He wants things and we do for him...so now it is his turn to do some stuff for us! Like study for 1/2 hour. And, he wants to be treated like a teen....so then he has to start taking on responsibility. He can't have it both ways. We'll see how it works out.

Hang in there...you are doing the best you can....and you and I are in the same boat...so lean over and cry on my shoulder if you need to....

jan "Faith, hope and Love and the greatest of these is Love"

From: Mayne <jazjamloch (DOT) com>" " < >Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 3:55:22 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.

I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing.

KelSent from my iPhone

On 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, "mfilas76" <mfilas76 (DOT) com> wrote:

I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other "stressors" in our life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re: subject lol). He has become so agressive... .and just mean. Yesterday, he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop, tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the "never cry wolf" thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded yelling "I have only been playing with it

for 3 hours, I'm

not talking to you! Get out of my room!"! I then said that if I heard it again, it would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the door....I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand. And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent. > > > And my sanity....> > > > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your

sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....> > > > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week. > > > >>

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.†- Steve Jobs

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Lying is usually the opposite problem for someone with AS/HFA. They

tell the truth and don't get the art of lying. This is due to a

problem with what they call, " theory of mind " - or the ability to know

what the other person is thinking or already knows. Learning to lie is

actually an achievement for many of these kids. My 13 yo ds, (hfa)

actually will apologize for telling the truth by saying, " I'm sorry if

that's not what you wanted to hear... " My 21 yo (hfa) will tell the

truth and for him, it's because he doesn't think about how the truth

will affect you - it is what it is. The idea of a " white lie " is lost

on him because he doesn't care. lol. If I say, " that wasn't nice! " to

him, he will just shrug.

One thing you might try with the lying is to stop asking him " if " he

did what you know he did. Just go straight to the point. Like, " I saw

that you hit your sister. Time out for 5 minutes. " Instead of, " Did

you just hit your sister? " and then you get into an argument over it

and by the end, you are so angry that he just won't admit it. Each

time, he keeps practicing the lying and it is reinforcing something for

him or he wouldn't keep doing it. So skip over that and practice the

result of what he did instead.

Roxanna

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

 

You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get

better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.

I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing. 

Kel

Sent from my iPhone

On 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, " mfilas76 " <mfilas76 (DOT) com> wrote:

 

I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's

going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other " stressors " in our

life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs

of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re:

subject lol). He has become so agressive... .and just mean. Yesterday,

he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a

flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an

emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff

like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept

making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop,

tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the " never cry

wolf " thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the

neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded

yelling " I have only been playing with it for 3 hours, I'm not talking

to you! Get out of my room! " ! I then said that if I heard it again, it

would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the

door....

I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand.

And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent.

>

> > And my sanity....

> >

> > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going

through growth spurts they completely test your sanity...ability as

parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am

exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so

angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and

scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with

taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing

me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he

knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He

won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....

> >

> > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm

not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to

see his doctor until next week.

> >

> >

>

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers,

the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things

differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them,

disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you

can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the

human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we

see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they

can change the world, are the ones who do.â€Â   -  Steve Jobs

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I've actually threatened that :-D On May 17, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Mayne wrote:

Take the door off for the next 6 years! LolSent from my iPhoneOn 18/05/2010, at 10:36 AM, Byrne <kabobecatbox (DOT) net> wrote:

Please please please tell me my 8 yr old will stop slamming doors as a teen!! LOL I really dunno if I can handle it getting worse. She already acts like a hormonal teenager, but I think she might be going through some puberty early shes developing if you know what i mean! On May 17, 2010, at 1:36 PM, rushen janice wrote:

Oh, you mean it is not just my son! I thought I was alone with the anger and yelling and slamming doors. My son is 14 and I feel the growth hormones, teen stuff as well as having AS is causing all of this. He has fits about getting up and told me I was "bitching". Then proceeded to knock over he chair and throw everything off his dresser and it is only 6 a.m. and the bus comes at 6:15 a.m. Ugh! What a God awful hour to have to get up and go to school but he rides the smaller bus. I can't get him to bed at night or wake up in the mornng. Everything is an argument. He goes straight to his room after school. I have learned not to talk to him. what a life is this? I can't even talk to him. I know he is holding it together in school and doing much better. He refuses to do homework or study but is still passing everything. Thank Goodness. But he is smart...but he doesn't apply himself and he "doesn't care".

So please know you are not alone! We are in this together. I am going to try talking to him tonight. He wants things and we do for him...so now it is his turn to do some stuff for us! Like study for 1/2 hour. And, he wants to be treated like a teen....so then he has to start taking on responsibility. He can't have it both ways. We'll see how it works out.

Hang in there...you are doing the best you can....and you and I are in the same boat...so lean over and cry on my shoulder if you need to....

jan "Faith, hope and Love and the greatest of these is Love"

From: Mayne <jazjamloch >" " < >Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 3:55:22 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.

I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing.

KelSent from my iPhone

On 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, "mfilas76" <mfilas76 (DOT) com> wrote:

I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other "stressors" in our life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re: subject lol). He has become so agressive... .and just mean. Yesterday, he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop, tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the "never cry wolf" thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded yelling "I have only been playing with it

for 3 hours, I'm

not talking to you! Get out of my room!"! I then said that if I heard it again, it would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the door....I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand. And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent. > > > And my sanity....> > > > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your

sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....> > > > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week. > > > >>

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

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Thanks Jan, I think in my heart I kinda knew that....I was just hoping someone would say no it gets much easier LOL ;-D On May 18, 2010, at 1:59 AM, rushen janice wrote:

Your daughter might be developing early. I had a girlfriend whose daughter daughter started really early. More and More girls are...there was an article in Time magazine years ago about this. It is partly due to all the hormones we feed chickens and cows. Even some boys were developing. My friend's daughter ending up getting shots to prevent her from developing too early. I don't mean to scare you...your daughter may just have a bit of this...keep an eye on it and talk to her dr. And, sorry to say, I don't think it gets much better until they truly mature.

Jan "In the Midst of Difficulty lies Opportunity" Albert Einstein

From: Byrne <kabobecatbox (DOT) net> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 8:36:03 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent Please please please tell me my 8 yr old will stop slamming doors as a teen!! LOL I really dunno if I can handle it getting worse. She already acts like a hormonal teenager, but I think she might be going through some puberty early shes developing if you know what i mean!

On May 17, 2010, at 1:36 PM, rushen janice wrote:

Oh, you mean it is not just my son! I thought I was alone with the anger and yelling and slamming doors. My son is 14 and I feel the growth hormones, teen stuff as well as having AS is causing all of this. He has fits about getting up and told me I was "bitching". Then proceeded to knock over he chair and throw everything off his dresser and it is only 6 a.m. and the bus comes at 6:15 a.m. Ugh! What a God awful hour to have to get up and go to school but he rides the smaller bus. I can't get him to bed at night or wake up in the mornng. Everything is an argument. He goes straight to his room after school. I have learned not to talk to him. what a life is this? I can't even talk to him. I know he is holding it together in school and doing much better. He refuses to do homework or study but is still passing everything. Thank Goodness. But he is smart...but he doesn't apply himself and he "doesn't care".

So please know you are not alone! We are in this together. I am going to try talking to him tonight. He wants things and we do for him...so now it is his turn to do some stuff for us! Like study for 1/2 hour. And, he wants to be treated like a teen....so then he has to start taking on responsibility. He can't have it both ways. We'll see how it works out.

Hang in there...you are doing the best you can....and you and I are in the same boat...so lean over and cry on my shoulder if you need to....

jan "Faith, hope and Love and the greatest of these is Love"

From: Mayne <jazjamloch (DOT) com>" " < >Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 3:55:22 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.

I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing.

KelSent from my iPhone

On 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, "mfilas76" <mfilas76 (DOT) com> wrote:

I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other "stressors" in our life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re: subject lol). He has become so agressive... .and just mean. Yesterday, he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop, tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the "never cry wolf" thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded yelling "I have only been playing with it for 3 hours, I'm

not talking to you! Get out of my room!"! I then said that if I heard it again, it would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the door....I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand. And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent. > > > And my sanity....> > > > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your

sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....> > > > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week. > > > >>

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

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I totally hear you. Same here. My daughter the other day was telling me how unfair I was after I had just spent 2 hours at Great Jump with them. I'm like really? unfair? If I was unfair, I would have made you stay home and help me reorganize the house!! On May 18, 2010, at 5:55 AM, smacalli@... wrote:

My NT 8 year old girl can act the same way! I didn't let her take her purse to school today and I was told "you always make my life miserable!" Nice. But she's also very loving and sweet at times so we connect in that way which makes the drama a little easier to stomach. Can't imagine what 11, 12, and 13 will bring! Yikes!Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: Mayne <jazjamloch >

Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:32:55 -0700 (PDT) < >Subject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

Take the door off for the next 6 years! LolSent from my iPhoneOn 18/05/2010, at 10:36 AM, Byrne <kabobecatbox (DOT) net> wrote:

Please please please tell me my 8 yr old will stop slamming doors as a teen!! LOL I really dunno if I can handle it getting worse. She already acts like a hormonal teenager, but I think she might be going through some puberty early shes developing if you know what i mean! On May 17, 2010, at 1:36 PM, rushen janice wrote:

Oh, you mean it is not just my son! I thought I was alone with the anger and yelling and slamming doors. My son is 14 and I feel the growth hormones, teen stuff as well as having AS is causing all of this. He has fits about getting up and told me I was "bitching". Then proceeded to knock over he chair and throw everything off his dresser and it is only 6 a.m. and the bus comes at 6:15 a.m. Ugh! What a God awful hour to have to get up and go to school but he rides the smaller bus. I can't get him to bed at night or wake up in the mornng. Everything is an argument. He goes straight to his room after school. I have learned not to talk to him. what a life is this? I can't even talk to him. I know he is holding it together in school and doing much better. He refuses to do homework or study but is still passing everything. Thank Goodness. But he is smart...but he doesn't apply himself and he "doesn't care".

So please know you are not alone! We are in this together. I am going to try talking to him tonight. He wants things and we do for him...so now it is his turn to do some stuff for us! Like study for 1/2 hour. And, he wants to be treated like a teen....so then he has to start taking on responsibility. He can't have it both ways. We'll see how it works out.

Hang in there...you are doing the best you can....and you and I are in the same boat...so lean over and cry on my shoulder if you need to....

jan "Faith, hope and Love and the greatest of these is Love"

From: Mayne <jazjamloch >" " < >Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 3:55:22 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Seriously testing my ability as a parent

You are not a horrible parent. You are trying your best. It may not get better but the zoloft will help you cope with these things.

I hope they do get better , you are doing the right thing.

KelSent from my iPhone

On 18/05/2010, at 4:52 AM, "mfilas76" <mfilas76 (DOT) com> wrote:

I just started back on Zoloft about 10 days ago, so I know that it's going to kick in here soon. There are alot of other "stressors" in our life right now, and I know that it will get better. The ups and downs of parenting, right? It makes me seriously question my abilities (re: subject lol). He has become so agressive... .and just mean. Yesterday, he was yelling out the door that his older brother was fat. He bought a flashlight at a garage sale on Saturday, and it has a radio and an emergency siren on it that is really loud. I try and let him have stuff like that, because it's his passion - anything mechanical. He kept making the thing beep....over and over and over. I asked him to stop, tried explaining that it was for emergencies. Explained the "never cry wolf" thing....that didn't work. Then, took the approach that the neighbors probably didn't want to hear it all day, and he responded yelling "I have only been playing with it

for 3 hours, I'm

not talking to you! Get out of my room!"! I then said that if I heard it again, it would be taken away permanently. He freaked out, and slammed the door....I am sorry to vent - It's just hard to get anyone else to understand. And then people look at you like you are suck a horrible parent. > > > And my sanity....> > > > Do you find, or have you found that when your children are going through growth spurts they completely test your

sanity...ability as parents, as people? I am obviously venting right now...but, I am exhausted. He is so unhappy right now...and loud, oh my. He has been so angry, the angry outbursts are killing me. He will yell and scream....and never wants to talk about anything. Makes life hell with taking meds, eating, getting his way, behaviour socially...is pushing me to my limits. He has been very manipulative in public, because he knows when and where I will discipline, and when and where I can't. He won't sleep at night. The motormouth is constant right now....> > > > I am going to lose my mind!!!! Sorry - please, somebody tell me I'm not crazy, and how long it's going to last...because he can't get in to see his doctor until next week. > > > >>

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

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