Re: male vs female genetics

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I guess the old nature nurture debate will grumble on for ever, the way I had Aspergers explained to me it that my son is using the primary function part of his brain to do english and maths, which means he is advanced in these subject as this part of the brain is very complex, but he is using the english and maths part to socially interact which is not as complex, so socially he will be behind his peers due to missing social clues and cues that others pick up on.

I suppose the nurture arguement comes in to play when you look at the different ways families try to help the child cope, I know for a fact I baby my son more than I should, does this affect his social interaction, I don't know, but I do know he is a confident, strong person because he knows no matter what he is loved. Who knows which approach is best?

Lx

From: seaglass278 <seaglass278@...>Subject: ( ) male vs female genetics Date: Tuesday, 26 January, 2010, 23:04

Seems this post has veered from the title! Asperger's in myfamily: mother-in-law to brother-in-law to my daughter.No "diagnosis" on the in-laws, diagnosis on my daughter justmade their behavior like, OOOH, THAT'S why they act theway they do! Definitely NOT my father-in-law. So who's tosay why who gets it or not, I strongly believe in a geneticcomponent. Now what on earth would be the common denominatorto "trigger" it going way back to my eighty year old MIL????Can't it just be genetic??? Maybe it's the stronger genelike brown eyes over blue eyes, I am baffled.LJ>> > > I just wanted to comment how many people have noted

that "dad's side" of the> family had the AS traits, but I also want to mention that I discussed> inheritance of this disorder with a research psychologist on Friday since I> was unable to find anything on the Internet. > > > > My concern was for my other "non ASD" older son who is hesitant about> fathering another ASPIE. He saw that it can be transmitted through a> non-ASD person; his aunt whose 10 yr old has AS.> > > > I was told by the researcher that there still hasn't been any conclusive> evidence of inheritance for any of the ASD diagnoses. I would truly> appreciate a link to the information regarding the "male dominant trait/sex> link".> > > > I also met some people in a support group who had daughters with AS, but> inherited from dad.> > > > In addition, I have a therapist

who treats many people who are children of> AS parents. She has seen many people have the AS characteristics that were> not inherited, but learned by living with their AS parent.> > > > Just food for thought...> > > > > > > > Belita>

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Another interesting perspective on this is that I was told that often boys with

AS react to stress and issues outwardly which becomes noticable as behavior

issues. Girls with AS I was told often withdraw inward when faces with stress.

So they would be more likely to try to " melt into the background " in social

situations. Inevitably as a society we recognize and respond quicker to

behavior problems, ie the squeeky wheel gets the grease. So a quite withdrawn

child who is compliant would not be dx as quickly if at all. These children

would be the ones who are labled as " shy " . If any of this is true (My aspie is

a boy so I wouldn't know about girls with AS) then it would go to figure that

mothers with AS, especially of the parent generation would not have as noticable

Aspie traits. To me this all make sense espcially with the older generations in

which culturally a woman being the quiet support behind her husband was socially

expected.

Just some thoughts to mull over.

From my perspective my son seems to have inherited all the minor " quirks " of my

husband and I which in combination are like Whoa!

Vickie

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> > I just wanted to comment how many people have noted that " dad's side " of the

> > family had the AS traits, but I also want to mention that I discussed

> > inheritance of this disorder with a research psychologist on Friday since I

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> > My concern was for my other " non ASD " older son who is hesitant about

> > fathering another ASPIE. He saw that it can be transmitted through a

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> > I was told by the researcher that there still hasn't been any conclusive

> > evidence of inheritance for any of the ASD diagnoses. I would truly

> > appreciate a link to the information regarding the " male dominant trait/sex

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> > In addition, I have a therapist who treats many people who are children of

> > AS parents. She has seen many people have the AS characteristics that were

> > not inherited, but learned by living with their AS parent.

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> > Just food for thought...

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Aspergers probably isn't a sex-linked trait; i.e., it isn't carried by genes on

the X or Y chromosome. However, it's known that at least 75% of Aspies are male.

Since male brains develop differently than female, it appears that females are

more likely to be immune from developing Apspergers than males.

It appears that Aspies are less likely to have children than the general

population, but that female Aspies are much less likely. There are so few Aspie

mothers that I don't know if anyone has ever researched how likely they are to

have Aspie children. And I don't know of any two Aspies who have ever had

children together!

Buck

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I understand what you mean, I did try to melt into the background, it didn't always work, whereas my son shouts about anything that is bothering him. My son also has traits from bother of us, and together your right WHAM!. lol

From: baneline1 <baneline1@...>Subject: Re: ( ) male vs female genetics Date: Wednesday, 27 January, 2010, 15:54

Another interesting perspective on this is that I was told that often boys with AS react to stress and issues outwardly which becomes noticable as behavior issues. Girls with AS I was told often withdraw inward when faces with stress. So they would be more likely to try to "melt into the background" in social situations. Inevitably as a society we recognize and respond quicker to behavior problems, ie the squeeky wheel gets the grease. So a quite withdrawn child who is compliant would not be dx as quickly if at all.. These children would be the ones who are labled as "shy". If any of this is true (My aspie is a boy so I wouldn't know about girls with AS) then it would go to figure that mothers with AS, especially of the parent generation would not have as noticable Aspie traits. To me this all make sense espcially with the older generations in which culturally a woman being the quiet support behind her husband was socially expected.Just some

thoughts to mull over.From my perspective my son seems to have inherited all the minor "quirks" of my husband and I which in combination are like Whoa! Vickie> >> > > > > > I just wanted to comment how many people have noted that "dad's side" of the> > family had the AS traits, but I also want to mention that I discussed> > inheritance of

this disorder with a research psychologist on Friday since I> > was unable to find anything on the Internet. > > > > > > > > My concern was for my other "non ASD" older son who is hesitant about> > fathering another ASPIE. He saw that it can be transmitted through a> > non-ASD person; his aunt whose 10 yr old has AS.> > > > > > > > I was told by the researcher that there still hasn't been any conclusive> > evidence of inheritance for any of the ASD diagnoses. I would truly> > appreciate a link to the information regarding the "male dominant trait/sex> > link".> > > > > > > > I also met some people in a support group who had daughters with AS, but> > inherited from dad.> > > > > > > > In addition, I have a therapist who treats

many people who are children of> > AS parents. She has seen many people have the AS characteristics that were> > not inherited, but learned by living with their AS parent.> > > > > > > > Just food for thought...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Belita> >>

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Yes there are more men with AS than women, but I must respectfully disagree with

you on the rest of your statement about who gets AS and how it is passed from

parent to child based on my own family and friends. There are a lot of AS moms

and dads out there, but they probably have never been diagnosed if they are over

25. Currently the definitions used for autism, AS, PDD-NOS, and similar

disabilities cover a wide range of behaviors. I'm looking forward to the day

when AS is no longer called AS because it has been broken down into several,

more precise conditions.