RE: Speech pattern question

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My 12yo does that too. I can't remember the name, but I encourage him to pause and think about what he is going to say although I have no idea if it has really helped.BeckyFrom: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood@...> Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 1:38:27 PMSubject: ( ) Speech pattern question

I had a question, I thought maybe someone here could help. I just noticed this again yesterday when we were at the barber shop, of all places.

My son (10) was diagnosed a little over a year ago, he has not had any speech therapy, as I know some of your kids have. I'm not sure this is even a speech problem or something else- he will start a sentence and repeat the first few words 4 or 5 times until he can get his thought out. Is there a name for this? Is it something that speech therapy would help with? Or is there someone else I should talk to about it?

It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does, I try not to be impatient, I let him get his thought out. But kids will not wait around until he finishes his sentence, I have seen them just walk away while he's talking. I would like to help him with this, does anyone have any advice?

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My 13yo daughter does exactly that, but not always. Has been

in speech therapy at school for 3 years. It has improved over time, but it

seems some days are still bad. I don’t know that name, sorry.

Regards, melody

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Sounds like echolalia, which can found in kids on the spectrum. My son used to do it frequently, but for only bursts of time. It's very occasional at this point.

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: doodle bug <doodlebugboodles@...> Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 4:35:11 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Speech pattern question

My 12yo does that too. I can't remember the name, but I encourage him to pause and think about what he is going to say although I have no idea if it has really helped.Becky

From: Suzanne Markwood <suzmarkwood> Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 1:38:27 PMSubject: ( ) Speech pattern question

I had a question, I thought maybe someone here could help. I just noticed this again yesterday when we were at the barber shop, of all places.

My son (10) was diagnosed a little over a year ago, he has not had any speech therapy, as I know some of your kids have. I'm not sure this is even a speech problem or something else- he will start a sentence and repeat the first few words 4 or 5 times until he can get his thought out. Is there a name for this? Is it something that speech therapy would help with? Or is there someone else I should talk to about it?

It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does, I try not to be impatient, I let him get his thought out. But kids will not wait around until he finishes his sentence, I have seen them just walk away while he's talking. I would like to help him with this, does anyone have any advice?

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood

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Honestly, my son (9) has done this since he was very little. I

always thought it came across like his mouth was moving faster than his brain

could process. And that’s probably very close to the truth. Do you notice

that it happens more at any specific time? I know that when my is

excited, or upset, it seems to happen MORE. I am not sure what the answer

is to helping this… but it definitely seems to be somewhat “normal”

for our kids I will say that I see LESS of it now than I did when he was

younger. His kindergarten teacher was sooo concerned about it, because it

really was (As you said) interfering with his fluidity! Grade one… his

teacher mentioned that he’d get upset, and would repeat the same word

over, and over, and over, and over… as if he was so upset that he couldn’t

get ANY other word out except for that one (again, likely very true).

Now, in grade 4, it still happens.. haha as I am typing this, it

just did He’s talking to his brother about starting a Pokemon Club

(his special interest)… and his brother was trying to enforce rules –

so said “But I, I, I, I, I, I started the club, so I get to make

the rules” LOL It doesn’t happen near so often now, and honestly, I

don’t much notice it anymore. It doesn’t seem to be causing him any

issues… so I tend not to stress about it.

Enough of my rambling on the subject I look forward to other’s

responses!

=)

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Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:08 PM

Subject: ( ) Speech pattern question

I had a question, I thought maybe someone here could help.

I just noticed this again yesterday when we were at the barber shop, of all

places.

My son (10) was diagnosed a little over a year ago, he has

not had any speech therapy, as I know some of your kids have. I'm not sure

this is even a speech problem or something else- he will start a sentence and

repeat the first few words 4 or 5 times until he can get his thought out. Is

there a name for this? Is it something that speech therapy would help with?

Or is there someone else I should talk to about it?

It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does, I try

not to be impatient, I let him get his thought out. But kids will not wait

around until he finishes his sentence, I have seen them just walk away while

he's talking. I would like to help him with this, does anyone have any

advice?

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood@...

[Guest guest]

My AS son is now 16 and that repetative speech went away around middle school. A LOT of changes surfaced at that time... and more to come!

From: O'Brien <nicole.obrien@...>Subject: RE: ( ) Speech pattern question Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 2:47 AM

Honestly, my son (9) has done this since he was very little. I always thought it came across like his mouth was moving faster than his brain could process. And that’s probably very close to the truth. Do you notice that it happens more at any specific time? I know that when my is excited, or upset, it seems to happen MORE. I am not sure what the answer is to helping this… but it definitely seems to be somewhat “normal†for our kids I will say that I see LESS of it now than I did when he was younger. His kindergarten teacher was sooo concerned about it, because it really was (As you said) interfering with his fluidity! Grade one… his teacher mentioned that he’d get upset, and would repeat the same word over, and over, and over, and over… as if he was so upset that he couldn’t get ANY other word out except for that one (again, likely very

true).

Now, in grade 4, it still happens.. haha as I am typing this, it just did He’s talking to his brother about starting a Pokemon Club (his special interest)… and his brother was trying to enforce rules – so said “But I, I, I, I, I, I started the club, so I get to make the rules†LOL It doesn’t happen near so often now, and honestly, I don’t much notice it anymore. It doesn’t seem to be causing him any issues… so I tend not to stress about it.

Enough of my rambling on the subject I look forward to other’s responses! =)

From: [mailto:AspergersSu pport@group s.com] On Behalf Of Suzanne MarkwoodSent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:08 PM Subject: ( ) Speech pattern question

I had a question, I thought maybe someone here could help. I just noticed this again yesterday when we were at the barber shop, of all places.

My son (10) was diagnosed a little over a year ago, he has not had any speech therapy, as I know some of your kids have. I'm not sure this is even a speech problem or something else- he will start a sentence and repeat the first few words 4 or 5 times until he can get his thought out. Is there a name for this? Is it something that speech therapy would help with? Or is there someone else I should talk to about it?

It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does, I try not to be impatient, I let him get his thought out. But kids will not wait around until he finishes his sentence, I have seen them just walk away while he's talking. I would like to help him with this, does anyone have any advice?

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood

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Yes, get a full educational evaluation and include a good ST eval as well. It could be stuttering, word retrieval delays, processing delays, anxiety...? So many things it might be or a combo of things. My dd stutters and so did my dad. So I was always really aware of any sign of it. My dd had years of ST and does really well now. My dad never had ST and always struggled with stuttering a lot.

My youngest ds started stuttering and I got him ST right away but later realized, it was probably part of word retrieval delays and processing. My 13 yo ds (hfa) does the same thing you describe and it is because he is not paying attention when he is talking. I mean, he often calls us the wrong names even - he will come up and call me his brother's name and start talking. Then he will realize I'm not his brother and he said it wrong, so he stops mid sentence and restarts it. Or he will be halfway through a sentence and realize he said "he" instead of "she" and so he stops himself and restarts. It is stressful to have to wait through the process, I agree. And I am sure kids would not bother waiting. I have to get on his siblings to not cut him off when he is doing it. They get tired of waiting and just say something to interrupt or walk off. He does have ST for an hour a week. The thing is, he is paying attention in that setting and she does not notice it as much. But she has seen it in the past. So she works with him on fluency issues, teaching him ways to deal with it.

Roxanna

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

( ) Speech pattern question

I had a question, I thought maybe someone here could help. I just noticed this again yesterday when we were at the barber shop, of all places.

My son (10) was diagnosed a little over a year ago, he has not had any speech therapy, as I know some of your kids have. I'm not sure this is even a speech problem or something else- he will start a sentence and repeat the first few words 4 or 5 times until he can get his thought out. Is there a name for this? Is it something that speech therapy would help with? Or is there someone else I should talk to about it?

It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does, I try not to be impatient, I let him get his thought out. But kids will not wait around until he finishes his sentence, I have seen them just walk away while he's talking. I would like to help him with this, does anyone have any advice?

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood

[Guest guest]

Sounds like a problem retrieving words or detailing information, or even both problems. Many kids with AS/HFA can have a problem answering questions like, "What did you do today?" Get that ST eval and write down examples to explain what is going on. My ds (13 yo, hfa) had to have a whole program when he was younger because he did not know how to discriminate WH questions or how to answer them even if he understood the question. It was a real big problem so that you might say, "Hi Reece, how are you doing today?" and he would reply, "I'm right here." So you could get an evaluation done to discover what things are not working well so he can get some help smoothing it over. We had to teach my ds to discriminate WH questions as well as teach him how to answer questions. For a long time, someone would ask, "What did you in class today?" and he would say, "Yeah!" He had no clue how to relate that kind of information. Being able to retell a story or retell events from the immediate past, from the distant past, putting events in order, understanding what is being asked, etc. is important and via an ABA program, we went through every issue with him to teach him how. I mean, there are a host of reasons why these kinds of problems are going on. Finding out can direct you how to work on it. It's funny how speech is almost like one of the "final frontier's" in that it's the end product - the part that comes out at the end. So how did it get there? How did the problem happen? Processing? Information retrieval? Auditory? And then worse - a mix of several issues going on at once? lol. That is why a good eval can help you figure it out. It might just be a short term phase. But I am a "hysterical parent" type and do not believe that kids who already have a neurological glitch should be considered in a group that has a "short term phase" type problem. Mostly because it's never just a short term phase. lol. Well, it might be. But it is usually part of the larger picture and you are just seeing the end result of that interrupted process.

Roxanna

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

( ) Speech pattern question

I had a question, I thought maybe someone here could help. I just noticed this again yesterday when we were at the barber shop, of all places.

My son (10) was diagnosed a little over a year ago, he has not had any speech therapy, as I know some of your kids have. I'm not sure this is even a speech problem or something else- he will start a sentence and repeat the first few words 4 or 5 times until he can get his thought out. Is there a name for this? Is it something that speech therapy would help with? Or is there someone else I should talk to about it?

It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does, I try not to be impatient, I let him get his thought out. But kids will not wait around until he finishes his sentence, I have seen them just walk away while he's talking. I would like to help him with this, does anyone have any advice?

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Suzanne

suzmarkwood

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I watched my son (4.5 yr-old, at the time) be tested for pre-school services at our public school and it was so telling. She started the speech eval part by saying something like "My name is Sue. I have a dog named Max and I like the color blue. Now you've learned something about me, so I'd like to learn something about you. Can you tell me about yourself?" Dylan just sat there. Here's the kid who knew his alphabet and shapes at the age of 2, but he had no idea what to say. He just sat there. You could tell he was trying to figure it out, but he was stumped. He talked to anyone, all of the time, so it had nothing to do with shyness either. In fact, when he sat there, speechless, that was the most telling part to me. Here's this kid who never stops talking or moving and asking him to talk about himself renders him speechless? I was already in the

process of accepting the fact that something was wrong, but that sealed the deal for me.

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 10:06:15 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Speech pattern question

Sounds like a problem retrieving words or detailing information, or even both problems. Many kids with AS/HFA can have a problem answering questions like, "What did you do today?" Get that ST eval and write down examples to explain what is going on. My ds (13 yo, hfa) had to have a whole program when he was younger because he did not know how to discriminate WH questions or how to answer them even if he understood the question. It was a real big problem so that you might say, "Hi Reece, how are you doing today?" and he would reply, "I'm right here." So you could get an evaluation done to discover what things are not working well so he can get some help smoothing it over. We had to teach my ds to discriminate WH questions as well as teach him how to answer questions. For a long time, someone would ask, "What did you in class today?" and he would say,

"Yeah!" He had no clue how to relate that kind of information. Being able to retell a story or retell events from the immediate past, from the distant past, putting events in order, understanding what is being asked, etc. is important and via an ABA program, we went through every issue with him to teach him how. I mean, there are a host of reasons why these kinds of problems are going on. Finding out can direct you how to work on it. It's funny how speech is almost like one of the "final frontier's" in that it's the end product - the part that comes out at the end. So how did it get there? How did the problem happen? Processing? Information retrieval? Auditory? And then worse - a mix of several issues going on at once? lol. That is why a good eval can help you figure it out. It might just be a short term phase. But I am a "hysterical parent" type and do not believe

that kids who already have a neurological glitch should be considered in a group that has a "short term phase" type problem. Mostly because it's never just a short term phase. lol. Well, it might be. But it is usually part of the larger picture and you are just seeing the end result of that interrupted process.

Roxanna"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

( ) Speech pattern question

I had a question, I thought maybe someone here could help. I just noticed this again yesterday when we were at the barber shop, of all places.

My son (10) was diagnosed a little over a year ago, he has not had any speech therapy, as I know some of your kids have. I'm not sure this is even a speech problem or something else- he will start a sentence and repeat the first few words 4 or 5 times until he can get his thought out. Is there a name for this? Is it something that speech therapy would help with? Or is there someone else I should talk to about it?

It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does, I try not to be impatient, I let him get his thought out. But kids will not wait around until he finishes his sentence, I have seen them just walk away while he's talking. I would like to help him with this, does anyone have any advice?

~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~

Suzanne

suzmarkwood