Re: My Aspie is Mildly retarded

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Marcia,

To have a diagnosis of Asperger's, it is necessary to be of at least average

intelligence. The things you are describing, like the shoe tying, are not caused

by intellectual disability. Does your son receive occupational therapy to help

him with life skills? It might really help him.

Bridget

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> I don't post too much because I get easily overwhelmed by all the different

postings...I do read them and I have never noticed but is there anyone out there

that has a child with Aspergers that is mildly retarded. My son is 13 and makes

the honor roll...but can't write or tie his shoes because of low muscle tone. I

am a single parent without shared parenting and because of violent behaviors in

the past it became a neccesity to have home health care aids in everyday. His

negative behaviors have all but stopped and he is a sweetheart and I believe him

to have a photogenic memory.. I just don't know what the future holds and I

really don't know what to do or any other services I can get to help him. I

love this kid more than anything in this world but he is not very motivated when

it comes to self care and his fixation is animals.... I wonder if he will ever

be able to take care of himself on his own...or should I change my perspective?

I am so concerned that he will never have a normal life drive a car have

friends...or a girlfriend. Maybe these things are just prayables? Is there

anyone out there that shares this experience?

>

> Marcia

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Hi Marcia,

Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son, my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding resources and all.

Dawn T.

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The school psychologist said he was mildly retarded...because he did not test well IQ wise. I live in Ohio...and he receives Medicaid...and gets OT adaptive PT and speech at school. I know he is smart with things he enjoys...but I think he didn't do well in the testing process. I don't know what to think.

Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

Hi Marcia,

Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son, my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding resources and all.

Dawn T.

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I believe my son is slow processing, what is the difference between retarded and slow processing? Does anybody knows, please?Thanks, From: "marcial7777@..." <marcial7777@...> Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 6:14:00 PMSubject: Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

The school psychologist said he was mildly retarded...because he did not test well IQ wise. I live in Ohio...and he receives Medicaid...and gets OT adaptive PT and speech at school. I know he is smart with things he enjoys...but I think he didn't do well in the testing process. I don't know what to think.

Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

Hi Marcia,

Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son, my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding resources and all.

Dawn T.

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About IQ: if you don't have a copy of the IQ test, ask for it.

Look at his reasoning skills are they average or above?

There are other scores that are added in for verbal skills,

his is probably average or else his diagnosis would

be autism. Then look at the scores for processing speed,

that may be way below average. His working memory (not long term)

may be well below average.

An IQ has standardized scores. Average is 100.

The real measure of his intelluctual potential is in those reasoning scores.

Another real area of concern is AS kids emotional health.

A person with an obsessive mind is going to find it hard to do school work or

work..

Is he on an anti-depressant or rispedal/abilify? These

medications in up to 60% of kids with " autism " will reduce

compulsive/obessive/perserverating behaviors.

Right now focus on appropriate beahviors, emotional control,

and at home encourage him to get out and bike ride in warm

weather and swim at the community pool if you have one,

see if you can get a membership at the YMCA gifted to your

son. Get him out and doing physical things to strenghten

his muscles and have him play with clay or make things etc

to help with fine motor skills OT won't be enough.

I do think there is hope for your son having a secure

and safe future.

Pam

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> The school psychologist said he was mildly retarded...because he did not test

well IQ wise. I live in Ohio...and he receives Medicaid...and gets OT adaptive

PT and speech at school. I know he is smart with things he enjoys...but I think

he didn't do well in the testing process. I don't know what to think.

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> Hi Marcia,

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> Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to

his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son,

my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle

tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's

Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he

has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track

like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with

now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am

sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are

getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding

resources and all.

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> Dawn T.

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I would not say that your son is retarded at all. Many kids with disabilities

don't do well on IQ but that doesn't mean that they are not intelligent. My son

has had several IQ tests over the years. The first one was done at age 4 with no

adaptations for his disabilities. At the time he had severe speech and fine

motor deficits. The evaluator even told me that if my son had more time he would

have been able to complete the fine motor portion. The speech portion was a

waste of time because my son was almost nonverbal at that point. The result was

a score of 70 or borderline MR. I didn't believe it and never shared it with the

school. When the school wanted to do an IQ test at age 6 I refused to let them

do it because I feared that he would test poorly again and the school would give

up on teaching him anything.

My son has since had IQ tests as part of more comprehensive evaluations. The

evals were done at ages 6.5; 10 & 12.5. All these IQ tests showed my son to be

near genius level. BUT, knowing that my son still had fine motor difficulties

the evaluators used different type of IQ tests which did not include fine motor

tasks (and this includes writing). These later IQ test scores reflect how he

does in school so I believe that these later scores are more accurate.

When my son was younger he received Adapted PE, OT and speech at school. He

continues to receive tutoring for writing skills. He's an high honor roll

student in regular ed. He still struggles to tie his shoes so prefers non lace

shoes. He's 15.

Don't let the school label your son as MR because it will let them set their

expectations of your son at a low level. If need be ask for an independent

evaluation - possibly a full neuropsych - as you disagree with their findings.

Caroline

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> The school psychologist said he was mildly retarded...because he did not test

well IQ wise. I live in Ohio...and he receives Medicaid...and gets OT adaptive

PT and speech at school. I know he is smart with things he enjoys...but I think

he didn't do well in the testing process. I don't know what to think.

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> Hi Marcia,

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> Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to

his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son,

my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle

tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's

Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he

has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track

like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with

now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am

sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are

getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding

resources and all.

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I just received the results of a thorough evaluation and my daughter didn't have high an IQ either. My first reaction was "Oh God, how will she navigate through life." My older daughter had similar scores, however, when she was in fourth grade. We had her re-tested recently and her IQ scores were above average. This time she was wayyy more relaxed.I think with Aspergers, you HAVE to factor in the anxiety. I'm an Aspie too and we are so all over the place with our anxiety and perfectionism and moods--For a child on the honor roll with a possible photographic memory, retarded, seems wayy off base-especially when discussing Aspergers. He may never learn to tie his shoes, he could very well discover the cure for cancer. We Aspies are a scattered, hard-to-figure out bunch!Hang in.From: Pamela <susanonderko@...>Subject: Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 7:45 PM

About IQ: if you don't have a copy of the IQ test, ask for it.

Look at his reasoning skills are they average or above?

There are other scores that are added in for verbal skills,

his is probably average or else his diagnosis would

be autism. Then look at the scores for processing speed,

that may be way below average. His working memory (not long term)

may be well below average.

An IQ has standardized scores. Average is 100.

The real measure of his intelluctual potential is in those reasoning scores.

Another real area of concern is AS kids emotional health.

A person with an obsessive mind is going to find it hard to do school work or work..

Is he on an anti-depressant or rispedal/abilify? These

medications in up to 60% of kids with "autism" will reduce

compulsive/obessive/perserverating behaviors.

Right now focus on appropriate beahviors, emotional control,

and at home encourage him to get out and bike ride in warm

weather and swim at the community pool if you have one,

see if you can get a membership at the YMCA gifted to your

son. Get him out and doing physical things to strenghten

his muscles and have him play with clay or make things etc

to help with fine motor skills OT won't be enough.

I do think there is hope for your son having a secure

and safe future.

Pam

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> The school psychologist said he was mildly retarded...because he did not test well IQ wise. I live in Ohio...and he receives Medicaid...and gets OT adaptive PT and speech at school. I know he is smart with things he enjoys...but I think he didn't do well in the testing process. I don't know what to think.

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> Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son, my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding resources and all.

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Most IQ tests have time limits so it's possible for a child with slow processing

not to test well on an IQ test. Slow processing usually means that a child has

the intelligence to do the work but just may take longer than a NT child to do

it.

Here's a good site about testing measurements and what they mean.

http://www.wrightslaw.com/advoc/articles/tests_measurements.html

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> I believe my son is slow processing, what is the difference between retarded

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> slow processing? Does anybody knows, please?

> Thanks,

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> Subject: Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

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> The school psychologist said he was mildly retarded...because he did not test

> well IQ wise. I live in Ohio...and he receives Medicaid...and gets OT

adaptive

> PT and speech at school. I know he is smart with things he enjoys...but I

think

> he didn't do well in the testing process. I don't know what to think.

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> Hi Marcia,

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> Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to

> his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your

son,

> my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle

> tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's

> Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so

he

> has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track

> like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with

> now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am

> sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are

> getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding

> resources and all.

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> Dawn T.

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Marica - has anyone every mentioned dysgraphia to you since you son still

struggles with the physical aspect of writing? Someone finally dx'ed my son with

it at age 12 after many years of unsuccessful OT for fine motor skills. Here's a

link to learn more about it.

http://www.greatschools.org/special-education/LD-ADHD/dysgraphia-learning-disabi\

lity-writing.gs?content=860

Caroline

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> I don't post too much because I get easily overwhelmed by all the different

postings...I do read them and I have never noticed but is there anyone out there

that has a child with Aspergers that is mildly retarded. My son is 13 and makes

the honor roll...but can't write or tie his shoes because of low muscle tone. I

am a single parent without shared parenting and because of violent behaviors in

the past it became a neccesity to have home health care aids in everyday. His

negative behaviors have all but stopped and he is a sweetheart and I believe him

to have a photogenic memory.. I just don't know what the future holds and I

really don't know what to do or any other services I can get to help him. I

love this kid more than anything in this world but he is not very motivated when

it comes to self care and his fixation is animals.... I wonder if he will ever

be able to take care of himself on his own...or should I change my perspective?

I am so concerned that he will never have a normal life drive a car have

friends...or a girlfriend. Maybe these things are just prayables? Is there

anyone out there that shares this experience?

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> Marcia

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Thank you for answering my question, in fact now in class his tests are unlimited time, and he goes to a room by himself to take a test and they do not time him, which is great.Thank you again, From: Catcelia <c2cats@...> Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:25:31 PMSubject: Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

Most IQ tests have time limits so it's possible for a child with slow processing not to test well on an IQ test. Slow processing usually means that a child has the intelligence to do the work but just may take longer than a NT child to do it.

Here's a good site about testing measurements and what they mean.

http://www.wrightslaw.com/advoc/articles/tests_measurements.html

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> I believe my son is slow processing, what is the difference between retarded and

> slow processing? Does anybody knows, please?

> Thanks,

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> The school psychologist said he was mildly retarded...because he did not test

> well IQ wise. I live in Ohio...and he receives Medicaid...and gets OT adaptive

> PT and speech at school. I know he is smart with things he enjoys...but I think

> he didn't do well in the testing process. I don't know what to think.

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> Hi Marcia,

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> Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to

> his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son,

> my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle

> tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's

> Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he

> has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track

> like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with

> now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am

> sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are

> getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding

> resources and all.

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> Dawn T.

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Usually if a person's IQ is under 60 they are considered very

impaired. But you have to look at the reasoning subtest

on the IQ test. Someone with a test score between 80 - 100 or

over is low average to above average in reasoning skills.

Also people judge each other on reasoning and verbal skills

if you have a lot of knowledge and you are verbally strong

people will judge you average or above average.

Someone with slow processing speed would not like a job

as an air traffic controller but may like a job that

requires methodical attention to details.

Someone with poor working memory or attentional issues

may be very disorganized and messy. Yet there reasoning

skills can help them problem solve and get someone to

help them.

I hope this helps.

Do not get thrown off by the combined IQ score. You have

to look at reasoning skills, verbal skills etc.

Pam

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> I believe my son is slow processing, what is the difference between retarded

and

> slow processing? Does anybody knows, please?

> Thanks,

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> Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 6:14:00 PM

> Subject: Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

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> The school psychologist said he was mildly retarded...because he did not test

> well IQ wise. I live in Ohio...and he receives Medicaid...and gets OT

adaptive

> PT and speech at school. I know he is smart with things he enjoys...but I

think

> he didn't do well in the testing process. I don't know what to think.

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> Hi Marcia,

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> Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to

> his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your

son,

> my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle

> tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's

> Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so

he

> has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track

> like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with

> now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am

> sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are

> getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding

> resources and all.

>

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> Dawn T.

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If he is making the honor roll, what makes you think he is retarded?

Roxanna

“Our lives begin to end the day we

become silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr.

( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

I don't post too much because I get easily overwhelmed by all the different postings...I do read them and I have never noticed but is there anyone out there that has a child with Aspergers that is mildly retarded. My son is 13 and makes the honor roll...but can't write or tie his shoes because of low muscle tone. I am a single parent without shared parenting and because of violent behaviors in the past it became a neccesity to have home health care aids in everyday. His negative behaviors have all but stopped and he is a sweetheart and I believe him to have a photogenic memory.. I just don't know what the future holds and I really don't know what to do or any other services I can get to help him. I love this kid more than anything in this world but he is not very motivated when it comes to self care and his fixation is animals.... I wonder if he will ever be able to take care of himself on his own...or should I change my perspective? I am so concerned that he will never have a normal life drive a car have friends...or a girlfriend. Maybe these things are just prayables? Is there anyone out there that shares this experience?

Marcia

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YEa Pam I do all those things he attened a summer camp where they swam everyday etc....but they dropped his waiver and he can't go back....I will ask for him to be IQ tested again.. I didn't know that..He takes abilify and Tenex for hyper arousal. It doesn't seem like OT is enough as you said. And I feel he is smarter than the IQ test results came up with thanks for your input.. I do need a copy of his IQ test.

M

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> Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son, my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding resources and all.

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> Dawn T.

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....I think is more slow processing than retarded to ...I am not sure why he was labled that by the school...the autism clinic did not say that.

M

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Hi Marcia,

Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son, my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding resources and all.

Dawn T.

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Thanks Caroline...I didn't feel the test was an accurate evaluation either...like I said I am almost positive he has a photogenic memory..

Thanks for sharing your story.

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> Hi Marcia,

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> Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son, my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding resources and all.

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> Dawn T.

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Probably, but I still do not know the difference. Is it in the IQ test? From: "marcial7777@..."

<marcial7777@...> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:01:06 AMSubject: Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

....I think is more slow processing than retarded to ...I am not sure why he was labled that by the school...the autism clinic did not say that.

M

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Hi Marcia,

Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son, my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding resources and all.

Dawn T.

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I agree ..and its funny you should mention being an Aspie yourself...I score very high on the autism scale myself although my diagnosis is bipolar. takes Abilify and Tenex for hyper arousal...and it has slowed him down somewhat. I like you just couldn't shake the feeling he isn't retarded...but he does infact display ALL of the symptoms of Aspergers.

M

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> Hi Marcia,

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> Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son, my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding resources and all.

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> Dawn T.

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Its what that damn school Pyschologist said last year....but I'm finding out differently from the group..

( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

I don't post too much because I get easily overwhelmed by all the different postings...I do read them and I have never noticed but is there anyone out there that has a child with Aspergers that is mildly retarded. My son is 13 and makes the honor roll...but can't write or tie his shoes because of low muscle tone. I am a single parent without shared parenting and because of violent behaviors in the past it became a neccesity to have home health care aids in everyday. His negative behaviors have all but stopped and he is a sweetheart and I believe him to have a photogenic memory.. I just don't know what the future holds and I really don't know what to do or any other services I can get to help him. I love this kid more than anything in this world but he is not very motivated when it comes to self care and his fixation is animals.... I wonder if he will ever be able to take care of himself on his own...or should I change my perspective? I am so concerned that he will never have a normal life drive a car have friends...or a girlfriend. Maybe these things are just prayables? Is there anyone out there that shares this experience?

Marcia

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My son is not have an IQ definict overall but had a huge disparity between the two scores they give - his totoal score looks fine but the disparity showed where he was havign trouble cognitively. I would ask for specifics too and see what your child had difficulty with and what he did not. My son was perseverating on his special interest so much he had difficulty finishing the test the fist time it was given but when it was done 6 months later by anotehr person he did much better as well. I think the second group that tested him coached him more to stay on task and answer teh questions where the first allowed him to say I do not know more, but it is important to feel you have a valid test result and to know all the circumstances. My son if he is having a bad day can do poorly on any test

and if a good day the complete opposite. Participation and being engaged really does make a difference.

From: "marcial7777@..." <marcial7777@...> Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 5:14:00 PMSubject: Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

The school psychologist said he was mildly retarded...because he did not test well IQ wise. I live in Ohio...and he receives Medicaid...and gets OT adaptive PT and speech at school. I know he is smart with things he enjoys...but I think he didn't do well in the testing process. I don't know what to think.

Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

Hi Marcia,

Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son, my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding resources and all.

Dawn T.

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Sorry, I should have read ahead. I would never take a dx of retardation from a school psychologist, especially if you don't believe he is retarded and he is on the honor roll. This would suggest that the scores were not interpreted very well.

As for the scores, as I posted the other day, you cannot always average these scores and get an accurate average. This happens a lot for kids with LD's present - they score really high in places, really low in places, a few in between scores and then when this is averaged, it can show many variations that do not really accurately describe the child. Also, the older these kids get, the lower their scores can go just due to lack of remediation.

What you need to do is get a copy of the test scores - all of them, subtest scores included. Often with kids who have LD's, you will see the sub test scores vary a lot - from low to high. Someone sent the link for wrightslaw on test scores - great article to read and learn about testing.

Roxanna

“Our lives begin to end the day we

become silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr.

Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

Hi Marcia,

Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son, my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding resources and all.

Dawn T.

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Marcia, why do you think he is retarded? This sounds a lot like my son,

except mine is still horribly violent. My son is in the GATE (gifted and

talented ed) program, but he can barely tie his shoes or hold a pencil. He has

very poor personal hygiene but some of this may be because he is a 12 yo boy.

My son also will have an aide, as of next week. It is called a Therapeutic

Behavioral Services Aide.

My son does NOT have a photogenic memory. In fact he has serious short term

memory loss. But he is still a brilliant and intelligent child.

>

> I don't post too much because I get easily overwhelmed by all the different

postings...I do read them and I have never noticed but is there anyone out there

that has a child with Aspergers that is mildly retarded. My son is 13 and makes

the honor roll...but can't write or tie his shoes because of low muscle tone. I

am a single parent without shared parenting and because of violent behaviors in

the past it became a neccesity to have home health care aids in everyday. His

negative behaviors have all but stopped and he is a sweetheart and I believe him

to have a photogenic memory.. I just don't know what the future holds and I

really don't know what to do or any other services I can get to help him. I

love this kid more than anything in this world but he is not very motivated when

it comes to self care and his fixation is animals.... I wonder if he will ever

be able to take care of himself on his own...or should I change my perspective?

I am so concerned that he will never have a normal life drive a car have

friends...or a girlfriend. Maybe these things are just prayables? Is there

anyone out there that shares this experience?

>

> Marcia

>

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Thank you Roxanna...I don't want to believe he is retarded either...I was in total shock when the school said that and don't know why I accepted it as truth knowing what I know about my son..

Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

Hi Marcia,

Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son, my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding resources and all.

Dawn T.

[Guest guest]

My son is also super bright, but has a hard time with tying his shoes. He is not

the best about hygine either. Lucas has just started to have slightly better

muscle tone in his sholders so he has gotten better at handwriting. His shoe

laces are one of our next hurdles to tackle. Having moter issues, or having

hygine issues are not signs of mental retardation. Please don't let anyone tell

you he can't do anything. It might take longer to learn the skills but he will

and can. I remember when Lucas was diagnosed, I cried becasue I thought he was

never going to do any of the things I wanted for him. Then we regrouped and

looked at his as a special person. He is becoming an amazing person. Be proud of

him and just love him. I am here for you.

> >

> > I don't post too much because I get easily overwhelmed by all the different

postings...I do read them and I have never noticed but is there anyone out there

that has a child with Aspergers that is mildly retarded. My son is 13 and makes

the honor roll...but can't write or tie his shoes because of low muscle tone. I

am a single parent without shared parenting and because of violent behaviors in

the past it became a neccesity to have home health care aids in everyday. His

negative behaviors have all but stopped and he is a sweetheart and I believe him

to have a photogenic memory.. I just don't know what the future holds and I

really don't know what to do or any other services I can get to help him. I

love this kid more than anything in this world but he is not very motivated when

it comes to self care and his fixation is animals.... I wonder if he will ever

be able to take care of himself on his own...or should I change my perspective?

I am so concerned that he will never have a normal life drive a car have

friends...or a girlfriend. Maybe these things are just prayables? Is there

anyone out there that shares this experience?

> >

> > Marcia

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks ...I'm going to talk to the doc at the autism clinic about this....and I might mention it at the IEP coming up at the end of the month...thanks for your input. I really don't know why I let this school psychologist bully me into thinking.

Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

Hi Marcia,

Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son, my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding resources and all.

Dawn T.

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I really should not type so fast. Amazing you could read that. School Psychologists in my past experience differ in their knowledge and expertise level than Children's Hospital level psychologists. They have had minimal training and only experience with teh kids they have seen come through their schools, so not as wide a vantage point as those working through major clinics. Good luck to you.

From: "marcial7777@..." <marcial7777@...> Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 11:35:10 AMSubject: Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

Thanks ...I'm going to talk to the doc at the autism clinic about this....and I might mention it at the IEP coming up at the end of the month...thanks for your input. I really don't know why I let this school psychologist bully me into thinking.

Re: ( ) My Aspie is Mildly retarded

Hi Marcia,

Was your son diagnosed mildly retarded or is this what you are thinking do to his delays? My son with Aspergers has a lot of the same behaviors as your son, my son also did not tie his shoes until 6th grade due to issues with muscle tone. But I would say unless you have an official diagnosis from your child's Doctor, I would not consider your child retarded. He has autism/Aspergers so he has some developmental delays. Hopefully things will come, just not on track like Neuro typical children. I am not sure what services you are set up with now, what state are you in and do you have medical insurance or Medicaid? I am sure if you are able to tell us a little more of what services, etc you are getting now, some of the parents on this list can help you with finding resources and all.

Dawn T.