Guest guest Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Ever have days like they broke you. And your so stressed makes. Emotional . Just. Hard being super parent all the time. Dealing with arguments and meltdowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 I know exactly what you mean. My boyfriend complimented me on how patient I was with my son the other night, even though he was being mean and hard to get along with. He said God chose me for a reason as most people could not be that patient. While the compliment felt good, it also made me feel like the worst, most abusive parent in the world when I was in his face screaming at him the next day!! I get to a point where I can no longer take the disrespect!! I get sick of having to be so patient and get angry that other parents have it so easy. I can't ever imagine needed patients for my boyfriends son...he is the easiest child ever!! I do not imagine his parents have a clue how easy they have it (although I am sure my boyfriend does)...or at least appreciate it (then again, I may just not feel that way)!! > > Ever have days like they broke you. And your so stressed makes. Emotional . > Just. Hard being super parent all the time. Dealing with arguments and meltdowns. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Thanks for writing some days I have patients of a saint some days I can't take it. I walk out leave with his dad and go to lunch. Cool off. Sent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: "cmt263" <gina9431@...>Sender: Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:41:45 -0000< >Reply Subject: ( ) Re: roller coaster ride I know exactly what you mean. My boyfriend complimented me on how patient I was with my son the other night, even though he was being mean and hard to get along with. He said God chose me for a reason as most people could not be that patient. While the compliment felt good, it also made me feel like the worst, most abusive parent in the world when I was in his face screaming at him the next day!! I get to a point where I can no longer take the disrespect!! I get sick of having to be so patient and get angry that other parents have it so easy. I can't ever imagine needed patients for my boyfriends son...he is the easiest child ever!! I do not imagine his parents have a clue how easy they have it (although I am sure my boyfriend does)...or at least appreciate it (then again, I may just not feel that way)!!>> Ever have days like they broke you. And your so stressed makes. Emotional .> Just. Hard being super parent all the time. Dealing with arguments and meltdowns.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Yes I was extremely stressed when my daughter was younger and I had few breaks. If I focus my life solely as being her aide in the evening and weekends and also keep the house managed (laudry etc) it is a very lonely life although less stressful. These kids want so much predictability but there is no way to sustain that level at home. Life would be too restricted for everyone else. I have no idea how parents with other children and those that work can cope. I think in retrospect over the last 13 years the most valuable therapy or treatment was from the behaviorist. You realize from them the answer is not more punishment, arguing or fighting. It is often in structure and shaping. I also think medication was critical to helping reduce stress that rippled through the family. And lastly the behaviorist helped me realize that we were just doing too much and expecting too much compliance. It is hard to finally realize your child just can't keep up and stay emotionally regulated (even with medication). Take care of yourself, please. Pam > > Ever have days like they broke you. And your so stressed makes. Emotional . > Just. Hard being super parent all the time. Dealing with arguments and meltdowns. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Thanks for writing yesterday. Was one of really bad daysSent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: "Pamela" <susanonderko@...>Sender: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:33:47 -0000< >Reply Subject: ( ) Re: roller coaster ride Yes I was extremely stressed when my daughter was youngerand I had few breaks. If I focus my life solely as being heraide in the evening and weekends and also keep the housemanaged (laudry etc) it is a very lonely life although lessstressful. These kids want so much predictability but thereis no way to sustain that level at home. Life would be too restricted for everyone else. I have no idea how parents with other children and those that workcan cope. I think in retrospect over the last 13 years the most valuabletherapy or treatment was from the behaviorist. You realizefrom them the answer is not more punishment, arguingor fighting. It is often in structure and shaping. I also think medication was critical to helping reducestress that rippled through the family.And lastly the behaviorist helped me realize that we werejust doing too much and expecting too much compliance.It is hard to finally realize your child just can't keep up and stay emotionally regulated (even with medication).Take care of yourself, please. Pam >> Ever have days like they broke you. And your so stressed makes. Emotional .> Just. Hard being super parent all the time. Dealing with arguments and meltdowns.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Hi ,   A lot of times when you are treating Lyme you are looking for areaction..any reaction. You could feel better or much worse. The fact that you " crashed " (would like to know more specifics) is an indicator that something is happening, Perhaps a die off and the processing of the toxins which actually makes your symptoms worse before they get better(herxing). The real time war with Lyme is an up and down process. When I have changed my meds in the past I became happy when I got worse as I new that I was about to get another level up on my healing. Normally ,after this process, stamina, cognitive issues and more would improve and I would look for the next round that would cause a reaction to improve again.    Have faith and persistence as a better you is ahead.         Jeff    From: leaning_pine_ranch <leaning_pine_ranch@...> Subject: [ ] roller coaster ride Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:25 AM  how to start?? I have been watching the messages here for about 3 months, all have helped, thanks My story is, I have had lyme for 30 years or so. the sad part is I didn't know I had lyme and so my 2 kids also have it. they are 18 and 25. I diagnosed myself 12 years ago, just couldnt get a doc to agree with me until 2 years ago. My daughter has had many neck problems, i empathize with the others who have posted about this subject. the muscles in her neck pulled so hard to one side that it litterally dislocated her heck bones. She has severe joint pain when off of antibiotics. she is a performance violin major in college and this causes alot of problems if we don't keep her on antibioitcs.recently the muscles in her jaw tightened and she had severe jaw pain. it is always something. my son, has the severe fatigue and pain, but refuses to admit he has lyme, even though he tested positive. As for me, wow, it has been a life of mostly pain and fatigue. I get so that I just want to go to my heavenly home. I know I can post that here, because you all understand. after 30 years of fighting this I am so tired. I have been on antibiotics for 2 years, and started the protocol 6 weeks ago. I am slso on doxy. so here is my question, sorry it took me so long to get to it! I have totally crashed again. could it be herxing or do I need to up the antibiotics? I am on doxy 800 mg a day. and the core protocal of Buhners. I am taking 2 of all the herbs 3 times a day. also teasel and stephania. I would love to get off the antibiotics, however I feel so much better when I am taking 3 different kinds. I am having a hard time seeing that the herbs are working so I guess I just need to hear that either I need to give it time, or any other suggestions would be great. I question whether I need to do some detoxing????? I am self treating at this point, my husband hasn't been working and my llmd is very expensive and didn't know anything about herbs. so my local doc is trying to work with me, but it is hard when he doesn't believe late stage lyme exists. so you all are my final hope to help, sorry to put so much on you, but I really could use some advise. one last ? do you think it really matters where you get the herbs from? thanks so much for all of your other posts, I have been encouraged by you. may we all beat this bug!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 On Jan 19, 2011, at 6:25 AM, leaning_pine_ranch wrote: > Hi , > One little thing that may help your daughter is to adjust the way she is holding the violin. Traditional methods force us players to really tweak the left arm, clamp down with the left jaw and raise the left shoulder. If you imagine doing this for awhile without the violin you can see the stress quite vividly. I have greatly improved my problems and encountered much more ease with playing and a much better tone by learning the New Approach method by Kato Havas. There is a lot to say about all this as it's a whole mental, physical, emotional shift but in general, neck problems come with the territory, even without Lyme, so it is helpful to at least understand how to ease tensions and position the violin and bow with an analysis of the balances rather than by clutching. Maybe she could check it out or go to a summer program... > My daughter has had many neck problems, i empathize with the others > who have posted about this subject. the muscles in her neck pulled > so hard to one side that it litterally dislocated her heck bones. > She has severe joint pain when off of antibiotics. she is a > performance violin major in college and this causes alot of > problems if we don't keep her on antibioitcs.recently the muscles > in her jaw tightened and she had severe jaw pain. it is always > something. > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New > Topic > > Messages in this topic (1) > RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 15 > Visit Your Group > Buy Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme > Borreliosis And Its Coinfections by Buhner at one of these > locations: > http://tinyurl.com/3bgm5d > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Jeff I understand what you are saying, but I sure would prefer a good reaction not this fatigue that drains me to the core. other symptoms are joint pain in my elbow, ankle and hips. My knees feel so stiff and swollen however they don't look swollen. the normal brain fog, I feel like every organ inside of me is inflamed and I have a hard time breathing. Have had alot of sweats and chills also. Through the years I have noticed that my immune sysytem is in overdrive. I actually feel so much better if someone is sick around me, I never get sick. over the summer I did really well, the first time in 20 years. I was taking 3 different antibiotics. then they wore off and quit working, and I have been like I am now since october with the exception of a few days while my husband was sick. I keep thinking that someday something will work for me, but it seems that in time all things stop working. I realize I haven't been on this protocal long enough to tell much, but hopefully what you are saying is correct and time will show better results. I would love to hear if you or anyone else has anymore suggestions. I am adding Flagyl to the doxy to see if I can get so i can function somewhat. > > > From: leaning_pine_ranch <leaning_pine_ranch@...> > Subject: [ ] roller coaster ride > > Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:25 AM > > >  > > > > how to start?? I have been watching the messages here for about 3 months, all have helped, thanks > > My story is, I have had lyme for 30 years or so. the sad part is I didn't know I had lyme and so my 2 kids also have it. they are 18 and 25. I diagnosed myself 12 years ago, just couldnt get a doc to agree with me until 2 years ago. > > My daughter has had many neck problems, i empathize with the others who have posted about this subject. the muscles in her neck pulled so hard to one side that it litterally dislocated her heck bones. She has severe joint pain when off of antibiotics. she is a performance violin major in college and this causes alot of problems if we don't keep her on antibioitcs.recently the muscles in her jaw tightened and she had severe jaw pain. it is always something. > > my son, has the severe fatigue and pain, but refuses to admit he has lyme, even though he tested positive. > > As for me, wow, it has been a life of mostly pain and fatigue. I get so that I just want to go to my heavenly home. I know I can post that here, because you all understand. after 30 years of fighting this I am so tired. I have been on antibiotics for 2 years, and started the protocol 6 weeks ago. I am slso on doxy. > > so here is my question, sorry it took me so long to get to it! > > I have totally crashed again. could it be herxing or do I need to up the antibiotics? I am on doxy 800 mg a day. and the core protocal of Buhners. I am taking 2 of all the herbs 3 times a day. also teasel and stephania. I would love to get off the antibiotics, however I feel so much better when I am taking 3 different kinds. I am having a hard time seeing that the herbs are working so I guess I just need to hear that either I need to give it time, or any other suggestions would be great. I question whether I need to do some detoxing????? > > I am self treating at this point, my husband hasn't been working and my llmd is very expensive and didn't know anything about herbs. so my local doc is trying to work with me, but it is hard when he doesn't believe late stage lyme exists. > > so you all are my final hope to help, sorry to put so much on you, but I really could use some advise. > > one last ? do you think it really matters where you get the herbs from? > > thanks so much for all of your other posts, I have been encouraged by you. may we all beat this bug!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 , I follow this group although not this protocol at the moment. I think 6 weeks is a very short time to ramp up to the dosage you mention. You might have given yourself a massive herx. I also follow the salt/c protocol and often read of people ramping up too quickly (there is a very specific recommendation for building up) and feeling like they are dying. You might consider backing off or even giving yourself a break for a few days. Make sure you are detoxing with binders like activated charcoal, apple pectin, chlorella (taken away from supplements as these will pull them from the body) and/or epsom salt baths FIR sauna, aerobic exercise even if just a short walk, etc. Eating/drinking to alkalinize the body (water with lemon juice, 1/2 t baking soda in a glass of water, or Alka Seltzer Gold) will also help. deb > > > > > I have totally crashed again. could it be herxing or do I need to up the antibiotics? I am on doxy 800 mg a day. > > 800 mg, are you sure? that is an awfully big amount, unless you are extremely overweight ... I had llready trouble taking 300 mg daily. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 sorry you are right it is 400mg a day. I have taken this amount several times and had no problem taking it. > > 800 mg, are you sure? that is an awfully big amount, unless you are extremely overweight ... I had llready trouble taking 300 mg daily. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Anne, I am so sorry to hear you are at this point also, may we both be well someday. my thoughts are with you > > > , Wish I could help you girl. We are in the same boat. > > Anne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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