Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Karmen how much are they who carries them Subject: Re: Riding a Bike To: Autism_in_Girls Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 7:29 PM Winther Trikes may make a large 3 wheel tricycle. Bikes with training wheels are very unstable and enhance the feeling of toppling over. A trike is sturdier. My daughter has a Winther Trike and she had no problem riding that. However, we got her a bike with training wheels this past Christmas and she doesn't enjoy 'trying' to ride it at all. When I insist, the look on her face is so serious and unhappy that I only have her go around the block one time then let her put it away. Karmen Riding a Bike Hello; My daughter is 9 years old and afraid to ride a bicycle - even if it has training wheels. Does anyone have any tips on how to teach her or other kinds of bikes she can ride? in Ajax, ON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Karmen how much are they who carries them Subject: Re: Riding a Bike To: Autism_in_Girls Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 7:29 PM Winther Trikes may make a large 3 wheel tricycle. Bikes with training wheels are very unstable and enhance the feeling of toppling over. A trike is sturdier. My daughter has a Winther Trike and she had no problem riding that. However, we got her a bike with training wheels this past Christmas and she doesn't enjoy 'trying' to ride it at all. When I insist, the look on her face is so serious and unhappy that I only have her go around the block one time then let her put it away. Karmen Riding a Bike Hello; My daughter is 9 years old and afraid to ride a bicycle - even if it has training wheels. Does anyone have any tips on how to teach her or other kinds of bikes she can ride? in Ajax, ON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Karmen how much are they who carries them Subject: Re: Riding a Bike To: Autism_in_Girls Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 7:29 PM Winther Trikes may make a large 3 wheel tricycle. Bikes with training wheels are very unstable and enhance the feeling of toppling over. A trike is sturdier. My daughter has a Winther Trike and she had no problem riding that. However, we got her a bike with training wheels this past Christmas and she doesn't enjoy 'trying' to ride it at all. When I insist, the look on her face is so serious and unhappy that I only have her go around the block one time then let her put it away. Karmen Riding a Bike Hello; My daughter is 9 years old and afraid to ride a bicycle - even if it has training wheels. Does anyone have any tips on how to teach her or other kinds of bikes she can ride? in Ajax, ON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 My 9 year old girl is the same way but she will ride a big trike at school without any problems. Funny, the trike at school looks like it is from 1952! I think the trike is much more stable then the bike with training wheels and that is why she must feel safer and more secure on it. I am looking into a bike conversion kit at this site: http://www.tri-spin.com/ It is about $250 (Much cheaper then some " special needs " bikes/trikes). I was also looking at the Fat Wheels training wheels because they seem to be more stable then regular small training wheels. http://www.fatwheels.com/ Tina > > Hello; > > My daughter is 9 years old and afraid to ride a bicycle - even if it > has training wheels. Does anyone have any tips on how to teach her or > other kinds of bikes she can ride? > in Ajax, ON > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 My 9 year old girl is the same way but she will ride a big trike at school without any problems. Funny, the trike at school looks like it is from 1952! I think the trike is much more stable then the bike with training wheels and that is why she must feel safer and more secure on it. I am looking into a bike conversion kit at this site: http://www.tri-spin.com/ It is about $250 (Much cheaper then some " special needs " bikes/trikes). I was also looking at the Fat Wheels training wheels because they seem to be more stable then regular small training wheels. http://www.fatwheels.com/ Tina > > Hello; > > My daughter is 9 years old and afraid to ride a bicycle - even if it > has training wheels. Does anyone have any tips on how to teach her or > other kinds of bikes she can ride? > in Ajax, ON > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 My 9 year old girl is the same way but she will ride a big trike at school without any problems. Funny, the trike at school looks like it is from 1952! I think the trike is much more stable then the bike with training wheels and that is why she must feel safer and more secure on it. I am looking into a bike conversion kit at this site: http://www.tri-spin.com/ It is about $250 (Much cheaper then some " special needs " bikes/trikes). I was also looking at the Fat Wheels training wheels because they seem to be more stable then regular small training wheels. http://www.fatwheels.com/ Tina > > Hello; > > My daughter is 9 years old and afraid to ride a bicycle - even if it > has training wheels. Does anyone have any tips on how to teach her or > other kinds of bikes she can ride? > in Ajax, ON > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 My Daughter had the exact same problem, We purchased a roller coaster car from overstock.com for 39.00 just for fun, You power the car with only your arms, it took my daughter a little bit to learn it, but once she did the entire hand eye coordination thing just kind of linked with her and she was riding her bike within days, we in no way purchased this for that reason but instead were absolutely thrilled none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 My Daughter had the exact same problem, We purchased a roller coaster car from overstock.com for 39.00 just for fun, You power the car with only your arms, it took my daughter a little bit to learn it, but once she did the entire hand eye coordination thing just kind of linked with her and she was riding her bike within days, we in no way purchased this for that reason but instead were absolutely thrilled none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 My Daughter had the exact same problem, We purchased a roller coaster car from overstock.com for 39.00 just for fun, You power the car with only your arms, it took my daughter a little bit to learn it, but once she did the entire hand eye coordination thing just kind of linked with her and she was riding her bike within days, we in no way purchased this for that reason but instead were absolutely thrilled none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 That's a good point. Allie just hated when her bike w/training wheels would " wobble " . She was happy if she could sit on her 2 wheeler w/o the trainers and push with her feet. She didn't feel safe when the training wheels would bump the ground as she picked her feet up to peddle. Sandi In a message dated 9/8/2008 10:02:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, cuches@... writes: I think the trike is much more stable then the bike with training wheels and that is why she must feel safer and more secure on it. I am looking into a bike conversion kit at this site: **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 I ordered mine on-line. I don't remember the company I purchased it from, but I'm sure I did a google search ('Winther Trikes') and I'm equally sure that I purchased it from the lowest priced seller. Its been a while. Karmen Riding a Bike Hello; My daughter is 9 years old and afraid to ride a bicycle - even if it has training wheels. Does anyone have any tips on how to teach her or other kinds of bikes she can ride? in Ajax, ON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 I ordered mine on-line. I don't remember the company I purchased it from, but I'm sure I did a google search ('Winther Trikes') and I'm equally sure that I purchased it from the lowest priced seller. Its been a while. Karmen Riding a Bike Hello; My daughter is 9 years old and afraid to ride a bicycle - even if it has training wheels. Does anyone have any tips on how to teach her or other kinds of bikes she can ride? in Ajax, ON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 i am looking for a roller coaster car on overstock and cant find it what is it exactly? Subject: Re: Riding a Bike To: Autism_in_Girls Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:42 AM My Daughter had the exact same problem, We purchased a roller coaster car from overstock.com for 39.00 just for fun, You power the car with only your arms, it took my daughter a little bit to learn it, but once she did the entire hand eye coordination thing just kind of linked with her and she was riding her bike within days, we in no way purchased this for that reason but instead were absolutely thrilled none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Someone posted on another yahoo group the look on eBay at a place called California Scooter Trikes Wagons. They purchased a blue low rider bike (3 wheels I believe) and it is supposed to be a really cool bike that the other typical kids in the neighborhood love to ride also. I haven't checked it out yet, but I saved the post from the other group, so that I could look at it later. Karmen Re: Riding a Bike To: Autism_in_Girls Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:42 AM My Daughter had the exact same problem, We purchased a roller coaster car from overstock.com for 39.00 just for fun, You power the car with only your arms, it took my daughter a little bit to learn it, but once she did the entire hand eye coordination thing just kind of linked with her and she was riding her bike within days, we in no way purchased this for that reason but instead were absolutely thrilled none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 There's a great video that teaches you how to teach someone else to ride. My hubby tried for several years to teach our HFA boy how to ride. It was no fun and he never got anywhere with it. My son would actually try to fall so he could quit. Using the video's technique my hubby had him and his younger brother up and riding within 20 minutes -- no tears, no fuss. You actually teach them how to balance while they're sitting still on the bike with their feet on the ground -- then you work up to them riding. The name of the video is " Pedal Magic " . We got it from Amazon about 5 years ago. It was about $20. I highly reccommend it. -- Cassie kcboone wrote: > I ordered mine on-line. I don't remember the company I purchased it > from, but I'm sure I did a google search ('Winther Trikes') and I'm > equally sure that I purchased it from the lowest priced seller. Its > been a while. > > Karmen > Riding a Bike > > Hello; > > My daughter is 9 years old and afraid to ride a bicycle - even if it > has training wheels. Does anyone have any tips on how to teach her or > other kinds of bikes she can ride? > in Ajax, ON > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 There's a great video that teaches you how to teach someone else to ride. My hubby tried for several years to teach our HFA boy how to ride. It was no fun and he never got anywhere with it. My son would actually try to fall so he could quit. Using the video's technique my hubby had him and his younger brother up and riding within 20 minutes -- no tears, no fuss. You actually teach them how to balance while they're sitting still on the bike with their feet on the ground -- then you work up to them riding. The name of the video is " Pedal Magic " . We got it from Amazon about 5 years ago. It was about $20. I highly reccommend it. -- Cassie kcboone wrote: > I ordered mine on-line. I don't remember the company I purchased it > from, but I'm sure I did a google search ('Winther Trikes') and I'm > equally sure that I purchased it from the lowest priced seller. Its > been a while. > > Karmen > Riding a Bike > > Hello; > > My daughter is 9 years old and afraid to ride a bicycle - even if it > has training wheels. Does anyone have any tips on how to teach her or > other kinds of bikes she can ride? > in Ajax, ON > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 There's a great video that teaches you how to teach someone else to ride. My hubby tried for several years to teach our HFA boy how to ride. It was no fun and he never got anywhere with it. My son would actually try to fall so he could quit. Using the video's technique my hubby had him and his younger brother up and riding within 20 minutes -- no tears, no fuss. You actually teach them how to balance while they're sitting still on the bike with their feet on the ground -- then you work up to them riding. The name of the video is " Pedal Magic " . We got it from Amazon about 5 years ago. It was about $20. I highly reccommend it. -- Cassie kcboone wrote: > I ordered mine on-line. I don't remember the company I purchased it > from, but I'm sure I did a google search ('Winther Trikes') and I'm > equally sure that I purchased it from the lowest priced seller. Its > been a while. > > Karmen > Riding a Bike > > Hello; > > My daughter is 9 years old and afraid to ride a bicycle - even if it > has training wheels. Does anyone have any tips on how to teach her or > other kinds of bikes she can ride? > in Ajax, ON > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 My husband writes reviews for Recumbent and Tandem Rider magazine (http://www.rtrmag.com/) and they've covered a lot of different trikes that are really cool. They're low to the ground and look like racing trikes (some of them are). Some have the two wheels in front (tadpole) and the others have the two wheels in the back (delta). They're great for folks with balance problems -- I have rheumatoid arthritis and my balance is lousy so I ride one. Some of them are pretty pricy, some are less. Most are adjustable for riders of different sizes. There's one -- Hase KettWiesel -- that has a special attachment on the back so you can hook two of them together to make a tandem. Then if your kid isn't up to riding by themselves you can hook them together then later you can easily unhook them and ride them seperately. -- Cassie kcboone wrote: > Someone posted on another yahoo group the look on eBay at a place > called California Scooter Trikes Wagons. They purchased a blue low > rider bike (3 wheels I believe) and it is supposed to be a really cool > bike that the other typical kids in the neighborhood love to ride > also. I haven't checked it out yet, but I saved the post from the > other group, so that I could look at it later. > > Karmen > Re: Riding a Bike > To: Autism_in_Girls > <mailto:Autism_in_Girls%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:42 AM > > My Daughter had the exact same problem, We purchased a roller coaster > car from overstock.com for 39.00 just for fun, You power the car with > only your arms, it took my daughter a little bit to learn it, but once > she did the entire hand eye coordination thing just kind of linked > with her and she was riding her bike within days, we in no way > purchased this for that reason but instead were absolutely thrilled > none the less. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 My husband writes reviews for Recumbent and Tandem Rider magazine (http://www.rtrmag.com/) and they've covered a lot of different trikes that are really cool. They're low to the ground and look like racing trikes (some of them are). Some have the two wheels in front (tadpole) and the others have the two wheels in the back (delta). They're great for folks with balance problems -- I have rheumatoid arthritis and my balance is lousy so I ride one. Some of them are pretty pricy, some are less. Most are adjustable for riders of different sizes. There's one -- Hase KettWiesel -- that has a special attachment on the back so you can hook two of them together to make a tandem. Then if your kid isn't up to riding by themselves you can hook them together then later you can easily unhook them and ride them seperately. -- Cassie kcboone wrote: > Someone posted on another yahoo group the look on eBay at a place > called California Scooter Trikes Wagons. They purchased a blue low > rider bike (3 wheels I believe) and it is supposed to be a really cool > bike that the other typical kids in the neighborhood love to ride > also. I haven't checked it out yet, but I saved the post from the > other group, so that I could look at it later. > > Karmen > Re: Riding a Bike > To: Autism_in_Girls > <mailto:Autism_in_Girls%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:42 AM > > My Daughter had the exact same problem, We purchased a roller coaster > car from overstock.com for 39.00 just for fun, You power the car with > only your arms, it took my daughter a little bit to learn it, but once > she did the entire hand eye coordination thing just kind of linked > with her and she was riding her bike within days, we in no way > purchased this for that reason but instead were absolutely thrilled > none the less. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 My husband writes reviews for Recumbent and Tandem Rider magazine (http://www.rtrmag.com/) and they've covered a lot of different trikes that are really cool. They're low to the ground and look like racing trikes (some of them are). Some have the two wheels in front (tadpole) and the others have the two wheels in the back (delta). They're great for folks with balance problems -- I have rheumatoid arthritis and my balance is lousy so I ride one. Some of them are pretty pricy, some are less. Most are adjustable for riders of different sizes. There's one -- Hase KettWiesel -- that has a special attachment on the back so you can hook two of them together to make a tandem. Then if your kid isn't up to riding by themselves you can hook them together then later you can easily unhook them and ride them seperately. -- Cassie kcboone wrote: > Someone posted on another yahoo group the look on eBay at a place > called California Scooter Trikes Wagons. They purchased a blue low > rider bike (3 wheels I believe) and it is supposed to be a really cool > bike that the other typical kids in the neighborhood love to ride > also. I haven't checked it out yet, but I saved the post from the > other group, so that I could look at it later. > > Karmen > Re: Riding a Bike > To: Autism_in_Girls > <mailto:Autism_in_Girls%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:42 AM > > My Daughter had the exact same problem, We purchased a roller coaster > car from overstock.com for 39.00 just for fun, You power the car with > only your arms, it took my daughter a little bit to learn it, but once > she did the entire hand eye coordination thing just kind of linked > with her and she was riding her bike within days, we in no way > purchased this for that reason but instead were absolutely thrilled > none the less. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I have a 4 yr old Aspie and he has no interest in riding a bike.  We tried to get him one last year for his 3rd birthday and he could careless.  We tried again this year and same thing.  My husband really wants to teach him how to ride a bike, so he went ahead and bought one anyway.  When our son does get on a bike he has hard time peddling.  So, we're not sure what to do.  Should we try to teach him anyway?  Or do we wait until he seems more interested? Has anyone else had this experience? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Hi ,Our little girl took a long time learning how to pedal a big wheel. She did finally get it and she did seem to want to ride it so the difference may be in her wanting to ride. Don't give up on him yet but my thought is that he will have to be the one to finally show interest. I've never been successful trying to introduce something new to Hannah without her being interested in it. Also, she has to ease her way into new toys or experiences so that might be part of it too.Best,Becky S. in GeorgiaMom to Hannah 8yo Aspergers & Mood disorder NOS (probably bipolar)From: <tracyjohnson70@...> Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 7:47:28 PMSubject: ( ) Riding a bike I have a 4 yr old Aspie and he has no interest in riding a bike. We tried to get him one last year for his 3rd birthday and he could careless. We tried again this year and same thing. My husband really wants to teach him how to ride a bike, so he went ahead and bought one anyway. When our son does get on a bike he has hard time peddling. So, we're not sure what to do. Should we try to teach him anyway? Or do we wait until he seems more interested? Has anyone else had this experience? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Honestly, I wouldn't push it at four! Although what do I know. Isaac still doesn't know how, and that's fine. Right now he has casts on both legs to treat the toe walking (he was constantly tripping or stubbing his toes), and we'll probably give it a try after the casts come off, but it seems to me that with Aspies, there is so much stuff we HAVE to fight, that the less important stuff can just stay undone. Ok, I'm going out on a limb here, and could be TOTALLY wrong (it has happened a couple of times!) and certainly don't want to offend, but here goes. I'm almost wondering if your husband wants to teach your son to ride because that's something that HE can participate in. So often it's the moms who do the day-to-day teaching of those little life skills. It sounds to me like your husband WANTS to be involved, and maybe has fixated on teaching your son to ride as a " guy " thing that he can teach him (he hopes). Maybe hubby thinks of learning to ride a bike as a rite of passage or something? If his kid can ride a bike, will that " prove " he's normal? Eleanor, San , CA Aspie son Isaac, 10.5 years old On 03/01/2011 14:59 , wrote: > I have a 4 yr old Aspie and he has no interest in riding a bike. We > tried to get him one last year for his 3rd birthday and he could > careless. We tried again this year and same thing. My husband really > wants to teach him how to ride a bike, so he went ahead and bought one > anyway. When our son does get on a bike he has hard time peddling. So, > we're not sure what to do. Should we try to teach him anyway? Or do we > wait until he seems more interested? Has anyone else had this experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Not that I am trying to bring you bad news, but my son only learned how to bike last fall, when he was 14. He biked before on a small bike with training wheels, but never without. He was very weak, as many AS kids are and had zero interest in pushing himself. I love biking and my two other some love biking as well. They learned fast too. I was decided to teach how to bike, no matter what. I was upset that we could never go out, biking, the four of us, father and sons. So last August and September, every single day after work, I would come home and get him out on the bike. I ran behind him, up and down the street like a madman. My neighbors must have thought I went crazy. But I never gave up. Lots of positive reinforcement, high fives and words of praise. After a while he managed to control his balance and kept pedaling without falling. I was in cloud nine. All my effort and struggle did pay off. By October we were able to go, single file, me in front and my three boys following me for long rides, some up to ten miles. So do not get discourage. It may take a while, but there is hope. Biking is such an amazing kind of physical activity. Keep working at it and you will get your kids to learn. Good luck,EddieSent from my iPhoneOn 2011-03-01, at 9:30 PM, "bridget" <beanniferj@...> wrote: My 3 1/2 year old is the same way - he still scoots on his trike and has zero interest in using the pedals. We are nowhere near thinking about a bike. We have worked on pedaling some in OT, but he still finds it hard and mostly just pushes himself along. It was the same way when he turned 1 and got a ride on scooting toy, except back then he would not even scoot - he just ran behind it pushing. I don't have any answers, but just wanted to let you know that you are not alone! Bridget > > I have a 4 yr old Aspie and he has no interest in riding a bike. We tried > to get him one last year for his 3rd birthday and he could careless. We > tried again this year and same thing. My husband really wants to teach him > how to ride a bike, so he went ahead and bought one anyway. When our son > does get on a bike he has hard time peddling. So, we're not sure what to > do. Should we try to teach him anyway? Or do we wait until he seems more > interested? Has anyone else had this experience? > > Thanks, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 my son didnt learn untill he was about 6 or 7 and he just decided one day that he was going to ride it and that he did From: PattiAnnB <pabernius@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Riding a bike Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 2:38 AM Hi :I had to smile at your post because it brought back memories of my son when he was your son's age. We also got a bike at age 3 and he didn't have much interest in it. Got him a bigger one when he was 5, still no interest. Every once in awhile I could talk him into getting on it but he wasn't that keen on pedaling, etc. Then one day he was standing next to his bike and I said " it's getting late, time to go inside for dinner."Wouldn't you know it, the little stinker jumped on the bike and pedaled away from me as fast as he could. I was totally stunned! He pedaled down the sidewalk to the end of the block and stopped (no crossing the street). I went over to him and asked him why he'd never done that before and he said "I never had to get anywhere before."I've always held that experience in my heart as one of the best examples of Asperger's logic ever.So my advice to you would be not to push your little guy to ride his bike right now. He may have his own private reason for not wanting to, may not be physically ready for it yet, may have other interests more important to him right now. Who knows? Maybe he doesn't feel he needs to get anywhere!I'll bet at some point he will develop an interest. He might also enjoy scooters and skateboards before he's interested in bikes. And he is only 4 - still plenty of time to learn!Hope this helps!Patti From: <tracyjohnson70@...> Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 6:47:28 PMSubject: ( ) Riding a bike I have a 4 yr old Aspie and he has no interest in riding a bike. We tried to get him one last year for his 3rd birthday and he could careless. We tried again this year and same thing. My husband really wants to teach him how to ride a bike, so he went ahead and bought one anyway. When our son does get on a bike he has hard time peddling. So, we're not sure what to do. Should we try to teach him anyway? Or do we wait until he seems more interested? Has anyone else had this experience? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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