Job Corps graduate job update

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I am sorry your son didn't get the job! I know the extreme disappointment.

Actually, I think it is worse on me, because I see the big picture and he

doesn't! I see chronic unemployment, living in a cardboard box, losing his

teeth, homelessness etc, LOL!

DS did not get the dream job either at Retirement Center, but at least the guy

was gracious enough to call and leave him a message to that effect. He's been

told after some interviews that " another interview will be scheduled for him to

meet with someone else in organization. " And then a day later they are reposting

the job to the Help Wanted, and we have to conclude he didn't get it!

At least Job Corps will be able to call this chef where he didn't get job and

ask how he did on interview to get feedback and find out if was lack of

experience, or as someone on another list so eloquently put it " SNQR " which

stands for " something not quite right. "

He has applied for a similar position at County Nursing home, Community Kitchen,

a hospital--which they must have filled before ad even came out and when he

called about the position, she went on and on about how hard it was to find

someone who could pass the drug screen! He's heard that a lot! He could pass

easily. And he's tried all sizes and types of assisted living places. Most ask

for high school or equivalent, which he's got and at least six months

experience, which he also has.

I thought Job Corps, too, would have a pipeline of jobs to funnel them into.

Some of it is location, I suspect. If he were in Atlanta, they probably would,

but Gadsden, AL is such a small town, not many opportunities. Another mom in CA

with son in welding in JobCorps has apprentice type jobs that they graduate and

go into, in a partnership with school...that would be ideal.

I was very disappointed, too, in the Disability Navigator Coordinator that I

discovered. She did nothing. It was also suggested that I go to Voc Rehab, but

in our state, and my experience, they would place him somewhere wiping tables

and get to check him off as a " placement. " I know, I know, it's a job! But he

worked four grueling years in a warehouse at minimum wage at a place that hires

people with disabilities and doesn't pay much so they don't lose their SSI

(which he has never had and 99% most likely not eligible for).

Boy, have I gone on and on. I just needed to rant. Don't know what to do...we

are running out of facilities!

Thanks for asking, we are waiting to hear back on one in a large manufacturing

plant that offers breakfast and lunch. Only drawback is distance, twenty miles

away and have to start at 5 a.m.

Sue in TN

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working hard towards that end. But it just absolutely exhausts me! He has to

have help with every little thing, and not once, but every time. I am very proud

today though, he is actually cold-calling about a dozen places to see if they

are hiring. That is hard for even an outgoing person. 'Course, he may not

remember to get a name or a number, but at least he's doing something. He's had

three interviews so far last week. And one job offer that he accepted on the

spot! And then when we got home and discussed it, he ended up having to turn it

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executive functioning problems, poor people skills, weak problem solving, how

would he even know where to start?!? He wouldn't!? And could he manage the

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Oh, I hope something comes along soon for him!! I know how you feel. I used to say at the school meetings (as they told me everything was just fine, ha!) that my kid would be living in my basement forever if he did not get help for the skills he needs to live and work independently. They would all just stare blankly and a few would smile or laugh, as if I was joking. But I wasn't. You can just picture it so clearly the older they get, can't you.

Keep trying agencies anyway. I do know what you mean about how they place people into low menial type jobs. They do that here too. It is hard when you have someone who doesn't fit that profile and is capable of doing more...in fact, needs to do more! But still, they need support and help to get from here to there. I am so in this same boat with my 20 yo. When they wanted us to apply with rehab, I thought the same thing - a job sorting clothes at goodwill (THE place of choice in our area...) and my ds wouldn't do that. It's good to have jobs like that for people who need that, too. But there needs to be a second tier to this stuff. Anyway, the rehab people said that they would provide support for going to college and getting a job such as an IT type job that he wants. Of course, we have never heard back from them either. lol. I don't know if that's the kiss off or if I should bug them. And then I worry that they won't provide real help. Is it just a lot of talk and no action? I see a lot of that sometimes.

Rant away, that is what we are here to listen to! I sure can relate.

Roxanna

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

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Hi, My experience in the work force have shown me that several people with serious issues have managed to work and earn good money. Do not feel discouraged...My son has attention deficit disorder and he graduated from college. He still forgets things such as his wallets, his paycheck, etc..but he has being able to manage his job. I also know other people that have manage very well their disabilities and being able to find a decent job.Suggestion:I will suggest no to pressure him and give him all your support. It is very depressing to be without a job.Find the things he wants to do and find a way he can uses it in a job. If he likes computers he can make good money without going to college, just with a microsoft certification. Also he can find a career specialist that will match his skills, his personality and ambitions to a job. It might requires to go back to school but it is worthyDo not worry, they are still young and there is plenty of time....Your son is young and he has a long way to update his skills. ( ) Re: How do you discipline someone when they don't give a hoot?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This job processes came at a great time...DS, 25, is home from Job Corps on Summer break and is job hunting. And reading this made me realize that he IS working hard towards that end. But it just absolutely exhausts me! He has to have help with every little thing, and not once, but every time. I am very proud today though, he is actually cold-calling about a dozen places to see if they are hiring. That is hard for even an outgoing person. 'Course, he may not remember to get a name or a number, but at least he's doing something. He's had three interviews so far last week. And one job offer that he accepted on the spot! And then when we got home and discussed it, he ended up having to turn it down. Twenty five miles away, only part time, no cooking involved (he has trained for culinary) and no chance of ever cooking...so he's still looking. > > > > Any job suggestions, appreciated!> > Sue> > > > > As for getting a job, he may be 17 yo but it doesn't mean he is ready to get a job.? There is a process involved in getting a job as well.? You don't just walk out the door and get handed a job, unfortunately.? For someone with executive functioning problems, poor people skills, weak problem solving, how would he even know where to start?!? He wouldn't!? And could he manage the multiple tasks required for some jobs - like working in fast food or a job with a lot of problem solving involved??>

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Hi,To make you feel better..I am a bad speller and I have held a job for eight years in the computer field. (I do not need to spell neither to talk)I am a bad talker, I express myself better when I write. People tell me that I am hyper and I have HDHD. You son eventually will find a suitable job but he will need all you support..It is very hard, but he can do it.... ( ) Re: How do you discipline someone when they don't give a hoot? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This job processes came at a great time...DS, 25, is home from Job Corps on Summer break and is job hunting. And reading this made me realize that he IS working hard towards that end. But it just absolutely exhausts me! He has to have help with every little thing, and not once, but every time. I am very proud today though, he is actually cold-calling about a dozen places to see if they are hiring. That is hard for even an outgoing person. 'Course, he may not remember to get a name or a number, but at least he's doing something. He's had three interviews so far last week. And one job offer that he accepted on the spot! And then when we got home and discussed it, he ended up having to turn it down. Twenty five miles away, only part time, no cooking involved (he has trained for culinary) and no chance of ever cooking...so he's still looking. > > > > Any job suggestions, appreciated! > > Sue > > > > > As for getting a job, he may be 17 yo but it doesn't mean he is ready to get a job.? There is a process involved in getting a job as well.? You don't just walk out the door and get handed a job, unfortunately.? For someone with executive functioning problems, poor people skills, weak problem solving, how would he even know where to start?!? He wouldn't!? And could he manage the multiple tasks required for some jobs - like working in fast food or a job with a lot of problem solving involved?? >