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> I learned to drive at the age of seventeen.

>

> My first five vehicles were motorcycles, since then two seater

sports

> cars.

>

> I have been driving for over fifty years, and have a spotless

record.

>

> I live in the middle of a seven mile long, windy, one lane,

mountain

> road.

>

> My car has over a quarter of a million miles on it with absolutely

no

> engine repair work.

>

> My truck has a couple of hundred thousand miles on it, again with

no

> engine repair.

>

> I have driven well over a couple of thousand miles in the past

ten

> days, at an average speed of just over seventy miles an hour.

>

> Rainbow

>

Thanks for your reply.I'm tired just reading how many miles you've

traveled in the past 10 days.

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> tsbthatsme: "Thanks for your reply.I'm tired just reading how many miles you've traveled in the past 10 days."Me too!!!It was not a vacation. My ninety six year old mother was in deep financial trouble, driving uninsured and unregistered, deep in debt, with no money, no food.  Rainbow

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> tsbthatsme: "Thanks for your reply.I'm tired just reading how many miles you've traveled in the past 10 days."Me too!!!It was not a vacation. My ninety six year old mother was in deep financial trouble, driving uninsured and unregistered, deep in debt, with no money, no food.  Rainbow

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Missed this thread before...

I got mine when I was 23. Before that I was too afraid to even try. Took me

very long before they deemed me ready to do the test. Got it on my first

trial amazingly enough - mainly because the other two before me made such

blatant mistakes that I looked good in comparison, especially when I took

pains to not repeat theirs. I consider that more luck than skill.

But now that I've got it automated, it's like typing; something my body

knows how to do without my conscious participation. I think I'm a rather

good driver, unless I have someone talking while I drive, in which case I

may get a little distracted.

I like the freedom of driving and wish speed limits were more flexible. Leif

says I have an " offensive driving style. " :-)

Inger

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I guess I'll be chauffeuring them for awhile. We live in the country on

a lake. We are 13 miles between two towns.I guess it's a good thing I'm

a stay at home mom since it looks like my future is filled with many

more hours of chauffeuring. :( They do have their learners permit but it

expired last week.) We discussed this earlier in the week and one of the

boys said, I'll go get my drivers license, but, he has only driven about

2 hours total so I doubt he could pass the driving part of the test. the

written part I don't worry about. I get distracted when someone is

talking but especially when the boys play their loud German and Japanese

music. :)

Inger Lorelei wrote:

> Missed this thread before...

>

> I got mine when I was 23. Before that I was too afraid to even try.

> Took me

> very long before they deemed me ready to do the test. Got it on my first

> trial amazingly enough - mainly because the other two before me made such

> blatant mistakes that I looked good in comparison, especially when I took

> pains to not repeat theirs. I consider that more luck than skill.

>

> But now that I've got it automated, it's like typing; something my body

> knows how to do without my conscious participation. I think I'm a rather

> good driver, unless I have someone talking while I drive, in which case I

> may get a little distracted.

>

> I like the freedom of driving and wish speed limits were more

> flexible. Leif

> says I have an " offensive driving style. " :-)

>

> Inger

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> Inger:  "offensive driving style" LMAO!!!I believe that 'offensive' can mean two different things......Offensive as opposed to defensive, orOffensive as meaning it is disgusting, repulsive.  Rainbow

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Toni:

> I guess I'll be chauffeuring them for awhile.

LOL!!

> We live in the country on a lake.

On a lake?? :-o On an island or a house boat or what?

> We are 13 miles between two towns. I guess it's a good thing I'm

a stay at home mom since it looks like my future is filled with many

more hours of chauffeuring. :( They do have their learners permit but it

expired last week.)

Can't you get it renewed?

> We discussed this earlier in the week and one of the

boys said, I'll go get my drivers license, but, he has only driven about

2 hours total so I doubt he could pass the driving part of the test. the

written part I don't worry about.

Naturally they need to practice and learn how to drive first! And in the

process of practicing, it should become clear if their nervous systems will

be able to get the knack or if they'll be too much of a danger to drive at

all. Some never get the hang of it and do best staying away from the wheel.

But how about mopeds?

> I get distracted when someone is talking but especially when the boys play

> their loud German and Japanese music. :)

May i recommend either earplugs for you or headphones for them? And a nice

gag for any passenger you may have? ;-) (I wish I could cuff my passengers

too, since I get even more distracted when they get excited about something

and start waving their arms...)

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In Swedish, that same word only has the first meaning.

I think it was Leif's way of politely indicating he was terrified when I drove him and his family home at 130 kmph in the middle of the night, after they missed the last train.

Inger

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> Inger: "offensive driving style"

LMAO!!!

I believe that 'offensive' can mean two different things......

Offensive as opposed to defensive, or

Offensive as meaning it is disgusting, repulsive.

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On a lake?? :-o On an island or a house boat or what? I guess it does

sound like I live *on* a lake. Actually we live *in* a house on the

*shore* of a lake.Down here there are two fairly large lakes within 15

to 20 miles and we all just say I live on the lake (vs. living in town).

I wish I knew how ya'll snip and such. I know it is confusing reading my

replies this way. Some replies are below too.

Inger Lorelei wrote:

> Toni:

> > I guess I'll be chauffeuring them for awhile.

>

> LOL!!

>

> > We live in the country on a lake.

>

> On a lake?? :-o On an island or a house boat or what?

>

> > We are 13 miles between two towns. I guess it's a good thing I'm

> a stay at home mom since it looks like my future is filled with many

> more hours of chauffeuring. :( They do have their learners permit but it

> expired last week.)

>

> Can't you get it renewed? We are going next week...

>

> > We discussed this earlier in the week and one of the

> boys said, I'll go get my drivers license, but, he has only driven about

> 2 hours total so I doubt he could pass the driving part of the test. the

> written part I don't worry about.

>

> Naturally they need to practice and learn how to drive first! And in the

> process of practicing, it should become clear if their nervous systems

> will

> be able to get the knack or if they'll be too much of a danger to

> drive at

> all. Some never get the hang of it and do best staying away from the

> wheel.

> But how about mopeds?

>

> Ha ha, sorry picturing one of them on a mo-ped is so funny. Neither

> one of them had any interest in any form of bikes. We got them several

> trikes and bikes only to donate them.

>

> > I get distracted when someone is talking but especially when the

> boys play

> > their loud German and Japanese music. :)

>

> May i recommend either earplugs for you or headphones for them? And a

> nice

> gag for any passenger you may have? ;-) (I wish I could cuff my

> passengers

> too, since I get even more distracted when they get excited about

> something

> and start waving their

> arms...)

> I would like to get one of those gags for other times besides

> driving.:) ( like when we have a " debate " ) Two against one, guess who

> loses? They both use earphones but the music is so loud I can hear it

> anyway. They are going to be needing to take sign language lessons

> from you if they don't start turning it down.;)

>

> Inger

>

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Toni:

> I guess it does sound like I live *on* a lake. Actually we live *in* a

> house on the *shore* of a lake. Down here there are two fairly large lakes

> within 15 to 20 miles and we all just say I live on the lake (vs. living

> in town).

I guess this was an instance of this Aspie taking something a little too

literally. (It's like when Raven wrote that she had " alligators snapping at

her heels " and I asked if she lives in Florida, lol!)

> I wish I knew how ya'll snip and such.

You just left-click with your mouse to mark the section you wish to delete

or move, cut it out with your mouse and then repaste it where you want it.

> I know it is confusing reading my replies this way.

Yes, but we can usually figure it out.

> I would like to get one of those gags for other times besides

> driving.:) ( like when we have a " debate " ) Two against one, guess who

> loses?

LOL! My sympathies! Not only are they two against one, but two determined

*Aspies.* I'm sure you've seen here just how stubborn and tenatious we can

be about issues we feel strongly about? :-)

> They both use earphones but the music is so loud I can hear it

> anyway. They are going to be needing to take sign language lessons

> from you if they don't start turning it down.;)

:-D It's not a bad idea for you to have a small set of gestures, sort of

like a basketball referee has. Especially in the car when they need to know

that mommy means business!

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Only 130 kmph? You'd have to keep in the slow lanes on the highways

in Michigan to avoid being run over :P (that's a little over 80 mph

for those that don't feel like doing the conversions) I kid you not,

I've seen beat up old stationwagons in lower Michigan going that speed

in the slow lane.

>

> In Swedish, that same word only has the first meaning.

>

> I think it was Leif's way of politely indicating he was terrified

when I drove him and his family home at 130 kmph in the middle of the

night, after they missed the last train.

>

> Inger

>

>

> Re: Re: Drivers license

>

>

> > Inger: " offensive driving style "

>

>

> LMAO!!!

>

>

> I believe that 'offensive' can mean two different things......

>

>

> Offensive as opposed to defensive, or

>

>

> Offensive as meaning it is disgusting, repulsive.

>

>

> Rainbow

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

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LOL, well that's Sweden for you!

Big Brother has made it so safe for us that the maximum speed limit on

highways is 110 kmph. On smaller roads it can be 90, 70. 50 or 30. Veeerrrry

frustrating, especially at 30 when you're not sure if you should worry about

getting a speeding ticket or a parking ticket. :-)

Inger

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>

>

> > Inger: " offensive driving style "

>

>

> LMAO!!!

>

>

> I believe that 'offensive' can mean two different things......

>

>

> Offensive as opposed to defensive, or

>

>

> Offensive as meaning it is disgusting, repulsive.

>

>

> Rainbow

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

>

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There appears to be a lot of motorists with no road sense where I

live.

The street I live on is narrow with lots of parked cars on both

sides - no gardens - houses straight onto path (sidewalk), no parking

spots - no garages; and yet many cars come speeding down the road

with little thought or care. Motorists use the street I live on as a

short cut between two more major roads.

I have witnessed road rage - one time the school bus (little mini

bus) was dropping of my son and a motorist was getting irrate,

couldn't wait a moment or two, barged past the school bus and took

the wing mirror off a parked car. It was quite shocking to see and

hear and most of the children on the bus have sensory difficulties

and such as what they witnessed would have undoubtedly shook them up -

it shook me up.

I don't understand some motorists :-( It's almost as if some use

there cars as weapons. There does seem to be a lot of road rage about

in this country :-(

>

> LOL, well that's Sweden for you!

>

> Big Brother has made it so safe for us that the maximum speed limit

on

> highways is 110 kmph. On smaller roads it can be 90, 70. 50 or 30.

Veeerrrry

> frustrating, especially at 30 when you're not sure if you should

worry about

> getting a speeding ticket or a parking ticket. :-)

>

> Inger

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If such a thing as you mentioned had happened here, the driver would have

lost his license on the spot.

This is the reason for the annoying 30 kmph limit on roads, mainly around

schools and day care centers here in Sweden. And this limit is the most

costly to ignore. Other speed limits you can exceed by up to 30 kmph before

you lose your license, all you get is a fine (unless you're the king.) The

30 limit you only need to exceed by a few kmph to lose your license.

They've gotten stricter lately so I was lucky to get a way with only a 900

SEK fine when I just followed the traffic flow at 45 kmph, plus a 'dot' in

my driver's license (after 3 dots, you lose it). But after they caught and

fined all of us who were 'speeding' on that bridge, it did have the effect

of making me extremely careful to not exceed a 30 limit again, and this

vigilance has not diminished since 1993 when this happened. (I also have

super-check on where it's legal to park. I simply cannot afford to get a

ticket.)

Inger

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There appears to be a lot of motorists with no road sense where I

live.

The street I live on is narrow with lots of parked cars on both

sides - no gardens - houses straight onto path (sidewalk), no parking

spots - no garages; and yet many cars come speeding down the road

with little thought or care. Motorists use the street I live on as a

short cut between two more major roads.

I have witnessed road rage - one time the school bus (little mini

bus) was dropping of my son and a motorist was getting irrate,

couldn't wait a moment or two, barged past the school bus and took

the wing mirror off a parked car. It was quite shocking to see and

hear and most of the children on the bus have sensory difficulties

and such as what they witnessed would have undoubtedly shook them up -

it shook me up.

I don't understand some motorists :-( It's almost as if some use

there cars as weapons. There does seem to be a lot of road rage about

in this country :-(

>

> LOL, well that's Sweden for you!

>

> Big Brother has made it so safe for us that the maximum speed limit

on

> highways is 110 kmph. On smaller roads it can be 90, 70. 50 or 30.

Veeerrrry

> frustrating, especially at 30 when you're not sure if you should

worry about

> getting a speeding ticket or a parking ticket. :-)

>

> Inger

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> Inger I guess this was an instance of this Aspie taking something

a little too

literally. (It's like when Raven wrote that she had " alligators snapping at

her heels " and I asked if she lives in Florida, lol!)

That is hilarious!!!

Inger Lorelei wrote: LOL! My sympathies! Not only are they two against

one, but two determined

*Aspies.* I'm sure you've seen here just how stubborn and tenacious we can

be about issues we feel strongly about? :-) Toni: If you only knew.

Noah is like a pit bull. He is the champion! Tenacious doesn't begin to

describe him. ( need I go on?)..

> Toni:

> > I guess it does sound like I live *on* a lake. Actually we live *in* a

> > house on the *shore* of a lake. Down here there are two fairly large

> lakes

> > within 15 to 20 miles and we all just say I live on the lake (vs.

> living

> > in town).

>

> I guess this was an instance of this Aspie taking something a little too

> literally. (It's like when Raven wrote that she had " alligators

> snapping at

> her heels " and I asked if she lives in Florida, lol!)

>

> > I wish I knew how ya'll snip and such.

>

> You just left-click with your mouse to mark the section you wish to

> delete

> or move, cut it out with your mouse and then repaste it where you want it.

>

> > I know it is confusing reading my replies this way.

>

> Yes, but we can usually figure it out.

>

> > I would like to get one of those gags for other times besides

> > driving.:) ( like when we have a " debate " ) Two against one, guess who

> > loses?

>

> LOL! My sympathies! Not only are they two against one, but two determined

> *Aspies.* I'm sure you've seen here just how stubborn and tenatious we

> can

> be about issues we feel strongly about? :-)

>

> > They both use earphones but the music is so loud I can hear it

> > anyway. They are going to be needing to take sign language lessons

> > from you if they don't start turning it down.;)

>

> :-D It's not a bad idea for you to have a small set of gestures, sort of

> like a basketball referee has. Especially in the car when they need to

> know

> that mommy means business!

>

> Inger

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 3/10/2006 3:01:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

There appears to be a lot of motorists with no road sense where I live.

There are a lot of idiots on the road around here too. Its a wonder there aren't more wrecks than there are.

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I think if common sense was used, however it has been pointed out how

uncommon common sense is; but if a road is clear, not in a built up

area, safe etc then one can go a little faster. I think it all

depends on situations - it just seems way too many people are in a

rush and have no consideration for others.

If I were driving (which I don't) and felt I had to be somewhere and

was going to be late - I'd pull over and phone whoever it concerned

and tell them I may be a little late - I don't think personally it

would be worth risking my life or the lifes of others. It all depends

on the situation though - if it were a sort of emergency where I was

trying to get someone to hospital I might drive a little faster.

>

> If such a thing as you mentioned had happened here, the driver

would have

> lost his license on the spot.

>

> This is the reason for the annoying 30 kmph limit on roads, mainly

around

> schools and day care centers here in Sweden. And this limit is the

most

> costly to ignore. Other speed limits you can exceed by up to 30

kmph before

> you lose your license, all you get is a fine (unless you're the

king.) The

> 30 limit you only need to exceed by a few kmph to lose your license.

>

> They've gotten stricter lately so I was lucky to get a way with

only a 900

> SEK fine when I just followed the traffic flow at 45 kmph, plus

a 'dot' in

> my driver's license (after 3 dots, you lose it). But after they

caught and

> fined all of us who were 'speeding' on that bridge, it did have the

effect

> of making me extremely careful to not exceed a 30 limit again, and

this

> vigilance has not diminished since 1993 when this happened. (I also

have

> super-check on where it's legal to park. I simply cannot afford to

get a

> ticket.)

>

> Inger

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Or perhaps parts of electric motors spelled with a thick accident! :)

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> > : " Many commentators over the centuries have made this

same

> observation " .

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> Commentators = ordinary potatoes?

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  • 4 years later...

Here in NC, they start driver's ed in 9th grade, it's done through our school

system but not during regular classes (Saturdays, after school, before...). So

they took the bookwork and had to pass that. Then they took the actual driving

part. (I say " they " as I have twins, only one has AS). Then passed the

written test at the drivers license office to get their learner's permit.

My Aspie drove with me some with his permit. But then he lost interest. I'm

not sure why, he never said (and I asked). However, he also had some OCD

bothering him some those years, don't know if it was that perhaps.

Anyway, he was turning 20 when he got his license. He went to his first year of

college at our local community college and during that time he got interested in

driving again and wanting to get his license.

He can drive around our small town okay in areas he knows. I really do't know

if he could manage a larger city or interstate, we haven't tried. Considering

the problems he sometimes still has in town, I haven't pushed him to try either,

sigh! I can't imagine going 65+ and cars all around, exits to take or

merging....! But that is just MY son and his abilities. He's 22 now, away at

college but car is here at home!

Oh - when he took the driving part of driver's ed, the instructor was great! He

let him stay in that part longer to give him more practice. I told him about the

dx, but not until after a few sessions when I was anxious to know how things

were going. At that time he said son did well the first hour but then seemed

to get distracted, start making mistakes. And left turns were hard for him.

>

> If your child drives when did they start?

>

> Did you use a special program? & nbsp;Class? & nbsp;One on one?

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We haven't crossed that bridge yet, but my son is 12 and says he is NEVER going

to drive. We understand his hesitancy and will not force him to do so. We

will, however, teach him how to use the bus system. There are " transition "

programs, either through school or the community, that will teach them those

skills.

Driving is so different for those with Asperger's than it is for neurotypical

teens/adults. They like to be black and white and follow the rules exactly.

So, they may take the driver's ed class so literally, that it will be hard to

follow the grey, nebulous way that most drivers drive. For instance, at a 4 way

stop. Who ever know the rules, for one thing. There is always a driver who

shoots out into the intersection before he's supposed to. Then, there's the

lady doing her make up and you know she's not going to go, so you go. There's a

person gunning their engine on their huge pick up, and you KNOW he's going

first. People with Asperger's won't see all those " social, " and nonverbal cues

that we see.

Just food for thought.

~ Mommiest

>

> If your child drives when did they start?

>

> Did you use a special program? & nbsp;Class? & nbsp;One on one?

>

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GREAT POINT YOU JUST MADE !!!!

From: mommiestgirl02 <mommiestgirl02@...>Subject: ( ) Re: Drivers License Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 8:19 AM

We haven't crossed that bridge yet, but my son is 12 and says he is NEVER going to drive. We understand his hesitancy and will not force him to do so. We will, however, teach him how to use the bus system. There are "transition" programs, either through school or the community, that will teach them those skills.Driving is so different for those with Asperger's than it is for neurotypical teens/adults. They like to be black and white and follow the rules exactly. So, they may take the driver's ed class so literally, that it will be hard to follow the grey, nebulous way that most drivers drive. For instance, at a 4 way stop. Who ever know the rules, for one thing. There is always a driver who shoots out into the intersection before he's supposed to. Then, there's the lady doing her make up and you know she's not going to go, so you go. There's a person gunning their engine on their huge pick up, and you KNOW he's going first. People with

Asperger's won't see all those "social," and nonverbal cues that we see. Just food for thought.~ Mommiest>> If your child drives when did they start?> > Did you use a special program? & nbsp;Class? & nbsp;One on one?> > > Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint>

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