Re: Gifted kids? (Was Re: Emailing the teacher)

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Sorry, can't help more as we have a gifted program, my dd does

extremely well in that class despite her bad year in regular classes

so they wanted to take her out to give her more time in her regular

class and I put my foot down, why take what she's good at, right now I

think that is the only thing doing any good for her self esteem at

all.

I also wanted to point out that if there is any way to even get a

group of the advanced kids in the grade together that might be

helpful, gifted kids tend to be quirky anyway so I am thinking that is

why my dd does better b/c she fits better and the teacher is better at

it.

On 5/3/10, Cheryl <grvychic@...> wrote:

>>Are you in Canada? Is this across the country or is it specific from town

> toTown? Have you talked to the school board about this issue?

>

>

> I do live in Canada. Ontario, to be specific. I have no idea what union

> this is, so I don't know how far-reaching it is. There's no way on God's

> green earth I would bring this up with the school board, though. Our board

> has a long-standing feud with our town and our schools, teachers, and kids

> are suffering from it. Right now they are in the process of closing the

> elementary school and putting all grades, K-12, into a falling-apart high

> school with an inefficient renovation budget. It's a long, long story and I

> have no faith at all in them.

>

> That leads me to my question: Does anyone have experience in having an

> Apsie who's also identified as " gifted? " We thought dd was done with her

> psych/Ed evaluation and that we'd get the feedback/diagnosis this week;

> however, we got a call from the psychologist on the weekend saying she

> wanted to run one more test because our daughter was scoring very high in

> the gifted range except in one small area and she wanted to double-check

> things.

>

> Most people would be happy to have a gifted child, but as much I love our

> teachers, like I said, our board is another issue. The average number of

> gifted students is supposed to be 10%. Our board says there are only 10

> students total in the entire county, and it's a big county (our school alone

> has 300 students). Therefore, they offer no programs for giftedness and

> rely on IEPs. My concern is that I fear there's going to be difficulty in

> making the Asperger's and the giftedness work together. They seem to be at

> two opposite ends and I don't know what I should push for when I go to her

> IPRC at the end of the month. My dd is not the self-motivated kind of kid

> like I was, rather, she's the " do as little as possible " type of kid like my

> brother was. I fear if they expect her to self-motivate to " enrich " her

> curriculum, we'll be set up for colossal failure and frustration.

>

> Any suggestions or insights? I'm getting sick with worry over this and I'm

> usually not that kind of person.

>

>

> Cheryl S.

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Cheryl,

I have a ds who has HFA and is also gifted. It is really hard to

manage this! There are articles and books out there if you want to do

a search - look for " twice exceptional. " My ds is also one who would

do the least amount possible and is not seeking out any learning

experiences unless it appears to him on Runescape. lol. I e-school my

ds now at home because the school just would not accommodate his needs.

Well, eventually they would have but I did not feel like fighting the

system again. Since I e-school at home, I am able to move him through

things he already knows quickly and spend more time in area's that he

lags in. For example, he is taking his second year of high school math

(geometry) and he's an 8th grader this year. I think it only

challenged him half the time. But again, I was able to spend more time

in areas he found difficult and speed through the things he already

knew. I should really do this in more classes but it's hard work

sometimes and I am winging it here.

I don't know how it goes in Canada but here in Ohio, USA, the schools

are required to identify gifted students but not required to provide

any special education to them. Still, my particular school has a

fairly large gifted program set up already. Unfortunately, they do not

even consider disabled kids as being gifted. I found out my ds was

overlooked for many opportunities because he was autistic. I could

have really worked to change that but I just don't have the energy.

Instead, I decided to e-school my ds at home and spend my time figuring

out what he needs to learn. It's such a tough situation to be in with

a kid who is twice-exceptional. And my biggest complaint is that so

often people see the gift without appreciating the disability and then

expect my ds to do more than he can do. If he was still in the regular

local school, he would be in gifted classes with aide support. That

would have taken a good effort to get in place, but that is ideally

what he needed. He would also be getting sped help to learn

organizational skills and work on social issues. But during many

meetings, I got the impression that the director of sped and the

director of gifted had no clue what to do with my kid. They often

argued over who had to pay for what. lol. I once took in an article

written by my own state dept. of education on twice exceptional

learners and the directors both said, " Oh we have that. " Apparently,

not inspiring enough to actually implement the recommendations though.

Anyway, he was getting picked on in middle school as well and

threatened. So it just seemed like the right time to remove him since

they couldn't even do a passing job at educating him without a major

kick in the butt.

Roxanna

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

( ) Gifted kids? (Was Re: Emailing the teacher)

>Are you in Canada? Is this across the country or is it specific from

town toTown? Have you talked to the school board about this issue?

 

I do live in Canada.  Ontario, to be specific.  I have no idea what

union this is, so I don't know how far-reaching it is.  There's no way

on God's green earth I would bring this up with the school board,

though.  Our board has a long-standing feud with our town and our

schools, teachers, and kids are suffering from it.  Right now they are

in the process of closing the elementary school and putting all grades,

K-12, into a falling-apart high school with an inefficient renovation

budget.  It's a long, long story and I have no faith at all in them.

 

That leads me to my question:  Does anyone have experience in having an

Apsie who's also identified as " gifted? "   We thought dd was done with

her psych/Ed evaluation and that we'd get the feedback/diagnosis this

week; however, we got a call from the psychologist on the weekend

saying she wanted to run one more test because our daughter was

scoring very high in the gifted range except in one small area and she

wanted to double-check things.

 

Most people would be happy to have a gifted child, but as much I love

our teachers, like I said, our board is another issue.  The average

number of gifted students is supposed to be 10%.  Our board says there

are only 10 students total in the entire county, and it's a big county

(our school alone has 300 students).  Therefore, they offer no programs

for giftedness and rely on IEPs.  My concern is that I fear there's

going to be difficulty in making the Asperger's and the giftedness work

together.  They seem to be at two opposite ends and I don't know what I

should push for when I go to her IPRC at the end of the month.  My dd

is not the self-motivated kind of kid like I was, rather, she's the " do

as little as possible " type of kid like my brother was.  I fear if they

expect her to self-motivate to " enrich " her curriculum, we'll be set up

for colossal failure and frustration.

 

Any suggestions or insights?  I'm getting sick with worry over this and

I'm usually not that kind of person.

 

 

Cheryl S.