Fiber

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In a message dated 4/14/2006 8:32:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

beeisbuzzing2003@... writes:

==>If your bowels are not moving you are constipated? The files do

recommend vitamin C and magnesium for constipation. Psyllium is not

recommended - it not only damages the intestines but also causes

adverse reactions in most people. Fibre is a no-no - see the article

in the Candida Diet Folder.

But with the poor digestion, are the C vitamins even able to work. I had to

stop the magnesium citrate because of diarrhea, but now take magnesium

glycinate. I don't think that will help with constipation. I don't think I have

constipation. I have heard others on the group talk about just not having any

volume of waste coming down. That is what I am experiencing. I have taken

Psyllium in the past with no ill effects at all. Could I take it once in a

while?

Don't mean to be a pest. I'm just concerned.

Faith

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> Bee, Hubby and I spent hours reading about digestion. We are

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> information said I need Psyllium. I think I am going to have to add

> some into my diet. I hope this is ok.

==>If your bowels are not moving you are constipated? The files do

recommend vitamin C and magnesium for constipation. Psyllium is not

recommended - it not only damages the intestines but also causes

adverse reactions in most people. Fibre is a no-no - see the article

in the Candida Diet Folder.

==>If there isn't an article on psyllium in the files I will post one

this weekend. I recommend you puree all foods and ensure you are

consuming plenty of " good " fats, i.e. coconut oil (5 tbl.), butter,

etc. according to the ratios recommended in the Candid Diet folder.

Fats certainly will aid your digestion and will heal the intestines and

strengthen them. They even help with the movement of the bowels. They

are extremely important!

==>Also ensure you are taking enough digestive enzymes along with

sauerkraut with every meal, ocean sea salt, etc. to aid digestion. Are

you doing dry skin brushing 3 times a day?

Bee

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No, you don't need psyllium.

At one point I had horrible constipation. HORRIBLE. I wouldn't have a BM

for 4 days. I used large quantites of vitamin C and that took care of it.

There's a file about this. I'll have to look it up but it shouldn't be too

hard to find.

Zack

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006, Faith wrote:

> Bee, Hubby and I spent hours reading about digestion. We are concerned

> that nothing seems to be moving much in my intestines. Most of the

> information said I need Psyllium. I think I am going to have to add

> some into my diet. I hope this is ok.

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> Faith

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> beeisbuzzing2003@... writes:

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do recommend vitamin C and magnesium for constipation. Psyllium

is not recommended - it not only damages the intestines but also

causes adverse reactions in most people. Fibre is a no-no - see

the article in the Candida Diet Folder.

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I had to stop the magnesium citrate because of diarrhea, but now

take magnesium glycinate.

==>Yes, C vitamins will work. If you are horribly constipated then

take a little less magnesium so it doesn't cause severe diarrhea.

I don't think that will help with constipation. I don't think I have

constipation.

==>If you do not have constipation, but you say your bowels are not

moving, what do you mean?

> I have heard others on the group talk about just not having any

> volume of waste coming down. That is what I am experiencing. I

have taken Psyllium in the past with no ill effects at all. Could

I take it once in a while? Don't mean to be a pest. I'm just

concerned.

==>Volume of waste? That's ridiculous. They are probably eating

lots of fibre, veggies, etc., so then you would get a larger volume

of waste. Your body cannot break down fibres in any vegetables so

it would end up in the stool. My diet recommends low carbs (veggies)

so you wouldn't be looking for lots of waste.

Bee

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> Bee, Hubby and I spent hours reading about digestion. We are concerned

> that nothing seems to be moving much in my intestines. Most of the

> information said I need Psyllium. I think I am going to have to add

> some into my diet. I hope this is ok.

Remember that when you're eating a healthy, clean diet, your body is using

most everything you eat. You won't produce much waste because your body

is more efficiently dealing with the foods you eat.

Constipation is about the consistency of the stools and NOT the frequency.

If you're having infrequent, small stools but they're not hard, then don't

worry. It's when the stools get hard that you've got a problem.

in IN

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--- Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

> ==>Volume of waste? That's ridiculous. They are

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> it would end up in the stool. My diet recommends low

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> so you wouldn't be looking for lots of waste.

I just wanted to share that when I first started I was

eating a lot more protein and very few veggies. I've

been losing weight on this program (76 pounds as of

today) and my goal on this program is to lose weight,

get healthier and cure my candida.

I am planning, however, to eat this way for the rest

of my life, since I have strong addictions to carby

foods.

Anyway, at first my weight loss was OK, and then as I

started getting more on the program (I gradually

weaned off the foods) the weight loss started picking

up.

I was losing weight at a good pace and then I got some

advice to increase my veggie carbs (high fiber ones)

and decrease my protein. Since then my weight loss

each week has doubled (at the same calorie level), and

a nice side effect is that I'm more regular.

But it took a while for me to get regular, and I

almost felt blocked up sometimes.. for a long time I

felt this way. I had bouts of constipation

alternating with diarreah. I really believe this is

candida related.

However recently everything has been coming out nice

and smooth and also a lot better smelling. Not like

it smells good or anything, but the odor is much less

offensive. Sorry if this is Too Much Information.

I've been on the program 100% with no cheats for six

months, with 6 months previously on low carb weaning

onto anti-candida. Lately I'm feeling better and

better, and I think I'm finally getting healthier and

my candida is getting under control.

There were a lot of die-off symptoms I dealt with like

mood swings, headaches, depression, fatigue, extreme

thirst, acne and psoriasis flare ups, nausea, dizzy

spells etc.

Fortunately for me I took all the dietary and

supplement changes very gradually and slowly, so my

symptoms were never severe. I just wanted to share

that there is light at the end of the candida tunnel.

Also wanted to share that if you increase your high

fiber veggies it should help your constipation. I eat

sometimes 1000 grams of broccoli a day (2 and 1/4

pounds) along with several ounces of onions, 12 cloves

of garlic, etc.

I run my broccoli through my food processor's slicing

tool and then steam it really well first and mix it

with beef (and the beef drippings) and olive/coconut

oil, sea salt, fresh garlic, black pepper and mix it

as a stir fry. VERY nutritious and yummy.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

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Sue wrote:

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> Hi bee, Can you tell me why fiber is not recommended. My dr( who

is yeast knowledgeable) suggested to me that i increase my fiber to

help

> eliminate toxins from die off. He suggested a product called

> everybodys fiber which is comprised of herbs and not psylic husks

> (spelling), These herbs are easy on the digestive track and have

anti inflamatory qualities.

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> Just wondering what you know about this. You seem to have

knowledge

> that surpasses what we know.

==>In a nutshell, fibre is that part of a vegetable, seed, grain or

nut which passes undigested through the human gastrointestinal tract.

The major natural source of fibre is the cellulose that forms plant

cell walls but there are a number of other kinds of fibre. The ones

that scientists are interested in most are cellulose, hemicellulose,

lignin and pectin.

==>Biochemistry textbooks advise that fibre means an increased load

on our digestive system - we do not have enzymes required for

digestion of fiber, and that is why it bulks up the stools. However,

it also speeds up passage of nutrients through the digestive tract

which doesn't allow the proper absorption of nutrients.

==>It also requires the body to push volumes of undigested food

through the digestive tract, which irritates and damages the internal

walls of the intestines. It has been known for some time that fiber

really does not protect from the bowel cancer. In fact, fiber

consumed in larger quantities has proved to contribute to the

development of the bowel cancer.

==>The very easiest foods for the body to digest and absorb are

proteins and fats. In fact fats help pull nutrients out of foods,

and they strengthen and heal the walls of the intestines.

Please see our files for the A) Candida Diet Folder - which contains

two great articles about fibres.

Bee

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Thanks. The way you said it was very easy to understand and it clicked.

Sue

Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

Sue wrote:

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> Hi bee, Can you tell me why fiber is not recommended. My dr( who

is yeast knowledgeable) suggested to me that i increase my fiber to

help

> eliminate toxins from die off. He suggested a product called

> everybodys fiber which is comprised of herbs and not psylic husks

> (spelling), These herbs are easy on the digestive track and have

anti inflamatory qualities.

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> Just wondering what you know about this. You seem to have

knowledge

> that surpasses what we know.

==>In a nutshell, fibre is that part of a vegetable, seed, grain or

nut which passes undigested through the human gastrointestinal tract.

The major natural source of fibre is the cellulose that forms plant

cell walls but there are a number of other kinds of fibre. The ones

that scientists are interested in most are cellulose, hemicellulose,

lignin and pectin.

==>Biochemistry textbooks advise that fibre means an increased load

on our digestive system - we do not have enzymes required for

digestion of fiber, and that is why it bulks up the stools. However,

it also speeds up passage of nutrients through the digestive tract

which doesn't allow the proper absorption of nutrients.

==>It also requires the body to push volumes of undigested food

through the digestive tract, which irritates and damages the internal

walls of the intestines. It has been known for some time that fiber

really does not protect from the bowel cancer. In fact, fiber

consumed in larger quantities has proved to contribute to the

development of the bowel cancer.

==>The very easiest foods for the body to digest and absorb are

proteins and fats. In fact fats help pull nutrients out of foods,

and they strengthen and heal the walls of the intestines.

Please see our files for the A) Candida Diet Folder - which contains

two great articles about fibres.

Bee

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>Can you tell me why fiber is not recommended.

a couple more thoughts on fiber:

from what researchers have gathered, early primitive diets, ones that

are closest to what most of us would eat (unless we are eskimos maybe)

consisted primarily of leafy green plants, vegetables, fruits, animal

proteins with their organs and fats, and smaller amounts of nuts and

seeds.

now look at our modern diets, full of refined foods, processed foods,

white flour, white sugar, etc.

that's what makes us sick.

a diet like the one we promote here is rich in the good stuff and

chucks all the refined crap. we leave out the fruits, nuts and seeds

to speed healing of the digestive tract and elimination of the

candida. you'll get more than enough fiber fro mthe leafy greens and

vegetables you choose to include in your meals.

the longer you eat this way, the healthier your body becomes

naturally. it recognises these foods from millions of years of humans

eating this way!

modern processed sugars and flours have only been introduced in such

large amounts within the past couple of hundred years. chemicals,

artificial flavors, pesticides, hormones & anibiotics in meat - that's

only been around for about 50 years.

i trust nature. fiber supplements are another example of trying to

address a symptom without looking at the cause. if we eat a truly

healthy diet (not the food pyramid either, i mean a really good diet)

then there are no needs for fiber supplements.

stick with this diet and you will begin to return to a normal state of

health. your candida overgrowth will diminish, you will begin to feel

so much better. you will have no need for fiber supplements.

okay, i'm climbing down from the soap box now...

~ suz

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> It seems anytime I eat fiber even the homemade fermented saurkraut I

> get constipation. I also have to keep up the sodium asorbate and

> electrolyte drink. I have been doing this for months and am

wondering

> when will the constipation be down retracing?

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> Thanks

> Kara

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Are you eating plenty of fats and/or oils ? They really help.

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> Are you eating plenty of fats and/or oils ? They really help.

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Lots of fats and oils. So no problem there. I now think it may be

hormonal. I just got my period back (2 yrs without from pg and

nursing). But I'll have to wait and see.

Kara

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On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:57:25 -0400, deltabeats_71

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> Hi all,

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> Does anyone have a recommendation for fiber supplementation? My

> nutritionist has advised me to get something, preferably not grain

> based. I'm (continually) trying to incorporate Fiberrific into my anti

> candida diet but without too much success with inulin so far. He said

> possibly apple pectin but haven't eaten fruit for years and worried

> about negative effects from that too. Any ideas?

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Flax meal is predominantly fat and fiber.

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Thanks,

Lurie

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Inulin is the fiber most missing in the modern diet. It keeps one's probiotics

actively competing to help you get rid of bowel issues like dysbiosis and

candida. Lots of data here:

http://tinyurl.com/inulins

Duncan

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has advised me to get something, preferably not grain based. I'm (continually)

trying to incorporate Fiberrific into my anti candida diet but without too much

success with inulin so far. He said possibly apple pectin but haven't eaten

fruit for years and worried about negative effects from that too. Any ideas?

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Duncan, would it help me still, if I lowered my dose of inulin way down to

minimize bloating? In other words at perhpas 1/3 of the daily rec. amount would

the benefit of inulin be worth the trouble? Thanks Doug

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: fiber

candidiasis

Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 3:49 PM

 

Inulin is the fiber most missing in the modern diet. It keeps

one's probiotics actively competing to help you get rid of bowel issues like

dysbiosis and candida. Lots of data here:

http://tinyurl. com/inulins

Duncan

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has advised me to get something, preferably not grain based. I'm (continually)

trying to incorporate Fiberrific into my anti candida diet but without too much

success with inulin so far. He said possibly apple pectin but haven't eaten

fruit for years and worried about negative effects from that too. Any ideas?

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Also, would there be any way to taking it( for me fiberrifc) that might minimize

the bloating more? Thanks Doug

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: fiber

candidiasis

Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 3:49 PM

 

Inulin is the fiber most missing in the modern diet. It keeps

one's probiotics actively competing to help you get rid of bowel issues like

dysbiosis and candida. Lots of data here:

http://tinyurl. com/inulins

Duncan

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has advised me to get something, preferably not grain based. I'm (continually)

trying to incorporate Fiberrific into my anti candida diet but without too much

success with inulin so far. He said possibly apple pectin but haven't eaten

fruit for years and worried about negative effects from that too. Any ideas?

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> Thanks,

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Flax meal is not really the right kind of fat or fiber to be a good first choice

especially for someone on a bowel health group.

We're deficient in our dietary intake of inulin, but flax doesn't supply

inulin, and it's required for probiotic health.

We're deficient in DHA and EPA omega-3 fatty acids, and linolenic acid in flax

oil is only converted in tiny amounts to DHA and EPA, not enough if we're sick.

Further, the conversion is hampered by excess omega-6 oils in the diet.

Apple pectin is a good fiber but again, not a probiotic food.

Whatever you choose, you'll still need the right fats and fiber.

Duncan

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> Thanks,

> Lurie

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Doug I'd have to say yes a lower inulin dose would help, because we're

addressing a dietary deficiency. Bear in mind though that the research posited

15 grams daily, and 5 grams per dose results in something measurable. Also, the

main probiotic organism lactobacilli do produce gas, the bowel is a fermentation

vessel, and the probiotics produce several other beneficial substances, so

you'll want to use the inulin as best you can. Maybe ramping up will serve you

well

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Duncan, thanks. One thing I still do not understand. Is there a difference

between bloat and having gas?  What I mean is can you have bloating and no gas?

I do not have problems or much gas. I was hoping that if you had bloating that

there would be a way to de-bloat. What I mean is, is bloat gas or is it some

other phenomena. If bloat is simply accumulation of gas then it would seem you

seem a substance that would cause gas. I can tolerate being gassey, I cannot

tolerate being " blown  up " . Doug

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: fiber

candidiasis

Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 9:04 PM

 

Doug I'd have to say yes a lower inulin dose would help,

because we're addressing a dietary deficiency. Bear in mind though that the

research posited 15 grams daily, and 5 grams per dose results in something

measurable. Also, the main probiotic organism lactobacilli do produce gas, the

bowel is a fermentation vessel, and the probiotics produce several other

beneficial substances, so you'll want to use the inulin as best you can. Maybe

ramping up will serve you well

Duncan

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I think the bloating is gas, yes Doug. People have to expect gas from a

fermentable product; irritation also causes inflammation, which increases tissue

size a bit, but most of the bloat from inulin is gas.

Last year we had a bit 'o' fun with that, I wish you happy tootin' dude

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Duncan, you are only getting part of my point. I feel bloated but am not passing

gas. What can I do to pass the gas so it does not put alot of pressure on my

hernias where they sewed me up without mesh.? Thanks Doug

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: fiber

candidiasis

Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 10:08 PM

 

I think the bloating is gas, yes Doug. People have to expect

gas from a fermentable product; irritation also causes inflammation, which

increases tissue size a bit, but most of the bloat from inulin is gas.

Last year we had a bit 'o' fun with that, I wish you happy tootin' dude

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Sorry to hear about your hernias, Doug; still, the best way I know of to make

the bowels move reliably including gas, is exercise. How about " sit bouncing " on

a mini trampoline?

Duncan

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[Guest guest]

I understand well that inulin is ideal however when it is simply not tolerable

then is there a second best source of fiber, even it is non prebiotic? I have a

high threshold for discomfort but inulin, even in small doses, throws me well

over it. I continue to try to add it back into my program however, in the

meantime I'm looking for fiber from another source than inulin or apple pectin

(or flaxseed) if something is available?

Thanks,

> Inulin is the fiber most missing in the modern diet. It keeps one's probiotics

actively competing to help you get rid of bowel issues like dysbiosis and

candida. Lots of data here:

> http://tinyurl.com/inulins

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> Duncan

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> > Hi all,

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> > Does anyone have a recommendation for fiber supplementation? My nutritionist

has advised me to get something, preferably not grain based. I'm (continually)

trying to incorporate Fiberrific into my anti candida diet but without too much

success with inulin so far. He said possibly apple pectin but haven't eaten

fruit for years and worried about negative effects from that too. Any ideas?

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/3/2009 10:18:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

dglsrichey@... writes:

Duncan, you are only getting part of my point. I feel bloated but am not

passing gas. What can I do to pass the gas so it does not put alot of

pressure on my hernias where they sewed me up without mesh.? Thanks Doug

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One thing that really helped me was adding a small amount of

Virgin Coconut Oil to my diet. I tried using Inulin and all it did

was create bloating and tons of gas. The problem with gas never went

away using Inulin. I had to give up using it.

As soon as I started to add 2 teaspoons of Virgin Coconut Oil to

my diet daily I immediately started to feel better and the gas problem

subsided after about one week. That is the only thing I have tried

that seemed to normalize my gut. I read that Coconut oil does help kill

the bacteria that causes Candidiasis but encourages good bacteria.

Apparently not everyone is able to tolerate Inulin. The same might

be said for Virgin Coconut Oil but in my case it worked very well for me.

Todd R

[Guest guest]

When we're discussing a non-prebiotic fiber, I think psyllium has the edge. That

said, nearly all the fiber is digested by bacterial action, so you're feeding

SOMETHING in the gut, and if not a probiotic, then what, would be a sobering

question.

You need prebiotics too to balance the equation.

Duncan

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> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > Does anyone have a recommendation for fiber supplementation? My

nutritionist has advised me to get something, preferably not grain based. I'm

(continually) trying to incorporate Fiberrific into my anti candida diet but

without too much success with inulin so far. He said possibly apple pectin but

haven't eaten fruit for years and worried about negative effects from that too.

Any ideas?

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> > > Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

deltabeats_71 wrote:

> I understand well that inulin is ideal however when it is simply not tolerable

then is there a second best source of fiber, even it is non prebiotic?

Glucomannan maybe? That is what I am thinking of trying, as I cannot

tolerate inulin either. I get cramps and diarrhea as well as gas from it.

sol