Guest guest Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I have for years now tried many therapies part by part. No one therapy was a miracle therapy. Floortime and RDI (relationship development intervention) are the opposite of ABA. Where ABA is structure and rewards. Floortime and RDI is about spending time with your child engaging them around their interests. You are drawing them out into a more spontaneous play rather than something rehearsed such as ABA approach. I think it is a great strategy to learn about and use at least 30 minutes a day. Floortime has such good training programs. RDI is expensive and our consultant did not get the importance of our behavior plan to keeping life moving along. But day in and day out we rely on a structured day with tokens to keep the day moving along and not fixated on a special interest. I also work on the weekends on small outtings to broaden my daughters interests. And this over time has helped. But by and far for us the main issue is with the meltdowns and hitting (me) when something changes and with anxiety. It is a slow process of helping an AS child be aware of the many emotions they may experience and to help them tolerate some distress in change and develop some flexibility. The build of stress that is part of there day often explodes on my. Pam > > Is anyone doing floortime with their child? How much has it helped your child's development? > > Thanks for any feedback you can give. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Hi :We used floortime with our son , who was diagnosed with ASD when he was two. He did not speak at all and had lots of problems with communication, tantrums, etc. We found a speech pathologist who specializes in floortime and she was wonderful at teaching us how to use it for . He is five now and we feel that the floortime did wonders for helping us "bring him out into the world". That being said, we did NOT follow a rigid program of doing floortime for hours and hours and hours a day, like many of the programs recommend. We just did not have that kind of time. But once we got the hang of it, we could use floortime techniques pretty much anywhere. Based on our experience, my advice to you would be to give it a shot and see how it goes. PattiFrom: melody_autumn06 <melodyh2006@...> Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 1:13:43 AMSubject: ( ) Floortime? How much does it help your child? Is anyone doing floortime with their child? How much has it helped your child's development? Thanks for any feedback you can give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I second everything Pam said. We found Floortime to be great, especially for helping my husband understand how to "play" with our son in ways that helped draw him out and get him engaged. Now that is five, we use more ABA techniques. And Pam is absolutely right, there is no one miracle therapy and I'm a firm believer in the concept that you can employ techniques from more than one type of therapy. Pam, thanks for a great explanation!PattiFrom: Pamela <susanonderko@...> Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 9:49:08 AMSubject: ( ) Re: Floortime? How much does it help your child? I have for years now tried many therapies part by part. No one therapy was a miracle therapy. Floortime and RDI (relationship development intervention) are the opposite of ABA. Where ABA is structure and rewards. Floortime and RDI is about spending time with your child engaging them around their interests. You are drawing them out into a more spontaneous play rather than something rehearsed such as ABA approach. I think it is a great strategy to learn about and use at least 30 minutes a day. Floortime has such good training programs. RDI is expensive and our consultant did not get the importance of our behavior plan to keeping life moving along. But day in and day out we rely on a structured day with tokens to keep the day moving along and not fixated on a special interest. I also work on the weekends on small outtings to broaden my daughters interests. And this over time has helped. But by and far for us the main issue is with the meltdowns and hitting (me) when something changes and with anxiety. It is a slow process of helping an AS child be aware of the many emotions they may experience and to help them tolerate some distress in change and develop some flexibility. The build of stress that is part of there day often explodes on my. Pam > > Is anyone doing floortime with their child? How much has it helped your child's development? > > Thanks for any feedback you can give. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I just wanted to add that ABA can be as spontaneous as you want it to be. The only rehearsed part is taking data and having a goal. But I like/ed having a goal and a plan. We would then play games and read books and do things that any parent/child would be. The only difference was that I had a goal and would have to cue things as we went. But it's for kids who don't automatically get it. So that would make sense. Roxanna "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Jefferson ( ) Re: Floortime? How much does it help your child? I have for years now tried many therapies part by part. No one therapy was a miracle therapy. Floortime and RDI (relationship development intervention) are the opposite of ABA. Where ABA is structure and rewards. Floortime and RDI is about spending time with your child engaging them around their interests. You are drawing them out into a more spontaneous play rather than something rehearsed such as ABA approach. I think it is a great strategy to learn about and use at least 30 minutes a day. Floortime has such good training programs. RDI is expensive and our consultant did not get the importance of our behavior plan to keeping life moving along. But day in and day out we rely on a structured day with tokens to keep the day moving along and not fixated on a special interest. I also work on the weekends on small outtings to broaden my daughters interests. And this over time has helped. But by and far for us the main issue is with the meltdowns and hitting (me) when something changes and with anxiety. It is a slow process of helping an AS child be aware of the many emotions they may experience and to help them tolerate some distress in change and develop some flexibility. The build of stress that is part of there day often explodes on my. Pam > > Is anyone doing floortime with their child? How much has it helped your child's development? > > Thanks for any feedback you can give. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 What does ABA stand for? My 6yo dd aspie is a very visual learner. I've found that when we do role playing to teach her certain behaviors along with some explanation, she responds really well. I just have to keep reminding her every so often about what we learned and the proper way of dealing with things. The first was with touch, she always kept thinking that when someone pumped into her they were pushing her. After we did some role playing techniques she now doesn't have a meltdown. I'm now working on her voice control with the techniques from the Incredible 5 Point Scale. It's a slow process, but she is responding to it. I I explained to her what each number point meant, (ex. 1=no talking, 2= whisper, 3=talking, 4=yelling, 5=screaming), so when she's yelling or screaming, I just hold up my fingers (3), I don't say anything, unless I have to get her attention to look at me and she will adjust her volume. The book explains that you can use this with other issues, managing their anger, and describing their moods. The book also talks about using a color chart with the numbers on it that you could pull out and point to the number. Right now just by holding up my fingers it seems to work with her volume control. -. From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Re: Floortime? How much does it help your child? Date: Monday, November 22, 2010, 10:21 PM I just wanted to add that ABA can be as spontaneous as you want it to be. The only rehearsed part is taking data and having a goal. But I like/ed having a goal and a plan. We would then play games and read books and do things that any parent/child would be. The only difference was that I had a goal and would have to cue things as we went. But it's for kids who don't automatically get it. So that would make sense. Roxanna"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Jefferson ( ) Re: Floortime? How much does it help your child? I have for years now tried many therapies part by part. No one therapy was a miracle therapy. Floortime and RDI (relationship development intervention) are the opposite of ABA. Where ABA is structure and rewards. Floortime and RDI is about spending time with your child engaging them around their interests. You are drawing them out into a more spontaneous playrather than something rehearsed such as ABA approach.I think it is a great strategy to learn about and use at least30 minutes a day. Floortime has such good training programs.RDI is expensive and our consultant did not get the importance of our behavior plan to keeping life moving along. But day in and day out we rely on a structured day with tokens to keep the day moving along and not fixated on a special interest.I also work on the weekends on small outtings to broaden my daughters interests. And this over time has helped.But by and far for us the main issue is with the meltdowns and hitting (me) when something changes and with anxiety. It is a slow process of helping an AS child be aware of the manyemotions they may experience and to help them tolerate somedistress in change and develop some flexibility. The build ofstress that is part of there day often explodes on my.Pam >> Is anyone doing floortime with their child? How much has it helped your child's development? > > Thanks for any feedback you can give.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 ABA is Applied Behavior Analysis. ABA is based on behavior therapy. It means that you shape behaviors in a structured gradual way and provide some positive reinforcement. Floortime and RDI (relationship development intervention) are behavior therapy too. So what is the difference? The focus is on social interaction in Floortime and RDI. It is gradual too in that if the child is withdrawn you would not expect them to start interacting typically immediately. In Floortime and RDI the focus of the positive reinforcement is the social interaction itself not points or tokens. Pam - In , Ohmit <mohmit66@...> wrote: > > What does ABA stand for? My 6yo dd aspie is a very visual learner. I've found that when we do role playing to teach her certain behaviors along with some explanation, she responds really well. I just have to keep reminding her every so often about what we learned and the proper way of dealing with things. The first was with touch, she always kept thinking that when someone pumped into her they were pushing her. After we did some role playing techniques she now doesn't have a meltdown. I'm now working on her voice control with the techniques from the Incredible 5 Point Scale. It's a slow process, but she is responding to it. I I explained to her what each number point meant, (ex. 1=no talking, 2= whisper, 3=talking, 4=yelling, 5=screaming), so when she's yelling or screaming, I just hold up my fingers (3), I don't say anything, unless I have to get her attention to look at me and she will adjust her volume. The book explains that you can use this with > other issues, managing their anger, and describing their moods. The book also talks about using a color chart with the numbers on it that you could pull out and point to the number.  Right now just by holding up my fingers it seems to work with her volume control. > > - > > . > > > > > From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> > Subject: Re: ( ) Re: Floortime? How much does it help your child? > > Date: Monday, November 22, 2010, 10:21 PM > > >  > > > > I just wanted to add that ABA can be as spontaneous as you want it to be. The only rehearsed part is taking data and having a goal. But I like/ed having a goal and a plan. We would then play games and read books and do things that any parent/child would be. The only difference was that I had a goal and would have to cue things as we went. But it's for kids who don't automatically get it. So that would make sense.  > > > > > > Roxanna > " I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. " - Jefferson > > > > > ( ) Re: Floortime? How much does it help your child? > > >  > > > > I have for years now tried many therapies part by part. > No one therapy was a miracle therapy. > > Floortime and RDI (relationship development intervention) are the > opposite of ABA. Where ABA is structure and rewards. Floortime and > RDI is about spending time with your child engaging them around their interests. You are drawing them out into a more spontaneous play > rather than something rehearsed such as ABA approach. > > I think it is a great strategy to learn about and use at least > 30 minutes a day. Floortime has such good training programs. > RDI is expensive and our consultant did not get the importance > of our behavior plan to keeping life moving along. > > But day in and day out we rely on a structured day with tokens to keep the day moving along and not fixated on a special interest. > > I also work on the weekends on small outtings to broaden my daughters interests. And this over time has helped. > > But > by and far for us the main issue is with the meltdowns and > hitting (me) when something changes and with anxiety. It is a > slow process of helping an AS child be aware of the many > emotions they may experience and to help them tolerate some > distress in change and develop some flexibility. The build of > stress that is part of there day often explodes on my. > > Pam > > > > > > Is anyone doing floortime with their child? How much has it helped your child's development? > > > > Thanks for any feedback you can give. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Love the volume control idea. I'm going to give that a try with my 10 year old. He has a very loud natural voice, we're always asking him to be quieter. Having the numbers as a "visual" scale might help.> > > From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...>> Subject: Re: ( ) Re: Floortime? How much does it help your child?> > Date: Monday, November 22, 2010, 10:21 PM> > >  > > > > I just wanted to add that ABA can be as spontaneous as you want it to be. The only rehearsed part is taking data and having a goal. But I like/ed having a goal and a plan. We would then play games and read books and do things that any parent/child would be. The only difference was that I had a goal and would have to cue things as we went. But it's for kids who don't automatically get it. So that would make sense.  > > > > > > Roxanna> "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Jefferson> > > > > ( ) Re: Floortime? How much does it help your child?> > >  > > > > I have for years now tried many therapies part by part. > No one therapy was a miracle therapy. > > Floortime and RDI (relationship development intervention) are the > opposite of ABA. Where ABA is structure and rewards. Floortime and > RDI is about spending time with your child engaging them around their interests. You are drawing them out into a more spontaneous play> rather than something rehearsed such as ABA approach.> > I think it is a great strategy to learn about and use at least> 30 minutes a day. Floortime has such good training programs.> RDI is expensive and our consultant did not get the importance > of our behavior plan to keeping life moving along. > > But day in and day out we rely on a structured day with tokens to keep the day moving along and not fixated on a special interest.> > I also work on the weekends on small outtings to broaden my daughters interests. And this over time has helped.> > But> by and far for us the main issue is with the meltdowns and > hitting (me) when something changes and with anxiety. It is a > slow process of helping an AS child be aware of the many> emotions they may experience and to help them tolerate some> distress in change and develop some flexibility. The build of> stress that is part of there day often explodes on my.> > Pam > > > >> > Is anyone doing floortime with their child? How much has it helped your child's development? > > > > Thanks for any feedback you can give.> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 After reading the previous post we got The Incredible 5 Scale book to use with our 3 year old, and we love it! The volume control does really work - it's so simple, yet is effective. Thanks for the idea! Bridget > > > > > > Is anyone doing floortime with their child? How much has it helped your child's development? > > > > > > Thanks for any feedback you can give. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Has anyone done Floortime with your child? How much does it help with social engagement, relating, thinking skills, etc? Thanks for any feedback you can give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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