Toilet training

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>

> a while back, someone sent a good website about

> toileting and kids with autism. I don't think that I

> still have that website- but whoever sent it- it was a

> good one.

>

>

Do you think it were these sites? We've shared so much on this issue.

http://www.isn.net/~jypsy/toileting.htm or

http://www.bbbautism.com/

Hope your grandma is fine. Take care.

Irma,13,DS/ASD

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I don't recongize them, but they could be

--- mum592001 <ICANFIELD@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > a while back, someone sent a good website about

> > toileting and kids with autism. I don't think

> that I

> > still have that website- but whoever sent it- it

> was a

> > good one.

> >

> >

>

> Do you think it were these sites? We've shared so

> much on this issue.

> http://www.isn.net/~jypsy/toileting.htm or

> http://www.bbbautism.com/

> Hope your grandma is fine. Take care.

> Irma,13,DS/ASD

>

>

>

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In a message dated 7/26/2002 7:09:50 PM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

<<

I have a different problem although related. My son who is 12 now is urine

trained but will not have a bowel movement

in the toilet. He has had an accident about twice otherwise for his whole

life he has been doing it in his sleep

during the night. I asked him about it one day recently and he said he

doesn't want to do it. I can't force him.

That is one area where he is indeed in control. I don't know if the Dr.

needs to address the problem or what.

Becky R >>

Becky,

I would check with a dr. But, could you offer him a really great reward for

using the toilet for this? Maybe write him a little story about how people

use the toilet for having a b..m. Embarrassing for your other kids if you

have them but, could you make a fuss when someone else goes b.m. You can even

make it up. Give them great treats for it.

If you haven't already you can make him responsible for all clean up in the

a.m. and doing laundry.

Karyn

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Hi MM's mom,

Hang in there, remember with the ASD it seems to take longer in order

for our young men to comprehend the concept of feeling wet and the

consistency of the structured routine/habit training. had on-

going toilet-training since he was younger and I too was about to

just throw everything up in the air and shout! @ 13 y/o,

started last summer with just understanding of feeling wet and also

it was all cold turkey with no pull-ups and realize that he just

could not tell when his bladder was full. Ugh, and the clean-up to

add some spice on this challenge. As part of the spectrum kids/adults

do not have the ability to feel when their bladder is full. Sometimes

I wonder if I should use an alarm for to remind him to go to

the restroom. I say Montyman has come a long way with this. I would

just keep reminding him until it comes naturally to him, I also have

read for each new step of the routine it takes about 3 weeks for a

new habit to take hold. I know has not thoroughly graduated

with this issue but he has come a long way. Last week as

started school, I was expecting some problems with transportation as

a new bus driver was assigned. So I gave it a week and even warned

the driver that I would keep tabs of the time of him being dropped

off. He was being dropped off very late. Ok, so I did not get mad at

the driver as he was just doing his job, so I contacted the Special

Needs Transportation main office and had mentioned that I did not

want my son NO longer than 45 minutes as he was on a toilet-training

schedule and also that I did not want him too tired from the bus run.

This was a lot of work having to where he is at now for the

best. The excuse was because they had to add new students. Well, of

course I told them I understood and they better start accomodating

the other students with another bus. Day 2, the second week and

is arriving early, YES! Keep in mind that our kids can get

confused when new expectations are placed upon them.

Hugs,

Irma,14,DS/ASD

> is there anyone on this list who has a child/adult ds-asd who IS

completely

> toilet trained?

> also, after 5 years, i am being charged for a stroller that

medicaid

> never paid for and the company is comming back on me for it. if

they would

> have let me know the first year that it wasnt paid for, i wouldnt

be this

> upset about this....but i am sick of hearing all that 'these

children' are

> entitled to, that the money's is already there for this and that,

and then I

> never see it! the last time a worker came here i asked her how

much to they

> pay her to come bull**** me.....cause I do not expect anyone to pay

for

> anything, we have taken care of our son, but since he has qualified

for

> medicaid i have all these ppl telling me what all he is entitled

to. am i

> not holding my mouth right? im sick of all the promises, then when

i think

> they HAVE done something to help, i get a bill anyway, after the

use of the

> stroller is over and all. what else to i have to look forward to

with this?

> jeese!

> sorry, i just needed to vent. i quess i have some things

to let go

> of. one day i will share with you all what the medical issues

are.....

> donna

> montymans mom........

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Are our kids ever completely toilet trained? is

11 and does great even on his own most of the time but

does still occasionally wet the bed. and with

constipation problems he still has bm smearing of and

on, but goes the most of it in the toilet. we are

still working on bum hygeine, and the other day he

wet his pants at school????? still havent figured that

one out, other than he wasnt taken at routine time. We

had hm scheduled trained for years and then finally

around 9-10 years of age he started actually taking

himself. It was after we got the constipation under

control that we noticed the biggest gain. shawna.

--- dtycer@... wrote:

> is there anyone on this list who has a child/adult

> ds-asd who IS completely

> toilet trained?

> also, after 5 years, i am being charged for a

> stroller that medicaid

> never paid for and the company is comming back on me

> for it. if they would

> have let me know the first year that it wasnt paid

> for, i wouldnt be this

> upset about this....but i am sick of hearing all

> that 'these children' are

> entitled to, that the money's is already there for

> this and that, and then I

> never see it! the last time a worker came here i

> asked her how much to they

> pay her to come bull**** me.....cause I do not

> expect anyone to pay for

> anything, we have taken care of our son, but since

> he has qualified for

> medicaid i have all these ppl telling me what all he

> is entitled to. am i

> not holding my mouth right? im sick of all the

> promises, then when i think

> they HAVE done something to help, i get a bill

> anyway, after the use of the

> stroller is over and all. what else to i have to

> look forward to with this?

> jeese!

> sorry, i just needed to vent. i quess i

> have some things to let go

> of. one day i will share with you all what the

> medical issues are.....

> donna

> montymans mom........

>

>

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At one point when Elie was 11 or 12 we had 4 pages of IEP dealing only with

FECES!!!!!! Elie was trained for voiding at age 6. For bowel it took

until 14 for reliability and 15 for occasional accidents. Now at 17, we

have not seen an accident for 6 months.

It takes time, but eventually there will be success.

Sara - out of the feces business at last - no mention in this year's IEP.

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oh, Sara, Please share!

Matt just turned 12. He is very reliable voiding. (Except at night). But

we are trying and trying for bowel movements in the toilet.

He is in control of his bowels-control is not the problem. Placement is.

He REFUSES to go on the toilet. This has been for a number of years now.

He tells me he needs a pull up, gets one, will " go " then I change him. We

have tried not giving the pull up, but after a week, I can't take it any

more. He simply does not go! I do not want to get into a situation where

he is so impacted that they have to hospitalize him-figuring that if THAT

happens, the issues we are dealing with now will seem so small!

Right now, when he has to go, the rule is that he must start in the

toilet-which he can do. I have tried positive reinforcement-which we

always do. I have tried not letting him up from the toilet until he

evacuates. This takes 2-3 HOURS, of him screaming and trying to seriously

hurt whoever is in there with him.

I figure if you have 4 pages of IEP dealing only with FECES!!!!!! , you

may have some suggestions! Of course, he does not have accidents at

school, so they are not concerned with it. BUt really, this is THE

biggest issue with us right now. (I'm sure you understand)

>

> On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 21:59:44 -0400 " sara cohen "

<pastmidvale@...> writes:

> -

>

> At one point when Elie was 11 or 12 we had Elie was trained for voiding

at age 6. For bowel it

> took

> until 14 for reliability and 15 for occasional accidents. Now at

> 17, we

> have not seen an accident for 6 months.

>

> It takes time, but eventually there will be success.

>

> Sara - out of the feces business at last - no mention in this year's

> IEP.

>

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In a message dated 9/1/2002 6:02:13 AM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

<<

For many years we've put Fabio on the toilet on a regular basis. At school

and at home he was without pull-ups. He got the pull-ups just for

transportation to and from school, at night and when we went out during the

weekend. He held back and did his business as soon as he got a pull-up. We

were advised to take those pull-ups away completely and to put him on the

toilet every hour for ten minutes (at home and at school). I bought a

plastified cover for the mattress and a plastified cover for the car seat and

we started the 'programme'. The second day Fabio started to make his

'business' in the toilet and has done so for the past two month. He is not

able to say that he needs to go to the toilet. It's us and the teachers and

therapists at school who take him every one-two hours and sit him on the

toilet.

I thinks that taking away those pull-ups brought the success. I think it's

important when you decide to do it, make it for a limited time, like you try

to go without pull-ups for 4 weeks and see what happens - if without success,

you stop and try later on. I wish you luck and patience !

Kind regards from Switzerland

with Tanja 13, Fabio 11 ds/asd and Elena 8

>>

We also found that taking away the pullups during the day was key.

fought hard to get them back but we stuck to our guns. It was lots of laundry

but resolved in a few months.

I also developed a reward system that helped out. I took those plastic easter

eggs and put a variety of treats in them. Some had a slip of paper for a

reward that wouldn't fit. Every fifteen minutes that he was dry he got an

egg. We quickly moved up the amount of time. We never waited until he was

100% at any time period.

We also made sure that he changed himself when he wet-as much as possible. I

also put longer T-shirts on him so if he had a small accident his classmates

wouldn't notice.

Karyn

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In a message dated 9/1/2002 8:10:23 PM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

<< Karyn....Gareth is the same way about holding

his urine...always has been. We got to the point that we tell him to go

before each meal. " G. we're going to eat. You have to go to the bathroom

first. " At school, I told them he has to use the bathroom before lunch.

Fortunately, he likes to eat....so the bathroom isn't an issue. BUT...if I

don't tell him to go, he can hold it forever before running in there like a

maniac!!! I always worry about bladder infections.....something he had at

a

younger age. Take care, Everyone.

Margaret >>

Margaret,

This boy is so stubborn that he will give up a trip to Dairy Queen over

bathroom issues. He will go in and use the toilet but then get upset when he

has to pull his pants back up and dissolve into a mess. I guess I should say

it is dressing issues rather than toileting issues. We tried SI and we

couldn't find anyone skilled enough to deal with his behaviors.

He will get dressed nicely at 5 am and then we go and fall asleep together in

the big chair until everyone else gets up. He also goes fine in public

restrooms, at school (mostly), after school and at night when it is time for

p.j.s, or to go swimming.

For about one month (when was five months old) was in a routine of

dressing himself, getting his own socks and shoes on, and getting out the

door to school on his own. Then that abruptly changed and I haven't seen that

level of cooperation again. Sigh...Oh well, I'm way off topic now.

Karyn

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i agree on the cleaning up self too we did this with

nathan through the years of potty training, and it did

hlep even nowadays when he has the occasional accident

he will go remove his soiled clothing and wash off and

put on clean ones. We always figured if nathan

learned all the WORK involved when we soil ourselves

compared to how easy things are if you just use the

toilet, plus the happy singing and dancing also

involved after using the toilet, heheh, he would

rather use the toilet then have to clean himslef up,

which even took showers for the bm's uuug. Im not sure

if that is what h e thinks but at least he does try to

be clean hygeine wise, and is proud of it too, any

time he needs to clean himself up with clean clothes

he always comes out and says " see " showing us how big

he is, ofcaurse we always give great praise for

being so responsible. shawna

--- KVanRyzin@... wrote:

> In a message dated 9/1/2002 6:02:13 AM Central

> Daylight Time,

> writes:

>

> <<

> For many years we've put Fabio on the toilet on a

> regular basis. At school

> and at home he was without pull-ups. He got the

> pull-ups just for

> transportation to and from school, at night and when

> we went out during the

> weekend. He held back and did his business as soon

> as he got a pull-up. We

> were advised to take those pull-ups away completely

> and to put him on the

> toilet every hour for ten minutes (at home and at

> school). I bought a

> plastified cover for the mattress and a plastified

> cover for the car seat and

> we started the 'programme'. The second day Fabio

> started to make his

> 'business' in the toilet and has done so for the

> past two month. He is not

> able to say that he needs to go to the toilet. It's

> us and the teachers and

> therapists at school who take him every one-two

> hours and sit him on the

> toilet.

>

> I thinks that taking away those pull-ups brought

> the success. I think it's

> important when you decide to do it, make it for a

> limited time, like you try

> to go without pull-ups for 4 weeks and see what

> happens - if without success,

> you stop and try later on. I wish you luck and

> patience !

>

> Kind regards from Switzerland

> with Tanja 13, Fabio 11 ds/asd and Elena 8

> >>

> We also found that taking away the pullups during

> the day was key.

> fought hard to get them back but we stuck to our

> guns. It was lots of laundry

> but resolved in a few months.

> I also developed a reward system that helped out. I

> took those plastic easter

> eggs and put a variety of treats in them. Some had a

> slip of paper for a

> reward that wouldn't fit. Every fifteen minutes that

> he was dry he got an

> egg. We quickly moved up the amount of time. We

> never waited until he was

> 100% at any time period.

> We also made sure that he changed himself when he

> wet-as much as possible. I

> also put longer T-shirts on him so if he had a small

> accident his classmates

> wouldn't notice.

>

> Karyn

>

>

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We successfully used the " Nite Train'r " from Leaps N Bounds. It is a night

time potty training sensor that goes into the child's underpants.

Good Luck

Vicki

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Totally agree, individuals must wear clothing that allows them to

feel wetness. With it took about 2 weeks for him to

understand the concept of feeling wet. I started with the basic

procedures involved in toilet training with developmental

disabilities. Once the missing piece was discovered, it made a world

of difference for him. Just to know I almost gave up due to not

understanding the sensory issues, plus lots of laundry and

shampooing the carpet which was draining me. He is not 100% trained

but he is out of wearing pull-ups and still on a schedule with

visual pics, no cleaning blue stuff inside the toilet, no flushing

of the toilet before he urinates, only after his routine, no toliet

seat changes, must be the same one, and he must have only his white

boxer briefs. Oh, and at home all his toys of the week and video of

the day have to tag along. Does great urinated and pooping in the

toilet, no mess as he is Mr. Neat. Urinating accidents occur when we

do not remind him of his schedule. Consistency is a big plus. I read

& heard Temple Grandin's articles which inspired me to continue

other trials which you'll find on:

http://www.bbbautism.com/toilet.htm

http://www.bbbautism.com/pdf_files.htm#toilet_pdf

http://www.autism.org/contents.html#temple

http://www.autism.org/temple/faq.html

To all who have heard or seen Temple Grandin, you are certainly

right, she is one fantastic person to listen and admire. I got her

to autograph my book Thinking In Pictures. Thanks for always sharing

info, so when we have the opportunity, its not a waste of time. Ok,

back to the toilet-training, make going into the restroom a positive

experience.

Irma,14,DS/ASD

P.S. Sara, you are one amazing person, to be there for others,

besides your own. So proud of Elie's stories, especially

the " Grease " scoop.: )

Good luck with the little 5 y/o. I know this child will succeed with

you behind with the toilet-training skills.

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At 05:20 PM 2/2/2003 -0800, you wrote:

>He is

>starting to be verbal, and he can say " bathroom " . In

>fact, we put the PEC of the bathroom in a couple of

>places in the house, and before we bring him to the

>bathroom, we go to the PEC and make him say

> " bathroom " . But for some reason he has never initiated

>it.

Marina:

We started by bringing it to Andy and he would come with us usually. We

still need to do that sometimes. But...he is beginnign to tell us in his

very subtle ways. He'll stand outside the bathroom (mind you, he does

almost all of it himself--not pulling up yet or wiping #2--but he seems to

think we must BE there.). There are a couple of other things he'll do to

get our attention--go upstairs (he used to go up there and make a big poopy

mess, so we run up after him). And sometimes we still ask and he will tell

us " Yah " (our only " word. " ).

It takes time. If' you've got people whoa re really doing PECS right, it

may come faster. But let's face it--it's nto too exciting to talk about teh

bathroom.

Hang in there. Sounds like you're doing great.

j

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Hi Marina,

Welcome!! Seems to me your doing a wonderful job with Luca at his

age. Gee! This a different arena with the communication on getting

my son to tell me when he has to go. I'm just happy with him out of

his pull-ups and doing great with the routine, of course with us

guiding him. I do know he understands when we (school & I )

say " toilet " or " restroom " with the pec pics, & sign language. This

word was easier for him to repeat back and he can sign toilet with

his tiny fingers. That is great news with Luca starting to become

verbal. What if you start slowly with an alarm watch? My opinion at

this time, its going to take a little bit longer as he has just

started this structure routine. Don't set him free, yet. That day

will arrive, hang in there. Just continue doing what you're doing.

High fives to you!!!

This is something I'll be trying with my son down the road with the

alarm watch if allowed. He is not ready for it, yet. It needs to

become part of a routine for him and then figure out how to phase

out slowly. Along with a visual schedule.

Something I like to share because we should never underestimate our

kiddos. Well, in 's case I must add is, that yesterday it was

another brag time from his teacher. She just loves him. :)Anyways, I

had sent one of his favorite flavor bottle water and during his

school schedule he had gotten thirsty so he got up and when to his

cubby to get his drink. So he returned to his desk and opened it up

and then poured it into a cup, well, this drink was warm. He likes

it cold. His teacher was just observing his every move and was

wondering if he had realized that he had other bottle water in the

fridge. He had gotten up with his yucky drink and poured it into the

sink. His next move was that he had noticed a pic with ice cube and

pointed to it or should I say tapping because this is his latest

tapping everywhere. What does this mean? Our kids are listening and

watching. Speak about eating my words when I tell others that I did

not think the pecs were useful to him. I thought it was just a

memory thing.

Something else has started to do is not step on cracks or

lines. Gee whiz! Another habit occuring and what should I do? I was

able to snap him out of it by redirecting into something else. I

wonder if someone told him that old saying " Don't step on the crack

or you'll break your mother's back " . Well, something like that.

Hmm, I wonder?

Irma,14,DS/ASD

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--- Irma, don't you just love it when you see our kids do

those " normal " kid things like not stepping on cracks? Good for him!

> Something else has started to do is not step on cracks or

> lines. Gee whiz! Another habit occuring and what should I do? I was

> able to snap him out of it by redirecting into something else. I

> wonder if someone told him that old saying " Don't step on the crack

> or you'll break your mother's back " . Well, something like that.

> Hmm, I wonder?

> Irma,14,DS/ASD

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In a message dated 2/4/03 9:51:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,

ICANFIELD@... writes:

> Don't step on the crack

> or you'll break your mother's back " . Well, something like that.

> Hmm, I wonder?

>

Well, we don't want to break his mothers back. lololo I think you did

the right thing by redirecting him. How does usually communicate? Does

he initiate? These are the things we need to concentrate on for Rochelle.

Some kids point. Not Rochelle. Just wondering.

Sounds like a good brag to me about him getting his own drink. You are very

lucky that the teacher likes him so much. smile.

Diane

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> Don't step on the crack

> or you'll break your mother's back " . Well, something like that.

> Hmm, I wonder?

>

I use and still say that line. . and I teach children that line also. .

rebecca

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In a message dated 2/4/2003 7:18:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dben937342@... writes:

> How does usually communicate? Does

> he initiate? These are the things we need to concentrate on for Rochelle.

> Some kids point. Not Rochelle. Just wondering.

Diane,

I know this question is directed to Irma, but I thought I'd respond.

Maddie doesn't point at home, but I saw her do it at circle time, with some

assistance (they hold her arm out towards the item and she points). I was

floored when I watched it. They got her to do it using ABA/DTT methods.

She is starting to initiate at home much better than before. For instance,

she'll grab her communication board and throw it at our feet....or go to the

drawer, pull out the cookies, take our hand and put them in it......if she

wants to go outside, she'll take us by the hand and put our hand on the

doorknob. So we're making progress.

Donna

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In a message dated 2/5/03 10:19:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, Duffey48@...

writes:

> For instance,

> she'll grab her communication board and throw it at our feet....or go to

> the

> drawer, pull out the cookies, take our hand and put them in it......if she

> wants to go outside, she'll take us by the hand and put our hand on the

> doorknob. So we're making progress.

>

I'd say that is communication!!! lololo

Rochelle will go sit at table to eat and wait or go to closet (videos in

there) and try to open the door. I started to lock the door and she now will

go to the kitchen get the video picture and give to me. The funny thing is

that she will only give it to me. Her dad might be right there but she'll

walk right by him. So it is a start.

She recently gave me a juice picture when she wanted a drink. I would have

had no idea.

I just wish I knew when she was in pain. She can't tell me. I can see that

she is not feeling good sometimes but I don't know how much pain she is in.

Just came back from doctor yesterday. She had green yuckies coming out her

nose and the doctor said 10 days of drainage before antibotics. If she is up

one more night you can bet I will be back at the doctors. Sorry to rant. I

just hate when my kids are sick. I'd switch doctors but we are in the

military now. I think she has a sinus infection.

Oh, and the toilet training is much better. Rochelle doesn't pinch or try to

bite us when she doesn't want to go anymore. She is much more compliant. She

actually will go almost everytime if she has to go. But she still has

accidents if we forget to bring her. The worst thing is when she goes poop in

the tub. She does it all the time. It is disgusting. I don't know if I should

discipline her for it or what. We always put her on toilet before bathtime. I

give her very short baths if she hasn't gone recently.

Diane

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The worst thing is when she goes poop in

> the tub. She does it all the time. It is disgusting. I don't know

if I should

> discipline her for it or what. We always put her on toilet before

bathtime. I

> give her very short baths if she hasn't gone recently.

> Diane

>

> Hi Diane. did this for years!!!! I hated to leave her

alone in the bath tub, but she played so well in there......Anyway, I

would always tell her " icky, icky " as I got her out, cleaned out the

tub and then washed her again. Then one day she was in the tub and I

came around the corner and smelled it. When I got into the bathroom

was getting the poop out of the tub by herself and putting it

on the bathroom floor. When I yelled, " , what are you doing? "

She pointed to it and said " icky " . She hasn't pooped in the tub for

over a year!

>

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In a message dated 2/6/03 1:16:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kristen3kids@... writes:

> When I got into the bathroom

> was getting the poop out of the tub by herself and putting it

> on the bathroom floor. When I yelled, " , what are you doing? "

> She pointed to it and said " icky " . She hasn't pooped in the tub for

> over a year!

>

>

Thanks for the chuckle. I guess she finally got it. Ahhhhhh. I think I will

start calling it icky, icky too!!

Diane

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In a message dated 2/5/2003 9:16:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dben937342@... writes:

> I just wish I knew when she was in pain. She can't tell me. I can see that

> she is not feeling good sometimes but I don't know how much pain she is in.

>

> Just came back from doctor yesterday. She had green yuckies coming out her

> nose and the doctor said 10 days of drainage before antibotics. If she is

> up

> one more night you can bet I will be back at the doctors. Sorry to rant. I

> just hate when my kids are sick. I'd switch doctors but we are in the

> military now. I think she has a sinus infection.

>

Oh Diane, I SO know!!!!! I HATE it when any of my kids are sick, but it

especially pains me when it's Maddie because of her inability to tell me.

How is Rochelle today?

Donna

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In a message dated 2/1/03 9:22:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,

pastmidvale@... writes:

<< But I am getting to revisit this issue. We just received an almost 5 yo

child who is apraxic of speech and possible Pdd(although I do not believe

that) who is also not yet toilet trained. We are using pullups for one week

to see if we can get a sense of timing. But starting next week, we go to

plain underwear and an hourly schedule for starters.

Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons.

>>

How is this going Sara?

Gail :-)

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In a message dated 2/2/03 8:21:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

marinaviola@... writes:

<< Hello,

my mane is Marina and I live in Brooklyn, NY. I'm new

to the list, and it's been great! I have a son, Luca,

who has Mosaic Down Syndrome, and Autism. He just

turned 6. >>

Welcome Marina and Luca. We are not at the toilet training stage yet so no

help from me, but I'll read and learn along with you. :-)

Gail :-)

Gail-Mom to Seth 7 ds/asd/pica, jo 10 the gymnast, 12 the

pianist, 25 beautiful but a pain, Jen 27 the wallet breaker, Grandma to

Errick 6 ALL boy and wife to , my hero.

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Becca, it has been so long since I toilet trained my children, but yes, I do

believe I used this method with my guy . Is it the method where you put

them on the potty every 15 minutes or something? Refresh my memory. was

trained by the time he was 3 and a half (during the day) and by age 5, through

the night. I only used pullups over night....never when I was potty training

any of my children.

Jackie, Mom to 15ds, 12, and Bradley 9