Toilet training

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Carl Knaack wrote:

>Has anyone used the method of toilet training in the book " Toilet Trained in

>Less than a Day "

>

I bought the book last year, read it, thought that because she was good

at the " process " or toileting, and I would try the way I did the

others. My " tried and true " method did not work for (I have

tried twice, and given up, probably too soon), and I am thinking about

trying the .... Less than a day " method. Please let me know how it

works for you guys! 's problem (or rather my problem) is that

she doesn't care if she is dripping wet or poopy..... she can have

whatever dripping down her leg and will continue with whatever she's

doing. She is very competent at the toileting procedure, and will go

independently (which is very occasionally, when she feels like it), and

always on " social " potty visits with her sisters (like at a restraunt,

Costco, or whatever public bathroom we are visiting :-) She is also

starting to tell me " My tummy hurts " , which I know know is often a sign

she needs to poop. Unfortunately, she only tells me that ~20% or the

time (if that much). I really need to work on this before next fall,

since I think kindergarten would be better for her if she wasn't in pullups!

, mom to (7), (5 DS), and (3)

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In a message dated 4/2/03 4:00:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

> I just wondered if anyone had tried this and what luck they had if any?

> If you have tried it any advice?

I modified this method and used it with my firstborn NDA child as a trial

run. I staid with the modified version for Sheila (my secondborn and child

with DS). It worked so well on both the girls that my thirdborn got the same

toilet awareness program. I really didn't care if any of my kids were trained

in a day, but I figured it had some real awareness possibilities. Since the

whole idea of " training " (what are they pet monkeys?) was somewhat repellent

to me, I figured if I could make them more aware of their body needs and

functions, and my expectations we would all be happier. We would do the salty

snacks, lots of drinks, underpants and potty chair in the kitchen (flooring

that was easily cleaned up) throughout several days. # 1 and 3 had it within

a couple of days. It was a little more complicated for Sheila, but that was

because she was non-verbal, not walking and 6 months younger then the other

two girls when she started showing a desire to get out of diapers. (this was

the one time when her sensory issues really worked to an advantage--I used

cloth diapers and she hated being wet! lol)

nancy

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Dear ,

I remember having a hell of a time when my son was younger not so much with

peeing ( though we did have a few problems) but I remember that teaching

him to have a bm in the toilet took a lot of work. And I think my extreme

anxiety about the situation did not help at all. I don't know if you

have given this a try but for the heck of it I typed in toilet training on

google and they have some good links and personal stories. One is

http://www.isn.net/~jypsy/toileting.htm They have a lot of interesting

articles and suggestions of what to try. I wish I had found this when my

son was younger. What may work for one child may not necessarily work for

another with autism. This link gives you the TEACCH approach to toilet

training. http://www.teacch.com/toilet.htm Good luck and try to relax if

you can. (hard I know having been through this myself) Teaching kids with

autism how to use the toilet can be difficult.

Sandy

mom to Grady,

sixteen and taller than me!

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In a message dated 6/24/03 4:36:55 AM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

> Does anyone else have the experience where your child won't use the potty

> unless you make them? My 13 year old almost refuses to go. His bladder

> must be the size of a basketball. When you make him go, he argues, I can't

> do that. No, I don't have to... then he pees about 3 gallons. He pees

> probably 3 times a day, once in the am, when you make him, once before bed,

> when you make him and once when he goes poop!

>

is 14 and he goes to the bathroom when he gets to school in the a.m.,

once in the afternoon, and when he gets ready for bed. I quit fighting about it

when he quit having accidents. We make it part of the routine and then he

just does it without arguing.

Karyn

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Yes. That's it. is that way as well. It's part of his routine.

(though I have to make him go before he goes into teh pool - he has peed in

the pool, and on the cement around the pool). But, it seems like but for

the routine, he wouldn't go at all.

Re: toilet training

In a message dated 6/24/03 4:36:55 AM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

> Does anyone else have the experience where your child won't use the potty

> unless you make them? My 13 year old almost refuses to go. His bladder

> must be the size of a basketball. When you make him go, he argues, I

can't

> do that. No, I don't have to... then he pees about 3 gallons. He pees

> probably 3 times a day, once in the am, when you make him, once before

bed,

> when you make him and once when he goes poop!

>

is 14 and he goes to the bathroom when he gets to school in the a.m.,

once in the afternoon, and when he gets ready for bed. I quit fighting about

it

when he quit having accidents. We make it part of the routine and then he

just does it without arguing.

Karyn

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In a message dated 6/25/03 4:53:00 AM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

> I have worried because of the concentration of his urine. Plus, being on

> meds, it can't be good for him. But having that much control made

> night-time toilet training a non issue. We just kept track of the number

> of dry " Good nights " (overnight pull-ups) that he had over the course of a

> month. When we realized he was dry maybe 8 days out of nine, we ditched

> the pullups. It only took a couple of months before we got to zero

> accidents, and most of those were dribbles in the morning as he jumped up

> and ran to the bathroom. He was night-time dry probably around age 11.

>

> More later, all. Six weeks of day camp starts next week! yaaaaay!

>

> Beth Mum to Pete, age 12 +++++

Oh you are so lucky. 's iron bladder takes the night off. He soaks

himself at night and that is even with limited liquids after 5 p.m. and the

medication DDAVP.

Karyn

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In a message dated 6/24/2003 12:42:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

melville@... writes:

> Does anyone else have the experience where your child won't use the potty

> >unless you make them?

Ariel has to be told to use the toilet in the morning before school. If i

left it up to her she doesnt go until around lunch time. She was 4 when she was

potty trained and once she got that control....O' Ye of the iron bladder.(Im

jealous myself) She only goes 2 or 3 times a day unless i urge her to go

more.

Mom to Ariel " the camel " and the twins

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In a message dated 7/7/03 5:56:33 AM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

> Any potty training vets out there who have other thoughts please

> share them. I have heard of the weekend crash courses and some that

> have rewards and others that say that's a no-no. Duncan is pretty

> good about going to the potty - I do get at times the fuss/collapse

> in a half-folded pile....look up while sucking his tongue pitiful

> look...then tries charm...when that doesn't work he eventually sighs

> and cooperates.

>

> Thanks and one last thing - who/is anyone going to the August

> convention in Philly?!?

> Ann

> Duncan age 7 DS/PDD

Ann,

I firmly believe in doing whatever is necessary for the child to be

successful. With we knew that he knew to eliminate on the toilet. Had been

doing

it for years but also had wet pull-ups. So we got rid of the pull-ups one day

and went with reg. undies. Oh, he wasn't happy.

I used lots of reinforcers for using the toilet and for staying dry. I worked

hard to keep it interesting and keep the motivation going. We went through

LOTS of clothes but within two or three months we were there. Even now four

years later he asks for a candy sometimes when he uses appropriate behaviors in

the bathroom-what the heck, I'll give him a candy for it.

Karyn

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Karyn -

How old was when you went to the regular undies? I can relate

to the " Oh, he wasn't happy. " !! And how I wish candy could work for

us. Maybe chips....

Thanks,

Ann

> Ann,

> I firmly believe in doing whatever is necessary for the child to be

> successful. With we knew that he knew to eliminate on the

toilet. Had been doing

> it for years but also had wet pull-ups. So we got rid of the pull-

ups one day

> and went with reg. undies. Oh, he wasn't happy.

> I used lots of reinforcers for using the toilet and for staying

dry. I worked

> hard to keep it interesting and keep the motivation going. We went

through

> LOTS of clothes but within two or three months we were there. Even

now four

> years later he asks for a candy sometimes when he uses appropriate

behaviors in

> the bathroom-what the heck, I'll give him a candy for it.

>

> Karyn

>

>

>

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In a message dated 7/8/03 5:59:46 AM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

> Karyn -

> How old was when you went to the regular undies? I can relate

> to the " Oh, he wasn't happy. " !! And how I wish candy could work for

> us. Maybe chips....

> Thanks,

> Ann

Ann,

is adopted. He came to us at 8 years old not toilet trained. He had

heart surgery within two months of moving in. So he was almost 10 when we hit

toilet training head on. He also had lots of issues with diarrhea so it took a

while to get that under control.

One thing that I learned early with was to make the reinforcers fun. I

put tiny treats in those plastic easter eggs. When he was dry for a period of

time he got to pick one. Some of them had toys (toys that were too big got a

note in egg). We started with 10 minutes and worked up from there.

Karyn

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Hi Ann,

Hey, I would be interested in that IEP potty information - or could we

abbreviate that by calling it an " IEPP " ? : )

I don't feel like Hannah's school did much last year in this department

except take her to the potty when she was already wet last year.

Thanks,

a

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Karyn,

First of all? Bless you and I wish I could hug you for making

part of your family. I hope that doesn't sound gushy, but adopting

an eight year old with special needs and pending heart surgery has

you way up on the list of the best in any book.

Duncan had open heart at 4 months and we were so fortunate to have a

full repair and smooth sailing.

I think in terms of the potty - we've had a good introductory of

what " potty " means and it's time to bite the bullet and move to the

next level.

The egg with a treat inside is a good idea!

Thanks -

Ann

PS: For those of you in the potty mind-set who are interested out

here?

I have a fabulous, way sharp mom who has become a dear friend who son

has a metabolic disorder that is rare and causes significant sensory

integration problems. Training has been a real challenge because

she's convinced Cam has trouble feeling the ability to release/relax

his bladder to urinate and also bowel movements. Feeling " wet " is

something also that is of uncertainty. Kim is so intuitive and has

been able to write a great training strategy in her son's IEP that

has been really helpful. She said the docs look at her likes she's

nuts in regard to " sensory " related issues being a key to the

training. I'm getting her to send me the IEP section on potty

training. Cam now stays dry for LONG periods and her description

reminded me of recent posts about various kids who must be taken to

potty they hold it so long...

When I get this I'll share it for anyone interested...

> In a message dated 7/8/03 5:59:46 AM Central Daylight Time,

> writes:

>

>

> > Karyn -

> > How old was when you went to the regular undies? I can

relate

> > to the " Oh, he wasn't happy. " !! And how I wish candy could work

for

> > us. Maybe chips....

> > Thanks,

> > Ann

> Ann,

> is adopted. He came to us at 8 years old not toilet trained.

He had

> heart surgery within two months of moving in. So he was almost 10

when we hit

> toilet training head on. He also had lots of issues with diarrhea

so it took a

> while to get that under control.

> One thing that I learned early with was to make the

reinforcers fun. I

> put tiny treats in those plastic easter eggs. When he was dry for a

period of

> time he got to pick one. Some of them had toys (toys that were too

big got a

> note in egg). We started with 10 minutes and worked up from there.

>

> Karyn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Those of you interested in toilet training right now, we do have some pdf

articles in the files section of the web site:

/files/Toilet%20Training/

At 11:08 PM 7/8/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi Ann,

> Hey, I would be interested in that IEP potty information - or could we

>abbreviate that by calling it an " IEPP " ? : )

> I don't feel like Hannah's school did much last year in this department

>except take her to the potty when she was already wet last year.

> Thanks,

> a

>

>

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" Steps to Independence " - the book - has beautifully broken down tables and

lists to help establish a baseline and then create a time based toileting

program which one can eventually wean from. We used it verbatim in Elie's

toileting days. We used to call them feces conferences - aahh now but a

distant memory! :`~))

Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons.

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From: Joan Medlen <joan@...>

Reply-

Subject: Re: Re: toilet training

Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:33:09 -0700

Those of you interested in toilet training right now, we do have some pdf

articles in the files section of the web site:

/files/Toilet%20Training/

At 11:08 PM 7/8/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi Ann,

> Hey, I would be interested in that IEP potty information - or could we

>abbreviate that by calling it an " IEPP " ? : )

> I don't feel like Hannah's school did much last year in this

department

>except take her to the potty when she was already wet last year.

> Thanks,

> a

>

>

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Hi Ann,

I, too, would be interested in the potty training IEP stuff that you

have. I have had a hard time incorporating this into my IEP's and I don't

think that Tim really " feels " when he is wet either.

Thanks

At 11:08 PM 7/8/03 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi Ann,

> Hey, I would be interested in that IEP potty information - or could we

>abbreviate that by calling it an " IEPP " ? : )

> I don't feel like Hannah's school did much last year in this department

>except take her to the potty when she was already wet last year.

> Thanks,

> a

>

>

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>>> And how I wish candy could work for us. Maybe chips....

> Thanks,

> Ann

Hi Ann,

What works for my son are his favorite Disney video, stimming item,

action figure toy, etc. of the day. He can not have it until he does

his restroom routine. When he gets up first thing in the morning,

straight to the restroom. He needs to be reminded all the time.

When he wants his video or stimming item, I just tell him " restroom

then video or any favorite item " . This works for my son. Sometimes

we let him carry it inside the restroom and place it on the counter

for some comfort so that he knows its an immediate reinforcer once

he follows the routine and is done with his business. Its slowly

phasing off leaving his items behind in his bedroom or TV room and

he is still doing great with this.

Candy, cookies, did not work for him. Sometimes his favorite ice

cream with choc. syrup worked. Throughout the day, same thing. He

hated when I would stop his video just to go to the restroom. I

hated being mean but it worked when we working in the beginning of

the schedule training. He would get very upset and then realize

after the restroom steps it was back to watching his video. In the

beginning never really understood the feelness of being wet,

until we went cold turkey and it took two weeks for him to

understand. So sensory issues are still some areas we have learn

that bothers him but he still does great and at least I'm aware of

what triggers his behavior when he gets in one of those stubborn

moods.

I can't have blue cleansing stuff in the toilet.

My son was about 13 1/2 y/o when he finally was out of the pull-ups.

Whew! Cold turkey is the key with lots of cleaning, laundry,

consistency & praising with visual cues support posted, also just

the toilet sign language.

I was not aware of the sensory issues.

Something to try out is getting a wash cloth when he is schedule

trained and with assistance. As he is sitting on the toilet get 2

washcloths one wet and the other dry and hand over hand with his

tiny hand touch " wet, dry " , nothing else verbally.

Its just so that he starts to understand what wet means. Even if you

think its not working, give it some time because our kids are smart

in many ways and they can learn all with time & routine.

I also had used those bed mats that are used in the hospital so that

he would understand where his sitting areas were at and with time he

did understand and had his royal sitting areas.

You've mentioned that he is using the toilet I say this is a great

start. It takes longer for some of our kids to understand the

concept of the routine. Something else when you're in the restroom

with him and you have to go let him watch you or whoever is helping

out sit and of course once you're up, tell him " your turn " of course

this is done at home. A good visual model. Looking forward on

hearing about he IEP information, thanks.

Irma,14,DS/ASD

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In a message dated 8/4/03 7:43:28 AM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

> Karyn,

> This is exactly what I think is happening with Gavin.....I didn't

> communicate it that well though by saying he's afraid of the potty! We play

> a game and

> Buzz Lightyear and all his dolls go to the potty and then it's Gavin's turn.

>

> He has NO problem sitting on the little potty with his clothing on. BUT when

>

> you pull his pants down........well, then it starts. When we go to sit him

> on

> the potty, he does everything in his power to avoid having his bare bum

> touch

> the seat. He acts the same way he used to act when we offered him a

> " foreign "

> food or when we brought out the play dough. He has a lot of sensory issues

> and

> these things brought out the worst meltdowns. The look of fear in his eyes

> tells me its not a behavior issue, but perhaps a sensory issue. What was

> helpful

> to you in getting to tolerate just sitting on the toilet?

> Traci and Gavin, age 4

>

>

>

Traci,

I don't think that 's big issue was the toilet itself rather the pulling

up and down of the clothing and letting go of the pull-ups to use reg.

undies.

There is also a huge control component with . He doesn't do well with

directives so until he was able to know when he needed to go and follow through

on it we had many battles.

One thought, dresses and undresses in the bathroom. Maybe this would

allow your fellow more " naked " time around the toilet. Clean your toilet good

and then let him hold onto the lid if he needs to steady himself when dressing.

Nonchalantly move him toward sitting on the toilet to dress or undress and

then the focus isn't on sitting on the toilet and using it. Then you can move

more toward going potty while he just happens to be sitting on the toilet

getting

his pants on.

Can you tell that has taught me to be sneaky.

Karyn

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You need to separate out the issues.

It is not uncommon for our kids to be slower in some areas than others.

My daughter was probably into second grade before accidents mostly went

away with a need to keep spare clothes at school after that for very

infrequent events when she was just too focused on other things to get

the signal. At one point I suggested to my wife that we needed to by

stock in the Pampers brand because we might be their biggest customer

for life. However it all turned out well with lots of patience on our

part. We never put pressure on this issue because all the older

children we knew were toilet trained, even some who were much more

profoundly handicapped.

On the other hand, there are any number of ways in which our kids try to

express their independence (in either appropriate or inappropriate

ways). If you had down syndrome, you would see the people around you as

very, very controlling. They would look like they weren't paying

attention to what you wanted, but rather to having you do what they

want. This can show up in behaviors where you simply have no control

such as simply shutting down when you ask for something to be done

quickly of perhaps toilet control " accidents " as a rebellion or at least

expression of control. Sure it is inappropriate, but it shows who is

really in charge.

Taking the rebellion on up front can work, but it can also break down

the spirit of independence, something we worked very hard to preserve in

Jan. She is in an art class with two friends who also are her age and

have ds. They had a show last week for the parents, counselors,

teacher, and artists. It was fascinating to see the three young women

in action as they introduced parents and interacted. All three are

wonderful people, but the most outgoing and confident of them is Jan.

The teacher said that Jan brings music to the class (her music) and they

listen to it during class. That hardly surprises me.

Rick .. dad to 35 year old Jan

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Madeline turned 12 last month and only became 100% night potty trained about four months ago. We tried the night alarm that attaches to her underwear with NO help. She'd just take it off. I wish there was something I could tell you that could make it stop, but it was a wait and see thing for us. We also took her to the doc and he said everything was fine. A friend of mine who has an aspie son also had issues with night toilet training and I gave her the night alarm. She said it didn't work and just had to wait it out also.

Mom to my 4 girls

Madeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza

"You are the TRIP I did not take

You are the PEARLS I cannot buy

You are the blue Italian LAKE

YOU are my piece of foreign SKY"

---Anne ----

( ) Toilet Training

Hi,

Help! my 6yo daughter has Aspies and I'm having a heck of a time getting her 100% potty trained. She still has to wear pull-ups at night and a panty liner during the day. She will go from wetting herself several times during the day for a week or two to not needing any liner in her underwear at all for a week or two. All most of the time she just needs a panty liner. We have to remind her and tell her to go to the bathroom most of the time. Her pediatrician checked her over and found nothing wrong.

Is anyone else having the same or dealt with the same problem. If so does anyone have any suggestions.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

, YOu are not alone. My friends 7 year old boy is bed wetting every night. He used to be potty traind but somehow reversed itself. She also took him to the ped. nothing wrong. He also wears a diaper (but doesn't fit in it) during the day.

What part of he PT are you having trouble with? Does she know when she has to go? Will she enter the bathroom herself but just stand there? (that's what my 5 year old did). In other words which part of the process breaks down?

My smart 5 year old is only just potty trained. Family kept hounding us, like it was our fault. She was deathly afraid of falling in. So I got the smallest training top I could find. She still to this day can't "go" unless someone is there to watch out for her.

Cathleen

From: <mohmit66@...> Sent: Sat, November 6, 2010 12:33:15 AMSubject: ( ) Toilet Training

Hi, Help! my 6yo daughter has Aspies and I'm having a heck of a time getting her 100% potty trained. She still has to wear pull-ups at night and a panty liner during the day. She will go from wetting herself several times during the day for a week or two to not needing any liner in her underwear at all for a week or two. All most of the time she just needs a panty liner. We have to remind her and tell her to go to the bathroom most of the time. Her pediatrician checked her over and found nothing wrong.Is anyone else having the same or dealt with the same problem. If so does anyone have any suggestions.Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Cathleen,

It seems that she's not recognizing the sensation of when she has to go. She's

not afraid of going, the toilet or of the bathroom itself. Also if she's

engrossed in an activity she will not notice, stop playing or whatever and go to

the br. She will most of the time wet herself alittle bit before she notices,

however its enough to make her wet which is why we've been using a panty liner.

During school and whenever they have bathroom breaks they will make her go

whether she has to or not. I also do this at home if she hasn't gone in a while.

Yeah she is also to big for diaper's, I've been using the larger size pull-ups

that are for older kids night-wetting. Also J's psychiatrist put her on DDVAP

(generic name is Desmopressin Acetate) and this has helped greatly with night

time wetting, but not during the day.

I live in Pennsylvania and I just found out yesterday that I can have her

pull-ups and panty liners paid for through her medical assistance insurance.

YEAH! Also for those families who live in Pennsylvania, if you haven't done so

already, you can apply for medical assistance through the " Loophole Program " .

It's not based on your income at all, it's based on the child's disability. Ever

since my kids have been on it I haven't had to pay a penny and everything is

covered. I'm just finally catching up on past medical bills.

>

> , YOu are not alone. My friends 7 year old boy is bed wetting every

> night. He used to be potty traind but somehow reversed itself. She also took

him

> to the ped. nothing wrong. He also wears a diaper (but doesn't fit in it)

during

> the day.

>

>

> What part of he PT are you having trouble with? Does she know when she has to

> go? Will she enter the bathroom herself but just stand there? (that's what my

5

> year old did). In other words which part of the process breaks down?

>

> My smart 5 year old is only just potty trained. Family kept hounding us, like

it

> was our fault. She was deathly afraid of falling in. So I got the smallest

> training top I could find. She still to this day can't " go " unless someone is

> there to watch out for her.

>

> Cathleen

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: <mohmit66@...>

>

> Sent: Sat, November 6, 2010 12:33:15 AM

> Subject: ( ) Toilet Training

>

>  

> Hi,

>

> Help! my 6yo daughter has Aspies and I'm having a heck of a time getting her

> 100% potty trained. She still has to wear pull-ups at night and a panty liner

> during the day. She will go from wetting herself several times during the day

> for a week or two to not needing any liner in her underwear at all for a week

or

> two. All most of the time she just needs a panty liner. We have to remind her

> and tell her to go to the bathroom most of the time. Her pediatrician checked

> her over and found nothing wrong.

>

> Is anyone else having the same or dealt with the same problem. If so does

anyone

> have any suggestions.

>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

We have also had issues with this with my 13 yo son... the dr said not to worry that they believe it is because occasionally they di become worn out and do not know they need to go... we are on four months no accidents, even with us moving, which is very difficult for him, so i am feeling the promise of a wet bed free life.

Amber Barnett

From: patricia <Zazoo81198@...> Sent: Sat, November 6, 2010 11:17:55 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Toilet Training

Madeline turned 12 last month and only became 100% night potty trained about four months ago. We tried the night alarm that attaches to her underwear with NO help. She'd just take it off. I wish there was something I could tell you that could make it stop, but it was a wait and see thing for us. We also took her to the doc and he said everything was fine. A friend of mine who has an aspie son also had issues with night toilet training and I gave her the night alarm. She said it didn't work and just had to wait it out also.

Mom to my 4 girlsMadeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza"You are the TRIP I did not takeYou are the PEARLS I cannot buyYou are the blue Italian LAKEYOU are my piece of foreign SKY"---Anne ----

( ) Toilet Training

Hi, Help! my 6yo daughter has Aspies and I'm having a heck of a time getting her 100% potty trained. She still has to wear pull-ups at night and a panty liner during the day. She will go from wetting herself several times during the day for a week or two to not needing any liner in her underwear at all for a week or two. All most of the time she just needs a panty liner. We have to remind her and tell her to go to the bathroom most of the time. Her pediatrician checked her over and found nothing wrong.Is anyone else having the same or dealt with the same problem. If so does anyone have any suggestions.Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My 11 year old AS son is still not totally trained at night, but the Sleepdry

alarm actually helped tremendously. Usually, when he is ill or stressed out, he

will still have accidents at night. Also, during the day we found that his

allergies actually cause him to have to go more frequently. Add to that the

constant stress/anxiety at school, and it is a recipe for disaster.After having

an accident at school, his teachers now know to just let him go when he has

to.Good luck!

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> Madeline turned 12 last month and only became 100% night potty trained about

four months ago. We tried the night alarm that attaches to her underwear with NO

help. She'd just take it off. I wish there was something I could tell you that

could make it stop, but it was a wait and see thing for us. We also took her to

the doc and he said everything was fine. A friend of mine who has an aspie son

also had issues with night toilet training and I gave her the night alarm. She

said it didn't work and just had to wait it out also.

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> Mom to my 4 girls

> Madeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza

> " You are the TRIP I did not take

> You are the PEARLS I cannot buy

> You are the blue Italian LAKE

> YOU are my piece of foreign SKY "

> ---Anne ----

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> ( ) Toilet Training

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> Hi,

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> Help! my 6yo daughter has Aspies and I'm having a heck of a time getting her

100% potty trained. She still has to wear pull-ups at night and a panty liner

during the day. She will go from wetting herself several times during the day

for a week or two to not needing any liner in her underwear at all for a week or

two. All most of the time she just needs a panty liner. We have to remind her

and tell her to go to the bathroom most of the time. Her pediatrician checked

her over and found nothing wrong.

>

> Is anyone else having the same or dealt with the same problem. If so does

anyone have any suggestions.

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> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

Hello All!

Does anyone know why my 3.5 year old Aspie does not tell us when he wants to pee

or poo? We take him to the bathroom on a schedule with some accidents but his

pants are dry most of the time between bathroom visits. Is it that he does not

feel? or is it that he does not know the words to say it?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

,A good way to determine is to go away on a trip. I used to pee my pants all the time, but when I was on a trip, I never peed. When I was away from mom and dad, I was very good at holding my bladder, but this problem lasted through my first year of high school.

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:24 AM, <jenuhferr@...> wrote:

 

It IS possible that your son doesn't really feel the urge to go due

to sensory issues. Or, it could be that he just isn't ready. I was

really trying to get my daughter to potty train but then I realized

I just had to back off and wait (with MY daughter at least.. the

harder you push her, the more she resists). I started putting her on

the toilet here and there even though she didn't need to go but not

to the point where she would get annoyed or negative...

EvI put her in underwear and told her to tell me when she had to pee

and she was able to do that. Eventually, I used rewards to get her

to TRY to pee in the potty but it was difficult for her. I didn't

push her on it but wow that was hard for me! Eventually she did pee

on the potty and got a big toy reward for that and it was

inconsistent but then got better. Then she just asked me for a

diaper for poop and used the potty just for pee.

It took her a long time to become comfortable using the potty for #2

and I started to panic as she approached her 5th birthday. I tried

refusing the diaper and she just held it and that was bad so I gave

her the diaper before she became constipated. The developmental ped

said that was a good call because if it hurts, then she would be

even more resistant and might hold it even with a diaper and then

you've got a real problem. She suggested a little bit of Miralax

every night to make sure it was really soft so when she DID try in

the potty it would come out easily. At first it kind of freaked her

out to have poop come out even a tiny bit but then she kept doing it

and realized it was ok. Once she saw it was OK, it was smooth

sailing. She needed some educating on proper wiping but never had an

accident because she was excellent at knowing when she had to go by

then. Occasionally we have a problem with pee because she would be

so resistant to stopping what she was doing to go to the bathroom

and wait until it was too late.

I know you were just asking about pee but just wanted to give you an

overview of how I had to handle potty training with my daughter.

Rewards, rewards, rewards! For every tiny thing! Potty books and fun

stuff while on the potty. Make it a nice place to be. I think it was

some sensory with my daughter and anxiety. But also, I think it was

also that she is less mature than her typical peers so I had to

think of her as younger...

Jen

Lymie parents, 5 yo Lymie/Aspie

On 11/25/2010 7:18 PM, ssandia wrote:

 

Hello All!

Does anyone know why my 3.5 year old Aspie does not tell

us when he wants to pee or poo? We take him to the

bathroom on a schedule with some accidents but his pants

are dry most of the time between bathroom visits. Is it

that he does not feel? or is it that he does not know the

words to say it?

Thanks!

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