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Hi Jim -- Do you have an online copy of that paper available?

I'm currently looking at alternatives to surgery for my fiance -- all of his

seizures seem to be triggered & /or related to what he eats & when.

Thanks!

Anne

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>Hi Kathy:

>

>It was good to talk to you again today.

>

>This from my paper: " A deficiency of taurine or GABA in relation to

serotonin

>and dopamine may lead to convulsions; so, in the nervous system, the

adequate

>presence of taurine stabilizes cell membranes, which raises the seizure

>threshold, and helps treat epileptic seizures. Its anti-convulsant effect

is

>long-lasting, and can be confirmed both clinically and by repeat EEG's

>(electroencephalograms). It strengthens neutrophils (white blood cells/part

>of immune system) in their ability to kill bacteria. "

>

>Supplement GABA and Taurine.

>

>Willis

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>Hi Kathy:

>

>It was good to talk to you again today.

>

>This from my paper: " A deficiency of taurine or GABA in relation to

serotonin

>and dopamine may lead to convulsions; so, in the nervous system, the

adequate

>presence of taurine stabilizes cell membranes, which raises the seizure

>threshold, and helps treat epileptic seizures. Its anti-convulsant effect

is

>long-lasting, and can be confirmed both clinically and by repeat EEG's

>(electroencephalograms). It strengthens neutrophils (white blood cells/part

>of immune system) in their ability to kill bacteria. "

>

>Supplement GABA and Taurine.

>

>Willis

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Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid (GABA)

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Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid (GABA)

Gamma-amniobutyric acid (GABA) is a nonessential amino acid that functions as a neurotransmitter in the central nervous system by decreasing neuron activity.

In their book Prescription for Nutritional Healing, F. Balch, M.D. and Phyllis A. Balch, C.N.C., state that GABA can be taken to calm the body in much the same way as valium, librium, and other tranquilizers without the fear of addiction. They recommend taking 750 milligrams of GABA for its tranquilizing effect. They go on to mention that combining GABA with niacinamide and inositol prevents anxiety and stress-related messages from reaching the motor centers of the brain by filling its receptor site.

In his book, Dr. Whitaker's Guide to Natural Healing, he describes GABA as the brain's natural calming agent. He has used GABA as a natural tranquilizer with much success. One case he mentions in his book is that of a woman whose high pressure job was causing frequently intense episodes of anxiety. The woman began taking GABA at the first signs of an anxiety attack to feel calmer. He recommends taking 750 to 1,000 milligrams per day for anxiety.

For Another Good Article On GABA Go To The Society for Neuroscience Webpage at:

http://www.sfn.org/briefings/epilepsy.html

Also From A-to-Z Guide To Supplements

by F. Balch, M.D. and Phyllis A. Balch, C.N.C.

Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid

Gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) is an amino acid that acts as a neurotransmitter in the central nervous system. It is essential for brain metabolism, aiding in proper brain function. GABA is formed in the body from another amino acid, glutamic acid. Its function is to decrease neuron activity and inhibit nerve cells from overfiring. Together with niacinamide and inositol, it prevents anxiety and stress-related messages from reaching the motor centers of the brain by occupying their receptor sites.

GABA can be taken to calm the body in much the same way as diazepam (Valium), chlordiazepoxide (Librium), and other tranquilizers, but without the fear of addiction. GABA has been used in the treatment of epilepsy and hypertension. It is good for depressed sex drive because of its ability as a relaxant. It is also useful for enlarged prostate, probably because it plays a role in the mechanism regulating the release of sex hormones. GABA is effective in treating attention deficit disorder.

Too much GABA, however, can cause increased anxiety , shortness of breath, numbness around the mouth, and tingling in the extremities.

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From Dr. Ray Sahelian, M.D. Website (Click on Index)

http://www.raysahelian.com/

GABA gaba research gaba for anxiety gaba benefits gaba

GABAGABA or gamma-aminobutyric acid, discovered in 1950, is the most important and widespread inhibitory neurotransmitter in the brain. Excitation in the brain must be balanced with inhibition. Too much excitation can lead to restlessness, irritability, insomnia, and even seizures. GABA is able to induce relaxation, analgesia, and sleep. Barbiturates and benzodiazepines are known to stimulate GABA receptors, and hence induce relaxation. Several neurological disorders, such as epilepsy, sleep disorders, and Parkinson’s disease are affected by this neurotransmitter.

GABA is made in the brain from the amino acid glutamate with the aid of vitamin B6. GABA is available as a supplement in vitamin stores, but taking it in pill form is not always an effective way to raise brain levels of this neurotransmitter because GABA cannot easily cross the blood-brain barrier. Companies are searching for ways to place GABA in an oil base in order to ease its entry across this barrier.

For more details,

see Mind Boosters: A Guide to Natural Supplements That Enhance Your Mind, Memory, and Mood

by Ray Sahelian, M.D.

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Q. In one of the your books that I read I remember you writing that you didnt find the supplement gamma-aminobutyric acid(GABA) to be very effective for relieving anxiety and that this was most likely because GABA does not cross the blood-brain barrier easily. I agree that Kava Kava or 5-HTP are probably better for anxiety for most people but can you tell me whether at higher doses and/or more frequent dosing GABA could penetrate the blood-brain barrier and increase intracellular GABA levels significantly? A. Higher doses may lead to GABA crossing the blood brain barrier, but I have not personally tested this on myself or with patients. Q. How long does it take for gaba to start working in you blood stream?A. GABA is readily and quickly absorbed into the bloodstream, but it has difficulty in crossing the blood-brain barrier and hence, at its present form sold over the counter, is not a reliable way to relieve anxiety.Q. Are there any reasons to be cautious about using GABA as a sleep aid? Because it is an essential amino acid, I wonder if there are any potential negative effects of taking GABA supplements (I've seen them from 100-750mg).A. My clinical experience with GABA does not indicate this nutrient to have much of an effect on sleep since it doesn't seem that it crosses the blood brain barrier that well.

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michael,

i found when I gave Will a vit E his seizures increased after him being on it

after 2 weeks as soon as I stopped the E within 2 days i had better control

of his seizures. I thought Borage Oil increased seizures along with Evening

Primrose Oil?

I just started Will on Gaba so I don't have any thing to report at the

moment.

lori

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You are the person that lives with this every day. The

neurologist has no idea what is going on 24/7 and from the sound of his

attitude, he doesnt sound like he cares very much. If I were you I would be

locating me a new neurologist. This man does not have Avery's best interest

at heart.

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Lori,

I was told before that borage oil and evening primrose oil could lower the

seizure threshold but I have been told too that this only true in folks with

temporal lobe seizure conditions. Avery does not have this. I have not noticed

yet an increase with the borage oil. I had him on evening primrose oil before

and was told to take him off of it by my homeopath but she said the borage oil

would be alright. All I know is that it really helps his behavior so until he is

off the depakote and back to being himself - if I do not see any increase in

seizures I will continue with it for now. As for the Vitamin E I have been

giving him Alpha Lipoic Acid and Pycnogenol and I have read that you need the E

along with those to protect the body from the things that they help the body to

get rid of. Again his pediatric homeopath said it was okay and again I have not

yet seen any negative reaction yet. I have my fingers crossed.

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I haven't had to take GABA in a couple years. I was taking it for

anxiety attacks. The anti-anxiety drup Xanex is said to help raise GABA

in the brain- makes more sense to me to take the actual GABA than get

hooked on a drug. Valerian root is very helpful, too. It worked for me

when my GABA ran out, but I needed at least 1,500 mg. for a dose.

I found mine doing a search engine on the computer. Just do a search for

" sublingual GABA " .

Another thing I learned- I MUST avoid all forms of stimulants, namely

coffee. AND keep my blood sugar very level.

AND CHILL! HA HA!

Marcie : )

" Your biography becomes your biology. " - Caroline Myss

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It's a neurotransmitter with a really long name. But

most people know it by its initials, GABA. Like

L-theanine, GABA has also been shown to increase

relaxing and meditative alpha waves in the brain.

And as an added bonus, a 2006 study found that not

only can GABA help you relax, but it may also help

boost your immune system!

Plus, L-theanine has actually been shown to help boost

levels of GABA in the brain. Because when it comes to

gentle relaxation, there's really no such thing as too

much!

--- Alessandra Fissinger <menhary@...> wrote:

> anyone ever try Gaba tea?

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I got some, supposedly it is dried in a nitrogen rich environment, I dont know, we'll see, I have been feeling not so crappy lately but ya know it's spring also, and the weather is getting nice too

Re: GABA

It's a neurotransmitter with a really long name. Butmost people know it by its initials, GABA. LikeL-theanine, GABA has also been shown to increaserelaxing and meditative alpha waves in the brain. And as an added bonus, a 2006 study found that notonly can GABA help you relax, but it may also helpboost your immune system!Plus, L-theanine has actually been shown to help boostlevels of GABA in the brain. Because when it comes togentle relaxation, there's really no such thing as toomuch!--- Alessandra Fissinger <menharycomcast (DOT) net> wrote:> anyone ever try Gaba tea?> > > ------------------------------------> >

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My dd could never turn her brain off. I gave taurine and it stopped

it right away. I haven't given the tuarine in about a week or so...

and sitll no racing brain. It worked great here. Not sure about the GABA

On Mar 3, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Tammy Kuhn wrote:

> I'd like to start my son on gaba. He has problems turning his brain

> off at night going to bed then tired in the morning. Melatonin

> helps with that but don't do it nightly. But he also looks a little

> ADD during the day. Better focus in school, concentration would

> always be good. Anyway, something better to give in the morning

> before school or worry it might make him tired? He's 9.2, 110 lbs

> and it looks like 150 mg of gaba per capsule from Kirkman.

>

> Thoughts on dosing and best time? Bottle says 3 capsules daily. So

> thinking one in the morning and one before bed.

>

> Thanks

>

> Tammy

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Hi Tammy,

My son is 4.3 and he takes gaba 3x a day. We also use kirkmans 150mg

capsules. I give it in the morning, mid-day and in the evening. He has been on

it for

a 1.5 yrs and he does fine on it but you may want to add a little taurine too.

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The taurine worked great for a racing mind here.

On Mar 4, 2009, at 11:45 AM, jjpotter66@... wrote:

> Hi Tammy,

> My son is 4.3 and he takes gaba 3x a day. We also use kirkmans 150mg

> capsules. I give it in the morning, mid-day and in the evening. He

> has been on it for

> a 1.5 yrs and he does fine on it but you may want to add a little

> taurine too.

> Janet

>

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> ncid=emlcntuscare00000002)

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My 5 yo son weighs about 45 lbs / 20 kg. He receives 1000mg (1 g) of GABA 2

times per day.

--penumbra

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>

> Can anybody tell me what would be the correct dosage of GABA for an 11 yo

apraxic child?

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Thanks!  What benefits have you seen?

From: A Shadow <penumbraposts@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: GABA

Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 10:28 PM

My 5 yo son weighs about 45 lbs / 20 kg. He receives 1000mg (1 g) of GABA 2

times per day.

--penumbra

>

>

> Can anybody tell me what would be the correct dosage of GABA for an 11 yo

apraxic child?

>

>

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I think GABA is a calming neurotransmitter ... the opposite of glutamate which

over-excites neurons. Watch out for MSG foods if GABA helps.

I can be wrong, but I don't think GABA has any chelating properties.

Michele

>

> What if any affects would be seen in a child taking GABA? I am using this

> INSTEAD of NEURONTIN for my child with seizures, and am seeing good things

> with it so far? Chelating mercury?

> Kathy

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Thanks, Michele.  I'm using it for calming and for apraxia.

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I think GABA is a calming neurotransmitter ... the opposite of glutamate

which over-excites neurons. Watch out for MSG foods if GABA helps.

I can be wrong, but I don't think GABA has any chelating properties.

Michele

>

> What if any affects would be seen in a child taking GABA? I am using this

> INSTEAD of NEURONTIN for my child with seizures, and am seeing good things

> with it so far? Chelating mercury?

> Kathy

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you must explain what you suffer from,then people will be able to help you.

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> Hi, I keep reading about something called GABA on a lot of the LDN forums, is

this something that is worth taking along with LDN? Would be grateful if

someone would give me a bit of advice on this. I don't take anything other than

LDN as there are so many supplements talked about that I'm confused about what

to take and as money is restrictive, I don't want to buy a lot of supplements

that aren't necessary. Many thanks ...

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GABA is taken to help with the sleeplessness that some

people experience

with LDN. It is calming too and sometimes used in nerve

formulas in small

amounts.

The supplement that is suppose to help LDN raise endorphin

levels is

DL-Phenylalanine.

Alpha Lioic Acid is used with LDN for Cancer per Dr

Berkson's protocol.

LDN_Information has a File

and Links

section with information on Diet and Supplements that might

help you.

Garnet

susan.haggerty wrote:

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>

> Hi, I keep reading about something called GABA on a lot of the LDN

> forums, is this something that is worth taking along with LDN? Would be

> grateful if someone would give me a bit of advice on this. I don't take

> anything other than LDN as there are so many supplements talked about

> that I'm confused about what to take and as money is restrictive, I

> don't want to buy a lot of supplements that aren't necessary. Many

> thanks ...

>

>

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Dl_-PA is 3x500 on empty stomach

>

> Hi Guys

>

> I have been on LDN for around 8 weeks now. Have decided to try GABA as I

don't sleep too great, I am assuming you would take this at night. I have also

ordered DL-Phenylalaline as I have read on this site that it enhances the life

of endorphins, does anyone know if there is an optimum time of day to take this

or can I take it anytime? Would appreciate any advice.

>

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GABA for MS by Dr. Lawrwence

http://tinyurl.com/md3rsq

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> Hi Guys

>

> I have been on LDN for around 8 weeks now. Have decided to try GABA as I

don't sleep too great, I am assuming you would take this at night. I have also

ordered DL-Phenylalaline as I have read on this site that it enhances the life

of endorphins, does anyone know if there is an optimum time of day to take this

or can I take it anytime? Would appreciate any advice.

>

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It would be helpful to know how many milligrams in one scoop?

Since most people buy it in capsules this is the only way to

actually know what this information means.

Thanks,

Garnet

go_greenie09 wrote:

>

>

> My wife started GABA for sleep 8 months before starting LDN.

>

> Recently she decided to stop taking the GABA to see if it might be the

> cause of her continuing daytime fatigue and lack of energy.

>

> She reports that after 5 days with no GABA at bedtime (never took it

> during the day), her energy levels are up about 40%. The initial sleep

> disturbance on LDN has gone away. She is sleeping very well now, so

> doesn't feel she needs the GABA every day.

>

> She has decided to take a 1/2 scoop GABA once a week, as there are some

> muscle/workout benefits.

>

> She started out with a full scoop of the powder, which we now think was

> a mistake.

>

> If anyone wants to try GABA, we recommend that you start out with as

> little as possible, and increase as needed.

>

>

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Although GABA was a godsend for us, we had horrible meltdowns until we addressed

gut issues. For us, the nasty meltdowns were mostly Clostridia, but my son would

get mean when he was yeasty too.

Separation anxiety can be a PANDAS symptoms. Check out http://e-pandas.com to

see if any other symptoms relate. He could also be struggling with separation

because he feels crummy in his gut. My son was in pain all the time for months,

and the only people he felt safe enough to act out on was his family. So he

wanted to be with us, because he knew he didn't have to " pretend. "

We couldn't go out with him for about two years. Did a lot of " you stay with him

while I go out to the grocery store, " stuff with my husband. When we did go out,

we'd make the trips to one single place, and very in and out. No browsing! :)

We'd plan out a restaurant trip (when he got better) during off-dinner hours to

quiet places, and ordered stuff we could get quickly, gulp it down, and get out

of there!

Sometimes, we'd give melatonin before going somewhere in the evening. By the

time we were about to leave, he was ready to zonk out. A couple times we timed

it badly and ended up carrying 60 pounds of dead weight to the car, but it was

better than carrying him kicking and screaming!

When my son felt better, he didn't tantrum anymore. Don't worry about " spoiling "

him or rewarding bad behavior. We found that it absolutely did not last, as soon

as we took care of the gut issues. He became lovely, compliant, hugged us, took

no for an answer, etc. Bacteria in the gut makes kids do CRAZY stuff!

We'd also set clear expectations from the get go. " We are going to the library

and you will get one book and one DVD. We are not playing with the puppets. "

Over and over until we got there. " Do you understand what we are doing in here?

Yes, one book, one DVD, no puppets. " OK. And then we did not deviate from that.

Having it planned out, and keeping the fun to a bare minimum helped. The fun

neurotypical kids have is often too much for the child with autism, which was a

hard lesson for me to learn, but when we did, things were much easier.

Sara

> We can't take him anywhere! We can't go out to dinner, can't make it through a

museum, or a store, without coddling him and giving him whatever he wants. His

tantrums are bad, and he's only 5! My two year-old is starting to model after my

son and have big tantrums too. What advice can someone give? Should be up the

dose of GABA higher and see if it helps or should it be helping by now? Will we

see an immediate change in tantrums and anxiety, or does it take a while to

build up effectiveness? Anyone got some spare valium?? :) Thank you

>

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Can you find a supplement without all the additives that you can open the

capsule and mix in juice? Hard to know if he was reacting to the sugars in it or

not? Is he GF/CF, because it contains milk. But all the GABA in the world

doesn't address gut issues...that definitely needs to be helped too.

joanne

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It really depends on what you perceive to be your child's biggest

most immediate need.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > While we all want our kids healthy now, like yesterday, there is

usually some issue that rears its' ugly head the most.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For us it was the diminishing amount of food he ate, and his

decreasing size, strength and health.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We opted for something that would both boost his appetite, chelate

gently and build up a small gut resilience to bacteria, yeast and viruses. For

us, this meant Ojibwa tea. Once on this for awhile (used a vitamin in the

beginning) we began enzymes (saw diminished need for really high dose vitamins,

as he was absorbing more nutrients from his food and eating more) and his

increased health allowed us to do more active things like find out which virus,

bacteria, etc. to address.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Our choice of Ojibwa tea also benefits as a natural gentle chelator,

and antiviral, antibacterial, stomach healer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Not all brands of tea are the same. For us Ojibwa Tea at

Ojibwatea.com was a great start.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PS We had let the Docs at UCLA have their way with him medically in

the beginning and he was a wreck by the time we stopped seeing them, which is

why we tried this alternate route. Although it makes me sick to my stomach when

I think of just how badly they hurt him, I know it is what shaped my ability to

do all of the things that we've done since. We have an articulate, affectionate,

funny, 12 year old. No asthma, no diabetes, none of the many things that the

UCLA Docs predicted at age 3, and certainly in better health than they left him.

In fact we've increased his IgA, something they said was impossible.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Really confused about what to do next

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My son is 5 now. He is making slow but obvious and steady gains on

enzymes, low oxalate diet, GFCF, B12 shots, and a host of supplements. But he

could be so much better. I'm reading about valtrex, and chelation, and

increasing his B12 shots to daily, and B complex, and so many other routes I

could try. We have a DAN doctor but she is very hard to get in touch with and

we've only had one visit. I am really on my own here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What's best to do first? Chelation, methylation,

virus/yeast/bacteria? Could use some guidance! Thanks,

> > > > > >

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