Re: Meds issue

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LOCK THOSE THINGS UP IMMEDIATELY before he takes them all and something bad happens. If you have a waiver in your state, they will pay for a safe etc. I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. Also, you CAN INSTALL LOCKS and put one on a cabinet with his meds; small paddle locks work for this; if in doubt, call an adult facility (like for MR, and ask what they do but I've worked in one 20 years ago, and they locked fridge as there was a gentleman with special needs that ate as he pleased so even it was hinged and locked! While son is HIDING PILLS TODAY to get out of taking them, what if he is angry and takes them all????? So, I WOULD SAY THAT IS JUST NOT NEGOTIABLE----put your knives and other harmful things in the cabinet and make it worth the hinge (or whatever---the minor holes can be filled with wood fill and are a small price to pay).

As for taking the meds, it is NOT a choice! We give a reward for taking the medications, and took a non-swallower to one in a matter of a day: if he didn't swallow the pills, he lost privileges---we are able to use money and rewards this child of ours (we also have one that rewards or consequences short of natural consequences literally doesn't work---that child looses it, we time out the item, etc., he never wanted it again so that simply didn't work with him). BUT, there has to be at least one thing that works and it is not a choice. YOU WILL STAND BY HIM AND WATCH him take the pill, not by a trash, he is required to keep hands open, lift tongue once swallowed so you can look and ensure, you cannot take your eyes off him until the time is done (facilities do this, and require a tongue and mouth check----). TELL HIM the rules, what it looks like, what you expect, recommend demonstrating it maybe with a pea or something YOU can swallow without choking but 100 percent do all the steps, clarify, maybe post the steps on the wall by where meds will be taken, etc.

I don't know your son, but we have used cards (to give shots when our now 16 year old was diagnosed with type I diabetes-----he was in to pokemon cards so he got 1-3 for EACH SHOT----); we spent over a $100 just for the first like week of shots but it was the best $100 spent because he had to do it and it was literally taking 6-8 adults to hold him down at 8 to give him an insulin shot (he was abused and given shots! so we had a huge different issue but it WORKED!!!---same KIDDO that consequences or threat to loose priv doesn't work--he'll lose priv and doesn't care, etc.). So, whatever works, do it, be consistent.

One thing a professional told us once is to NEVER NOT EVER to take SPORTS, RECREATION, SCOUTING, etc. type stuff away as a privilege because they need the activity and sport, so we never do that. Our NT son has lost participating for the day ONCE (that's all it takes) but he is required to go to practice, explain it to the coach and WHY, apologize for his behaviors at home that lead to it, and we require him to sit and partake in practice, supporting his team (IN FIRST GRADE!------He's been more like he's much older for a long time and it WAS appropriate for him!---he'll never forget it, and we have not had many issues with him since doing it (it was harder for US to do and follow through on but worth it!).

Good luck, and hang in there!

Ruthie Dolezal

From: llamattude@...Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:45:29 -0800Subject: ( ) Meds issue

Hi;I don't know what I am going to do about this problem. My son is 12 years old with asp/ bp. I found out the last three days he has not been taking his meds right. Even with us standing there watching he fools us. Last night we had to force his meds down him as he refused. Some time during the night he managed to get his pill box thinking he would get out of taking his meds. It didn't as I had to force them again. Before three days ago we had no problem getting him to take them. We hate forcing them, and now he is being very defiant.Still not found the box yet still looking.Anyone have any suggestions about this. We are also going to call dr as well about this. It is new behavior for us. He has hidden his box before in easy to find places, but never like this. He has for attention refused meds but not like this. That was before we got him stable and well before three days ago he was somewhat stable, as stable as he has been for over a year.ThanksKarla

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Okay, maybe a simple question here, but have you asked him why he responds this

way to his meds? I used to do some of the same things, just because I hated

medications, the very thought of something making me think something was

controlling my mind and the way I thought... yea. Maybe you should listen to

him and explain why this is neccessary.

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> Hi;

> I don't know what I am going to do about this problem. My son is 12 years old

with asp/ bp. I found out the last three days he has not been taking his meds

right. Even with us standing there watching he fools us. Last night we had to

force his meds down him as he refused. Some time during the night he managed to

get his pill box thinking he would get out of taking his meds. It didn't as I

had to force them again. Before three days ago we had no problem getting him to

take them. We hate forcing them, and now he is being very defiant.

>

> Still not found the box yet still looking.

>

> Anyone have any suggestions about this. We are also going to call dr as well

about this. It is new behavior for us. He has hidden his box before in easy to

find places, but never like this. He has for attention refused meds but not like

this. That was before we got him stable and well before three days ago he was

somewhat stable, as stable as he has been for over a year.

>

> Thanks

> Karla

>

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Try looking behind the curtins on the window sills.... thats was my ds hiding place...

sigh*

From: D And K <llamattude@...>Subject: ( ) Meds issue" " < >Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 11:45 AM

Hi;I don't know what I am going to do about this problem. My son is 12 years old with asp/ bp. I found out the last three days he has not been taking his meds right. Even with us standing there watching he fools us. Last night we had to force his meds down him as he refused. Some time during the night he managed to get his pill box thinking he would get out of taking his meds. It didn't as I had to force them again. Before three days ago we had no problem getting him to take them. We hate forcing them, and now he is being very defiant.Still not found the box yet still looking.Anyone have any suggestions about this. We are also going to call dr as well about this. It is new behavior for us. He has hidden his box before in easy to find places, but never like this. He has for attention refused meds but not like this. That was before we got him stable and well before three days ago he was somewhat stable, as stable as

he has been for over a year.ThanksKarla------------------------------------

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Thanks for the reply. Unfortunatly with my son rewards and coniquences

do not work. Nor are we finacly able to take him to town and spend

money on him all the time. The doctors are working with us to try and

wean him from wanting to spend all the time. When he gets mad he

refuses his meds.

I guess I'm a terrible parent as the bilk of his meds are locked

away. With my own medical condition I have to put things in certain

places or I literally forget the meds, my own included, there is no

one else to help me either.

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My son went through a short period (and still does on and off) of not wanting to take his meds.. it seems to cycle for us (so maybe note this for yours also, the season, the timing in the month, etc). We have never 'forced' him to take them because that seemed to backfire with myself as a kid.. being forced to do something was my certain refusal. I talk to my son... ALOT about what he has, what is best for him and what the consequences are if he doesnt do what he needs to do to get through life. I know that will not work for every child (and believe me I thank god everyday that it works for mine).. but maybe taking a step back and looking at the situation one more time, talking to him and asking him why he doesnt want to take the meds, researching whatever he comes up with as a possible 'this could happen' if he doesnt. I know that this sounds very 'alternative' parenting and it does require a certain amount of strength and patience that truly can put a person over the edge in times of annoyance but it seems to make a connection with the kids.

So long story.. talk to him ... try to rationalize with him and keep in mind that the whole 12 year old thing brings about puberty and all the nasty stuff that comes with it lol 12 is when my son started the whole 'Im not taking my meds" thing also. I cant help you Im sure but know that there are others who have gone through similar situations. I hope this passes for you. Sending you strengh and patience.. two things that I can NEVER get enough of!

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Long acting injectable medication. geo

- ( ) Meds issue

Hi;

I don't know what I am going to do about this problem. My son is 12 years old

with asp/ bp. I found out the last three days he has not been taking his meds

right. Even with us standing there watching he fools us. Last night we had to

force his meds down him as he refused. Some time during the night he managed to

get his pill box thinking he would get out of taking his meds It didn't as I had

to force them again. Before three days ago we had no problem getting him to take

them. We hate forcing them, and now he is being very defiant.

Still not found the box yet still looking.

Anyone have any suggestions about this. We are also going to call dr as well

about this. It is new behavior for us. He has hidden his box before in easy to

find places, but never like this. He has for attention refused meds but not like

this. That was before we got him stable and well before three days ago he was

somewhat stable, as stable as he has been for over a year.

Thanks

Karla

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We have the same problem. Our daughter has to earn TV and

computer time by going to school and taking medication. I have to

hid the medication too. She refused to cooperate with increasing the medication

she was on so for just that behavior I gave into

her special interest and got her yet another small pet (hamster under $10). Our

behaviorist does not want me to give into the special

interest obession unless it is for a medical intervention. It is

really hard but rather than give money or shop cut back on his

access to his special interests.

For us the medication is such a necessity to manage her anxiety

otherwise what a life we all have.

Best of luck,

Pam

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> Thanks for the reply. Unfortunatly with my son rewards and coniquences

> do not work. Nor are we finacly able to take him to town and spend

> money on him all the time. The doctors are working with us to try and

> wean him from wanting to spend all the time. When he gets mad he

> refuses his meds.

>

> I guess I'm a terrible parent as the bilk of his meds are locked

> away. With my own medical condition I have to put things in certain

> places or I literally forget the meds, my own included, there is no

> one else to help me either.

>