Everyone

[Guest guest]

Jan, actually, when I had my hysterectomy, my roommate had one the same day by the same doctor. Well, months later, I had to take a lab result to another doctor. Rather than having new labs drawn, I took the one from my OBGYN. WELLLLLLL.....funny thing was, that the place would NOT accept my lab results....they said they were from another woman!

Indeed, I checked and they had put MY results in HER file, and HER results in MY file. I never went back to that doctor AGAIN! Sort of scary!

Debby

Re: [ ] everyone

Jan,Certain meds can give you a false positive on a urine test. If you're pregnant then I think I want to be your agent. Boy can we make some money. Another possibility is that they mixed up the urine specimens. That's scary for the poor person who is pregnant and doesn't know it. Why would your doctor run a pregnancy test on you? I bet the specimens got mixed up..

[Guest guest]

Debby,

Oh my gosh! Do you mean to tell me that my dream of being pregnant with twins (despite having no uterus) really could have been true? I love kids and I have enjoyed my daughter at every age, but 21 is a wonderful age for your kid to be, and I do mean 21 years, NOT 21 months!

W

[Guest guest]

Jan, careful! sounds really dangerous. Tell Ian to put a collar on your neck and use a run! LOL.

Now, I've heard of tit's in a wringer but what's a mangle?

Patty

-----Original Message-----From: Ian & Janet [mailto:ianjanaust@...] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:46 AM Subject: [ ] everyone

I had a funny thing happen to me a couple of hours ago....I nearly fell off the cliff when I tripped over my famous garden rake. I clung on to the pig fencing for dear life until hubby rescued me. Ive a few cuts & bruises nothing serious. An old favourite saying of mine came to mind afterwards...."I havent had so much fun since granny caught her titties in the mangle" ....

Love Jan

[Guest guest]

> I do feel compassion for others, it's just that

> hearing

> of, and knowing of other's situations doesn't make mine any better...

> doesn't make my pain any less. " I am sure that we *are* all thankful for

> what we *do* have, it's just that wouldn't you like to have them shuffle in

> our shoes for a few days? How else can " they " really understand? The

> truth is...they can't. I have a super great husband, and yet...he doesn't

> understand how I can be so energetic and within a couple of hours..

> it's all gone....or how " just riding in the car can make you so tired. "

>

I'm surprised how much my daughter and husband understand me. I don't think I

could be as gracious as they are. When I say I'm too tired, can't think, have

a fever, hurt all over, etc.....they immediately understand, respect and

believe what I say. They don't try to second guess me.

I am my own worst enemy! *I* don't believe myself. I feel like a lazy sloth

and push myself as hard as I can. My daughter is always telling me to stop

trying to talk when I can't breathe and she puts cold washcloths on me when I

" look like a lobster in pain " .

Other folks are another matter, though.

(wsm311@...)

Peace and Carrots Farm

Vermont

http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/

http://www.sHikingHiatus.com/

[Guest guest]

> Yes, I am here, yes I am going about my daily life, yes I am smiling but

> dagblasted it hurts!!!I am tired and it is twice as hard for me to act

> normal when I feel this way so don't expect more from me when I am doing

> everything I can to give you this! I know I am blessed, believe me , I

> thank God every day.

When people ask how I am, I usually answer " still alive ;-) " .

I have been really sick since May. I just read my daughter's new rant on her

web page and burst into tears. She has been through a lot lately herself, and

my situation doesn't help any.

http://www.heathershikinghiatus.homestead.com/AtHome.html

(wsm311@...)

Peace and Carrots Farm

Vermont

http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/

http://www.sHikingHiatus.com/

[Guest guest]

... and ..thanks for sharing your thouughts...I sometimes tell

myself it is in my head too..but onetime I was at a nice party at my sisters

house and my neck was killing me..I thought well if I lie down for a half an

hour

no one will know..so I did..and no one did know...but then I said to

myself..if I need to lie down at a party this is not in my head..or

neck..??which is

what I tell myself at home (look at you lying down again )..my liver has been

giving me problems...enzymes up since March now..they say the dragon can go

there.. I am hoping its just damage from meds...oh well lets have fun !!Laughter

is the best medicine!!Love Liz NJ

[Guest guest]

Don't you also hate it when " they " will say " so & so has it so much worse,

she has had to have her leg taken off, & her husband left her with 5 kids, "

or.. " remember the man who had no shoes...then he met a man who had

no feet. " I tell them.. " I do feel compassion for others, it's just that

hearing

of, and knowing of other's situations doesn't make mine any better...

doesn't make my pain any less. " I am sure that we *are* all thankful for

what we *do* have, it's just that wouldn't you like to have them shuffle in

our shoes for a few days? How else can " they " really understand? The

truth is...they can't. I have a super great husband, and yet...he doesn't

understand how I can be so energetic and within a couple of hours..

it's all gone....or how " just riding in the car can make you so tired. "

I think this is a " sore topic " with me. No, Liz..we are not invisible to

each

other. When one of us is in pain and so weary we could drop, the rest of

the group knows this feeling, and they " remember. "

Too bad for us though if someone we know sees us out shopping, and

looking quite " normal. "

~~tricia~~

*****************************************************************************

******

-- everyone

I went food shopping the other day..and Iwas having a down time.emotionally

due to my health..loss of my mom..and not living in my home town anymore...I

was telling a friend it was all hard on me..she sent me an email.saying that

people have real problems and I should look at what I do have..I sent her a

note

saying I agree but I do have real problems...our invisible illness fools

people...it is so annoying..Here is a poem I wrote a year ago about our

illness..it is in a form of a letter.I wrote to my hubby:

When I Go upstairs

You can follow mw you know

As if I were Miss September

but then again it may be too hard to remember

That when I go upstairs

I am in Pain ..you know

You might try to dance it away

with the music from your heart

" But you went upstairs..stay here

with us and forget like I have

that you have an invisible side that no one wants to remember

....especially in december "

Did you know you could make it better if you were to follow me and remember.

ok ..thats all poetry for now stilligans..at least we are not invisible to

each other..Love Liz NJ

[Guest guest]

> Gotta chime in...I don't know how many times ,{ and you all know I do my

dangdest to be bright and positive,} someone has asked me how I was , and I

answered honestly, only to get a " well, at least it isn't like cancer and

you are going to die... " or " well, you are here, it can't be that bad.. "

Yes, I am here, yes I am going about my daily life, yes I am smiling but

dagblasted it hurts!!!I am tired and it is twice as hard for me to act

normal when I feel this way so don't expect more from me when I am doing

everything I can to give you this! I know I am blessed, believe me , I

thank God every day. I know I am luckier even then most people who have

Stills because I am able to work. But it is not easy!!!!!!

There are times when you would just love to scream!!! I feel yucky someone

come over and bring me a gingerale, or hold my hand , or read me a story,

or leave me alone for a bit or just acknowledge that I have a disease and

don't devalue my feelings!!!! Just have someone say, " wow, I am proud of

you for keepin on keepin on. "

whew...that was a bit of an issue...

Thats why I love it here, you get it. And when I feel like poop run over by

a big truck, you all accept it and wish me better, not try and change my

mind or make me feel guilty for saying how I really feel. And that makes

it easier for me to bounce back quicker and want to continue to be Merry

Sunshine...

>

> And for the record...I am proud of all of you for keepin on keepin

on...or in the case of Supe..Keep on ruckin'

With Love ,

G.ot F.M.

>

>

> Don't you also hate it when & quot;they & quot; will say & quot;so & amp; so

> has it so much worse,

she has had to have her leg taken off, & amp; her

> husband left her with 5 kids, & quot;

or.. & quot;remember the man who had

> no shoes...then he met a man who had

no feet. & quot; I tell

> them.. & quot;I do feel compassion for others, it's just that hearing

> of, and knowing of other's situations doesn't make mine any better...

> doesn't make my pain any less. & quot; I am sure that we *are* all

> thankful for

what we *do* have, it's just that wouldn't you like to

> have them shuffle in

our shoes for a few days? How else can

> & quot;they & quot; really understand? The

truth is...they can't. & nbsp; I

> have a super great husband, and yet...he doesn't

understand how I can

> be so energetic and within a couple of hours..

it's all gone....or how

> & quot;just riding in the car can make you so tired. & quot;

>

> I think this is a & quot;sore topic & quot; with me. & nbsp; No, Liz..we are

> not invisible to each

> other. When one of us is in pain and so weary we could drop, the rest

> of

the group knows this feeling, and they & quot;remember. & quot;

>

> Too bad for us though if someone we know sees us out shopping, and

> looking quite & quot;normal. & quot; & nbsp;

>

> ~~tricia~~

>

>

****************************************************************************

*

> ******

> -- everyone

>

> I went food shopping the other day..and Iwas having a down

> time.emotionally

> due to my health..loss of my mom..and not living in my home town

> anymore...I

> was telling a friend it was all hard on me..she sent me an email.saying

> that

> people have real problems and I should look at what I do have..I sent

> her a note

>saying I agree but I do have real problems...our invisible illness fools

>

people...it is so annoying..Here is a poem I wrote a year ago about

>our

illness..it is in a form of a letter.I wrote to my hubby:

>

> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; When I Go upstairs

>

> You can follow mw you know

> As if I were Miss September

> but then again it may be too hard to remember

> That when I go upstairs

> I am in Pain ..you know

> You might try to dance it away

> with the music from your heart

> & quot;But you went upstairs..stay here

> with us and forget like I have

> that you have an invisible side that no one wants to remember

> ...especially in december & quot;

> Did you know you could make it better if you were to follow me and

> remember.

> ok ..thats all poetry for now stilligans..at least we are not invisible

> to

each other..Love Liz NJ

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would like to say I have always felt the same. If only someone

could understand. But when my mother died just 6 years ago, and it

was a very painful death, she told me " Oh honey how have you lived

all these years with such pain? I never realized how bad it could

be. " My mother was always suportive and still is with me daily. She

always took care of me both physically and lovingly. When she told

me that she understood fully I did not rejoice, but felt the

acceptance and comfort of understanding about this life of pain and

not so alone.

When we; that were fortunate enough to meet in Las Vegas last year,

met that was the other time I felt so totally understood because we

talked and just looked at each other and could tell right away the

pain that our Stills family was feeling and also the joy of knowing

that although in pain we had everyone around us that were angels of

comfort. I knew my mom was with me then too and sharing in my

happiness that I would never be alone with this disease again. I

love you all and say smiles for your day, even if you are in pain we

are here and with you in spirit in hopes you feel our comfort.

Pattymelt

I am sure that we *are* all thankful for

> what we *do* have, it's just that wouldn't you like to have them

shuffle in

> our shoes for a few days? How else can " they " really understand? The

> truth is...they can't>

> ~~tricia~~

[Guest guest]

Dearest ; I know it is harder for us to see our children and

family in pain than it is to deal with all the illnesses of this

disease. You hang in there girl. I know you've been through so much

lately and after you have a good cry try and drink some nice tea or

something and have your daughter over today for a big hug and lots of

love and joy that you have each other and how special she is to you.

You are special to us too. I just wanted to remind you of that and

send a bigggggg hugggggg from myself. Much love Melt

> I have been really sick since May. I just read my daughter's new

rant on her

> web page and burst into tears. She has been through a lot lately

herself, and

> my situation doesn't help any.

> http://www.heathershikinghiatus.homestead.com/AtHome.html

>

> (wsm311@a...)

> Peace and Carrots Farm

> Vermont

> http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/

> http://www.sHikingHiatus.com/

[Guest guest]

Been called to do some housesitting at the last minute so haven't been

able to read or write. Hope to get caught up over the weekend. Hope

everyone is doing good and have a good weekend! -NH

[Guest guest]

Liz, I am sorry to hear you are having a liver biopsy! We will be

praying that it goes well. I knew you mentioned some blood tests came

back indicating trouble with/liver, have you had any pain or

jaundice?? As a nurse you probably have more knowledge than you really

want about this procedure, have you had one before? Please keep us

updated and let us know what hospital you will be in, thinking of you,

Louise.

lizdaly101@... wrote:

> I was away for a few days..Happy birthday to Traci and Bob!!..Hugs big

> time

> for Sue#2 and Dave...try to rest..Sue ..I get really bad insomnia too.

> I have

> to take something..its been my story for years..I hope you get some

> peace one

> way or the other and can sleep..Dave. I hope the meds are starting to

> work..!!

> Hang in there...I get a liver biopsy next month(grrreat!! )...Love Liz nj

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Liz,

Thank you for you kind and sincere thoughts about me. I greatly appreciate it.

Good luck with your Liver biopsy. You are in my thoughts and prayers. I wish

you only the best. Thanx again. You'll be fine. Sincerely ---------D

[Guest guest]

Things have been really hectic since I finished housesitting. I haven't

been able to read all the posts. I'm living for NJ on Sunday and I will

have to get caught up after I return. I haven't filed my IRS stuff since

I became sick with AIH. Uncle Sam now wants everything by Oct 10th. My

sister is going to do my papers. Can't afford to pay H & R Block. It would

be at least $350 for each year I need to file. Can't afford that!!! I'm

trying to get at least the 1st year together to mail to her by Saturday.

I'll have to get the second year to her after I get back. What a mess!

Tires me out just thinking about it! Personally, I think jail time

sounds pretty good. I could write a book, maybe even learn to play some

tennis. Probably wouldn't have to work because of the AIH and might even

get a college education! They probably have a better micro wave then I

do. I could make some good popcorn. It's tempting........maybe I should

tell Uncle Sam to just stick it!!! Everybody Take Care!! -NH I

am going to have to delete everything because I don't want to lose this

e-mail account like I lost the other one. Hopefully I will remember what

I did get to read!

[Guest guest]

What a beautiful clearly stated response. It even made me feel good.

Thanks

Sharon

[Guest guest]

I thought it was one hour also...it is always good to be reminded of the rules. Thanks for refreshing the rules for us. Thanks for bringing up the subject. That is what this "support" group is all about.

Dee

Tampa FL

In a message dated 8/9/2006 2:41:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, kshosho@... writes:

Please do not stop posting. Everyone if different. I have benefited from your question. gave me a reminder that I need water... I new that but I HATE HATE HATE it. I also thought the water drinking was allowed after one hour. The rules she posted state different. I hope that you continue to post. Kira---- Spence <V.SpenceBeauregard (DOT) org> wrote: > Please accept my sincere apology for the way that I answered . I am> not usually the> > > > Kind of person to snap back at someone. I will no longer post any> questions or concerns> > > > Or problems I have. It seems to me she is too ready to downgrade> comments.> > > > I will just go back to reading. I am very sorry to have vented in> front of so many people.> > > > I am sure it is uncomfortable to be on the sidelines reading when there> are conflicts.> > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

// I will no longer post any questions or concerns Or problems I

have. //

,

I think you should continue to post.

You have don't nothing wrong.

You may not know it but, your post may have resulted in some newbies

finding out that there are pouch rules that need to be followed in

order for the band to work.

You don't have to agree with me and I know I am not always right. In

fact, just because I say something doesn't necessarily mean that is

how I do/did it. I am just trying to post accurate information for

people who want/need it.

I sincerely hope you continue to post.

7/18/05

280/180/140

[Guest guest]

Please do not stop posting. Everyone if different. I have benefited from your

question. gave me a reminder that I need water... I new that but I HATE

HATE HATE it. I also thought the water drinking was allowed after one hour. The

rules she posted state different. I hope that you continue to post.

Kira

---- Spence <V.Spence@...> wrote:

> Please accept my sincere apology for the way that I answered . I am

> not usually the

>

>

>

> Kind of person to snap back at someone. I will no longer post any

> questions or concerns

>

>

>

> Or problems I have. It seems to me she is too ready to downgrade

> comments.

>

>

>

> I will just go back to reading. I am very sorry to have vented in

> front of so many people.

>

>

>

> I am sure it is uncomfortable to be on the sidelines reading when there

> are conflicts.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just wanted

to remind everyone that those rules were adapted/adopted from the gastric

bypass website I believe. I personally TRY to wait one hour when I am being

good. When I was actively losing weight, I would TRY and wait 2 hrs but it was

tough. Do your best!

Mills

DOB 3/1/05

280/168/160

http://www.tracyslapband.com

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of imdeelightful@...

Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006

2:37 PM

Subject: Re:

everyone

I thought it was one hour also...it is

always good to be reminded of the rules. Thanks for refreshing the rules for us.

Thanks

for bringing up the subject. That is what this " support " group

is all about.

Dee

Tampa FL

In a message dated 8/9/2006 2:41:39 PM

Eastern Standard Time, kshosho writes:

Please do not stop

posting. Everyone if different. I have benefited from your question. gave me a reminder

that I need water... I new that but I HATE HATE HATE it. I also thought the

water drinking was allowed after one hour. The rules she posted state

different. I hope that you continue to post.

Kira

---- Spence <V.SpenceBeauregard (DOT) org>

wrote:

> Please accept my sincere apology for the way that I answered . I am

> not usually the

>

>

>

> Kind of person to snap back at someone. I will no longer post any

> questions or concerns

>

>

>

> Or problems I have. It seems to me she is too ready to downgrade

> comments.

>

>

>

> I will just go back to reading. I am very sorry to have vented in

> front of so many people.

>

>

>

> I am sure it is uncomfortable to be on the sidelines reading when there

> are conflicts.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I kind of like the conflict. It gets boring

listening to people talk about what kind of foods they like to eat or

wish they could eat as if food was heroin.

Greg

Spence wrote:

I am sure it is

uncomfortable to be on the sidelines reading

when there are conflicts.

[Guest guest]

Hi Greg, Conflict what conflict---As said we are all lovers not fighters--Your naughty boy .ha/ha How's your weight loss going? So good to from you-- Now about your story? Come on we want to hear more guy tales. Seems a couple of weeks ago I was thinking where's everyone----no post and now I'm so glad to see everyone posting... Deb "G. " <allen@...> wrote: I kind of like the

conflict. It gets boring listening to people talk about what kind of foods they like to eat or wish they could eat as if food was heroin.Greg Spence wrote: I am sure it is uncomfortable to be on the sidelines reading when there are conflicts.

Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

[Guest guest]

Greg,.......lol.....that's bad.......lol. N."G. " <allen@...> wrote: I kind of like the conflict. It gets boring listening to people talk about what kind of foods they like to eat or wish they could eat as if food was heroin.Greg Spence wrote: I am sure it is uncomfortable to be on the sidelines reading when there are conflicts.

[Guest guest]

i agree with greg the best conversations are not necessarily the ones where everyone agrees - opinions are good to hear. caprise"G. " <allen@...> wrote: I kind of like the conflict. It gets boring listening to people talk about what kind of foods they like to eat or wish they could eat as if food was heroin.Greg Spence wrote: I am sure it is uncomfortable to be on the sidelines reading when there are conflicts.

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[Guest guest]

good point Greg!

I'm trying to imagine the efectiveness of a support group, such as

Alcoholics Anononymous, if the prime focus of the meeting were to

discuss your favorite bar, or what you wish you could drink.

If any of my postings have been too heavily laden with food

references, I apologize, and additionally, in order to make life more

interesting , I offer my sincere intention to disagree with SOMEONE at

least once in awhile. ( I disagree with folks in my everyday life on a

regular basis

P.

[Guest guest]

Hey or Nina, Back in Jan. before I had surgery I read the section that said "pouch rules" in the links/files section ect. Well, the rule about water... I though that couldn't be right, "water loading" was for bypass patients and I still believe this. I have a friend that had bypass and water loads herself in just a few minutes. No way could I guzzle water like that!! Does this apply to bandsters??

I don't think the terminology is correct. Maybe it should read "Sip water every ? minutes between meals" or something. Personally, I feel the band should have it's own list of rules specific to it, and "helpful hints" for "after a fil", "what if I get stuck" ect. I'm sure there is a wealth of information on the web that is more specific to the bandsters "pouch". I'll see what I can find...and let you know.

Thanks...Dana

-------------- Original message -------------- From: " Mills" <tracy@...>

I just wanted to remind everyone that those rules were adapted/adopted from the gastric bypass website I believe. I personally TRY to wait one hour when I am being good. When I was actively losing weight, I would TRY and wait 2 hrs but it was tough. Do your best!

Mills

DOB 3/1/05

280/168/160

http://www.tracyslapband.com

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of imdeelightfulaolSent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 2:37 PM Subject: Re: everyone

I thought it was one hour also...it is always good to be reminded of the rules. Thanks for refreshing the rules for us. Thanks for bringing up the subject. That is what this "support" group is all about.

Dee

Tampa FL

In a message dated 8/9/2006 2:41:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, kshosho writes:

Please do not stop posting. Everyone if different. I have benefited from your question. gave me a reminder that I need water... I new that but I HATE HATE HATE it. I also thought the water drinking was allowed after one hour. The rules she posted state different. I hope that you continue to post. Kira---- Spence <V.SpenceBeauregard (DOT) org> wrote: > Please accept my sincere apology for the way that I answered . I am> not usually the> > > > Kind of person to snap back at someone. I will no longer post any> questions or concerns> > > > Or problems I have. It seems to me she is too ready to downgrade> comments.> > > > I will just go back to reading. I am very sorry to have vented in> front of so many people.> > > > I am sure it is uncomfortable to be on the sidelines reading when there> are conflicts.> > > > > > > > >