Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I would never want to " cure " my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument needs to end now. Get a grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 I didn't follow the thread on this topic. There is as you say such a wide range of differences with kids with social relating issues. Just as there are some kids with some anxiety and others with severe OCD. It is not fair to compare apprehesion type anxiety to severe OCD. In the same way you are saying it is not fair to call kids that are severely self absorbed and perhaps even nonverbal to a high functioning AS child. I have taken up referring to my now 12 year old AS child as autistic and her is why ....our daughter is so verbally gifted and has above average reasoning skills yet she can not cope in anything but the most nuturing and structured settings. She certainly is not the kind of an AS child that can cope in the mainstream right now. Kids on the autism spectrum share the problem of not seeking social engagement in the typical way. Some are very impaired and don't even speak, some do speak like the AS child but may have a spectrum of regulation issues (emotional, attentional) too. Some AS kids do not have regulation issues or not many and can manage to develop out of there diagnosis sooner than others. I see a trend toward describing kids more on the skills they need to develop ie. regulation, social perpective taking, shared attention, engagement with gesturing and lanaguage etc. Pam > > Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I would never want to " cure " my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument needs to end now. Get a grip. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 no, but they are both on the autism spectrum and have their own set of difficulties. I find it hard having Asperger's raising an Asperger's child, but I would feel it would be much harder if my child had classcial autism. But I think there are some things in common - we have sensory issues for example - I can appreciate those kinds of things Miranda > > Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I would never want to " cure " my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument needs to end now. Get a grip. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 you described this so much more clearly than my attempt. My son are similar, yet different. He has massive regulation issues with his temper which makes life very difficult. I suffer from depression. He is more obsessive-compulsive than me but is not OCD. I have anxiety disorder, he has anxious temperament but not disorder (yet). Not everyone on ASD has sensory issues and gut issues like we do. But common thread with autistic spectrum disorders lack of social engagement. Miranda > > > > Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I would never want to " cure " my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument needs to end now. Get a grip. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 that is just as much a generalization, sorry you are offended that happens a lot when ppl havent quite accepted the asd part of apsergers yet. But autism and aspergers are not always night and day, a child with high functioning autism (which is only dx as autism as there is no " high functioning autism " official diagnosis) can be so close to aspergers that even specialists have trouble telling them apart. I am guessing by " not be treated the same " you actually meant to say " not be viewed the same " b/c the treatment for higher functioning forms of autism as well as aspergers (and pdd-nos) are very frequently the same so it doesnt always matter what side of that fine like you fall on b/c you still treat the same way.  that would be why this group is labeled for aspergers and hfa just as the special program in our school district is and the social skills camp my daughter will be attending (actually that one is labeled for " autism spectrum disorders " )  seems like there is so much defensiveness in some asd parents these days that you just cant win, heaven forbid an aspie be compared to a severe autistic yet when everyone starts complaining about behaviors everyone jumps on the " i have it worse than you " bandwagon On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:16 AM, doreen walton <doreenandjason@...> wrote:  Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I would never want to " cure " my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument needs to end now. Get a grip. -- -mommy to Emma, Becca, , , , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does ever pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 You may enjoy reading Michele Winner's workbook called " Thinking about you, thinking about me " . It is a curriculum based workbook evaluating and addressing autism spectrum disorders. She describes three levels of social impairment and each level has a different treatment plan and long term prognosis for living independently as an adult. The most impaired ASD kids are treated with ABA alone, the less impaired are treated with behavior therapy and cognitive therapies or cognitive therapies alone. It really is overwhelming to try to help ASD kids I think. There are not enough people trained in addressing developmental disabilities regardless of the impairment level. I have joined Autism NJ as a way to join forces with advocacy issues for all ASD kids. Pam > > Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I would never want to " cure " my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument needs to end now. Get a grip. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 It's nice to share your opinion but I don't need to "get a grip". I've got one that is working ok for me right now. And AS is Autism. It's not like your fever example at all. That did not make sense to me because I was unaware there is a "fever spectrum?" A fever can explain a lot of things wrong and not just one ailment. Autism is autism and AS is at the high functioning end of that spectrum. As for "how dare I..." well, it was really easy and I would "dare" to do it again. It's done all the time by many people who recognize the spectrum concept and do include AS in that spectrum. Roxanna Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again. ( ) Re: argument Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I would never want to "cure" my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument needs to end now. Get a grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 I agree, that is a great book. We have used it in the past! Roxanna Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again. ( ) Re: argument You may enjoy reading Michele Winner's workbook called "Thinking about you, thinking about me". It is a curriculum based workbook evaluating and addressing autism spectrum disorders. She describes three levels of social impairment and each level has a different treatment plan and long term prognosis for living independently as an adult. The most impaired ASD kids are treated with ABA alone, the less impaired are treated with behavior therapy and cognitive therapies or cognitive therapies alone. It really is overwhelming to try to help ASD kids I think. There are not enough people trained in addressing developmental disabilities regardless of the impairment level. I have joined Autism NJ as a way to join forces with advocacy issues for all ASD kids. Pam > > Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I would never want to "cure" my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument needs to end now. Get a grip. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 well if you really want to get into that, fever isnt even an anything to have a spectrum, fever is a symptom (actually technically an immune defense) not even a disease, illness, etc scarlet fever is called such b/c the fever is the main, most troublesome symptom, fever isnt even what kills or hurts you most in scarlet fever and scarlet fever is the infection, fever is one of the many symptoms just like social issues are one of the many symptoms of an asd  but even still, asd is a spectrum not like a line but like a line graph where different symptoms can fall in differenet places on the graph so 1 persons symptom of x can be so much more than someone elses with the same diagnosis but with another symptom the opposite can be true even if they are both considered " mild " . so it is impossible to say a child with aspergers is not the same as a child with classic autism b/c if you look at an individual symptom on its own there could be a symptom that the aspergers child has that is severe where the classic autistic has mildly and in that 1 area they are the same but collectively the classic autistic is not functioning as high as the aspergers b/c of the # of symptoms that are severe not necesarily that EVERY symptom is severe On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> wrote:  It's nice to share your opinion but I don't need to " get a grip " . I've got one that is working ok for me right now. And AS is Autism. It's not like your fever example at all. That did not make sense to me because I was unaware there is a " fever spectrum? "  A fever can explain a lot of things wrong and not just one ailment. Autism is autism and AS is at the high functioning end of that spectrum. As for " how dare I... " well, it was really easy and I would " dare " to do it again. It's done all the time by many people who recognize the spectrum concept and do include AS in that spectrum. Roxanna Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again. ( ) Re: argument  Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I would never want to " cure " my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument needs to end now. Get a grip. -- -mommy to Emma, Becca, , , , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does ever pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 I have an autistic son that is high functioning (and presenting as an Aspi). He will be independent with supports (either a spouse or us needing to keep tabs). Both he and I would change things for him if we could. ....and, yes, we have these kinds of conversations. We've been honest with him since the beginning about autism. He gets it that he's different, and he wishes that he would not have needed all the services that has made him blend so well with others that people simply think of him as a pleasant kid with speech issues that likes to spend time by himself - autism never enters their mind. All that time we could have spent doing something else. L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 We used this book as well, and it improved Ethan's skills so much in therapy this past year. Kathy Derga in Medina is willing to do it. > > I agree, that is a great book. We have used it in the past! > Roxanna > Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again. > -----Original Message----- > From: Pamela <susanonderko@...> > You may enjoy reading Michele Winner's workbook called > " Thinking about you, thinking about me " . It is a curriculum based Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 I think the co-morbid conditions like depression are the really disabling factors. I don't mean to offend anyone by asking, but are those with " classical autism " less prone to anxiety and depression because unaware of their condition? A bit like how someone with intellectual disabilities can be happy as a skylark (but it's hard on family caring for them), but someone with say locked-in syndrome is living a hell? Again, no offense intended, I'm just interested in people's views. BTW I think people have been for the most part handling a heated issue very well - not making personal attacks, staying reasonably objective. We all have different situations and I would hate for touchy subjects not to be discussed because people got too wound up Miranda > > > > > > > It's nice to share your opinion but I don't need to " get a grip " . I've got > > one that is working ok for me right now. And AS is Autism. It's not like > > your fever example at all. That did not make sense to me because I was > > unaware there is a " fever spectrum? " A fever can explain a lot of things > > wrong and not just one ailment. Autism is autism and AS is at the high > > functioning end of that spectrum. As for " how dare I... " well, it was > > really easy and I would " dare " to do it again. It's done all the time by > > many people who recognize the spectrum concept and do include AS in that > > spectrum. > > > > Roxanna > > *Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.* > > > > > > ( ) Re: argument > > > > > > Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with > > severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I > > would never want to " cure " my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's > > wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. > > These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just > > cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should > > not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, > > but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument > > needs to end now. Get a grip. > > > > > > > > > > -- > -mommy to Emma, Becca, , > , , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does ever > pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 I think you have been misinformed. Autism is a spectrum disorder. That means that there are some people who are affected worse than others. Asperger's is a form of Autism on the higher functioning end of the Autism spectrum. Look it up. Not sure why you feel you need to be confrontational about it. > > Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I would never want to " cure " my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument needs to end now. Get a grip. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 I am in agreement with you on this one. AS is autism and some kids with AS have more problems than those with traditional autism. I have a wonderful comparison. My cousin was considered LFA and was diagnosed at age 2. He couldn't say a word until he was four, had horrible tantrums, my aunt couldn't take him anywhere for a while. Now he is 5 almost 6 and is considered HFA. He has made huge strides and will be in regular kindergarten with an aide next year. Now compare that to my son who has AS. He has a wonderful vocabulary, can read, does fourth grade math (he's also 6), and yet I took care of my cousin for a few weeks this spring and I swear my son is " lower functioning " than this little boy. My son has far more ocd traits, more stimming, more tantrums, more insistence on routine, less empathy, more aggressive behaviors, more limited diet. And even when asking my aunt about my cousins behavior she talked like what I described was normal for him, I thought, gosh he was so much more laid back! Just because your diagnosis is AS vs autism doesn't mean your day to day functioning is higher. So he is capable of verbally expressing himself, that doesn't mean he is going to choose to use his words over having a tantrum or throwing a chair at me or my favorite, just refusing to get dressed to avoid going somewhere. I mean you can only wrestle kids into their clothes until they are so old. My kid is brilliant and I love him to death, but if I could help him I would. > > > It's nice to share your opinion but I don't need to " get a grip " . I've got one that is working ok for me right now. And AS is Autism. It's not like your fever example at all. That did not make sense to me because I was unaware there is a " fever spectrum? " A fever can explain a lot of things wrong and not just one ailment. Autism is autism and AS is at the high functioning end of that spectrum. As for " how dare I... " well, it was really easy and I would " dare " to do it again. It's done all the time by many people who recognize the spectrum concept and do include AS in that spectrum. > > > > > Roxanna > Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again. > > > > > > ( ) Re: argument > > > > > > Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I would never want to " cure " my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument needs to end now. Get a grip. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 From what I have seen the anxiety and mood symptoms are fairly equal across all levels of the spectrum. There are some very happy nonagressive high and low functioning kids and there are some very moody, irritable, aggressive, anxious high and low functioning kids as well. I wish my two were the easy flavor! Debra Balke, M.D.Child Neurology of SLO1320 Las Tablas Road, Suite ETempleton, CA 93465(805) 434-0960 office(805) 434-0978 faxdlbalke@...Board of DirectorsCentral Coast Autism Spectrum Centerwww.autismspectrumcenter.com ( ) Re: argument> >> >> > Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with> > severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I> > would never want to "cure" my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's> > wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line.> > These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just> > cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should> > not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time,> > but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument> > needs to end now. Get a grip.> >> > > >> > > > -- > -mommy to Emma, Becca, ,> , , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does ever> pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 It's certainly a catch 22 in many ways. I think my son had an easier time when he was younger because he was less aware but now, due to behavioral interventions and I think, normal maturity, he grows more aware every day. Great for long term potential, but more awareness means he sees the differences easier and is more susceptible to feeling hurt. When he was younger, he still struggled, but didn't take the struggles as personally. Although, he still has a very strong self concept. He really is an amazing kid!Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "miranda.flemming" <miranda.flemming@...>Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:16:26 -0000< >Subject: ( ) Re: argument I think the co-morbid conditions like depression are the really disabling factors. I don't mean to offend anyone by asking, but are those with " classical autism " less prone to anxiety and depression because unaware of their condition? A bit like how someone with intellectual disabilities can be happy as a skylark (but it's hard on family caring for them), but someone with say locked-in syndrome is living a hell? Again, no offense intended, I'm just interested in people's views. BTW I think people have been for the most part handling a heated issue very well - not making personal attacks, staying reasonably objective. We all have different situations and I would hate for touchy subjects not to be discussed because people got too wound upMiranda> > >> >> > It's nice to share your opinion but I don't need to " get a grip " . I've got> > one that is working ok for me right now. And AS is Autism. It's not like> > your fever example at all. That did not make sense to me because I was> > unaware there is a " fever spectrum? " A fever can explain a lot of things> > wrong and not just one ailment. Autism is autism and AS is at the high> > functioning end of that spectrum. As for " how dare I... " well, it was> > really easy and I would " dare " to do it again. It's done all the time by> > many people who recognize the spectrum concept and do include AS in that> > spectrum.> >> > Roxanna> > *Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.*> >> >> > ( ) Re: argument> >> >> > Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with> > severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I> > would never want to " cure " my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's> > wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line.> > These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just> > cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should> > not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time,> > but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument> > needs to end now. Get a grip.> >> > > >> > > > -- > -mommy to Emma, Becca, ,> , , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does ever> pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 I know I'm grateful my son and I can connect intellectually. I would find it extremely depressing caring for someone with intellectual disability - just being honest. I went to school with a boy that was run over by accident in the driveway by a parent - has moderate intellectual and physical disabilities - he is aware of his condition (and therefore is incredibly lonely), but because of his impairments, it takes a very caring, patient person to relate to him. His aging parents have to lift him onto the toilet etc. I read a beautiful book called the Diving Bell and the Butterfly painfully " dictated " by a man that could only move 1 eye after a stroke. He still had full mental capacity but could not talk, move or eat. He took himself on journeys of his imagination to pass the time. Miranda > > > > > > > > > > > It's nice to share your opinion but I don't need to " get a grip " . I've got > > > one that is working ok for me right now. And AS is Autism. It's not like > > > your fever example at all. That did not make sense to me because I was > > > unaware there is a " fever spectrum? " A fever can explain a lot of things > > > wrong and not just one ailment. Autism is autism and AS is at the high > > > functioning end of that spectrum. As for " how dare I... " well, it was > > > really easy and I would " dare " to do it again. It's done all the time by > > > many people who recognize the spectrum concept and do include AS in that > > > spectrum. > > > > > > Roxanna > > > *Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.* > > > > > > > > > ( ) Re: argument > > > > > > > > > Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with > > > severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I > > > would never want to " cure " my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's > > > wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. > > > These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just > > > cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should > > > not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, > > > but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument > > > needs to end now. Get a grip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -mommy to Emma, Becca, , > > , , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does ever > > pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 I'm assertive but not openly aggressive, but prone to anxiety and depression - was quietly compliant as child (learnt to debate as adult). My son is openly aggressive, irritable, moody, argumentative, rigid - hard work. If we could tone down the rigidness and the anger, it would lift a lot of stress of our shoulders Miranda > > > > > > > > > > > It's nice to share your opinion but I don't need to " get a grip " . I've got > > > one that is working ok for me right now. And AS is Autism. It's not like > > > your fever example at all. That did not make sense to me because I was > > > unaware there is a " fever spectrum? " A fever can explain a lot of things > > > wrong and not just one ailment. Autism is autism and AS is at the high > > > functioning end of that spectrum. As for " how dare I... " well, it was > > > really easy and I would " dare " to do it again. It's done all the time by > > > many people who recognize the spectrum concept and do include AS in that > > > spectrum. > > > > > > Roxanna > > > *Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.* > > > > > > > > > ( ) Re: argument > > > > > > > > > Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with > > > severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I > > > would never want to " cure " my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's > > > wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. > > > These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just > > > cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should > > > not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, > > > but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument > > > needs to end now. Get a grip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -mommy to Emma, Becca, , > > , , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does ever > > pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 LOL. So are anxiety and mood disorders - which more me are more disabling than my AS Miranda > > > > > > > > > > > It's nice to share your opinion but I don't need to " get a grip " . I've got > > > one that is working ok for me right now. And AS is Autism. It's not like > > > your fever example at all. That did not make sense to me because I was > > > unaware there is a " fever spectrum? " A fever can explain a lot of things > > > wrong and not just one ailment. Autism is autism and AS is at the high > > > functioning end of that spectrum. As for " how dare I... " well, it was > > > really easy and I would " dare " to do it again. It's done all the time by > > > many people who recognize the spectrum concept and do include AS in that > > > spectrum. > > > > > > Roxanna > > > *Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.* > > > > > > > > > ( ) Re: argument > > > > > > > > > Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with > > > severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I > > > would never want to " cure " my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's > > > wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. > > > These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just > > > cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should > > > not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, > > > but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument > > > needs to end now. Get a grip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -mommy to Emma, Becca, , > > , , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does ever > > pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Wow, that is so awesome, Debra!!!! Kudos to you and and your other organizers!! A nice chunk of change you raised! Roxanna Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again. Re: ( ) Re: argument  You and me both girl! The group is going well. We raised nearly 50,000 at our recently autism walk. All the money stays in our county. Now, we have the pleasure of trying to figure out how to spend it. Trying to target low income kids of all flavors, people whose higher functioning kids don't qualify for anything, services we don't have here right now, etc. Trying to get the biggest bang for our buck. Running a summer camp for all levels of kids. Received scholarship money through Autism Speaks to send a ton of kids to camp. It is nice to spend my time on this stuff that clearly helps kids, rather than beat my head against the school wall until it is bloody. ( ) Re: argument > > > > > > Breathe please. #1 autism is n-o-t asperger's. I have a cousin with > > severe autism and my dau has a.s. they are as different as nite & day. I > > would never want to "cure" my dau. I could do w/out the meltdowns but she's > > wonderful. If they ever had a cure for autism, my cousin would be in line. > > These are 2 different things, like yellow fever and scarlet fever. Just > > cause there both on the fever spectrum doesn't make them the same and should > > not be treated the same. I'm sorry that your son has had such a hard time, > > but how dare you compare a.s. Kids to severe autistic kids. This argument > > needs to end now. Get a grip. > > > > > > > > > > -- > -mommy to Emma, Becca, , > , , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does ever > pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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