Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 > We did the reward charts with our now 7 year old. We let him pick a few things that he enjoyed doing and wrote them down on slips of paper. Each night we went over how many stars he got for the day and that's how many pieces of paper (or activities that he got to do). Some of his suggestions were build a fort out of blankets,perform small science projects, a dessert after supper, a piece of gum, he picked supper menu, dance to music in the living room, pillow fight with Dad. Just make sure the ideas are small, 4-5 a night get's to be much. I am thinking of how I need to establish a reward > system for my son to reward desirable behavior. We > did this once before and it worked somewhat. > > Here's the thing - the only thing that motivates him > is money. Do any of you use money as part of a reward > system. If so, how do you do it so that he won't feel > entitled to being paid for everything? > > I've had suggestions of extra video game time or a > later bedtime but I don't know that these would > motivate him enough. > > Any ideas? > > Sara > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 > We did the reward charts with our now 7 year old. We let him pick a few things that he enjoyed doing and wrote them down on slips of paper. Each night we went over how many stars he got for the day and that's how many pieces of paper (or activities that he got to do). Some of his suggestions were build a fort out of blankets,perform small science projects, a dessert after supper, a piece of gum, he picked supper menu, dance to music in the living room, pillow fight with Dad. Just make sure the ideas are small, 4-5 a night get's to be much. I am thinking of how I need to establish a reward > system for my son to reward desirable behavior. We > did this once before and it worked somewhat. > > Here's the thing - the only thing that motivates him > is money. Do any of you use money as part of a reward > system. If so, how do you do it so that he won't feel > entitled to being paid for everything? > > I've had suggestions of extra video game time or a > later bedtime but I don't know that these would > motivate him enough. > > Any ideas? > > Sara > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 We do Reeces Peanut Butter Cups, for every week of no melt-downs.......but we have tried EVERYTHING, he is 13!!!!!! You have to go with what interests them, that was our key! Good luck! reward system I am thinking of how I need to establish a rewardsystem for my son to reward desirable behavior. Wedid this once before and it worked somewhat. Here's the thing - the only thing that motivates himis money. Do any of you use money as part of a rewardsystem. If so, how do you do it so that he won't feelentitled to being paid for everything?I've had suggestions of extra video game time or alater bedtime but I don't know that these wouldmotivate him enough.Any ideas?Sara__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Sara, I have a friend who kept a check register to record her son's reward money. He could earn up to a dollar a day in 10 cent increments. At the end of each day they added up his money and wrote it into the check register. Whenever they were out shopping or running errands and he wanted to buy a treat or toy he was allowed to get it if he had enough money accumulated in the register. The spent money was subtracted from his balance. It worked very well for them, but he was only 7. I am not sure how old your son is or if he would be motivated by the somewhat delayed reward. Good luck, Anne, Mom to Jack, 7.4, AS, DSI, ADD > I am thinking of how I need to establish a reward > system for my son to reward desirable behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 I LOVE THAT IDEA!! Re: reward system Sara,I have a friend who kept a check register to record her son's reward money. He could earn up to a dollar a day in 10 cent increments. At the end of each day they added up his money and wrote it into the check register. Whenever they were out shopping or running errands and he wanted to buy a treat or toy he was allowed to get it if he had enough money accumulated in the register. The spent money was subtracted from his balance.It worked very well for them, but he was only 7. I am not sure how old your son is or if he would be motivated by the somewhat delayed reward.Good luck,Anne, Mom to Jack, 7.4, AS, DSI, ADD> I am thinking of how I need to establish a reward> system for my son to reward desirable behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 I do too - my son is 7 and I think that would be great for 2 reasons. For one, to motivate good behavior and 2 because he tends to blow his money very quickly and maybe that would help. Thanks, Sara --- designs <scottdesigns@...> wrote: > I LOVE THAT IDEA!! > Re: reward system > > > > Sara, > > I have a friend who kept a check register to > record her son's reward > money. He could earn up to a dollar a day in 10 > cent increments. At > the end of each day they added up his money and > wrote it into the > check register. Whenever they were out shopping > or running errands > and he wanted to buy a treat or toy he was allowed > to get it if he > had enough money accumulated in the register. The > spent money was > subtracted from his balance. > > It worked very well for them, but he was only 7. > I am not sure how > old your son is or if he would be motivated by the > somewhat delayed > reward. > > Good luck, > Anne, Mom to Jack, 7.4, AS, DSI, ADD > > > > I am thinking of how I need to establish a > reward > > system for my son to reward desirable behavior. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Yeah, it also ends the nagging at the checkout counter or in the toy aisle!! And, it also rewards them even if they only make one good choice a day. In some reward systems I've seen (and used!) you only get a reward if you have made it throught he whole day or week with a cummulative number of good choices - so if your kid is having a really bad day (and I know all of our kids are capable of having them!) they tend to feel like they have blown it for the whole reward and it can become unatainable in their minds with a snowball effect. I.E., if it is only Wednesday and they can't possibly make up the points/chips/stars/stickers, to hit the reward then why bother modifying their behavior Thursday and Friday? This at least gives them something for each and every behavior modified. You could use the same system with each reward being an amount of video game/tv time that could be banked or used if that is more motivating for you son/daughter! Anne, Mom to Jack, 7.4, AS, DSI, ADD > I do too - my son is 7 and I think that would be great > for 2 reasons. For one, to motivate good behavior and > 2 because he tends to blow his money very quickly and > maybe that would help. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 What I like is that this is actually something I may be able to follow through with. Being an ADD parent with an AS child, being consistent is SO HARD for me!! -Charlotte Re: reward system Yeah, it also ends the nagging at the checkout counter or in the toy aisle!!And, it also rewards them even if they only make one good choice a day. In some reward systems I've seen (and used!) you only get a reward if you have made it throught he whole day or week with a cummulative number of good choices - so if your kid is having a really bad day (and I know all of our kids are capable of having them!) they tend to feel like they have blown it for the whole reward and it can become unatainable in their minds with a snowball effect. I.E., if it is only Wednesday and they can't possibly make up the points/chips/stars/stickers, to hit the reward then why bother modifying their behavior Thursday and Friday?This at least gives them something for each and every behavior modified.You could use the same system with each reward being an amount of video game/tv time that could be banked or used if that is more motivating for you son/daughter!Anne, Mom to Jack, 7.4, AS, DSI, ADD> I do too - my son is 7 and I think that would be great> for 2 reasons. For one, to motivate good behavior and> 2 because he tends to blow his money very quickly and> maybe that would help.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Hi, can you see or tell his rage before it even starts? (the trigger) I think it's best to learn the trigger - the before part. teach him that feeling that he gets, where he gets it - like in his stomach, tightness in the arms or legs, etc... then teach him to walk into another room with something that can distract this rage to teach him how to control himself. I would never ignore him but will ignore the rage by talking to him about something else to get him out from it. now this will be hard when its a full blown rage. that's why I asked if you can tell when it's going to happen from the start. I used to watch an 18 month old that would go into a rage so fast and for no reason. he would lay on the floor and bang his head so hard and cause a bump. he had to wear a bike helmet during those times to protect his head. I was able to keep a few favorite toys hidden and took them out during his rage. I started playing with those toys by taking in a lower voice then his rage voice as I was playing. my low voice caught his attention and he would quiet down to hear me and then watched me play. he would get up and join me. at that age he wasn't old enough to teach him the signs of a rage coming on and what to do. I stopped watching him because of liability. His mom didn't want to get him any type of help for fear of labeling him. His day care center told the mom the same. she is now on a leave of absences to take care of her son. my son is now a teenager and when he does something great, really great, he'll ask me for a reward. LOL... he does remember those reward days back then. I hope lots of parents will post some things that worked for them. because this is an important topic for you to work with now. your son is 8 and the rages will get worse and he will get older and stronger. so it's best for you to find what will work for you and stick with it. wishing you and your son the best!!!! never give up. if something doesn't work, try something else. it does get better - lots of us went through that. *smile*.... From: Santos <santos.veronica96@...>Subject: ( ) reward system Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 11:30 PM Does anyone know if the old reward/consequence system will work with an almost 8 year old? I have no handle on him whatsoever. He pretty much does as he pleases and that's my fault totally. His rages scare me and he knows it. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 We have a behavior plan in place for our daughter. I have had to make life very very concrete and inflexible so that she doesn't try to talk me into things. My daughter has a very tough time with every transition which makes home life so stressful. I had to put parental controls on the computer so the computer would shut off and I didn't have to try to get her off. Our plan is to get her to school on time, reduce compulsive collecting to once a day (as an incentive to go to school), and get her to bed on time (so she gets enough sleep). Getting to school on time - 25 points (to be used to go to 1 store after school). Sometimes she rages at the store if I say no to something to expensive. I try to take her just to $dollar stores, petco (which I can park outside and wait for her if she won't leave). Getting to school at some time - 2hour of computer controlled by parental controls. Taking med - no privelege at all. SSRI's are suppose to reduce rage and irritablity. Zoloft has not helped that much. We want to have a p450 DNA test to see if she would do better on another SSRI. Other priveleges: TV till 7pm then she has to take a shower, if she gets it done before 8pm she can have TV till 9pm. She has to be in bed at 9pm but she can listen to the radio. This is not exactly a point system, it is considered a continquency plan so this get this. On days off are tricky. ______________________________ She can watch TV if she takes her med. Computer is earned for doing some homework. Otherwise if no hitting. Computer starts at 4-6pm same as on school days. Schedule is the same as school days for bed and shower. She gets an allowance of $10 and can spend that on weekends for one store. There is to much shopping, collecting it is definately a compulsive behavior. _________________________________ Sleepovers with her cousins are NOT EARNED since she is so isolated. Computer is still limited. She has to take the med. She does stay up late which makes Sunday usually a very irritable day. But our behaviorist and I agreed we could not limit this since she is so lonely. My daughter is so irritable when schedules change. Christmas was such a hard week. I think my daughter needs a medication change. But as I said we are trying to get all the details together on the p450 DNA test. It should at least tell us if any medications should be ruled out. Take Care, Pam > > Does anyone know if the old reward/consequence system will work with an almost 8 > year old? I have no handle on him > whatsoever. He pretty much does as he pleases and that's my fault totally. His > rages scare me and he knows it. > Any ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 hi veronica i know how you feel my boyfriend son 14 going on 15 he does what he wants also sorry i dont have answers for you i'm in same boat i heard the token economics system helps you can google it online it's free hope i have helped youFrom: Santos <santos.veronica96@...>Subject: ( ) reward system Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 4:30 AM Does anyone know if the old reward/consequence system will work with an almost 8 year old? I have no handle on him whatsoever. He pretty much does as he pleases and that's my fault totally. His rages scare me and he knows it. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 , I have used a reward system very effectively with my daughter (6) for the past year and highly recommend it. At the beginning it was very rough and things escalated. However, once she understood the system and found that I would not back down on the new system things quickly turned around. She has improved not only at home but at school as well. We came up with a point system where she can earn tokens through positive behaviors such as doing chores with no complaints, completing homework, reading books, no arguments all day, verbalizing instead of yelling/throwing things when upset, as well as for positive actions towards others. She can turn in her tokens in for rewards such as a tv show, computer time, watching a dvd, a trip to the park, museum, zoo, etc. (example for us 1 token=1/2hr of tv, 5 tokens=trip to park, 15 tokens= trip to zoo, etc). In addition to the benefits of fewer arguments and meltdowns, it has also taught my daughter to verbalize better, about decision making and saving, as well as to encourage her to think more about others and to interact with people in a much more positive way. She also really likes being able to decide her own reward as I think it gives her some sense of accomplishment to know she earned the reward. We also choose tokens that she liked. We use large colored glass beads as tokens, so getting to choose the token and set it aside is also another reward for her. She likes to show off how many she has earned as well as which bead she has choosen when she earns one. Amie > > Does anyone know if the old reward/consequence system will work with an almost 8 > year old? I have no handle on him > whatsoever. He pretty much does as he pleases and that's my fault totally. His > rages scare me and he knows it. > Any ideas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Thank you Rose, I just now got around to reading the posts. His triggers are usually tasks he doesn't want to do,like homework, or a change in behaviour like, stop picking on your sister!! Then the foul language starts, then come the uncontrollable actions (not always rages), but actions that my words alone cannot stop. I will try like you say to distract and ignore the foul language. Then perhaps it will end there. I will let you know thanks V. From: Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 5:40:29 AMSubject: Re: ( ) reward system Hi, can you see or tell his rage before it even starts? (the trigger) I think it's best to learn the trigger - the before part. teach him that feeling that he gets, where he gets it - like in his stomach, tightness in the arms or legs, etc... then teach him to walk into another room with something that can distract this rage to teach him how to control himself. I would never ignore him but will ignore the rage by talking to him about something else to get him out from it. now this will be hard when its a full blown rage. that's why I asked if you can tell when it's going to happen from the start. I used to watch an 18 month old that would go into a rage so fast and for no reason. he would lay on the floor and bang his head so hard and cause a bump. he had to wear a bike helmet during those times to protect his head. I was able to keep a few favorite toys hidden and took them out during his rage. I started playing with those toys by taking in a lower voice then his rage voice as I was playing. my low voice caught his attention and he would quiet down to hear me and then watched me play. he would get up and join me. at that age he wasn't old enough to teach him the signs of a rage coming on and what to do. I stopped watching him because of liability. His mom didn't want to get him any type of help for fear of labeling him. His day care center told the mom the same. she is now on a leave of absences to take care of her son. my son is now a teenager and when he does something great, really great, he'll ask me for a reward. LOL... he does remember those reward days back then. I hope lots of parents will post some things that worked for them. because this is an important topic for you to work with now. your son is 8 and the rages will get worse and he will get older and stronger. so it's best for you to find what will work for you and stick with it. wishing you and your son the best!!!! never give up. if something doesn't work, try something else. it does get better - lots of us went through that. *smile*.... From: Santos <santos.veronica96@...>Subject: ( ) reward system Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 11:30 PM Does anyone know if the old reward/consequence system will work with an almost 8 year old? I have no handle on him whatsoever. He pretty much does as he pleases and that's my fault totally. His rages scare me and he knows it. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Thank you Pam, how old is your daughter? Sounds like a routine I need to set in place. right now we have none. Every night we eat at a different time depending on how my 8 year old is acting that day. On good days, we eat early, on bad days, maybe not til 7:30!!! I just need to slow down, sit and make simple plan we can all follow and start there. Then see. I hope your daughter finds the right med. We just today started Prozac. Any thoughts about that? He went to bed with a horrific headache, so maybe we'll be changing it soon, take care, V. From: Pamela <susanonderko@...> Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 7:31:49 AMSubject: ( ) Re: reward system We have a behavior plan in place for our daughter. I have hadto make life very very concrete and inflexible so that shedoesn't try to talk me into things. My daughter has a very tough time with every transition which makes home life so stressful. I had to put parental controls on the computerso the computer would shut off and I didn't have to try to get her off.Our plan is to get her to school on time, reduce compulsive collecting to once a day (as an incentive to go to school),and get her to bed on time (so she gets enough sleep). Getting to school on time - 25 points (to be used to go to 1 store after school). Sometimes she rages at the store if I sayno to something to expensive. I try to take her just to $dollar stores, petco (which I can park outside and wait forher if she won't leave). Getting to school at some time - 2hour of computer controlled by parental controls.Taking med - no privelege at all. SSRI's are suppose to reducerage and irritablity. Zoloft has not helped that much.We want to have a p450 DNA test to see if she woulddo better on another SSRI.Other priveleges: TV till 7pm then she has to take a shower,if she gets it done before 8pm she can have TV till 9pm.She has to be in bed at 9pm but she can listen to the radio.This is not exactly a point system, it is considered a continquency plan so this get this.On days off are tricky. ______________________________She can watch TV if she takes her med. Computer is earned for doing some homework.Otherwise if no hitting. Computer starts at 4-6pmsame as on school days. Schedule is the same as school days for bed and shower.She gets an allowance of $10 and can spend that onweekends for one store. There is to much shopping,collecting it is definately a compulsive behavior._________________________________Sleepovers with her cousins are NOT EARNED sinceshe is so isolated. Computer is still limited.She has to take the med. She does stay up latewhich makes Sunday usually a very irritable day.But our behaviorist and I agreed we could notlimit this since she is so lonely.My daughter is so irritable when schedules change.Christmas was such a hard week. I think my daughter needs a medication change. But as I said we are trying to get all the details together onthe p450 DNA test. It should at least tell usif any medications should be ruled out.Take Care,Pam >> Does anyone know if the old reward/consequence system will work with an almost 8 > year old? I have no handle on him> whatsoever. He pretty much does as he pleases and that's my fault totally. His > rages scare me and he knows it.> Any ideas?> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Thanks , a reward/token system is something I've been seriously considering. The trick is to come up with something that interests him, which should be easy From: Cachia <denise092769@...> Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 8:57:15 AMSubject: Re: ( ) reward system hi veronica i know how you feel my boyfriend son 14 going on 15 he does what he wants also sorry i dont have answers for you i'm in same boat i heard the token economics system helps you can google it online it's free hope i have helped you From: Santos <santos.veronica96@...>Subject: ( ) reward system Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 4:30 AM Does anyone know if the old reward/consequence system will work with an almost 8 year old? I have no handle on him whatsoever. He pretty much does as he pleases and that's my fault totally. His rages scare me and he knows it. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Amie, thanks for those great ideas, it gets me started on what and how to do this. I like the part about doing what's expected "without complaints". It's going to be tough at first for sure. but you guys are giving me some great ideas. V From: Amie <amiedawn1@...> Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 1:01:03 PMSubject: ( ) Re: reward system ,I have used a reward system very effectively with my daughter (6) for the past year and highly recommend it. At the beginning it was very rough and things escalated. However, once she understood the system and found that I would not back down on the new system things quickly turned around. She has improved not only at home but at school as well. We came up with a point system where she can earn tokens through positive behaviors such as doing chores with no complaints, completing homework, reading books, no arguments all day, verbalizing instead of yelling/throwing things when upset, as well as for positive actions towards others. She can turn in her tokens in for rewards such as a tv show, computer time, watching a dvd, a trip to the park, museum, zoo, etc. (example for us 1 token=1/2hr of tv, 5 tokens=trip to park, 15 tokens= trip to zoo, etc). In addition to the benefits of fewer arguments and meltdowns, it has also taught my daughter to verbalize better, about decision making and saving, as well as to encourage her to think more about others and to interact with people in a much more positive way. She also really likes being able to decide her own reward as I think it gives her some sense of accomplishment to know she earned the reward.We also choose tokens that she liked. We use large colored glass beads as tokens, so getting to choose the token and set it aside is also another reward for her. She likes to show off how many she has earned as well as which bead she has choosen when she earns one. Amie>> Does anyone know if the old reward/consequence system will work with an almost 8 > year old? I have no handle on him> whatsoever. He pretty much does as he pleases and that's my fault totally. His > rages scare me and he knows it.> Any ideas?> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Hello , you mentioned your son is 8. How is his reading? My son is a teen now and what I'm told to do is " less talking ". I should have done this a lot sooner with the less talking... my son will have an answer for everything. If I tell him to put his clothes in his dresser - he will say why? I only have to take them back out to wear them...by me explaining why he has to put them away, He'll have another comment about that too. then the more we go back & forth he is actually getting out from putting his clothes away. make sense. so this is what I was told to do. on an index card I will write: put your clothes away. I don't use any words at all. everytime he wants to do something like watch TV (I have the remote) I just point to that index card - no words, just point. - it says - put your clothes away. for your son while this is new - he will try you by doing what he knows best. a melt down. let him have his melt down and continue doing what ever you are doing. (you don't want to give attention to his meltdown) every once in a while point to that index card. for you, on that index card will read - start your homework. the picking on his sister - we have that too. but his sister knows just what buttons to push to make my son crazy!!! so they both get a consequence. somehow it always takes two. somehow the sister doesn't get caught. maybe not in your situation but it's that way with us. you know what they learned to do. while at the dinner table his sister will yell - ouch, he hit me. LOL !!! he never touched her. then my son learned to do that. so now, they both go to their rooms. that slowed down lots. as for the language. Immediately say - that language is not allowed - tonight no dessert after dinner. or something he likes most will get taken away. (I would then write that on an index card - ( "that language is not allowed") Yes, I know what will happen next and it's not easy at all to hear his melt down. but if you are consistent with this - I promise it will work. How does your son learn best? is he a visual learner or better with verbal communication? for my son he's better with reading it then just hearing me say it. also he's best with one step directions then multi steps which gets confusing for him. when do you want your son to do his homework? would it be right after school? after dinner? after snack? what ever works for you stick to that same routine and in the same spot each day. when my son was 8 this was our routine. he came home from school, had a snack. did homework for 10 minutes at the kitchen table and took a break. no TV or Computer on his break because it was too hard to get him off. he can play with a toy for a few minutes, have a healthy snack etc.. and back to 10 more minutes of homework. break a few minutes and back again till it was complete. this will all be new for your son & you to get into a habit of doing. nothing will work over night but it does work once you find a routine that your are comfortable and consistent with. you will see the meltdowns happen less. rewards do work! brought back memories when someone wrote they went to the dollar store. We always did that. the big reward at the end of the week was the dollar store - they can buy anything they wanted in that dollar store. how awesome is that for an 8 year old. I also like the token idea too. best luck for you and your son. keep posting, everyone can share their experience and you can find one your comfortable with to work for you and your son. Rose would this work with the language your son uses - when he says a bad word that you don't use in your home. teach him a work he can use. ex: when he says I hate you - teach him to say I hate to do my homework - you are then relating to his feelings and giving him a better choice of words to use. your son doesn't hate you...he hates doing homework - who likes to do homework....*smile* maybe it will make him feel better when he sees you can relate to his feelings. I might say you know, your right, I would hate to do homework too. I agree with you. but this is a rule in every school. when you get your homework finished - what would you like to do. making him involved sometimes helps too. when you agree with his feelings, it's hard to agrue with that...your agreeing...your relating. hope this all makes sense for you and wishing you the best. From: Santos <santos.veronica96@...>Subject: ( ) reward system Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 11:30 PM Does anyone know if the old reward/consequence system will work with an almost 8 year old? I have no handle on him whatsoever. He pretty much does as he pleases and that's my fault totally. His rages scare me and he knows it. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 My daughter is 13 and we have been working with the behaviorist since age 11. I know what you mean about dinner. I think of dinner as a relaxing time of the day. But I have also made it easier on myself. I have meals that I just put in the oven when we get home, like frozen fish sticks and some kind of frozen fries and then a frozen vegatable. Sometimes making meat loaf and mashed potatoes is going to involve too much of my time preparing and cleaning up. Winter is the worst time for us. I switch to paper plates and bowls too. Any thing to make it quicker for me on preparation and clean up. The key to a reward system is not getting too aversive. I still take my daughter out on the weekend, but if she wants to buy a toy or something like that she has to have the points (respectful behvior) to get it. If she doesn't have the points I still take her roller skating or to buy clothes. Otherwise it just gets too aversive if I took too much away. I let her watch TV, even if she didn't get to school on time, but she doesn't earn computer. If she is late, I have the TV turned off earlier in the evening. So she gets to bed earlier. Computer is from 4-6pm so I can get dinner ready etc. If she has given me a hard time afterschool, it is her computer time that is not being used. The parental controls turn off the computer at 6pm without my touching it. All of the SSRI's should really help reduce anxiety, irritability and outburts according to the clinic trials that have been done for autistic kids. If you want to read more about it the book by Dr. Hollander " Clinical Treatment of Autism " gives doses and results of drug trials. The other complication is that there is a variation in people on how we metabloze drugs and kids with neuropsychiatric disorders seem to be poor metabolizers in general, so they have more side effects with less of the positive effect. Look at this web site on DNA testing. If prozac has too many side effects try another SSRI that is metabolize by another enzyme. Keep the doses very low to start. What ever your doctor gives your son at first in the SSRI class, reduce it in half for a few days to a week and then increase it to the dose the doctor prescribed. This way you let there body adjust slowly, if you see side effects at the lower dose don't increase the medication until they subside and wait a long time between increases. I hope prozac works at least at the low doses. Prozac needs C29, CD6 enzyme to metabolize the drug, many other drugs go thru this pathway too. Look at the chart and see if he has been able to take anything else off the list. Zoloft is metobolizer mainly by C19 so that is a different enzyme that some people metabolize if not C29, CD6. There are so many issue with drug metobolism such as age, sex, other medications and health issues that impact how a drug works. But if a person does not have the enzyme they just will not benefit from the drug. This type of tests do some screening out of drugs. Mayo Clinic is advocating this test and offering it to pediatric psychiatry patients as is Cincinnati Children's Hospital. http://www.healthanddna.com/Druglist.pdf Ultra metobolizers, will not see any positive effect at any dose. Here is the site: http://www.healthanddna.com/healthcare-professional/pharmacogenetics.html#cat Good luck, Pam > > > > Does anyone know if the old reward/consequence system will work with an almost > >8 > > > > year old? I have no handle on him > > whatsoever. He pretty much does as he pleases and that's my fault totally. His > > > rages scare me and he knows it. > > Any ideas? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 One other thing. The p450 test is not covered by insurance as of yet. The cost of the test is about $600-$700 dollars. I only know of two hospitals, the Mayo Clinic and Children's Hospital in Cincinnati offering the test to pediatric patients. I trust the Mayo Clinic. It may be hard to find a doctor willing to order the test and then you have to have someone intepret it for you. It may not be offered to us thru insurance until the price comes way down. Pam > > > > > > Does anyone know if the old reward/consequence system will work with an almost > > >8 > > > > > > year old? I have no handle on him > > > whatsoever. He pretty much does as he pleases and that's my fault totally. His > > > > > rages scare me and he knows it. > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 yeah i understand what you mean i wish you all the luck From: Santos <santos.veronica96@...>Subject: ( ) reward system Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 4:30 AM Does anyone know if the old reward/consequence system will work with an almost 8 year old? I have no handle on him whatsoever. He pretty much does as he pleases and that's my fault totally. His rages scare me and he knows it. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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