Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Fawn, Accomodations really depend on what type of issues your son has in school. Does he have behavior issues, peer interaction issues? How are his grades? Is he weak in any areas in particular, like reading comprehension, written expression, or processing speed? Has he ever has a psycho-educational evaluation done? ne From: Fawn Kazmierczak <lostfranklingirl@...>Subject: ( ) What accomodations? Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 4:07 PM So, I've been following along with the conversation about the college age kids. What kind of supports did they have when they were younger?My Aspie is currently in 5th grade, and having a ton of issues. He's on a 504, but it does practically nothing. It does extend time for written assignments and tests. That's it. There is nothing for his social skills, higher order functions or anything else most Aspies deal with. I'm very frustrated with it, and have gotten a book to see what kind of supports the schools can and should provide. The book is called School Success for Kids with Asperger's Syndrome by Stephan Silcerman and Rich Weinfeld. I've been focused on Chapter 6 because it describes some of the strategies used by school systems. After reading the chapter and listing what I fell Adam needs, I feel that my son is being failed by the school system.I would seriously put the whole list of things, but I'm still trying to process it all. Once I get it condensed and organized a bit better I may list the areas seperately to see what other kids have support-wise for those issues.Fawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 ne,Adam has issues in Social Studies - specifically states and capitals. Social issues. He doesn't feel safe in school so he bottles everything up and saves it for home, so no behavior issues. Definate writing issues. Like I said, I made a huge list. I am listing books I want to buy now, and websites I need to visit to get an advocate. Haven't had that evaluation done. I'll ask about it Friday when I'm volunteering at his school.FawnFrom: susanne hansen <s_hansen34@...> Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 5:04:58 PMSubject: Re: ( ) What accomodations? Fawn, Accomodations really depend on what type of issues your son has in school. Does he have behavior issues, peer interaction issues? How are his grades? Is he weak in any areas in particular, like reading comprehension, written expression, or processing speed? Has he ever has a psycho-educational evaluation done? ne From: Fawn Kazmierczak <lostfranklingirl@...>Subject: ( ) What accomodations? Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 4:07 PM So, I've been following along with the conversation about the college age kids. What kind of supports did they have when they were younger?My Aspie is currently in 5th grade, and having a ton of issues. He's on a 504, but it does practically nothing. It does extend time for written assignments and tests. That's it. There is nothing for his social skills, higher order functions or anything else most Aspies deal with. I'm very frustrated with it, and have gotten a book to see what kind of supports the schools can and should provide. The book is called School Success for Kids with Asperger's Syndrome by Stephan Silcerman and Rich Weinfeld. I've been focused on Chapter 6 because it describes some of the strategies used by school systems. After reading the chapter and listing what I fell Adam needs, I feel that my son is being failed by the school system.I would seriously put the whole list of things, but I'm still trying to process it all. Once I get it condensed and organized a bit better I may list the areas seperately to see what other kids have support-wise for those issues.Fawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 It is hard to compare my son's accommodations to anyone else as he was placed in special ed programs from the time he was 15 months old because he was extremely delayed due to the time he spent in the hospital during his first year of life. He was not diagnosed with AS until he was 16 1/2. In school he had OT thanks to help from his kindergarten teacher, adaptive PE (started at 15 months), some physical therapy, speech therapy but they only gave him 15 minutes a week in a group so we paid for private speech. As he got older he had vision therapy but the district did not fund it. While in Special Day Classes he had an aide when he was mainstreamed, once we transitioned him to a regular classroom he fell through the cracks and did not get the RSP he was suppose to get for. After 2 1/2 years and my helping to get the RSP teacher removed, the new one was on top of things and immediately pulled him out for math. In middle school he had a study skills class. In 6th and 8th grade he had fantastic teachers, unfortunatley the 7th grade teacher let her room be a free-for-all. In HS, he had a special ed teacher who worked with him and a few other students in his English and Social Studies classes. He again had a study skills class which was mainly a place to do homework at school. 2 weeks before he got the AS diagnosis, they opened up an experimental class-- a social skills class for those with Autism and AS. He was one of 3 in the class w/o a diagnosis at the time. That fall, the state helped to fund the class so we made sure he had the diagnosis in his file. The teacher was fantastic with the class and I credit her with a major behavior change within 3 months of getting the diagnosis. Debbi in SO CA > > So, I've been following along with the conversation about the college age kids. > What kind of supports did they have when they were younger? > > My Aspie is currently in 5th grade, and having a ton of issues. He's on a 504, > but it does practically nothing. It does extend time for written assignments > and tests. That's it. There is nothing for his social skills, higher order > functions or anything else most Aspies deal with. I'm very frustrated with it, > and have gotten a book to see what kind of supports the schools can and should > provide. The book is called School Success for Kids with Asperger's Syndrome by > Stephan Silcerman and Rich Weinfeld. I've been focused on Chapter 6 because it > describes some of the strategies used by school systems. After reading the > chapter and listing what I fell Adam needs, I feel that my son is being failed > by the school system. > > I would seriously put the whole list of things, but I'm still trying to process > it all. Once I get it condensed and organized a bit better I may list the areas > seperately to see what other kids have support-wise for those issues. > > Fawn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Fawn, I would definitely request your son be evaluated if you feel he is having issues at school. If his grades or academics are suffering due to any of his AS symptoms, would warrant a closer look. If he is having issues now, then middle school will be worse. Which it typically is anyways for kids, especially those with AS due to their social skills defitits. If you can get him assessed now and find out what areas he needs help in the most this will benifit him as he gets into the higher grades. I would not wait. I would do it as soon as possible. What is his dx? Why is he only on a 504? Has he not needed any extra help before or has the school failed to recognize or admit that he does?ne From: Fawn Kazmierczak <lostfranklingirl@...>Subject: ( ) What accomodations? Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 4:07 PM So, I've been following along with the conversation about the college age kids. What kind of supports did they have when they were younger?My Aspie is currently in 5th grade, and having a ton of issues. He's on a 504, but it does practically nothing. It does extend time for written assignments and tests. That's it. There is nothing for his social skills, higher order functions or anything else most Aspies deal with. I'm very frustrated with it, and have gotten a book to see what kind of supports the schools can and should provide. The book is called School Success for Kids with Asperger's Syndrome by Stephan Silcerman and Rich Weinfeld. I've been focused on Chapter 6 because it describes some of the strategies used by school systems. After reading the chapter and listing what I fell Adam needs, I feel that my son is being failed by the school system.I would seriously put the whole list of things, but I'm still trying to process it all. Once I get it condensed and organized a bit better I may list the areas seperately to see what other kids have support-wise for those issues.Fawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 ne,Adam is in middle school. They split the grades way differently here. Pre-K are in their own buildings. Elementary is K-4, Middle is 5-6, Jr. High is 7-8, and high school is 9-12.This is the first year he's had any kind of major difficulties. I think 99% of it - by his complaints - deal with his internal processing and writing. He just can't keep up because of the way his mind processes things. He's in an outside therapy for his social issues, but it's just him and the therapist. It works some, but there's so much more to do.His official dx (by the therapist) is now Situational Depression and Asperger's Syndrome. The therapist says that he doesn't need meds yet, but if we can't deal with some of the causes of the depression, we may have to. I volunteer on a weekly basis at his school, in the office. I have direct access to all the personel that will be dealing with Adam in the near future. I am going to ask for an IEE, 504 update, and will have an advocate with me. I will also have Adam participate in the conference so that he can address any issues that I don't.FawnFrom: susanne hansen <s_hansen34@...> Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 3:20:36 PMSubject: Re: ( ) What accomodations? Fawn, I would definitely request your son be evaluated if you feel he is having issues at school. If his grades or academics are suffering due to any of his AS symptoms, would warrant a closer look. If he is having issues now, then middle school will be worse. Which it typically is anyways for kids, especially those with AS due to their social skills defitits. If you can get him assessed now and find out what areas he needs help in the most this will benifit him as he gets into the higher grades. I would not wait. I would do it as soon as possible. What is his dx? Why is he only on a 504? Has he not needed any extra help before or has the school failed to recognize or admit that he does?ne From: Fawn Kazmierczak <lostfranklingirl@...>Subject: ( ) What accomodations? Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 4:07 PM So, I've been following along with the conversation about the college age kids. What kind of supports did they have when they were younger?My Aspie is currently in 5th grade, and having a ton of issues. He's on a 504, but it does practically nothing. It does extend time for written assignments and tests. That's it. There is nothing for his social skills, higher order functions or anything else most Aspies deal with. I'm very frustrated with it, and have gotten a book to see what kind of supports the schools can and should provide. The book is called School Success for Kids with Asperger's Syndrome by Stephan Silcerman and Rich Weinfeld. I've been focused on Chapter 6 because it describes some of the strategies used by school systems. After reading the chapter and listing what I fell Adam needs, I feel that my son is being failed by the school system.I would seriously put the whole list of things, but I'm still trying to process it all. Once I get it condensed and organized a bit better I may list the areas seperately to see what other kids have support-wise for those issues.Fawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Fawn, Sounds like your are on target. I would ask if the school could provide a social skills group with some NT peers as well. For my son the real issues started in 6th grade and just progressively got worse from there. Mostly because of the school staff not doing the right things and having no training. It has been a nightmare! I wish you and your son all the best. My son has serious issues in written expression. Also, because he can't write as fast and processess slower. I have had him assessed for assistive technology and he now has access to a word processor or computer in each class. He also gets more pre-writing assistance where he gets to use his strength (which is drawing) to do comic strips on what he is going to write. Then he develops his written work from what he drew. I just got this put into place last week so I will let you know how this is working. :-) Good luck and let us know how it is going. ne From: Fawn Kazmierczak <lostfranklingirl@...>Subject: ( ) What accomodations? Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 4:07 PM So, I've been following along with the conversation about the college age kids. What kind of supports did they have when they were younger?My Aspie is currently in 5th grade, and having a ton of issues. He's on a 504, but it does practically nothing. It does extend time for written assignments and tests. That's it. There is nothing for his social skills, higher order functions or anything else most Aspies deal with. I'm very frustrated with it, and have gotten a book to see what kind of supports the schools can and should provide. The book is called School Success for Kids with Asperger's Syndrome by Stephan Silcerman and Rich Weinfeld. I've been focused on Chapter 6 because it describes some of the strategies used by school systems. After reading the chapter and listing what I fell Adam needs, I feel that my son is being failed by the school system.I would seriously put the whole list of things, but I'm still trying to process it all. Once I get it condensed and organized a bit better I may list the areas seperately to see what other kids have support-wise for those issues.Fawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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