Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Loreen, I have not had any success because of compliance. If he has a care giver who oversees his medication, then you have a chance - and that is what I would tell them. Compliance = a reasonable chance of a notable change. Dick Thom Beaverton, OR Has anyone out there every had success treating schizophrenia? I am seeing a young man with schizophrenia for the first time Thursday. I would like to be able to give him and his family realistic expectations of what drainage can do.  I have tried Abram Hoffer’s protocols in the past without success.  The biggest problem always seems to be compliance and follow-up. Any pointers would really be appreciated. All I know about him so far is that he has just been released from the hospital after an acute episode; is on multiple medications, including some sort of injection he receives from the hospital regularly; and is complaining of drug side effects including shaking hands. Thanks. Dr. Loreen Dawson, ND Sechelt, BC Family Practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Has anyone out there every had success treating schizophrenia? I am seeing a young man with schizophrenia for the first time Thursday. I would like to be able to give him and his family realistic expectations of what drainage can do. I have tried Abram Hoffer’s protocols in the past without success. The biggest problem always seems to be compliance and follow-up. Any pointers would really be appreciated. All I know about him so far is that he has just been released from the hospital after an acute episode; is on multiple medications, including some sort of injection he receives from the hospital regularly; and is complaining of drug side effects including shaking hands. Thanks. Dr. Loreen Dawson, ND Sechelt, BC Family Practice --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.809 / Virus Database: 551 - Release Date: 12/9/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.809 / Virus Database: 551 - Release Date: 12/9/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Loreen, I don't have any experience with Schizophrenia, but I seem to recall an NCNM class or two (neurology, nutrition?) referring to a vitamin (B6?) defeciency being a direct cause. I have also worked heard, seen and worked with doctors who have had excellent results with fasting! Just some thoughts, look forward to hearing others thoughts. Brad West, ND CFS, Detox, Nature Cure__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Hoffer's protocol works best in a first break. It is Vit B3. It will take commitment from the patient and commitment from the family. It will start with your connection with the system and the patient is the "hub." Rupley, Jr., MD(H) Tucson, AZ Contrarian RE: Schizophrenia Has anyone out there every had success treating schizophrenia? I am seeing a young man with schizophrenia for the first time Thursday. I would like to be able to give him and his family realistic expectations of what drainage can do. I have tried Abram Hoffer?s protocols in the past without success. The biggest problem always seems to be compliance and follow-up. Any pointers would really be appreciated. All I know about him so far is that he has just been released from the hospital after an acute episode; is on multiple medications, including some sort of injection he receives from the hospital regularly; and is complaining of drug side effects including shaking hands. Thanks. Dr. Loreen Dawson, ND Sechelt, BC Family Practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 can be caused by a b-12 deficiency. as for the drugs to treat it -- they are nothing more than chemical handcuffs, and the worst of any symptoms only start when the drug is withdrawn. who knows what this poor woman told some drug-pushing psychiatrist to get labeled schizophrenic -- we all know that antipsychotics are prescribed for nearly everything these days. the drugs cause permanent structural damage to the brain. i'd bet that her original symptoms were pretty innocuous until she got into the nefarious clutches of some psycho with a script pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 can be caused by a b-12 deficiency. as for the drugs to treat it -- they are nothing more than chemical handcuffs, and the worst of any symptoms only start when the drug is withdrawn. who knows what this poor woman told some drug-pushing psychiatrist to get labeled schizophrenic -- we all know that antipsychotics are prescribed for nearly everything these days. the drugs cause permanent structural damage to the brain. i'd bet that her original symptoms were pretty innocuous until she got into the nefarious clutches of some psycho with a script pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Hi Toni, This site has information about Edgar Cayce's approach to treating schizophrenia: http://www.webspawner.com/users/ecsschizophreniatx/index.html There is a link off that site to a list of cooperating healthcare professionals (i.e., doctors, nurses, and others willing to work with the Cayce material in the teatment of disease). With best wishes, Dudley Delany, R.N., M.A., D.C. dudley_delany Schizophrenia Has anyone ever had any luck with the Edgar Cayce recommendations for schizophrenia. Are there any psychiatrists or other practitioners that work with these treatments in the tri-state area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 ---i think david mcmilin was into the mental side of the cayce stuff i hvae some tapes him speaking have a look at his applicationsof the cayce material phill In , " toni_rn1 " <toni_rn1@...> wrote: > > Has anyone ever had any luck with the Edgar Cayce recommendations for > schizophrenia. Are there any psychiatrists or other practitioners that > work with these treatments in the tri-state area? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 > <toni_rn1@...> wrote: >> >> Has anyone ever had any luck with the Edgar Cayce recommendations for >> schizophrenia. Are there any psychiatrists or other practitioners >> that >> work with these treatments in the tri-state area? See http://www.edgarcaycebooks.org/schizophrenia.html and http://www.edgarcaycebooks.org/schizophreniacases.html J.J. Surbeck www.edgarcaycebooks.org www.edgarcayceproducts.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 so my sons drs now believe he may also be Schizophrenia and want to test him/ needless to say i am terrified / has anyone else out there gone thru this / any advice or words of encouragement/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 We've been told one of our son's may get that diagnosis as an adult (dr's here don't like to give it to kids / just don't!). I can't encourage at all because we are the fault at every turn for our son's issues! That's how a lot of families with a mentally ill child are treated and reason we see so many shootings that COULD AND SHOULD have been prevented. WE HAVE SPENT YEARS fighting for right; system is WACKED! We haven't had our rights terminated to our son but we are treated as if we have. We are DONE for now. He is 16 1/4 years old, and at 18, the system is done with him, so we will be 100 percent responsible again then, so we are going to enjoy the break!!!! IT IS FINALLY OUR TIME, and our other 3 sons times, as well. They deserve to have complete parents again! They hope we do vacation too! It is very draining, and after 14 1/2 years of advocating and spending over $450,000 to TRY to help this child, we are going to enjoy OUR break. It's A VERY SAD, SAD world with mental illness. Meanwhile, I AM GETTING MY MASTERS, and focussing on ME! Something I have not gotten to do; my husband is planning to return to college too, and we are going to advocate for the mentally ill and make a difference but not for the next 2 years at least!!! Hang in there, and make sure to keep yourself safe and make time to stay sane as it is an insane world out there! MOST professionals WILL support you but if your son gets where you have to have help / can't keep child in home safely, that is when the system can be wacked but we HAVE to do the right things. GOOD LUCK, and God BLESS!!!!. Ruthie From: maddness2407@...Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 03:43:05 +0000Subject: ( ) schizophrenia so my sons drs now believe he may also be Schizophrenia and want to test him/ needless to say i am terrified / has anyone else out there gone thru this / any advice or words of encouragement/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I would educate yourself on these various disorders. You know your child's issues. What do you think they are? If he has schizophenia there is medication to treat it. My husband's brother was schizophrenic. He died at age 50 of complicaions from diabetes. He was a fairly normal kid and then at puberty he developed very fearful hallucinations. My husband's other brother has AS and bipolar. He was always developmentally delayed, did not fit in and as he got older he had mood swings. These disorders are very different. But some kids have a mix of issues. It is good to know what is the problem so treatment can be effective. I also would not take some doctors opinion as fact. It has to make sense to you. How old is your son and what are his issues? Pam > > so my sons drs now believe he may also be Schizophrenia and want to test him/ needless to say i am terrified / has anyone else out there gone thru this / any advice or words of encouragement/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 PS.I don't know of any specific test for schizophrenia. MRIs are not used to make diagnosises yet. What do they mean " test " . Pam > > so my sons drs now believe he may also be Schizophrenia and want to test him/ needless to say i am terrified / has anyone else out there gone thru this / any advice or words of encouragement/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I Don't have a ton of time right now, bout to walk out the door, but here is a video I agree with. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9cg4454mYA Watch the whole thing. I agree with him that the body will function properly given all the vitamins, minerals and other components it needs to function like a well oiled machine. However I disagree that supplements are the best way to correct those deficiencies. Supplements are better than nothing, but food is the proper avenue to correcting such issues. And not just any food, but raw foods, and for humans, especially raw animal foods. If I were your sister and if I had the ability to do so. I'd juice lots of colorful not root veggies. I'd also eat lots of raw pastured animal organs, specifically glands and others such as liver and brain (I know, scary, but like cures like and eating these things helps give the body the raw materials it needs to regenerate the corresponding organs) her issue is largely a brain issue and so that is where to look for treatment. Everyone gets toxic in different ways, hers manifests as schizophrenia. The veggies will flush out toxins while imparting vitamins and minerals. The Animal foods will move out toxins by binding with fats and regenerating dead/sick tissue. I'd also eat plenty of Fermented Skate or Cod Liver oil from green pastures. That is just my take, she could probably correct her condition without a bunch of raw animal foods, but it would be much more rapid and complete if she would incorporate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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