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No. People with autism can have an IQ anywhere - from low to high and in between. Functioning is not directly related to IQ, although if one has a low IQ, functioning will be less. For people with AS, the IQ is within the normal to above normal range only.

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IQ? Re: ( ) Cure

Is the main difference btwn classical autism and asperger's IQ? Is it low IQ that gives the intellectual disability and increased impairment?

I do see your point - I am glad my son is not severely intellectually disabled - I would find that incredibly hard to deal with. We have some adults that live next door that need a carer 24 hours. My son was up on the fence chatting to them - he asked me why they "talk funny". I get a fright when they laugh or tantrum because it sounds so odd.

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> >>>We all love our children and we all will say we lovethem as theyare.

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I think what makes me smile is our clients are proof that just because some one has autism they cant love, or understand it, because they do in their own way, one of my clients who is non verbal Autistic love hugs, but she is also the firts one to punch you in the gut at a moments notice. I love them all, and they are happy adults, they get to go to concerts, and outings during the week, trips, bingo. I enjoy my job, but it gives you a whole new prespective on Aspergers.

From: miranda.flemming <miranda.flemming@...>Subject: IQ? Re: ( ) Cure Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 5:27 PM

Is the main difference btwn classical autism and asperger's IQ? Is it low IQ that gives the intellectual disability and increased impairment? I do see your point - I am glad my son is not severely intellectually disabled - I would find that incredibly hard to deal with. We have some adults that live next door that need a carer 24 hours. My son was up on the fence chatting to them - he asked me why they "talk funny". I get a fright when they laugh or tantrum because it sounds so odd. Miranda > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>I somehow have lost the thread to this and was going torespond to > >>>Roxanna’s comment that if there was a cure for autism shewould go for > >>>it “in a heartbeat, half a heartbeat�. I totallyagree withRoxanna. > >>>We all love our children and we all will say we lovethem as theyare. > >>>But to say you wouldn’t want them cured of autismif that was possible > >>>is just as silly as saying you wouldn’t want yourchild cured if they > >>>had __________ (fill in the blank:

diabetes, cancer,deafness, > >>>blindness, the list could go on and on). Many of us on thisgrouphave > >>>kids who are older and we have spent years and years on > >>>therapies,support, medications, and continue to see our kids > >struggle. > >>>So, to sayyou wouldn’t want your child cured is silly (I am trying to > >>>be nice as Ican think of much more appropriate, though less > >politically > >>>correct, language). > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, thetroublemakers, >

>>>the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see > >>>thingsdifferently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, > >>>disagree withthem, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you > >can't > >>>do is ignore thembecause they change things... they push the human > >race > >>>forward, and while somemay see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, > >>>because the ones who are crazyenough to think that they can change the > >>>world, are the ones who do.� - Steve Jobs > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, > >>>the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things > >>>differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, >

>>>disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you > >>>can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the > >>>human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we > >>>see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they > >>>can change the world, are the ones who do.� - SteveJobs > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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It takes a special kind of person to work with people that require high

intensity care. My mother and one of my sisters are able to - I am not

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> > >>>it  " in a heartbeat, half a heartbeat�. I totallyagree

withRoxanna.

> > >>>We all love our children and we all will say we lovethem as theyare.

> > >>>But to say you wouldn’t want them cured of autismif that was

possible

> > >>>is just as silly as saying you wouldn’t want yourchild cured if

they

> > >>>had __________ (fill in the blank: diabetes, cancer,deafness,

> > >>>blindness, the list could go on and on). Many of us on thisgrouphave

> > >>>kids who are older and we have spent years and years on

> > >>>therapies,support, medications, and continue to see our kids

> > >struggle.

> > >>>So, to sayyou wouldn’t want your child cured is silly (I am trying

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> > >>>the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see

> > >>>thingsdifferently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them,

> > >>>disagree withthem, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you

> > >can't

> > >>>do is ignore thembecause they change things... they push the human

> > >race

> > >>>forward, and while somemay see them as the crazy ones, we see genius,

> > >>>because the ones who are crazyenough to think that they can change the

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> > >>>the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things

> > >>>differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them,

> > >>>disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you

> > >>>can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the

> > >>>human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we

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I adore our clients, i am filled with laughter every day, i get more hugs than

one person can imagine, and at our work softball games they are our biggest

fans, they will also tell us when we suck! Lol! Yes there are bad days, when we

get called names, told to f off, and hit kicked and punched but i just roll with

it! All of our clients are adults, with the exception of one house. Marc started

50 years ago when schools didn't have a place for kids with disabilities. We

started as a school and day care. When the schools started the se programs, we

realized our kids were growing up and had no where to go to live a somewhat

independent life. We offer so many services, soon a new program specifically for

Autism! More to come on that as it develops!

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>It takes a special kind of person to work with people that require high

intensity care. My mother and one of my sisters are able to - I am not

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shewould go for

>> > >>>it  " in a heartbeat, half a heartbeat�. I

totallyagree withRoxanna.

>> > >>>We all love our children and we all will say we lovethem as theyare.

>> > >>>But to say you wouldn’t want them cured of autismif that

was possible

>> > >>>is just as silly as saying you wouldn’t want yourchild

cured if they

>> > >>>had __________ (fill in the blank: diabetes, cancer,deafness,

>> > >>>blindness, the list could go on and on). Many of us on thisgrouphave

>> > >>>kids who are older and we have spent years and years on

>> > >>>therapies,support, medications, and continue to see our kids

>> > >struggle.

>> > >>>So, to sayyou wouldn’t want your child cured is silly (I

am trying to

>> > >>>be nice as Ican think of much more appropriate, though less

>> > >politically

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thetroublemakers,

>> > >>>the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see

>> > >>>thingsdifferently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them,

>> > >>>disagree withthem, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you

>> > >can't

>> > >>>do is ignore thembecause they change things... they push the human

>> > >race

>> > >>>forward, and while somemay see them as the crazy ones, we see genius,

>> > >>>because the ones who are crazyenough to think that they can change the

>> > >>>world, are the ones who do.� - Steve Jobs

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>> > >>> " Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the

troublemakers,

>> > >>>the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things

>> > >>>differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them,

>> > >>>disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you

>> > >>>can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the

>> > >>>human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we

>> > >>>see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they

>> > >>>can change the world, are the ones who do.� - SteveJobs

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