Re: Question about behaviour

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Sounds like normal kid behavior, exacerbated by AS, so it might make solving the problem more difficult. I could see my 8 year old NT daughter doing this but my 13 year old son with Aspergers would Never do anything like this.Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "breann1789" <breann21@...>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:58:18 -0000< >Subject: ( ) Question about behaviour My daughter who is 10 and has high functioning AS, for the last eight years she has continued to go in our two bathrooms and use all the lotion, cologne, soap and so on. She either squeezes it down the sink, into the bathtub, down the shower drain and so on. She also mixes the liquids together and makes a mess. She has been told since she started doing this at two that she is not to do that and at times she has not been allowed in my mother-in-law's bathroom due to this continued behaviour. The last two months she has been caught doing this she now says sorry and that she knows not to do it but her brain tells her to do it and she can't not do it.She also says that when she takes things that she shouldn't that she knows not to do it but her brain makes her do it anyways and she cna't stop it.My question is, is this normal behaviour for a child with AS? I am new to AS but not to my daughter's behaviour. I know she doesn't comprehend a lot of things but when asked she can now tell you right from wrong. Does a child with AS does their brain " force " them to do things that they know not to do?Thank you,~BreAnnMom to and Josh

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So then it is normal behaviour for a child BUT her still doing it after knowing

not to do it is most likely from the AS? That sounds right to me.

I do not have another child other than my step-son who was 15 when I moved here.

He was 11 when I met him but his dad and I had a long distance relationship so I

did not see him for months at a time.

When we meet with the Autism Consultant I will be asking her on how to go about

changing this behaviour.

~BreAnn

Mom to and Josh

>

> Sounds like normal kid behavior, exacerbated by AS, so it might make solving

the problem more difficult. I could see my 8 year old NT daughter doing this but

my 13 year old son with Aspergers would Never do anything like this.

> Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

>

> ( ) Question about behaviour

>

> My daughter who is 10 and has high functioning AS, for the last eight

years she has continued to go in our two bathrooms and use all the lotion,

cologne, soap and so on. She either squeezes it down the sink, into the

bathtub, down the shower drain and so on. She also mixes the liquids together

and makes a mess. She has been told since she started doing this at two that

she is not to do that and at times she has not been allowed in my

mother-in-law's bathroom due to this continued behaviour. The last two months

she has been caught doing this she now says sorry and that she knows not to do

it but her brain tells her to do it and she can't not do it.

>

> She also says that when she takes things that she shouldn't that she knows not

to do it but her brain makes her do it anyways and she cna't stop it.

>

> My question is, is this normal behaviour for a child with AS? I am new to AS

but not to my daughter's behaviour. I know she doesn't comprehend a lot of

things but when asked she can now tell you right from wrong. Does a child with

AS does their brain " force " them to do things that they know not to do?

>

> Thank you,

> ~BreAnn

> Mom to and Josh

>

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My dd - 8 - talks about her brain making her do things - particularly food cravings and scribbling on clothing and other inappropriate surfaces. She always talks about her brain as if it is a separate entity, but my undiagnosed (but definitely AS) DH talks about himself in the third person to her eg "dd, Daddy can't come and play with now" never "I" or "me".

The separation of different parts or entities seems to be part of they way they think. I always chuckle when I remember DH saying to DD "part of me wants to take you to the zoo" and DD asking "which part" and then ensued a conversation tying down which part of the brain in DH's head wanted to take her to the zoo...

Not sure if these ramblings are even vaguely useful!

a

From: smacalli@...

Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:52 PM

Subject: Re: ( ) Question about behaviour

Sounds like normal kid behavior, exacerbated by AS, so it might make solving the problem more difficult. I could see my 8 year old NT daughter doing this but my 13 year old son with Aspergers would Never do anything like this. Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

From: "breann1789" <breann21aim>

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:58:18 -0000

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Subject: ( ) Question about behaviour

My daughter who is 10 and has high functioning AS, for the last eight years she has continued to go in our two bathrooms and use all the lotion, cologne, soap and so on. She either squeezes it down the sink, into the bathtub, down the shower drain and so on. She also mixes the liquids together and makes a mess. She has been told since she started doing this at two that she is not to do that and at times she has not been allowed in my mother-in-law's bathroom due to this continued behaviour. The last two months she has been caught doing this she now says sorry and that she knows not to do it but her brain tells her to do it and she can't not do it.She also says that when she takes things that she shouldn't that she knows not to do it but her brain makes her do it anyways and she cna't stop it.My question is, is this normal behaviour for a child with AS? I am new to AS but not to my daughter's behaviour. I know she doesn't comprehend a lot of things but when asked she can now tell you right from wrong. Does a child with AS does their brain "force" them to do things that they know not to do?Thank you,~BreAnnMom to and Josh

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My 8 yo Aspie daughter is always *concocting* things in the bathroom or getting into stuff. We have notes around the house that remind her "Do you have permission" And I always tell her if she has something she thinks she wants to try to come talk to me. Its helping a lot! But she still uses to much shampoo and soap in the shower which goes down the drain, but I dont stress it because its easy to clean up there :-D for her its a very tactile thing. She loves the feeling of squishy in her hands so I let her as long as its done in the appropriate place. On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:52 AM, smacalli@... wrote:

Sounds like normal kid behavior, exacerbated by AS, so it might make solving the problem more difficult. I could see my 8 year old NT daughter doing this but my 13 year old son with Aspergers would Never do anything like this.Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: "breann1789" <breann21aim>

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:58:18 -0000< >Subject: ( ) Question about behaviour

My daughter who is 10 and has high functioning AS, for the last eight years she has continued to go in our two bathrooms and use all the lotion, cologne, soap and so on. She either squeezes it down the sink, into the bathtub, down the shower drain and so on. She also mixes the liquids together and makes a mess. She has been told since she started doing this at two that she is not to do that and at times she has not been allowed in my mother-in-law's bathroom due to this continued behaviour. The last two months she has been caught doing this she now says sorry and that she knows not to do it but her brain tells her to do it and she can't not do it.

She also says that when she takes things that she shouldn't that she knows not to do it but her brain makes her do it anyways and she cna't stop it.

My question is, is this normal behaviour for a child with AS? I am new to AS but not to my daughter's behaviour. I know she doesn't comprehend a lot of things but when asked she can now tell you right from wrong. Does a child with AS does their brain "force" them to do things that they know not to do?

Thank you,

~BreAnn

Mom to and Josh

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

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My son w/ Aspergers is better about not doing something he knows he's not supposed to do than my NT daughter. It's a matter of personalities. My daughter has to learn the hard way more times than I'd like her to. My son is very different in that regard (in a good way!) I was trying to say that it sounds like a normal kid thing to do, but figuring out how to get her to stop might be more difficult because of the AS.

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: BreAnn <breann21@...> Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 10:29:57 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Question about behaviour

So then it is normal behaviour for a child BUT her still doing it after knowing not to do it is most likely from the AS? That sounds right to me.I do not have another child other than my step-son who was 15 when I moved here. He was 11 when I met him but his dad and I had a long distance relationship so I did not see him for months at a time.When we meet with the Autism Consultant I will be asking her on how to go about changing this behaviour.~BreAnnMom to and Josh>> Sounds like normal kid behavior, exacerbated by AS, so it might make solving the problem more difficult. I could see my 8 year old NT daughter doing this but my 13 year old son with Aspergers would Never do anything like this.>

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T> > ( ) Question about behaviour> > My daughter who is 10 and has high functioning AS, for the last eight years she has continued to go in our two bathrooms and use all the lotion, cologne, soap and so on. She either squeezes it down the sink, into the bathtub, down the shower drain and so on. She also mixes the liquids together and makes a mess. She has been told since she started doing this at two that she is not to do that and at times she has not been allowed in my mother-in-law' s bathroom due to this continued behaviour. The last two months she has

been caught doing this she now says sorry and that she knows not to do it but her brain tells her to do it and she can't not do it.> > She also says that when she takes things that she shouldn't that she knows not to do it but her brain makes her do it anyways and she cna't stop it.> > My question is, is this normal behaviour for a child with AS? I am new to AS but not to my daughter's behaviour. I know she doesn't comprehend a lot of things but when asked she can now tell you right from wrong. Does a child with AS does their brain "force" them to do things that they know not to do?> > Thank you,> ~BreAnn> Mom to and Josh>

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my daughter says the same thing about her brain. On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:15 AM, a wrote:

My dd - 8 - talks about her brain making her do things - particularly food cravings and scribbling on clothing and other inappropriate surfaces. She always talks about her brain as if it is a separate entity, but my undiagnosed (but definitely AS) DH talks about himself in the third person to her eg "dd, Daddy can't come and play with now" never "I" or "me".

The separation of different parts or entities seems to be part of they way they think. I always chuckle when I remember DH saying to DD "part of me wants to take you to the zoo" and DD asking "which part" and then ensued a conversation tying down which part of the brain in DH's head wanted to take her to the zoo...

Not sure if these ramblings are even vaguely useful!

a

From: smacalli

Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:52 PM

Subject: Re: ( ) Question about behaviour

Sounds like normal kid behavior, exacerbated by AS, so it might make solving the problem more difficult. I could see my 8 year old NT daughter doing this but my 13 year old son with Aspergers would Never do anything like this. Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

From: "breann1789" <breann21aim>

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:58:18 -0000

< >

Subject: ( ) Question about behaviour

My daughter who is 10 and has high functioning AS, for the last eight years she has continued to go in our two bathrooms and use all the lotion, cologne, soap and so on. She either squeezes it down the sink, into the bathtub, down the shower drain and so on. She also mixes the liquids together and makes a mess. She has been told since she started doing this at two that she is not to do that and at times she has not been allowed in my mother-in-law's bathroom due to this continued behaviour. The last two months she has been caught doing this she now says sorry and that she knows not to do it but her brain tells her to do it and she can't not do it.She also says that when she takes things that she shouldn't that she knows not to do it but her brain makes her do it anyways and she cna't stop it.My question is, is this normal behaviour for a child with AS? I am new to AS but not to my daughter's behaviour. I know she doesn't comprehend a lot of things but when asked she can now tell you right from wrong. Does a child with AS does their brain "force" them to do things that they know not to do?Thank you,~BreAnnMom to and Josh

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

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It's probably easier to blame the brain than to accept responsibility

for making a mess. Some kids make up an imaginary friend. Other kids

blame a sibling or the dog. My own ds (now 21, hfa) used to be really

tough on bathroom soaps and lotions. He loved them and he never took a

bath or shower where the soap wasn't emptied, shampoo bottles empty,

soap bars mushed into stubs of goo. I think it was a sensory thing

with him - he liked to smush it, watch it bubble, smell it. It did

make me nuts. I did get on to him for doing it but that did nothing to

stop the behavior. I also learned not to spend too much on shampoos

and soaps while he was in this phase. Somewhere along the way, he

stopped doing it but I don't remember when - 15 or 16? On the plus

side, he was very conscious of smelling nice and so during the teen

years, I never had a problem with getting him to shower or having him

not care that he smelled good. So that was a plus to this fascination

with soaps and shampoos. He's very good at grooming himself now.

Roxanna

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

( ) Question about behaviour

My daughter who is 10 and has high functioning AS, for the last

eight years she has continued to go in our two bathrooms and use all

the lotion, cologne, soap and so on. She either squeezes it down the

sink, into the bathtub, down the shower drain and so on. She also

mixes the liquids together and makes a mess. She has been told since

she started doing this at two that she is not to do that and at times

she has not been allowed in my mother-in-law's bathroom due to this

continued behaviour. The last two months she has been caught doing

this she now says sorry and that she knows not to do it but her brain

tells her to do it and she can't not do it.

She also says that when she takes things that she shouldn't that she

knows not to do it but her brain makes her do it anyways and she cna't

stop it.

My question is, is this normal behaviour for a child with AS? I am new

to AS but not to my daughter's behaviour. I know she doesn't

comprehend a lot of things but when asked she can now tell you right

from wrong. Does a child with AS does their brain " force " them to do

things that they know not to do?

Thank you,

~BreAnn

Mom to and Josh

[Guest guest]

yes the brain can force things I believe. My husband has AS and I reason with him about little things here or there but he has things that he tell me "flare up his asperger's" and if it is one of those things I just let him have it. He is embarrassed about his AS but he knows it is something he struggles with. I just need him to be honesty with me. I can tell when he is having an AS moment I just want him to learn to identify it. He gets really really mad at himself when it happens but I think he was just embarrassed. I don't make a big deal about it so he tries to relax more. He told me AS is a relief too because he thought he had OCD for years. I think sometimes there is a little OCD in AS People. the trick for us iwth out daughter is if she is really having a melt down or trying to get away with

something.CAthy

Sounds like normal kid behavior, exacerbated by AS, so it might make solving the problem more difficult. I could see my 8 year old NT daughter doing this but my 13 year old son with Aspergers would Never do anything like this.Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: "breann1789" <breann21aim (DOT) com>

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:58:18 -0000< >Subject: ( ) Question about behaviour

My daughter who is 10 and has high functioning AS, for the last eight years she has continued to go in our two bathrooms and use all the lotion, cologne, soap and so on. She either squeezes it down the sink, into the bathtub, down the shower drain and so on. She also mixes the liquids together and makes a mess. She has been told since she started doing this at two that she is not to do that and at times she has not been allowed in my mother-in-law' s bathroom due to this continued behaviour. The last two months she has been caught doing this she now says sorry and that she knows not to do it but her brain tells her to do it and she can't not do it.

She also says that when she takes things that she shouldn't that she knows not to do it but her brain makes her do it anyways and she cna't stop it.

My question is, is this normal behaviour for a child with AS? I am new to AS but not to my daughter's behaviour. I know she doesn't comprehend a lot of things but when asked she can now tell you right from wrong. Does a child with AS does their brain "force" them to do things that they know not to do?

Thank you,

~BreAnn

Mom to and Josh

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.†- Steve Jobs

[Guest guest]

I am NT by the way and I totally did the same thing for years! I was about 9 or 10 and every time I would go to this one store with my mom I would ask for the key to go to the back employee bathroom and then I would open the cleaner closet and dump out the cleaning products and paper towel the room! i don't know why! so embarassing! I stopped because they stopped giving me the key one time. they never did bust me though. They must have understood. I also played a little with fire after that so watch out for that! I would burn toilet paper and then flush it real quick just to watch it burn not to be destructive.From: MacAllister <smacalli@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Question about behaviour Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 12:02 PM

My son w/ Aspergers is better about not doing something he knows he's not supposed to do than my NT daughter. It's a matter of personalities. My daughter has to learn the hard way more times than I'd like her to. My son is very different in that regard (in a good way!) I was trying to say that it sounds like a normal kid thing to do, but figuring out how to get her to stop might be more difficult because of the AS.

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: BreAnn <breann21aim (DOT) com> Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 10:29:57 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Question about behaviour

So then it is normal behaviour for a child BUT her still doing it after knowing not to do it is most likely from the AS? That sounds right to me.I do not have another child other than my step-son who was 15 when I moved here. He was 11 when I met him but his dad and I had a long distance relationship so I did not see him for months at a time.When we meet with the Autism Consultant I will be asking her on how to go about changing this behaviour.~BreAnnMom to and Josh>> Sounds like normal kid behavior, exacerbated by AS, so it might make solving the problem more difficult. I could see my 8 year old NT daughter doing this but my 13 year old son with Aspergers would Never do anything like

this.>

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T> > ( ) Question about behaviour> > My daughter who is 10 and has high functioning AS, for the last eight years she has continued to go in our two bathrooms and use all the lotion, cologne, soap and so on. She either squeezes it down the sink, into the bathtub, down the shower drain and so on. She also mixes the liquids together and makes a mess. She has been told since she started doing this at two that she is not to do that and at times she has not been allowed in my mother-in-law' s bathroom due to this continued behaviour. The last two

months she has

been caught doing this she now says sorry and that she knows not to do it but her brain tells her to do it and she can't not do it.> > She also says that when she takes things that she shouldn't that she knows not to do it but her brain makes her do it anyways and she cna't stop it.> > My question is, is this normal behaviour for a child with AS? I am new to AS but not to my daughter's behaviour. I know she doesn't comprehend a lot of things but when asked she can now tell you right from wrong. Does a child with AS does their brain "force" them to do things that they know not to do?> > Thank you,> ~BreAnn> Mom to and Josh>

[Guest guest]

>

> My daughter who is 10 and has high functioning AS, for the last eight

years she has continued to go in our two bathrooms and use all the lotion,

cologne, soap and so on. She either squeezes it down the sink, into the

bathtub, down the shower drain and so on. She also mixes the liquids together

and makes a mess. She has been told since she started doing this at two that

she is not to do that and at times she has not been allowed in my

mother-in-law's bathroom due to this continued behaviour. The last two months

she has been caught doing this she now says sorry and that she knows not to do

it but her brain tells her to do it and she can't not do it.

>

> She also says that when she takes things that she shouldn't that she knows not

to do it but her brain makes her do it anyways and she cna't stop it.

>

> My question is, is this normal behaviour for a child with AS? I am new to AS

but not to my daughter's behaviour. I know she doesn't comprehend a lot of

things but when asked she can now tell you right from wrong. Does a child with

AS does their brain " force " them to do things that they know not to do?

>

> Thank you,

> ~BreAnn

> Mom to and Josh

>

My dh and I were just talking to our dd about this last night. She can mimic

back to us that you only use this much shampoo and you don't squish the bar of

soap or scrap a layer off, but she seems to " have to do it " no matter what. For

a while now I have been putting in travel size shampoo bottle in the shower and

her name is on it,,even though our shampoo is sauve and cheap, it helps. What I

did last night was remove all the other shampoo and everyone that uses that

shower now has to take their own in with them.

Sometimes I also find reverse physcology works with her.

[Guest guest]

I have learned that when we go to other people's homes I do warn them that she

does this. Even if she goes on a play date I tell the parent that she does

this. I do try to not allow her to be in a place where this can happen.

I now keep travel size shampoo and condish of my stuff in the shower and high

up. Her expensive shampoo is kept in the cabinet high up. I finally found a

shampoo that works. The cheap stuff doesn't on her. But I still have to wash

her hair for her since she has a lot of curly dry hair and she hasn't grasped

how to do it herself. I have her start with the shampooing and then I make sure

I get it all, she rinses and repeat. It works well. The rest of the routine

takes awhile so her hair is comable the next two mornings. I have now noticed

that she flaps her arms when she screams out when I'm combing her hair, even if

it isn't pulling. I have never picked up on that before since I am intent on

combing as gently as possible.

What is NT? I have not run across this but I usually read AS specific books and

articles. There is so much out there as well that it becomes confusing.

~BreAnn

mom to and Josh

>

> I am NT by the way and I totally did the same thing for years!  I was about 9

or 10 and every time I would go to this one store with my mom I would ask for

the key to go to the back employee bathroom and then I would open the cleaner

closet and dump out the cleaning products and paper towel the room!  i don't

know why!  so embarassing!  I stopped because they stopped giving me the key

one time.  they never did bust me though.  They must have understood.  I also

played a little with fire after that so watch out for that!  I would burn

toilet paper and then flush it real quick just to watch it burn not to be

destructive.

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter has had some issues with fire... On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:09 PM, BreAnn wrote:

I have learned that when we go to other people's homes I do warn them that she does this. Even if she goes on a play date I tell the parent that she does this. I do try to not allow her to be in a place where this can happen.

I now keep travel size shampoo and condish of my stuff in the shower and high up. Her expensive shampoo is kept in the cabinet high up. I finally found a shampoo that works. The cheap stuff doesn't on her. But I still have to wash her hair for her since she has a lot of curly dry hair and she hasn't grasped how to do it herself. I have her start with the shampooing and then I make sure I get it all, she rinses and repeat. It works well. The rest of the routine takes awhile so her hair is comable the next two mornings. I have now noticed that she flaps her arms when she screams out when I'm combing her hair, even if it isn't pulling. I have never picked up on that before since I am intent on combing as gently as possible.

What is NT? I have not run across this but I usually read AS specific books and articles. There is so much out there as well that it becomes confusing.

~BreAnn

mom to and Josh

>

> I am NT by the way and I totally did the same thing for years! I was about 9 or 10 and every time I would go to this one store with my mom I would ask for the key to go to the back employee bathroom and then I would open the cleaner closet and dump out the cleaning products and paper towel the room! i don't know why! so embarassing! I stopped because they stopped giving me the key one time. they never did bust me though. They must have understood. I also played a little with fire after that so watch out for that! I would burn toilet paper and then flush it real quick just to watch it burn not to be destructive.

>

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs

[Guest guest]

NT is neurologically typical. Meaning no aspergers or other diagnosis. Also I have very curly dry hair too and I just discovered that once a week I take a almost rotten avacado and one tablespoon of olive oil and pureed together and it makes a green paste. If your daughter would allow this special conditioning treatment once a week ti might really help her hair. It make my hair much more soft. You want to do it before you shampoo so you can shampoo it out because the oil is so thick water won't rinse it all out.From: BreAnn <breann21@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Question about behaviourTo:

Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 5:09 PM

I have learned that when we go to other people's homes I do warn them that she does this. Even if she goes on a play date I tell the parent that she does this. I do try to not allow her to be in a place where this can happen.

I now keep travel size shampoo and condish of my stuff in the shower and high up. Her expensive shampoo is kept in the cabinet high up. I finally found a shampoo that works. The cheap stuff doesn't on her. But I still have to wash her hair for her since she has a lot of curly dry hair and she hasn't grasped how to do it herself. I have her start with the shampooing and then I make sure I get it all, she rinses and repeat. It works well. The rest of the routine takes awhile so her hair is comable the next two mornings. I have now noticed that she flaps her arms when she screams out when I'm combing her hair, even if it isn't pulling. I have never picked up on that before since I am intent on combing as gently as possible.

What is NT? I have not run across this but I usually read AS specific books and articles. There is so much out there as well that it becomes confusing.

~BreAnn

mom to and Josh

>

> I am NT by the way and I totally did the same thing for years! I was about 9 or 10 and every time I would go to this one store with my mom I would ask for the key to go to the back employee bathroom and then I would open the cleaner closet and dump out the cleaning products and paper towel the room! i don't know why! so embarassing! I stopped because they stopped giving me the key one time. they never did bust me though. They must have understood. I also played a little with fire after that so watch out for that! I would burn toilet paper and then flush it real quick just to watch it burn not to be destructive.

>