Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 This is a different way to look at the problem. In Behavior Analysis they would say the desired behavior is to transiton faster, and the reason he doesn't is a) he loses track of time easily distracted c) perserverates at every chance. The re-inforcer for moving quicker would be points to be used for special interests. He would be praised for any transiton that has improved. The focus is on the desired behavior, moving faster. At home you can help reduce the issues but a) having timers, clocks etc visable or going off remove distractions from at home and as long as it takes keep him on track c) remind him when he gets off track to keep moving to get points. The school or parents have to do the record keeping on how he is reaching goals, and the points earned. I just have not heard behavior training working on insight first, almost always they are focused on practicing behaviors wanted and then cognition follows. Cognitive approaches (awareness and insight first) work with typical kids and adults not one with any kind of attentional deficits or perservating traits. Pam > > We're trying to get my son to be more aware of his behaviors so that he can correct himself. The school is trying to get him to fill out a simple self monitoring sheet (circle Yes or No) to discuss when he meets with the counselor. So far he is very resistant to it. At home we're also working on getting him to be more aware of his behavior. Any advice on what to do to help him become better at self monitoring? > > I think most of the time he is aware of his behavior but doesn't care because he's doing what he wants. The school is trying to work on eliminating some of those behaviors. Most behavior issues at school are during transition times. > > Caroline > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 check into cooperative problem solving ( ) Re: Importance of self monitoringThis is a different way to look at the problem. In BehaviorAnalysis they would say the desired behavior is to transitonfaster, and the reason he doesn't is a) he loses track of timeb) easily distracted c) perserverates at every chance.The re-inforcer for moving quicker would be points to be used for special interests. He would be praised for any transiton that has improved. The focus is on the desiredbehavior, moving faster. At home you can help reduce the issues but a) having timers,clocks etc visable or going off remove distractions fromat home and as long as it takes keep him on track c) remindhim when he gets off track to keep moving to get points.The school or parents have to do the record keeping on how he is reaching goals, and the points earned. I just have not heard behavior training working on insightfirst, almost always they are focused on practicing behaviors wanted and then cognition follows. Cognitive approaches (awareness and insight first) work with typical kids and adults not one with any kind of attentional deficits or perservating traits. Pam >> We're trying to get my son to be more aware of his behaviors so that he can correct himself. The school is trying to get him to fill out a simple self monitoring sheet (circle Yes or No) to discuss when he meets with the counselor. So far he is very resistant to it. At home we're also working on getting him to be more aware of his behavior. Any advice on what to do to help him become better at self monitoring?> > I think most of the time he is aware of his behavior but doesn't care because he's doing what he wants. The school is trying to work on eliminating some of those behaviors. Most behavior issues at school are during transition times.> > Caroline>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 This self monitoring exercise is result of the FBA. My son doesn't really respond to rewards so they are trying to get him to be more aware of his actions. The transition issues are for the main part only at school. At home we are trying to get him become aware of his tone of voice, when he starts pacing, his general attitude when talking with others. We're not using any sheet just pointing out when he is not acting appropriately. Caroline > > > > We're trying to get my son to be more aware of his behaviors so that he can correct himself. The school is trying to get him to fill out a simple self monitoring sheet (circle Yes or No) to discuss when he meets with the counselor. So far he is very resistant to it. At home we're also working on getting him to be more aware of his behavior. Any advice on what to do to help him become better at self monitoring? > > > > I think most of the time he is aware of his behavior but doesn't care because he's doing what he wants. The school is trying to work on eliminating some of those behaviors. Most behavior issues at school are during transition times. > > > > Caroline > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 If it works great. I don't want to discourage anyone from trying things. If you point out only when he acting inappropriately and AS kids have a social deficit so a lot of what they do is inappropriate (talking to long on interests etc), that is a lot of negative feedback. The basis of behavior therapy is that you can't change a negative with negative feedback. I didn't invent this stuff. I am just sharing what I know from all the training courses in ABA I have taken. If you feel comfortable with this approach and your son is OK getting feedback of this type then great! Pam > > > > > > We're trying to get my son to be more aware of his behaviors so that he can correct himself. The school is trying to get him to fill out a simple self monitoring sheet (circle Yes or No) to discuss when he meets with the counselor. So far he is very resistant to it. At home we're also working on getting him to be more aware of his behavior. Any advice on what to do to help him become better at self monitoring? > > > > > > I think most of the time he is aware of his behavior but doesn't care because he's doing what he wants. The school is trying to work on eliminating some of those behaviors. Most behavior issues at school are during transition times. > > > > > > Caroline > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 The sheet that the school is using only asks if he has done the right behaviors - walking in the hallways, quiet in the hallways, etc. So I do think it does focus on the positive. > > > > > > > > We're trying to get my son to be more aware of his behaviors so that he can correct himself. The school is trying to get him to fill out a simple self monitoring sheet (circle Yes or No) to discuss when he meets with the counselor. So far he is very resistant to it. At home we're also working on getting him to be more aware of his behavior. Any advice on what to do to help him become better at self monitoring? > > > > > > > > I think most of the time he is aware of his behavior but doesn't care because he's doing what he wants. The school is trying to work on eliminating some of those behaviors. Most behavior issues at school are during transition times. > > > > > > > > Caroline > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 It would depend on what the school is monitoring and if that is a logical thing/way to monitor that particular problem behavior. And it depends on if filling out the chart is something he could do discretely. I remember one time, they had a boy with AS in high school have to carry a red notebook around to every teacher so that the teacher could write down all the things he did wrong that day in class. Needless to say, he didn't do it! And how depressing and obvious. Kids this age do not want to stand out as being different. Then, they don't want to be reminded of everything they are doing wrong. I wouldn't either. I would not cooperate with a system like that. And if he doesn't personally care about fixing the behavior, you are not going to get a lot of cooperation without some reward to encourage him. Roxanna “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr. ( ) Importance of self monitoring We're trying to get my son to be more aware of his behaviors so that he can correct himself. The school is trying to get him to fill out a simple self monitoring sheet (circle Yes or No) to discuss when he meets with the counselor. So far he is very resistant to it. At home we're also working on getting him to be more aware of his behavior. Any advice on what to do to help him become better at self monitoring? I think most of the time he is aware of his behavior but doesn't care because he's doing what he wants. The school is trying to work on eliminating some of those behaviors. Most behavior issues at school are during transition times. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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