Now What?

[Guest guest]

That makes sense. I just can't imagine the doc making an error like that. I do

have some good news though. Last night I faxed my results to my old endo,

explained the situation and had him give me a call this morning. He said that

he sort of understood what the new endo was saying but couldn't understand why

he had tested T when you get a more accurate picture from free T. His opinion

was that I had low T and that the other doctor was off somewhere. I then asked

him if he would now agree to injections and he said yes. I picked up the scrip

today and went to the GP to make sure I do it right. I am happy and looking

forward to the future. For Phil, my T was 226 (range 241-827). Someone had

asked about prolactin. My highest level was 33. They like to see a reading of

about 16. I was put on Bromocriptine which is a generic for Parlodel. My 1st

endo prescribed it after they ruled out a tumor in the pituitary. I had my E2

checked a while ago, the doctor said it was in range. I can't find the lab

report. Nick, the irony is that the 2nd endo is doctor in a diabetes clinic.

Thanks for the insight once again.

Ned

Re: Now what?

Your doctor is mistakenly using the " Free Androgen Index " and

thinking that it proves that your T is not actually low. The free

androgen index can be helpfull only if your sex hormone binding

globulin are very high, it can show that SHBG is a problem for you

if the F.A.I. comes back high. However, as in your case, where SHBG

is low, the F.A.I. is a useless measurement. The endo has no idea

what he is talking about. Your T level is way too low and you are

hypogonadal. Your low T is the cause for your low libido and no

morning errections. Unaddressed, your low t will make your life a

lot less enjoyable than it can be, and will also increase your risk

for a variety of diseases and health problems.

You need to find a doctor who treats low t and treats it well.

Again, if I understand your comments correctly, and as far as male

hormones are concerned, the endo is an idiot. Find a doctor in your

area who is experienced with hormone therapy. Your endo is right

about one thing, the doctor does not have to be a " specialist "

(because there is no official title for a male hormone specialist),

as long as they treat hypogonadism and are comfortable doing so.

Armyguy

> I just recieved my results from the new endo. I test at 226 for

T.

> But he says I really have a level of 600 to 700. The problem is,

> supposedly, is a protein. The test results say for SHBG I am a

9.

> Then it says , corrected testosterone 703- completely normal. I

> have no clue what this means. I called the endo and he said that

it

> was not an endocrine problem and go see my GP. I have no libido

and

> not even morning erections. I have no idea where to go next.

> Anyone have a clue?

[Guest guest]

What dose of shot will you be taking?

In a message dated 7/27/2004 6:24:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

nmathis@... writes:

That makes sense. I just can't imagine the doc making an error like that. I

do have some good news though. Last night I faxed my results to my old endo,

explained the situation and had him give me a call this morning. He said

that he sort of understood what the new endo was saying but couldn't understand

why he had tested T when you get a more accurate picture from free T. His

opinion was that I had low T and that the other doctor was off somewhere. I

then

asked him if he would now agree to injections and he said yes. I picked up the

scrip today and went to the GP to make sure I do it right. I am happy and

looking forward to the future. For Phil, my T was 226 (range 241-827).

Someone had asked about prolactin. My highest level was 33. They like to see a

reading of about 16. I was put on Bromocriptine which is a generic for

Parlodel.

My 1st endo prescribed it after they ruled out a tumor in the pituitary. I

had my E2 checked a while ago, the doctor said it was in range. I can't find

the lab report. Nick, the irony is that the 2nd endo is doctor in a diabetes

clinic. Thanks for the insight once again.

Ned

[Guest guest]

I had problems with the Bromo too. I have never had

panic attacks till I started the Bromo. I felt like I

was going nutz. I tried Permax for a time and had to

stop because I gained over 20 lbs in less than 2

months. I think this was because I would have

heartburn and was eating to calm my stomach. I am now

on Dostinex and enjow only having to take it twice a

week. Cost are about the same. I believe Bromocriptine

is a scary drug and if these side effects occur, then

stopped.

Huck

--- Nick O'Hara <nick@...> wrote:

> I read some unpleasant stuff about Bromocriptine

> side-effects recently..

>

> I'll try and dig the link out when I get home in

> about 10 hours.

>

> At least now you can let your endo know where the

> other one went wrong

> Ned

>

> Nick

>

>

>

> > Re: Re: Now what?

> >

> >

> > Good Ned I hope you start feeling better fast.

> >

> > Phil

> >

> > Ned Mathis <nmathis@...> wrote:

> > That makes sense. I just can't imagine the doc

> making an

> > error like that. I do have some good news though.

> Last

> > night I faxed my results to my old endo, explained

> the

> > situation and had him give me a call this morning.

> He said

> > that he sort of understood what the new endo was

> saying but

> > couldn't understand why he had tested T when you

> get a more

> > accurate picture from free T. His opinion was

> that I had low

> > T and that the other doctor was off somewhere. I

> then asked

> > him if he would now agree to injections and he

> said yes. I

> > picked up the scrip today and went to the GP to

> make sure I

> > do it right. I am happy and looking forward to

> the future.

> > For Phil, my T was 226 (range 241-827). Someone

> had asked

> > about prolactin. My highest level was 33. They

> like to see

> > a reading of about 16. I was put on Bromocriptine

> which is a

> > generic for Parlodel. My 1st endo prescribed it

> after they

> > ruled out a tumor in the pituitary. I had my E2

> checked a

> > while ago, the doctor said it was i

> > n range.

> > I can't find the lab report. Nick, the irony is

> that the

> > 2nd endo is doctor in a diabetes clinic. Thanks

> for the

> > insight once again.

> >

> > Ned

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Now what?

> >

> >

> > Your doctor is mistakenly using the " Free

> Androgen Index " and

> > thinking that it proves that your T is not

> actually low. The free

> > androgen index can be helpfull only if your sex

> hormone binding

> > globulin are very high, it can show that SHBG is

> a problem for you

> > if the F.A.I. comes back high. However, as in

> your case, where SHBG

> > is low, the F.A.I. is a useless measurement. The

> endo has no idea

> > what he is talking about. Your T level is way

> too low and you are

> > hypogonadal. Your low T is the cause for your

> low libido and no

> > morning errections. Unaddressed, your low t will

> make your life a

> > lot less enjoyable than it can be, and will also

> increase your risk

> > for a variety of diseases and health problems.

> >

> > You need to find a doctor who treats low t and

> treats it well.

> > Again, if I understand your comments correctly,

> and as far as male

> > hormones are concerned, the endo is an idiot.

> Find a doctor in your

> > area who is experienced with hormone therapy.

> Your endo is right

> > about one thing, the doctor does not have to be

> a " specialist "

> > (because there is no official title for a male

> hormone specialist),

> > as long as they treat hypogonadism and are

> comfortable doing so.

> >

> > Armyguy

> >

> >

> > > I just recieved my results from the new endo.

> I test at 226 for

> > T.

> > > But he says I really have a level of 600 to

> 700. The problem is,

> > > supposedly, is a protein. The test results

> say for SHBG I am a

> > 9.

> > > Then it says , corrected testosterone 703-

> completely normal. I

> > > have no clue what this means. I called the

> endo and he said that

> > it

> > > was not an endocrine problem and go see my GP.

> I have no libido

> > and

> > > not even morning erections. I have no idea

> where to go next.

> > > Anyone have a clue?

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

My panic attacks have been so bad lately the my Dr. gave me a sample of .25 mg

Klonopin Wafers to try in the morning instead of taking more Xanax. He said if

after going back on Arimidex if a week they don't get better try the Klonopin.

I have used this before and told he but he claims this is new. For anyone that

has this problem I recommend that they do this link 2x's a day to rest the

body's internal organs.

Phil

http://www.ucop.edu/humres/eap/relaxationrespone.html

<huckfor1@...> wrote:

I had problems with the Bromo too. I have never had

panic attacks till I started the Bromo. I felt like I

was going nutz. I tried Permax for a time and had to

stop because I gained over 20 lbs in less than 2

months. I think this was because I would have

heartburn and was eating to calm my stomach. I am now

on Dostinex and enjow only having to take it twice a

week. Cost are about the same. I believe Bromocriptine

is a scary drug and if these side effects occur, then

stopped.

Huck

--- Nick O'Hara <nick@...> wrote:

> I read some unpleasant stuff about Bromocriptine

> side-effects recently..

>

> I'll try and dig the link out when I get home in

> about 10 hours.

>

> At least now you can let your endo know where the

> other one went wrong

> Ned

>

> Nick

>

>

>

> > Re: Re: Now what?

> >

> >

> > Good Ned I hope you start feeling better fast.

> >

> > Phil

> >

> > Ned Mathis <nmathis@...> wrote:

> > That makes sense. I just can't imagine the doc

> making an

> > error like that. I do have some good news though.

> Last

> > night I faxed my results to my old endo, explained

> the

> > situation and had him give me a call this morning.

> He said

> > that he sort of understood what the new endo was

> saying but

> > couldn't understand why he had tested T when you

> get a more

> > accurate picture from free T. His opinion was

> that I had low

> > T and that the other doctor was off somewhere. I

> then asked

> > him if he would now agree to injections and he

> said yes. I

> > picked up the scrip today and went to the GP to

> make sure I

> > do it right. I am happy and looking forward to

> the future.

> > For Phil, my T was 226 (range 241-827). Someone

> had asked

> > about prolactin. My highest level was 33. They

> like to see

> > a reading of about 16. I was put on Bromocriptine

> which is a

> > generic for Parlodel. My 1st endo prescribed it

> after they

> > ruled out a tumor in the pituitary. I had my E2

> checked a

> > while ago, the doctor said it was i

> > n range.

> > I can't find the lab report. Nick, the irony is

> that the

> > 2nd endo is doctor in a diabetes clinic. Thanks

> for the

> > insight once again.

> >

> > Ned

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Now what?

> >

> >

> > Your doctor is mistakenly using the " Free

> Androgen Index " and

> > thinking that it proves that your T is not

> actually low. The free

> > androgen index can be helpfull only if your sex

> hormone binding

> > globulin are very high, it can show that SHBG is

> a problem for you

> > if the F.A.I. comes back high. However, as in

> your case, where SHBG

> > is low, the F.A.I. is a useless measurement. The

> endo has no idea

> > what he is talking about. Your T level is way

> too low and you are

> > hypogonadal. Your low T is the cause for your

> low libido and no

> > morning errections. Unaddressed, your low t will

> make your life a

> > lot less enjoyable than it can be, and will also

> increase your risk

> > for a variety of diseases and health problems.

> >

> > You need to find a doctor who treats low t and

> treats it well.

> > Again, if I understand your comments correctly,

> and as far as male

> > hormones are concerned, the endo is an idiot.

> Find a doctor in your

> > area who is experienced with hormone therapy.

> Your endo is right

> > about one thing, the doctor does not have to be

> a " specialist "

> > (because there is no official title for a male

> hormone specialist),

> > as long as they treat hypogonadism and are

> comfortable doing so.

> >

> > Armyguy

> >

> >

> > > I just recieved my results from the new endo.

> I test at 226 for

> > T.

> > > But he says I really have a level of 600 to

> 700. The problem is,

> > > supposedly, is a protein. The test results

> say for SHBG I am a

> > 9.

> > > Then it says , corrected testosterone 703-

> completely normal. I

> > > have no clue what this means. I called the

> endo and he said that

> > it

> > > was not an endocrine problem and go see my GP.

> I have no libido

> > and

> > > not even morning erections. I have no idea

> where to go next.

> > > Anyone have a clue?

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I will be taking 200 ml every other week. I have no clue as to when I will feel

a difference or finally have a boner. It has been 24 hours.

Re: Re: Now what?

What dose of shot will you be taking?

In a message dated 7/27/2004 6:24:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

nmathis@... writes:

That makes sense. I just can't imagine the doc making an error like that. I

do have some good news though. Last night I faxed my results to my old endo,

explained the situation and had him give me a call this morning. He said

that he sort of understood what the new endo was saying but couldn't

understand

why he had tested T when you get a more accurate picture from free T. His

opinion was that I had low T and that the other doctor was off somewhere. I

then

asked him if he would now agree to injections and he said yes. I picked up the

scrip today and went to the GP to make sure I do it right. I am happy and

looking forward to the future. For Phil, my T was 226 (range 241-827).

Someone had asked about prolactin. My highest level was 33. They like to see

a

reading of about 16. I was put on Bromocriptine which is a generic for

Parlodel.

My 1st endo prescribed it after they ruled out a tumor in the pituitary. I

had my E2 checked a while ago, the doctor said it was in range. I can't find

the lab report. Nick, the irony is that the 2nd endo is doctor in a diabetes

clinic. Thanks for the insight once again.

Ned

[Guest guest]

Dr. Bill Neal's group in Shelton and Olympia might be a good choice

for you. http://www.pacsurgical.com/

Dr Cheblis is excellent, and he also has a whole band education and

followup program. Sandy R

>

> Hi there,

> Now that TRA no longer does fills, where do we go? Has anyone had

> experience with Dr. Chebli in Ballard? Thank you!

> Lenee

>

[Guest guest]

Praise the Lord! He got his diet right and amazing how quick the liver will

mend. The Dr probably counted on him staying on the old routine. Possible it

was not cirrhosis, but now he knows what is working, good diet and pure water,

keep him on it. He may be a bit low on iron and B-12. Brown rice should help.

darblly <darblly@...> wrote: <parts snipped to shorten> followed all

your advise and he has only ate

natural grains, fruits and veg, and filter water along with liver

detox. Last Friday test results came back perfect;. Could this have been a

mistake all along? Or did all we do fix it that quick?

---------------------------------

Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.

[Guest guest]

<parts snipped to shorten>

followed all your advise and he has only ate

> natural grains, fruits and veg, and filter water along with liver

> detox. Last Friday test results came back perfect;. Could this

have been a mistake all along? Or did all we do fix it that quick?

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously

low rates.

>

>

[Guest guest]

He secretly smokes the natural herb cannibus, of course..... the hypocrite

* * * *

When I heard Barrett on the radio he sounded so calm and

laid back. I could never understand how this man could sound that

way. Any ideas how he does it?

Corey

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

By this time you should be eating pretty normally. You probably need a dialation. I'm sorry, I don't remember which surgeon you went to. See your surgeon and see what he/she says. Then get a second opinion. It isn't a monogamous situation, you can see other surgeons and get their advice. This is fairly common so don't panic, but also don't settle for this either. There is still a great need for a highly skilled doctor to do the dialation.

Sandy>> Hi everyone. I had my open myotomy almost 9 weeks ago and for the last > 3 or so I have been regurgitating again. Since the op, I've been > restricted in what I could eat obviously (no meat, no bread, no pasta, > rice etc). So now when I try something more substantial, it just sits > there and then comes up again. I am living on coffee (for which I am > very grateful, as there was a time when even it wouldn't go down!), > yogurts or similar, biscuits - junk in general. Not good! Anyway, for > the last few weeks I have had the return of the dreaded mucous/frothy > stuff. This had actually gone away since about the end of January when > I was at my lowest, therefore allowing me to eat and drink a bit more > in the weeks that preceeded my op. Is this just how it's gonna be, or > what happens next? I am seeing my surgeon next week for the first time > since I had my stitches out (the hospital 'lost me in their system', I > had to chase them for my follow-up appointment which should've been > done weeks ago!!). Was the myotomy unsuccessful or is it the > aperistalsis that is causing these problems? The surgeon told me before > the op that things would greatly improve, but would never be normal. I > can accept that, but is this it???> Anyone got any words of wisdom for me please. Thanks.> Cookie>

[Guest guest]

Cookie wrote:

> ...Was the myotomy unsuccessful or is it the

> aperistalsis that is causing these problems? ...

It could be a number of things, including a new stricture. A likely

suspect is myotomy failure, but that may just need a dilatation to fix it.

notan

[Guest guest]

Barb,

If you try a round of chelation now, or whenever the last time was that you

tried it, what happens? what doses did you use? What is his weight? Were

there side effects either on or off round? Has he had a recent hair test? Are

there any signs on the hair test like adrenal fatigue? Does he have adrenal

fatigue or hypothyroid symptoms? Have you done a saliva hormone panel?

What was the year of OSR like?

100 rounds of DMSA/ALA doesn't seem like enough to me. Of course it depends

totally on the person, but with the porphyrins test still showing mercury, that

tells me that chelation isn't finished. And, from what I understand, there is

no test for brain mercury except maybe the reaction the person gets from ALA

chelation. Brain healing is always important, of course, but it won't be long

lasting until as much metals are removed as possible.

J

>

> Hey Andy, I'm collecting opinions here, some from our current doc (one that

you recommended to us) and from others.

>

> Our son, Craig is now 29 and has been working on various forms of detox since

the fall of 2000.

>

> We've done over 100 cycles of DMSA/ALA, some Yasko, a little NCD, a year of

OSR, and the methyl B-12 shots. Oh, he's also done 60 cycles of HBOT. All of

these have helped in various ways but we are not where we want to be yet. Craig

still needs to go farther with fine/gross motor work, self-care, initiative,

vision (done lots of vision therapy), speech, losing the OCD behaviors.

>

> We've also added in some brain healing stuff like Brain Vibrance.

>

> I'm wondering if 25 to 50 more cycles of DMSA/ALA will help him???? How do we

know when we're done, when the mercury is gone? We've done the porphyrins and

they've shown the drop from moderate to mild poisoning, but the last one was

elevated. His glutathione levels were normal on the test we did. We have done

lots of pee and poop tests through the years but I know they're just the luck of

the catch.

>

> I'd like to know if it's time to switch from chelating to brain healing/ HBOT/

maybe cognitive rehab?

>

> Please don't come back with a sharp response about doctors/whatever. You're

talking to tired veterans here who just want the best for their adult son . . .

>

> Barb

>

>

[Guest guest]

Of course it depends totally on the person, but with the porphyrins test still

showing mercury, that tells me that chelation isn't finished. And, from what I

understand, there is no test for brain mercury except maybe the reaction the

person gets from ALA chelation.

>

> J

>

If I understand correctly the test for brain mercury is the DD hair test.

If there is no sign of deranged mineral transport AND no mercury reading in the

sample then it is likely they are mercury free. Someone correct me if I am

wrong but aren't we supposed to be chelating ideally until we get a clean hair

test with low or no metal reading and no counting rules?

Tressie

[Guest guest]

Don't use testing to determine when to be finished with chelation. Andy has said

this repeatedly.

Testing urine or any other bodily fluid is a small snapshot of what is going on

at that moment in time.

You are finished with chelation when the symptoms of mercury poisoning have

cleared (Autism, Asperger's, ADHD, OCD, etc...).

Then go for 2-3 more months.

TJ

________________________________

From: umtarek690 <ttaylor15@...>

Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:28:23 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Now what?

 

Of course it depends totally on the person, but with the porphyrins test still

showing mercury, that tells me that chelation isn't finished. And, from what I

understand, there is no test for brain mercury except maybe the reaction the

person gets from ALA chelation.

>

> J

>

If I understand correctly the test for brain mercury is the DD hair test.

If there is no sign of deranged mineral transport AND no mercury reading in the

sample then it is likely they are mercury free. Someone correct me if I am wrong

but aren't we supposed to be chelating ideally until we get a clean hair test

with low or no metal reading and no counting rules?

Tressie

[Guest guest]

Ok, I was under the impression that if you stopped when symptoms went away it

was still to early and that they could return. I wasn't aware that only 2-3

months more would be enough.

Tressie

>

> Of course it depends totally on the person, but with the porphyrins test still

showing mercury, that tells me that chelation isn't finished. And, from what I

understand, there is no test for brain mercury except maybe the reaction the

person gets from ALA chelation.

> >

> > J

> >

>

> If I understand correctly the test for brain mercury is the DD hair test.

>

> If there is no sign of deranged mineral transport AND no mercury reading in

the sample then it is likely they are mercury free. Someone correct me if I am

wrong but aren't we supposed to be chelating ideally until we get a clean hair

test with low or no metal reading and no counting rules?

>

> Tressie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I *think* you can still get Naturethroid and maybe Westhyroid, too.

If not, check out www.drlowe.com They sell an OTC dessicated product called Hypo

Support Formula that they are using on their patients in place of rx thyroid.

HTH,

Kathleen

>

> I am going to get an appointment with my doctor and get a prescription

> for a dessicated thyroid product but after that what do I do?

>

> Pamela

>

[Guest guest]

The doc suggested we keep our son off meds for the next month and see how things

go. He was has major side effects with everything we have tried including:

Intuniv, Concerta, Strattera, Clonidine, Abilify, haloperidol, & 3isperdol. He

is very sensitive to meds and if there is a side effect, he gets it!! I have

been going crazy since we switched from Risperdol to haloperidol. That is when

all the old behaviors started returning. The biggest issue being the

irratibility and negative attitude. I had been seeing over the last 2 weeks,

but his teacher confirmed in an e-mail this week saying he just seems so

negative! He was staying out of trouble almost everyday until we switched meds.

Now I am getting daily emails from the teacher. He is not finishing work and

bot getting along with others. She finally sent him to the special ed teacher

yesterday! What other options do I have? The meds were so helping his attitude

and he seemed much happier. We were all much happier....

[Guest guest]

I can

completely relate. My daughter was originally diagnosed with extreme ADHD and

we tried ALL of those meds and THEN some! Nothing worked, just caused more side

effects.

I gave up

on the whole med thing for a while, but soon realized she needed something, for

her own good. Finally went to yet another psychologist who suggested Prozac. I responded

with an adamant “NO”. However, months went by and after being more

and more frustrated, we finally gave it a hot. She is 12 yrs old and takes 10mg

daily and I can tell you it has been a life saver! It calms her anxieties just

enough to where she can function with out the meltdowns or the need to

overreact and have her violent fits. She handles school more and the “coming

down” from the meds in the evening is very mild. Nothing like with the

Concerta or other meds.

All I can

say is hang in there, and get several opinions. Sometimes we have to do what’s

best for our kids and throw out what society says.

Good

luck-

Marina

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of cmt263

Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010

12:04 PM

To:

Subject: ( ) Now

What?

The doc suggested we keep our son off meds for the

next month and see how things go. He was has major side effects with everything

we have tried including: Intuniv, Concerta, Strattera, Clonidine, Abilify,

haloperidol, & 3isperdol. He is very sensitive to meds and if there is a

side effect, he gets it!! I have been going crazy since we switched from

Risperdol to haloperidol. That is when all the old behaviors started returning.

The biggest issue being the irratibility and negative attitude. I had been

seeing over the last 2 weeks, but his teacher confirmed in an e-mail this week

saying he just seems so negative! He was staying out of trouble almost everyday

until we switched meds. Now I am getting daily emails from the teacher. He is not

finishing work and bot getting along with others. She finally sent him to the

special ed teacher yesterday! What other options do I have? The meds were so

helping his attitude and he seemed much happier. We were all much happier....

[Guest guest]

FYI be aware that most psych drugs have a withdrawl period whether

the doc wants to admit it or not so you might have to give things

some time. Sometimes it can take weeks to months (for drugs like

Risperidol) to clear the system. Rebound symptoms can happen.

Jen

5yo Aspie

On 12/11/2010 12:03 PM, cmt263 wrote:

The doc suggested we keep our son off meds for the next

month and see how things go. He was has major side effects

with everything we have tried including: Intuniv,

Concerta, Strattera, Clonidine, Abilify, haloperidol,

& 3isperdol. He is very sensitive to meds and if there

is a side effect, he gets it!! I have been going crazy

since we switched from Risperdol to haloperidol. That is

when all the old behaviors started returning. The biggest

issue being the irratibility and negative attitude. I had

been seeing over the last 2 weeks, but his teacher

confirmed in an e-mail this week saying he just seems so

negative! He was staying out of trouble almost everyday

until we switched meds. Now I am getting daily emails from

the teacher. He is not finishing work and bot getting

along with others. She finally sent him to the special ed

teacher yesterday! What other options do I have? The meds

were so helping his attitude and he seemed much happier.

We were all much happier....

[Guest guest]

I agree with Jen too. The drugs do have a withdrawal period. There may be more

than one drug still in his system, depending on how long it has been between

each drug that was switched to. My son is the same- if there is a reaction- he

will have it! He is also extremely effected by food dyes and artificial

flavors & sweeteners. Unfortunately- many drugs, RX and OTC have these in them.

Even his allergy meds made him go crazy. We have yet to try any of the other

types of meds- but one dr suggested Risperdal and another suggested Intuniv. I

am considering the Intuniv- but my hubby needs to be convinced.

Good luck to you and hang in there.

I wish I had something more helpful to say.

> >

> > The doc suggested we keep our son off meds for the next month and see

> > how things go. He was has major side effects with everything we have

> > tried including: Intuniv, Concerta, Strattera, Clonidine, Abilify,

> > haloperidol, & 3isperdol. He is very sensitive to meds and if there is

> > a side effect, he gets it!! I have been going crazy since we switched

> > from Risperdol to haloperidol. That is when all the old behaviors

> > started returning. The biggest issue being the irratibility and

> > negative attitude. I had been seeing over the last 2 weeks, but his

> > teacher confirmed in an e-mail this week saying he just seems so

> > negative! He was staying out of trouble almost everyday until we

> > switched meds. Now I am getting daily emails from the teacher. He is

> > not finishing work and bot getting along with others. She finally sent

> > him to the special ed teacher yesterday! What other options do I have?

> > The meds were so helping his attitude and he seemed much happier. We

> > were all much happier....

> >

> >

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