Introduction

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lea,

I hope you get better too. If I consider how sick I was in the beginning, I

am so much better, just tired of being ill.

I do work everyday at a middle school. That is enough to drive you nuts

without Lyme!!!!! have a good day,

Connie

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Welcome to our group. Most of your questions will be answered by one of us.

I feel lyme is a neverending story. Some of us do better, some hold our own

and some stay ill.

There is so much research to do. I stayed working thru all this. there are

days I wish I hadn't, but am glad I did. I hope you look at all aspects.

Don't forget if you get SSD you may still earn a small amount, I can't

remember what it is, but there are books out there to tell you. the

depression is unreal sometimes. When it happens, just stop and take a deep

breath and try to just put your mind at ease until you can work thru it.

Sometimes you just need to go " blank " for a while and give your lyme brain a

rest. That's what I do. Seems to help with the depression. I try not to

dwell on it when it is bad, I just think of sunshine and my beautiful

grandgirls and hope for a better day tomorrow.

hang in there. There are lots of wonderful people on this chat that will

encourage you as much as they can.

Hugs and blesses,

Connie S.

[Guest guest]

, sorry to hear about your ordeal. You would think that in this day and

age that Boston could provide you with the best healthcare, and yet they will

not admit that lyme is a problem. I don't know about the docs in your new

state, but hopefully you will be able to find one really lyme lit. Have you

had any gall bladder problems from the IV " s??? was just wondering because I am

thinking of starting Rocephrin. And to answer your last question according to

most lldrs they say that once you have had lyme in your system it's almost

impossible to cure it, but you supposedly can control it by staying on some

time of antibodics for the rest of your life. Good luck to you and welcome

Hugs

Amy

[Guest guest]

,

You are so right! Attitude is everything, I have been forgetting that.

Thanks for the reminder.

Hugs,

Marta

>From: Prinny328@...

>

>Hi ,

>Ever one is different. But, I think you must believe that you will get

>better. If not. I think the illness has won.

Never say NEVER or FOREVER!!!! Nothing is forever.

>It may seem like it but its not. My doctor who is very LLMD believes that

a

>postive attiude is key. I know it's hard sometimes , but we all have to

try!!

>Having hope is keeping me going. feel better and think

POSTIVE!!!!!!!!!!

>

>Feel better,

>christine

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Just read your introduction. So sorry you are sick. I know how hard it is

for

many of us in the east to find a good Lyme literate MD, so finding one in

Arizona

must be hard. I have the name of a support group in AR. It is printed out in

fact,

this month in the latest issue of " Tiny Tick Tales, the newsletter from the Lyme

Disease Assn. of NJ. " Here it is,

Conway Lyme Support Group

c/o Larry Kitchell

PO Box 0168

Conway, AZ 72033-0168

Also, you can call the LDFoundation in CT. For a fee of $5.00, they will

send

you a list of Lyme literate MDs in your area. They have a toll-free

#----1-800-886-LYME

Please let us all know how you are doing. You will find out that this is a

very caring and supportive group when you need it most. We understand. All MD

names you get may not be a " fit " for you but at least if they are recommended by

Lyme organizations, most " get it " . Keep asking questions and trust your

instincts.

Many of us can't work so we can help you with those issues and yes, people do

feel

better with a good MD and the right treatments. It can take a good while but it

does happen. Don't let anyone take away your hope. I have been very sick but

guess

what? Even I am seeing some improvement and expect more. My point is, lots of us

have severe cases but not everyone does so remember, YOU are YOU! We are here

for

you.

Your friend in NJ Helen

BailieBoy@... wrote:

> From: BailieBoy@...

>

> Hi,

> I have been reading the lyme-aid list for about a month now and thought I'd

> introduce myself. My name is and I live in sdale, Arizona-moved

> here from Boston 2 years ago. I was just diagnosed with chronic lyme and

> erlichiosis.

> I'm waiting for another babesiosis test to come back from the lab. My guess

> is I've been sick for at least 5 or more years but was misdiagnosed. I was on

> disability for 4 years for depression and managed to fight real hard to get

> back to work. Now, I've been back to work for two years and am being hit

> again with this whole Lyme thing!! It is very discouraging and upsetting to

> me. SSDI is now doing a medical review of me and I want to STAY working but I

> want to still be considered disabled by them in case I can't continue working.

> Their whole back to work process is very confusing.

> I was previously diagnosed with lupus, fibromyalgia, CFIDS and of course the

> major depression. This year I started having severe neurological symptoms

> which made me be more aggressive in finding some answers. It was very hard to

> find a doctor here in Arizona who knows ANYTHING about Lyme! Most think its

> cured in 4 weeks. My doc is not an expert but he's pretty open minded and

> reads what I give him. I am starting my fifth week of IV rocephin today and

> also take oral doccy (200 mg) for the erlichia. I feel better but not nearly

> NORMAL. Yet, I don't even know what normal is anymore!! I am fighting

> depression still but now I blame it all on lyme.

> Thanks for listening!! I have a few questions. Do people ever get TOTALLY

> better???? Am I crazy to consider taking a new job during all this?? If I'm

> going to gradually get better, how long can I wait to live my life!

>

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[Guest guest]

Amy, I was on Rocephin IVs in Nov and Dec. I convinced my doctor to call Dr. B

about the 5 days on, two days off schedule for the IVs. Dr, B was able to

convince my dr to put me on that schedule. I also took a supplement from the

health food store that was supposed to be good for the gallbladder. It was a

dandelion-golden seal herbal formula from Nature's Herbs. I don't know if it

helped but I never had any gallbladder problems from the IVs. If you take a

supplement, you need to know that straight golden-seal has some toxic

properties. The formula I took had a very tiny amount of golden seal. It also

included a lot of other useful herbs. I checked it out with Poison Control to

be sure that the levels were safe.

Hope this helps.

[Guest guest]

what is the 5 day on 2 day off schedule?? never heard of it.

Hugs

Amy

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

it is called pulse therapy. It didn't work for me at all. maybe it worked for

others.

Connie, MI

[Guest guest]

Dr. Burrascano recommends, when a patient is on Rocephin IVs, that they

administer the IVs once a day for 5 days and then go two days without an IV.

This cycle repeats as long as the patient is on IVs. Apparently, it is

thought that the two days without IVs gives the gallbladder an opportunity to

get rid of the sludge that accumulates. Hope this helps.

[Guest guest]

5 on 2 off is called pulsing.....it is use often....the feeling is that when

u go off for 2 days the spiros are tricked into believing that abx treatment

is done and come out of hiding when u hit htem with abx on the on days it

should kill them......that is the theory......simplified for us simple

people...lol

Reid

[Guest guest]

Angel,

There is a book entitled Your Child Doesn't Have TO Die. The author is

Leanne Sorteberg who is the child's mother that had the tumor. It sounds

the same as your son. It is a very positive story.

Best wishes for your son,

edith

[Guest guest]

On 17 May 99, at 15:02, R. Sooley, D.C. wrote:

> 1. Why are large dosages of certain B vitamins utilized (ie, B2 for

> 'purification') and these dosages not balanced with the rest of the B

> complex?

I would think it is because the B2 is not used (on the kidney

cleanse) for nutritional purposes but to help dissolve stones. It is

also used only for a relatively brief period of time (six weeks).

> 2. Same as #1, but applying to amino acids such as cysteine

Same here. The cysteine is used for handling certain hard to kill

parasites and also over a brief period of time (three weeks).

> 3. Why does Dr. advocate chicken broth which certainly must contain

> many hormones/pesticides which normally reside in the fat. This seems

> contrary to avoiding pollutants.

My answer would be that it is (practically) impossible to avoid _all_

pollutants so it is a matter of avoiding the most (or perhaps the

really) destructive ones. It would also be a question of if the

benefits from something outweighs the possible negative effects.

> 4. What type of research has been done on the syncrometer and what are

> the results. I don't even want to be picky...just any research at all to

> read.

Oh, I don´t know. But I would guess none that would qualify as

scientific proof, whatever that is. :-) You can read a bit more about

the syncrometer (and about many more Hulda related things) at

www..ch which is the home page of Dr. Research

Association.

Best regards, Ulf

ulftage@...

[Guest guest]

At 07:56 AM 5/19/99 +0200, you wrote:

>From: " Ulf Hogberg " <ulftage@...>

>

>On 17 May 99, at 15:02, R. Sooley, D.C. wrote:

>

>> 1. Why are large dosages of certain B vitamins utilized (ie, B2 for

>> 'purification') and these dosages not balanced with the rest of the B

>> complex?

>

>I would think it is because the B2 is not used (on the kidney

>cleanse) for nutritional purposes but to help dissolve stones. It is

>also used only for a relatively brief period of time (six weeks).

>

I thought it was used to purify food. Doesn't this need to be ongoing to

prevent problems from re-occurring?

>> 2. Same as #1, but applying to amino acids such as cysteine

>

>Same here. The cysteine is used for handling certain hard to kill

>parasites and also over a brief period of time (three weeks).

>

My parents are using it to 'cure' their milk, etc. which seems to be an

ongoing project (not just short-term).

>> 3. Why does Dr. advocate chicken broth which certainly must contain

>> many hormones/pesticides which normally reside in the fat. This seems

>> contrary to avoiding pollutants.

>

>My answer would be that it is (practically) impossible to avoid _all_

>pollutants so it is a matter of avoiding the most (or perhaps the

>really) destructive ones. It would also be a question of if the

>benefits from something outweighs the possible negative effects.

>

I'd like to know what the benefits of chicken broth is.....seems to me to

be a cesspool of saturated fats and estrogen-like compounds that are

certainly a risk factor for hormone-dependent cancers such as breast and

prostate

>> 4. What type of research has been done on the syncrometer and what are

>> the results. I don't even want to be picky...just any research at all to

>> read.

>

>Oh, I don´t know. But I would guess none that would qualify as

>scientific proof, whatever that is. :-) You can read a bit more about

>the syncrometer (and about many more Hulda related things) at

>www..ch which is the home page of Dr. Research

>Association.

>

Yes, I've read it.

Hey, I'm not saying Dr. isn't doing fantastic things for her

patients....my parents are doing well after their visit to her. I just

want to learn more about it.

_____________________________________________________________

R. Sooley, DC

Sooley Chiropractic Health Center

11 E. Fairchild St.

Danville, IL 61832

(217) 431-3290 voice

(217) 431-4870 fax

drsooley@...

" Let thy food be thy medicine, and thy medicine be thy food. "

--Hippocrates, the Father of Modern Medicine

A cheerful heart is good medicine... Prov 17:22a

______________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Dear Ingrid:

sorry to hear about your mom.there is a lot of different kinds of programs

out there and it is hard to say which one would be the best for your

situation.i had colon cancer and went thru the chemo and radiation.have

refused chemo after the surgery and they say it is in the lymph nodes and

live.am taking laetrile and a few immune systems enhanchers.they seem to be

helping for i have not had any side effects.have also taken a few apricot

seeds and they make me a little nausea.the best thing i have going for me is

my Lord and Saviour and all my friends praying for me.i know this works and

will stick with it.hope you can find the confort that i did and let the Lord

have his way.ask him to help you make the right decision and you can't go

wrong.

your

friend Tommy

[Guest guest]

On 24 May 99, at 11:08, R. Sooley, D.C. wrote:

> >> 1. Why are large dosages of certain B vitamins utilized (ie, B2 for

> >> 'purification') and these dosages not balanced with the rest of the B

> >> complex?

> >

> >I would think it is because the B2 is not used (on the kidney

> >cleanse) for nutritional purposes but to help dissolve stones. It is also

> >used only for a relatively brief period of time (six weeks).

> >

> I thought it was used to purify food. Doesn't this need to be ongoing to

> prevent problems from re-occurring?

In that case yes, but I am not familiar with that use of the B2. But

still my original answer then applies, in a way. If it is used for

purifying food, then it is not primarily used for nutritional

purposes and then the balance with the other vitamins wouldn´t be

that important.

I must also say that I am not really the right person to answer these

questions as I have only known about Hulda and her methods for

about half a year. I only answer because no one else does. :-)

> >> 2. Same as #1, but applying to amino acids such as cysteine

> >

> >Same here. The cysteine is used for handling certain hard to kill

> >parasites and also over a brief period of time (three weeks).

> >

> My parents are using it to 'cure' their milk, etc. which seems to be an

> ongoing project (not just short-term).

I see. Well, I am not familiar with that use of the cysteine.

> I'd like to know what the benefits of chicken broth is.....seems to me to

> be a cesspool of saturated fats and estrogen-like compounds that are

> certainly a risk factor for hormone-dependent cancers such as breast and

> prostate

I cannot say really why she recommends it in this case. I know that

she sometimes recommends things which go against what is considered

correct among health oriented people (like drinking milk). But I also

know that she always have a very good explanation for her

recommendations. They are never based on fixed ideas or whims or such

things.

> Hey, I'm not saying Dr. isn't doing fantastic things for her

> patients....my parents are doing well after their visit to her. I just

> want to learn more about it.

Yes, nothing wrong with that. :-) First I would recommend her three

books, of course. If you become a member of Dr Research

Association (I am) you will also get the newsletter with information

not found elsewhere as well as a direct line to dr herself.

Also the Norwegian Hulda Klinikken has a brand new home page which

you will find at http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/ Most of it is in

Norwegian but some parts are also in English.

Best regards, Ulf

ulftage@...

[Guest guest]

Barbara Watkins wrote:

>

> From: " Barbara Watkins " <watkins@...>

>

> Hello list,

> I just subscribed and thought I would introduce myself.

Dear Barbara: Welcome! You mentioned that you are only on 200 mg of

doxy/day. Why don't you print out Dr. Burrascano's protocol, which can

be found through a link at www.lymenet.org and give it to your doctor?

That's what I did initially in order to get my doctor to increase my

medication. Good luck!

Lovette

[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara, Welcome to the list. i assure you that if you have had this

disease for over 4 years then you should be on much more meds thtrn 100 doxy

twice a day. Some top LLMDs are using 600mgs of doxy a day. Please check out

DR. B's protocol located at www.lymenet.org and give it to your current

doctor. Please feel free to ask questions and vent on this list. there are

many knowledgeble people here who are really great and know what you are

going through. Feel better -Val

[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara,

Welcome. I know what it's like to go years without a positive test and

no treatment...I felt like celebrating when my WB came back

" Indeterminate " ...4+ reactive bands... and I was finally able to get

treatment by a well-informed LLMD.

As far as the 100mg. of Doxy 2x a day...that's a very low dosage. I

would agree with you and ask to have it increased or perhaps even

changed to another antibiotic in the future. Good Luck,

Joan LI, NY

[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara,

Welcome to the list, forgive my delay in responding. Glad you found

your way to us, you will find much support and information here. I know

what you mean about being thrilled you finally got a positive test.....it

somehow validates how miserable you have been and now you finally know why.

In my opinion you really do need stronger meds than the 200mg of doxy, I

hope by now you have read Dr Burrascano's treatment protocol:

http://www2.lymenet.org/domino/file.nsf/UID/guidelines

If you have any questions or just need to vent, you have come to the

right place, we may not know all the answers, but we will try to point you

in the right direction.

Hugs,

Marta (NJ)

>From: " Barbara Watkins " <watkins@...>

>

>Hello list,

> I just subscribed and thought I would introduce myself. I'm in Texas

with

>two teen-agers, boy and girl, one good husband, 4 cats, one dog, and some

>chickens.

> I've had lyme disease for 4 years and just now getting treatment. I

>figured out that I had it by the bite with the red ring, and the endless

>miserable symptoms but through all the years the only lab my insurance

would

>use gave a negative report, so I was diagnosed as " Not lyme "

> Anyway I've finally found an informed doctor ( have to pay myself) who

>sent my test to Igenex and I finally have it official: a strongly positive

>Western Blot! Isn't that something to be happy about? But yes, it is when

>you've gone so long incorrectly diagosed.

> Now I'm pestering my new good doc to give me stronger meds because I'm

>suspecting that what I'm on ( 100mg doxy twice a day) isn't doing much

good.

>I can't tell that it is.

> Well, that's probably more than you wanted to know about that! I'm

>looking forward to learning from and enjoying the list.

>Sincerely,

>Barbara Looking For The Cure

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/12/99 12:57:39 PM Central Daylight Time,

kjmakl@... writes:

<< Is there a website I can go to to learn about alternative medicines that

might help? Is there anyone on this list who might have advice I could

share with my brother?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully I explained his situation

enough.

Thanks

Kris >>

Hi Kris,

Please check out www.drday.com. This lady had cancer that almost killled

her.(shows pictures) She has many medical credintials but used alternative

route for healing.

Wishing you and brother much success in your endeavours.

edith

[Guest guest]

You might want to take a look at this web site <www.hacres.com>

Jerry

Kris Makl wrote:

> From: Kris Makl <kjmakl@...>

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I'm new to this list so I thought I'd introduce myself and hopefully get

> some advice. My brother who is 51 years old has rectal cancer. January of

> 1998 he was rushed to the hospital because he was so ill he couldn't get

> out of bed. They discovered he had a large tumor in his rectum that had

> eaten away at the lining and all the bad stuff that your normally get rid

> of with a bowl movement was getting into his body. He had such a bad

> infection he almost died. They did surgery and removed the tumor and

> unfortumately half of his butt and all of the skin and muscle from the back

> of one of his legs. He was in BAD shape. I guess I should mention that

> he's an alcoholic, that's how all of this got so bad. Anyway, it's been a

> year and a half now. The tumor grew back and caused lots of pain. He was

> sent for radiation therapy and chemo therapy I think it was in February or

> March. The tumor shrunk to almost nothing and it hadn't spread. We were

> all hopefull that he'd be ok for a while. That didn't last long. The

> tumor is now growing back and he's been told that there is nothing that can

> be done for him. They can't do surgery because of the extensive work done

> the first time around. He'd have a big hole and no way to cover it up.

> They did plastic surgery and now there is no more skin for grafting left.

> They told him that he couldn't do radiation again because there is only so

> much they can do for a person in a lifetime. Another thing to mention here

> is that the only insurance he has in Veterans. He is on Veterans

> disability.

>

> Is there a website I can go to to learn about alternative medicines that

> might help? Is there anyone on this list who might have advice I could

> share with my brother?

>

> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully I explained his situation

> enough.

>

> Thanks

>

> Kris

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Kris,

You should buy a book called " Beating Cancer Through Nutrition " by Dr.

Quillan. It is very informative and has a lot of information on

using nutrition to beat cancer. The author has cured a lot of end stage " no

hope " patients after conventional medicine wrote them off. It retails for

$16.95 in paperback. Borders has it as well as Amazon. I've got it from

both. I think the book is so valuable that I give it away when I find

someone who needs it and can't afford it. I hope this helps.

Take care,

Werner

[Guest guest]

Kris Makl wrote:They did plastic surgery and now there is no more skin for

grafting left.

> They told him that he couldn't do radiation again because there is only so

> much they can do for a person in a lifetime. Another thing to mention here

> is that the only insurance he has in Veterans. He is on Veterans

> disability.

>

> Is there a website I can go to to learn about alternative medicines that

> might help? Is there anyone on this list who might have advice I could

> share with my brother?

>

> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully I explained his situation

> enough.

>

> Thanks

>

> Kris

Try this guy Kris.

Saul Pressman <saul@...>

Dick

[Guest guest]

Go to www.datadepo.com and go to their cancer page. This site also has a

forum and also lists lots of good references.

Melinda

www.cancure.org

Re: [ ] Introduction

>From: Es9525@...

>

>In a message dated 7/12/99 12:57:39 PM Central Daylight Time,

>kjmakl@... writes:

>

><< Is there a website I can go to to learn about alternative medicines that

> might help? Is there anyone on this list who might have advice I could

> share with my brother?

>

> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully I explained his

situation

> enough.

>

> Thanks

>

> Kris >>

>

>Hi Kris,

>

>Please check out www.drday.com. This lady had cancer that almost killled

>her.(shows pictures) She has many medical credintials but used alternative

>route for healing.

>Wishing you and brother much success in your endeavours.

>edith

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi :

My name is Carol Bilz from NJ in the US. Since my husband's diagnosis

April 5 of pancreatic cancer we've learned alot about anti-cancer diets.

Drs. here also were of no help, so we sought a nutritionist/chiropracter

(HARD TO FIND) and read a lot on the subject. I'll be happy to share

whatever information we gather.

Cancer, in general, should be fought nutritionally. You need to build up

the body's own natural immume system by creating healthy cells through

nutrition, especially if you've had chemo and radiation.

Foods to avoid: Red Meat - Have only as a treat once in a while -

Substitute Orgainic Chicken, and lots of fish.

Refined sugar is strictly prohibited. No cakes, ice cream, cookies,

deserts, salad dressings or foods that contain sugar. Foods with

ingredients such as fructose (this is sugar in very concentrated form)

Juice from concentrates also contain too much sugar even tho its natural,

the body still has to process it the same way. Sugar breaks down healthy

cells.

Avoid All soda, coffee. - AND DRINKS CONTAINING CAFFEINE. TRY THE HERBAL

TEAS - AND ACQUIRE A TASTE FOR THEM. Black tea OK, but not too strong.

AVOID: White bread and White Potatoes SUBSTITUTEAWhole grain breads --

and sweet potatoes)

AVOID: White Rice - Substitute Brown rice

AVOID; Pasta Noodles - Substitute Whole grain Pasta and Noodles. consume

only small amts of pasta. increase vegetable side dishes.

FOODS THAT ARE GREAT FOR FIGHTING CANCER: (Whenever possible try to get

organic).

Tofu - perishable, can be obtained @ supermarkets in dairy section. Whip in

orange juice, use in tuna salad or egg salad in place of mayonnaise

-Vegetables (have as many raw as possible) If cooked, cook only as necessary

for taste.

-Fresh tomatoes (have very potent cancer fighting agents and are delicious)

also tomato sauces, make sure it doesn't contain too much sugar or

salt or make it yourself. Takes time, but not difficult.

-Broccoli - Best if eaten raw in salads or dipped in Olive Oil and Vinegar

(seasoned with herbs)

-Broccoli Rob (Bitter taste but can be sauteed in Olive Oil (virgin first

pressed only) with onions and garlic, red and/or green peppers.

-Spinach -

And all the other green vegetables, green beans, peas, etc.

Carrots - and Carrot Juice. Too many carrots can turn the skin yellow.

Don't overdo.

Beans of all variety, kidney, chick peas, lentil, lima. Can make some

delicious soups flavor with just a small amount of ham. Try to make yourself

rather than canned beans. Baked beans contain too much brown sugar to be

of value.

Try to obtain a juicer - ours cost $50 in US Dollars. Following vegetables

should be juiced and drunk during the day.

Combination of Green leafy vegetables such as spinach, arugala, water

cress, dandelion leaves. Can add a carrot or two to sweeten. should be

ground into a juice. Drink 8 oz a day at least. Green color not

appealing, but does not taste bad. Similar to V-8 taste, only green.

Mostly all fruits are very good. Try to have 3 types of fruit per day and

vary them. Should have 1 citrus fruit per day.

You should take supplements. Vitamin C 500 mg 2x a day. - Vitamin E 200

IU per day. B vitamins. Fish OIl. (vit A)

10,000 mg.

VERT IMPORTANT - 1 tablespoon of Flax Seed Oil (first pressed virgin....need

good quality) with fresh or boxed orange orange JUICE. Again avoid any

juice made from concentrates.

VERY POTENT CANCER FIGHTER: - SHITAKE MUSHROOMS. CAN BE EATEN FRESH -

SHOULD ALSO BE TAKEN DAILY AND IS AVAILABLE IN LIQUID FORM - MY HUSBAND

TAKES 9 DROPS 3 TIMES PER DAY TOTAL OF 18.

I TAKE 3 DROPS 2 X'S PER DAY - TOTAL OF 6 AS A PREVENTATIVE MEASURE.

SOY PRODUCTS ARE PARTICULARLY HELPFUL.

WE ALSO TAKE ONE SCOOP EA PER DAY OF ISO SOY IN POWDER FORM AND GREEN

POWDER WHICH CONTAINS WHEAT GRASS, BARLEY, OATS,ETC. CAN BE MIXED WITH

WATER OR FRUIT JUICE.

ALSO START AN EXERCISE PROGRAM. - WALKING IS GREAT.

I HOPE I HAVEN'T OVERWHELMED YOU WITH TOO MUCH INFO @ ONCE. BUT IF YOU'VE

HAD CANCER. IT IS IMPERATIVE TO FOLLOW A DIET THAT GIVES THE BODY MAXIMUM

PROTECTION. COSTS A LITTLE MORE, AND TAKES SOME TIME, BUT WELL WORTH THE

EFFORT. IT'S OK AND GOOD FOR THE SPIRIT TO TREAT YOURSELF ONCE IN A WHILE.

A DIET THAT DEPRESSES IS NOT HELPFUL EITHER.

GLAD TO HEAR YOUR FAITH KEPT YOU GOING. STATISTICS SHOW THAT PEOPLE WITH A

STRONG FAITH ARE MORE LIKELY TO DO WELL. AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE THIS.

MY HUSBAND WAS FORTUNATE, HIS TUMOR WAS DISCOVERED WHEN IT WAS SMALL ENOUGH

TO BE TOTALLY REMOVED WITH NO SPREADING. (UNUSUAL FOR PANCREATIC CANCER)

BUT THERE IS A HIGH RECURRENCE RATE NEVERTHELESS. HOWEVER, WE FIRMLY BELIEVE

THERE'S A LOT ONE CAN DO TO HELP THE BODY HEAL ITSELF AND IMMUNIZE AGAINST

THE DREADED DISEASE.

WISHING YOU GOOD HEALTH!!!!!

[ ] Introduction

From: " J Charters- "

<.J.Charters-@...>

Hi my name is and I live in Australia. Three and a half years ago in

late 1995 when I was twenty five I was diagnosed with Breast Cancer. I'm

twenty

nine now and still alive. I underwent radiation therapy and chemotherapy.

I

also did some health courses at the Wesley Hospital.

I've joined this list to learn from everyone who has had cancer. I was very

uninformed on breast cancer when I was diagnosed with it and I still feel I

don't know enough. I know though that I am lucky to be alive as my surgeon

truly believed I wouldn't live. I honestly believe a good attitude helped

me

immensely and my absolute faith and belief in God. I know not everyone

believes

in the power of God, but I personally do and it helped me to always know

that I

wasn't alone.

Unfortunately my surgeon, trying to be kind, actually made it very difficult

for

me to find out information on breast cancer, diets etc etc. As I was

unaware

where to get good information I just let it be. I'm hoping through this

list

that I will learn alot.

Thank you for reading my introduction.

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