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Sadly in my experience there is no real environment for asperger's kids. 30 normal kids is way too many for an aspie kid to deal with. Yet, 12 disabled kids can be just as bad, especcially if they have severe disabilities or even ED/BD. He needs a class with other kids like him, LD kids, and ADHD kids, and the like, and far less then 30 of them (heck maybe less then 12 of them); you know less severe disabilities that typically have average - above average intelligence. I would push for the non-public if its at all like this, though I am not sure if it is. He also probably needs real help with social skills, if hes being isolated, or worse bullied, at all staying with "normal kids" is not enough. Of course thats just my $.02

From: rachelfran@...Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 04:41:56 -0800Subject: ( ) special ed vs gen ed

My son is 8 and in third grade. He was recently diagnosed with aspergers... experiences some adhd symptoms, anxietyYesterday we met with an educational advocate who went over our test results and also advise on an IEP meeting that's coming up.My son started off the school year poorly; We just moved and he was exhibiting some bad behavior; I've pushed the school to do an FBAwhich they are now doing. Academically he's mostly fine -- a little problem in math but otherwise fine; His biggest issues, of course, are social.Where I live there are several funded non public schools that you can fight to get your child in if the Department of Ed. can't accommodate their needs.I've been told by lawyers that I have a case since my reports reflect that he needs a particular classroom that they do not offer. I should mention that all the doctors and psychologists are in agreement that he needs a smaller classroom. The advocate, based on what we said about how he's getting along now -- advises against the non public setting because he won't be working along "non-disabled" kids ... They'll all be special needs and since he's mostly getting along - he needs to learn those skills of getting along with non disabledkids by being around them. His class is 29 kids right now - which is too much but she says moving him to the private sector -- he'll be in a class of maybe 10-12, all special needs kids and it'll be a shock to him.I wanted to push for the non public but since I have yet been able to tour any of them.. I can't be totally sure. Plus a lot of my fears are based on the future when everything gets harder in school -- middle school - particularly. My husband, was always on the fence is now swayed to keep him where he is ... I'm just wondering what people thing about this situation ... thanks for your feedback.

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My son left the public schools for a private school for AS and his new school

changed his life in a really good way. The classes were smaller and so he got

more individual attention, but more important - my son was with his tribe - he

was with people who understood him and accepted him.

I've heard the argument about kids becoming isolated often when people object to

homeschooling or online schooling or anything else other than the public school

option. But you have to ask - would you rather that your son be in a structured,

positive environment with just a few people where he feels safe or in a chaotic,

noisy environment where he will be teased and bullied.

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Hello ,

I don't really have any advise for you as we are in the same boat...My son is

also 8yo and in 3rd grade...He was dx with Asperger's on December 23rd, 09...He

also has ADHD (dx at age 3) and anxety & depression (dx at age 6)...I wish we

would have done testing then as we might have found out about the dx 2 years

earlier and would have been able to help him with his anxiety and depression

sooner... My so too started off the school year badly wich lead us to do the

psychological testing as recommend by his psycholigist (He was already being

evaluated to determin eligability for servecies at school but she felt is was

important to have the testing done privetly and we agreed)...They have 65 days

to have the meeting with us to determin his eligablity and they are going to use

every bit of that time! :( They have until Feb 5th...

Now I don't know if I should be pushing for an IEP or a 504???

Where do you live and what services are you looking to get from the school

system? Unlike you we don't have a privet school nearby for our son which

leaves the school or homeschooling...I don't think I am up to the later-don't

think I could do my son justice :(

We live in VA...

We have 2 other children: DD who is turning 16 this month (she has ADD and

drepession RT to a genetic disorder that she unfourtunetly got from me (do you

hear my guilt?) We also have another DD who is 4yo - we don't want to do the

genetic testing (because of insurance coverage for her down the road) we are

taking the wait and see approch as recommended by our neurologist...

Any way good to meet you...sorry you are having to deal with this too...I am

sure you are hoping for support and answers from here as am I...

Take care, Pam in VA

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> My son is 8 and in third grade. He was recently diagnosed with aspergers...

experiences some adhd symptoms, anxiety

>

> Yesterday we met with an educational advocate who went over our test results

and also advise on an IEP meeting that's coming up.

>

> My son started off the school year poorly; We just moved and he was

exhibiting some bad behavior; I've pushed the school to do an FBA

> which they are now doing. Academically he's mostly fine -- a little problem

in math but otherwise fine; His biggest issues, of course, are social.

>

> Where I live there are several funded non public schools that you can fight to

get your child in if the Department of Ed. can't accommodate their needs.

> I've been told by lawyers that I have a case since my reports reflect that he

needs a particular classroom that they do not offer. I should mention that all

> the doctors and psychologists are in agreement that he needs a smaller

classroom.

>

> The advocate, based on what we said about how he's getting along now --

advises against the non public setting because he won't be working

> along " non-disabled " kids ... They'll all be special needs and since he's

mostly getting along - he needs to learn those skills of getting along with non

disabled

> kids by being around them. His class is 29 kids right now - which is too much

but she says moving him to the private sector -- he'll be in a class of maybe

10-12, all

> special needs kids and it'll be a shock to him.

>

> I wanted to push for the non public but since I have yet been able to tour any

of them.. I can't be totally sure. Plus a lot of my fears are based on the

future when everything gets harder in school -- middle school - particularly.

My husband, was always on the fence is now swayed to keep him where he is ...

>

> I'm just wondering what people thing about this situation ... thanks for your

feedback.

>

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