RE: Re: Ten Great Points and how they hit home today!

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I just read your post and speaking as an HR Director. They can make a job contingent on a drug screen but it would be a failing drug screen due to use of street drugs not prescribed. It is very unprofessional for them to do what they did and really you could fight back but that company sounds pretty clueless to me. If they are that clueless as to how a drug screen works then they are going to be horrible dealing with one of our kids!! ( ) Re: Ten Great Points and how they hit home today!

It went terrible, he was fired before he started. They sent him for drug screen. Son was prepared because he takes a med for ADD that shows up positive. He gave screener a piece of paper with the presciption, docs name and phone. But screener told employer it would show up positive on drug screen and would take a couple of days (what ever that means) so employer said in that case there is no job and left. Told him to try back in December, "maybe an opening."How can they do this??? I was so upset. Son had decided to not use job coach during training. Don't know if it would help. He has trouble peeing anyway on command and after he was just fired, he couldn't do it.I am so upset...Sue inTN> > >> > > I am the parent of a 12yo son with AS. Currently, I am half-way through > >getting my Bachelor's Degree> > in Psychology. For a paper I am writing currently, would any of you be willing > >to share some of the major challenges you face raising a child with this type of > >disorder. Challenges can be within your home and without (educational settings, > >problems with doctors, taking them out in public, etc).> > > > > > I would truly appreciate any help that anyone is willing to offer. If you > >would like to respond privately, please use my email address listed to do so. > >Responses on the group site are fine with me as well, if allowed.> > > > > > Thanks again for the all help and advice you have provided to me since I > >joined this group!> > > > > > Angi Clifton> > >> >>

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I am so sorry to hear this. Why they do this? He was honest. I have no words to comfort you. I pray for him and you.

Hugs.

Ide

From: Mimi <sue@...> Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 9:49:12 AMSubject: ( ) Re: Ten Great Points and how they hit home today!

It went terrible, he was fired before he started. They sent him for drug screen. Son was prepared because he takes a med for ADD that shows up positive. He gave screener a piece of paper with the presciption, docs name and phone. But screener told employer it would show up positive on drug screen and would take a couple of days (what ever that means) so employer said in that case there is no job and left. Told him to try back in December, "maybe an opening."How can they do this??? I was so upset. Son had decided to not use job coach during training. Don't know if it would help. He has trouble peeing anyway on command and after he was just fired, he couldn't do it.I am so upset...Sue inTN> > >> > > I am the parent of a 12yo son with AS. Currently, I am half-way through > >getting my Bachelor's Degree> > in Psychology. For a paper I am writing currently, would any of you be willing > >to share some of the major challenges you face raising a child with this type of > >disorder. Challenges can be within

your home and without (educational settings, > >problems with doctors, taking them out in public, etc).> > > > > > I would truly appreciate any help that anyone is willing to offer. If you > >would like to respond privately, please use my email address listed to do so. > >Responses on the group site are fine with me as well, if allowed.> > > > > > Thanks again for the all help and advice you have provided to me since I > >joined this group!> > > > > > Angi Clifton> > >> >>

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Ugh, Sue! That sounds so unfair. I would contact the company doing the drug screening and find out how to deal with this in the future. Almost sounds discriminatory to me? I really feel for both of you. I know the quest to find him a job has been exhausting. Thinking about you both.

From: Mimi <sue@...> Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 9:49:12 AMSubject: ( ) Re: Ten Great Points and how they hit home today!

It went terrible, he was fired before he started. They sent him for drug screen. Son was prepared because he takes a med for ADD that shows up positive. He gave screener a piece of paper with the presciption, docs name and phone. But screener told employer it would show up positive on drug screen and would take a couple of days (what ever that means) so employer said in that case there is no job and left. Told him to try back in December, "maybe an opening."How can they do this??? I was so upset. Son had decided to not use job coach during training. Don't know if it would help. He has trouble peeing anyway on command and after he was just fired, he couldn't do it.I am so upset...Sue inTN> > >> > > I am the parent of a 12yo son with AS. Currently, I am half-way through > >getting my Bachelor's Degree> > in Psychology. For a paper I am writing currently, would any of you be willing > >to share some of the major challenges you face raising a child with this type of > >disorder. Challenges can be within

your home and without (educational settings, > >problems with doctors, taking them out in public, etc).> > > > > > I would truly appreciate any help that anyone is willing to offer. If you > >would like to respond privately, please use my email address listed to do so. > >Responses on the group site are fine with me as well, if allowed.> > > > > > Thanks again for the all help and advice you have provided to me since I > >joined this group!> > > > > > Angi Clifton> > >> >>

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Sue,,,

Is there a way you can contact your states' Autism Society? Probably online.

Just ask them if that's legal.

I'd bet that it's not.

I know pushing this...and pushing a company into doing the drugtest to hire your son isn't the way you WANT to go about doing things. I know I sure wouldn't want to fight somewhere to hire mine,,,,but,,,,,however far you choose to go with this, it'd be nice to know if this is legal.

Yikes....just doesn't seem to be legal, though. Drug tests, either way, are sent out. So,,,,why would this dude have a prob with it? I'd check it out.

Hugs.

Robin

And when the broken hearted people living in the world agree, there will be an answer, let it be. For though they may be parted there is still a chance that they will see, there will be an answer. let it be.

From: MacAllister <smacalli@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Re: Ten Great Points and how they hit home today! Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 11:25 AM

Ugh, Sue! That sounds so unfair. I would contact the company doing the drug screening and find out how to deal with this in the future. Almost sounds discriminatory to me? I really feel for both of you. I know the quest to find him a job has been exhausting. Thinking about you both.

From: Mimi <sue@...> Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 9:49:12 AMSubject: ( ) Re: Ten Great Points and how they hit home today!

It went terrible, he was fired before he started. They sent him for drug screen. Son was prepared because he takes a med for ADD that shows up positive. He gave screener a piece of paper with the presciption, docs name and phone. But screener told employer it would show up positive on drug screen and would take a couple of days (what ever that means) so employer said in that case there is no job and left. Told him to try back in December, "maybe an opening."How can they do this??? I was so upset. Son had decided to not use job coach during training. Don't know if it would help. He has trouble peeing anyway on command and after he was just fired, he couldn't do it.I am so upset...Sue inTN> > >> > > I am the parent of a 12yo son with AS. Currently, I am half-way through > >getting my Bachelor's Degree> > in Psychology. For a paper I am writing currently, would any of

you be willing > >to share some of the major challenges you face raising a child with this type of > >disorder. Challenges can be within your home and without (educational settings, > >problems with doctors, taking them out in public, etc).> > > > > > I would truly appreciate any help that anyone is willing to offer. If you > >would like to respond privately, please use my email address listed to do so. > >Responses on the group site are fine with me as well, if allowed.> > > > > > Thanks again for the all help and advice you have provided to me since I > >joined this group!> > > > > > Angi Clifton> > >> >>

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Oh Sue,

My heart breaks for you and your son..........................people are just awful.

From: Mimi <sue@...> Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 10:49:12 AMSubject: ( ) Re: Ten Great Points and how they hit home today!

It went terrible, he was fired before he started. They sent him for drug screen. Son was prepared because he takes a med for ADD that shows up positive. He gave screener a piece of paper with the presciption, docs name and phone. But screener told employer it would show up positive on drug screen and would take a couple of days (what ever that means) so employer said in that case there is no job and left. Told him to try back in December, "maybe an opening."How can they do this??? I was so upset. Son had decided to not use job coach during training. Don't know if it would help. He has trouble peeing anyway on command and after he was just fired, he couldn't do it.I am so upset...Sue inTN> > >> > > I am the parent of a 12yo son with AS. Currently, I am half-way through > >getting my Bachelor's Degree> > in Psychology. For a paper I am writing currently, would any of you be willing > >to share some of the major challenges you face raising a child with this type of > >disorder. Challenges can be within

your home and without (educational settings, > >problems with doctors, taking them out in public, etc).> > > > > > I would truly appreciate any help that anyone is willing to offer. If you > >would like to respond privately, please use my email address listed to do so. > >Responses on the group site are fine with me as well, if allowed.> > > > > > Thanks again for the all help and advice you have provided to me since I > >joined this group!> > > > > > Angi Clifton> > >> >>

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that is horrible. Sounds like some kind of discrimination to me From: sue@...Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 14:49:12 +0000Subject: ( ) Re: Ten Great Points and how they hit home today!

It went terrible, he was fired before he started. They sent him for drug screen. Son was prepared because he takes a med for ADD that shows up positive. He gave screener a piece of paper with the presciption, docs name and phone. But screener told employer it would show up positive on drug screen and would take a couple of days (what ever that means) so employer said in that case there is no job and left. Told him to try back in December, "maybe an opening."

How can they do this??? I was so upset. Son had decided to not use job coach during training. Don't know if it would help. He has trouble peeing anyway on command and after he was just fired, he couldn't do it.

I am so upset...

Sue inTN

> > >

> > > I am the parent of a 12yo son with AS. Currently, I am half-way through

> >getting my Bachelor's Degree

> > in Psychology. For a paper I am writing currently, would any of you be willing

> >to share some of the major challenges you face raising a child with this type of

> >disorder. Challenges can be within your home and without (educational settings,

> >problems with doctors, taking them out in public, etc).

> > >

> > > I would truly appreciate any help that anyone is willing to offer. If you

> >would like to respond privately, please use my email address listed to do so.

> >Responses on the group site are fine with me as well, if allowed.

> > >

> > > Thanks again for the all help and advice you have provided to me since I

> >joined this group!

> > >

> > > Angi Clifton

> > >

> >

>

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I personally think it's none of their buisness why he takes it, but do pursue it legally, I think you have a case.

Cathleen

From: Mimi <sue@...> Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 4:59:27 PMSubject: ( ) Re: Ten Great Points and how they hit home today!

Thanks for your input. I had DS send him a note today saying he was anxious to work. Employer told Voc Rehab it was because he had to have someone to work THAT DAY and so just went on to the next guy. So what happens if that guy come in and gets sick, he's fired? He and son seem to have a good rapport, on just the one interview. I also find it hard to believe that if he liked son and his attitude as much as he let on to Voc Rehab, he wouldn't keep him hangining for several months. I think he was just blowing smoke up their you know what to say that...I wonder about someone's planning skill too if they have no more idea than that (in that type work) that would have such an urgent need. Do you think son should send him any kind of info on why he takes ADD meds and how he focuses better, or just drop it?Thanks again.Sue in TN > > > > > > > > I am the parent of a 12yo son with AS. Currently, I am half-way through > > >getting my Bachelor's Degree > > > in Psychology. For a paper I am writing currently, would any of you be willing > > >to share some of the major challenges you face raising a child with this type of > > >disorder. Challenges can be within your home and without (educational settings, > > >problems with doctors, taking them out in public, etc). > > > > > > > > I would truly appreciate any help that anyone is

willing to offer. If you > > >would like to respond privately, please use my email address listed to do so. > > >Responses on the group site are fine with me as well, if allowed. > > > > > > > > Thanks again for the all help and advice you have provided to me since I > > >joined this group! > > > > > > > > Angi Clifton > > > > > > > > >>

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Hi Sue,

Where in TN are you? I live in TN also. My son is 13 with Aspergers and ADHD. He has always had trouble in school but it has really gotten worse since he started middle school. This year started ok but that only lasted two weeks. Since then it's been a living hell. He is going to half days until fall break then being switched to a new school that is the only school in the district with a small group instruction program for children like him. I pray this works. How was your son's school experience?ne

From: Barbara Pinckney <b-pinckney@...>Subject: RE: ( ) Re: Ten Great Points and how they hit home today!Aspergers Treatment Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 4:02 PM

that is horrible. Sounds like some kind of discrimination to me

From: sue@...Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 14:49:12 +0000Subject: ( ) Re: Ten Great Points and how they hit home today!

It went terrible, he was fired before he started. They sent him for drug screen. Son was prepared because he takes a med for ADD that shows up positive. He gave screener a piece of paper with the presciption, docs name and phone. But screener told employer it would show up positive on drug screen and would take a couple of days (what ever that means) so employer said in that case there is no job and left. Told him to try back in December, "maybe an opening."How can they do this??? I was so upset. Son had decided to not use job coach during training. Don't know if it would help. He has trouble peeing anyway on command and after he was just fired, he couldn't do it.I am so upset...Sue inTN> > >> > > I am the parent of a 12yo son with AS. Currently, I am half-way through > >getting my Bachelor's Degree> > in Psychology. For a

paper I am writing currently, would any of you be willing > >to share some of the major challenges you face raising a child with this type of > >disorder. Challenges can be within your home and without (educational settings, > >problems with doctors, taking them out in public, etc).> > > > > > I would truly appreciate any help that anyone is willing to offer. If you > >would like to respond privately, please use my email address listed to do so. > >Responses on the group site are fine with me as well, if allowed.> > > > > > Thanks again for the all help and advice you have provided to me since I > >joined this group!> > > > > > Angi Clifton> > >> >>

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ne,

We are near Chattanooga. Our son was able

to attend a private school for kids with learning disabilities from 1st

thru 9th grade, but unfortunately, the costs went way up and we had

to put him in public school. That was pretty awful. He loved band and ROTC,

everything else consisted of mimeographed work sheets administered by “special-ed”

teacher who was also the football coach. It really became a waiting game to get

him out of there and a dodging, withholding and delaying services game on their

part until he got out.

It is hard for me to write about him right

now. From before birth, I had a set of idealized ideas of what life with a

child would be like. Well so far, every single one of those “fantasies”

had gone away and been replaced by a much harsher, uglier reality. Even last

week, as soon as he was hired at “good job” I was at it again, found

I was picturing him in my mind, moving out, driving again, meeting people and

having friends, all possible through the job. HA!

So for the third time, he’s been fired

before he even started a job. Through no fault of hi own…but it still has

happened. And while I usually bounce back in about a day, I find that this time

I just can’t do it. I cannot make one more phone call for him, cannot

prompt him one more time to do the most basic stuff like brush his darn teeth.

I just can’t do it anymore. I know I am lucky that he’s not

depressed, not violent, not a drug problem. He just is a 24 hour a day energy

suck.

We are looking at a group home about a

hundred miles from us so that he could have somebody else trying to make him

into a functioning human being besides me. Someone else that could be there

when he loses his wallet yet again with the driver’s license he HAS to

have to get supposed job. I do not see that he will ever be able to grow up

enough to do everyday living. I don’t know how he did it for 16 months at

Job Corps. But it sure was nice to have a break. If he would show the slightest

progress, but he doesn’t, nothing ever gets any better with him. I think

this is the peak.

I just cannot pick myself up and do it one

more time, I cannot call/email Voc Rehab and say please reopen his case, please

give him services. I cannot email/call my probono lawyer from the state of TN

who has taken all the neatly organized files I gave her on him and totally

ignored my calls, emails, and questions since June. I cannot google one more

service, one more help, one more place to try and get him on a path so that

when I die, he will not be living under a bridge in a cardboard box. But I don’t

see any ways out, around, on top, or to fix it.

Sue in TN

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[mailto: ] On Behalf Of susanne hansen

Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010

10:54 PM

To:

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Re: Ten Great Points and how they hit home today!

Hi Sue,

Where in TN are you? I live in TN also. My son is 13

with Aspergers and ADHD. He has always had trouble in school but it has

really gotten worse since he started middle school. This year started ok but

that only lasted two weeks. Since then it's been a living hell. He is going

to half days until fall break then being switched to a new school that is the

only school in the district with a small group instruction program for

children like him. I pray this works. How was your son's school experience?

ne

From: Barbara Pinckney <b-pinckney@...>

Subject: RE: ( ) Re: Ten Great Points and how they hit home

today!

Aspergers Treatment

Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 4:02 PM

that is horrible.

Sounds like some kind of discrimination to me

From: sue@...

Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 14:49:12 +0000

Subject: ( ) Re: Ten Great Points and how they hit home today!

It went terrible, he

was fired before he started. They sent him for drug screen. Son was prepared

because he takes a med for ADD that shows up positive. He gave screener a

piece of paper with the presciption, docs name and phone. But screener told

employer it would show up positive on drug screen and would take a couple of

days (what ever that means) so employer said in that case there is no job and

left. Told him to try back in December, " maybe an opening. "

How can they do this??? I was so upset. Son had decided to not use job coach

during training. Don't know if it would help. He has trouble peeing anyway on

command and after he was just fired, he couldn't do it.

I am so upset...

Sue inTN

> > >

> > > I am the parent of a 12yo son with AS. Currently, I am

half-way through

> >getting my Bachelor's Degree

> > in Psychology. For a paper I am writing currently, would any of you

be willing

> >to share some of the major challenges you face raising a child with

this type of

> >disorder. Challenges can be within your home and without

(educational settings,

> >problems with doctors, taking them out in public, etc).

> > >

> > > I would truly appreciate any help that anyone is willing to

offer. If you

> >would like to respond privately, please use my email address listed

to do so.

> >Responses on the group site are fine with me as well, if allowed.

> > >

> > > Thanks again for the all help and advice you have provided to

me since I

> >joined this group!

> > >

> > > Angi Clifton

> > >

> >

>