Re: dropping everything-aspie trait?

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Oh my yes.  I can't begin to tell you how many bowls have gone missing, and I find out

later that the dropped them.  I usually find out by a sheepish look.  I just nod. 

 

 

 

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:17 PM, <CyberMommyLJA@...> wrote:

 

My 14 1/2 year old Aspie drops everything -- his phone, the remote control,books, drinking cups, you name it, he drops it.He is very athletic and well coordinated, that is, he doesn't stumble when he walks or anything like that.  He then denies dropping things, or says he was trying to shift hands, or has some stupid excuse where he didn't " really " drop the object.

Does anyone else have this experience, or is that just a weird quirk?Barbara in NJ " We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school. " Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender.

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Yes our daughter drops everything too. Her handwriting is

very poor too. However our daughter is not coordinated

and also bumps into things and knocks over cups etc.

Pam

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> control,books, drinking cups, you name it, he drops it.

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> He is very athletic and well coordinated, that is, he doesn't stumble when

> he walks or anything like that. He then denies dropping things, or says he

> was trying to shift hands, or has some stupid excuse where he didn't

> " really " drop the object.

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> Does anyone else have this experience, or is that just a weird quirk?

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> Barbara in NJ

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> " We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in

> school. " Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender.

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my son is 10 years old but he has always dropped things. Drinks are our biggest problems. He doesn't pay attention some times, he has dropped his plate of food, he can not tell why he dropped it. He use to trip alot, his coordination was bad but we put him in gymnastics and that helped with walking and coordination but he still will drop things. I usually just carry food and drinks for him now. I never thought it could be an aspie thing.

Kathy

In a message dated 8/16/2009 1:36:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Debbieln60@... writes:

Oh my yes. I can't begin to tell you how many bowls have gone missing, and I find out

later that the dropped them. I usually find out by a sheepish look. I just nod.

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:17 PM, <CyberMommyLJAcs> wrote:

My 14 1/2 year old Aspie drops everything -- his phone, the remote control,books, drinking cups, you name it, he drops it.He is very athletic and well coordinated, that is, he doesn't stumble when he walks or anything like that. He then denies dropping things, or says he was trying to shift hands, or has some stupid excuse where he didn't "really" drop the object.Does anyone else have this experience, or is that just a weird quirk?Barbara in NJ"We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school." Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender.

[Guest guest]

Yep..our son is not very coordinated either.  We are working at teaching him to ride a bike.

We got a video on it, and are hoping this helps.  If he can do this, this will make his self esteem just soar.

Send us some good thoughts on this.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:22 AM, susanonderko <susanonderko@...> wrote:

 

Yes our daughter drops everything too. Her handwriting is very poor too. However our daughter is not coordinatedand also bumps into things and knocks over cups etc. Pam

>> My 14 1/2 year old Aspie drops everything -- his phone, the remote > control,books, drinking cups, you name it, he drops it.> > He is very athletic and well coordinated, that is, he doesn't stumble when

> he walks or anything like that. He then denies dropping things, or says he > was trying to shift hands, or has some stupid excuse where he didn't > " really " drop the object.> > Does anyone else have this experience, or is that just a weird quirk?

> > Barbara in NJ> > " We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in > school. " Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender.>

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Oh yes, this is definitely something I've seen. Not as much with my son as with

some other aspies we know. has dropped things and he has some odd body

postures and runs into things all the time. I went to a neurologist a few years

ago for ME because I've always always always dropped things and run into things.

It's gotten worse as I've aged and I went through a few years of running into

things or falling and breaking bones. I told my husband that I thought I had

this, that it was an asperger type trait that gets from me. My husband

didn't want to take my word for it and suggested I see a neuro. Who said, " Yup,

same as you son. He had to get it somewhere. No, you're not allowed to blame

yourself! " LOL. I always spill food, knock over my drinks or other people's

drinks. It is better now because I don't force myself to go as fast as everyone

else wants me to. I take my time. Knowing has made a huge difference and my

husband is MUCH more patient with me. It annoys me that he wouldn't believe me,

but he has all the social aspie stuff. Extremely rigid thinking. I think he

thought I was lazy and inefficient. He came out and TOLD me I was inefficient.

I AM because I have to stop and think out every single move I make. Sometimes

when I go in my kitchen it's like going into someone else's kitchen and I have

to THINK about where everything is. I haven't broken any bones since I saw the

neurologist.

PMS makes it MUCH MUCH WORSE so if you have girls don't be surprised if this

happens to them eventually. I can't make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich

without making a big mess when I have pms. I can't get the jelly on the bread

without getting some on the counter and the floor and I end up with peanut

butter on my hands and I feel like I'm trying to control my hands from outside

my body with a joystick or something. It is exasperating and exhausting.

Miriam

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> he walks or anything like that. He then denies dropping things, or says

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> school. " Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender.

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[Guest guest]

it was sent before I finished...my husband is dangerous (ha ha) to be around....he knocks into you, elbows you, steps on you etc. etc. and it isn't on purpose...just clumsy. I think it may be part of AS....

Janice Rushen

"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"

My 14 1/2 year old Aspie drops everything -- his phone, the remote control,books, drinking cups, you name it, he drops it.He is very athletic and well coordinated, that is, he doesn't stumble when he walks or anything like that. He then denies dropping things, or says he was trying to shift hands, or has some stupid excuse where he didn't "really" drop the object.Does anyone else have this experience, or is that just a weird quirk?Barbara in NJ"We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school." Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender.

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My neighbor's son, who, immediately gravitated toward when we first moved

here, was recently diagnosed with AS. He is higher functioning than

because I wasn't sure. He doesn't have the same issues but his clumsiness is

much worse than 's he's just like me in that respect and the two of us in

the same room, my GOSH we just fumble and step on and knock each other and drop

things and I'm always trying to help but I never seem to be able to do it. I'm

rather fond of this kid. I don't enjoy it when he whines and he is a VERY

whiney kid sometimes, but I just totally get how it is when he spills stuff.

We went to his birthday party this past Saturday and he spilled a drink and I

thought to myself, " It was a race between the two of us as to who would spill

first. "

I was volunteering at his school (also my daughter's school) once last year and

I could see so much more of why he has the dx and I also felt extremely annoyed

with the school. Every wednesday he went to a social skills group called Lunch

Bunch.

The way it worked was for him to go to the lunch room, get his lunch and then

walk to the guidance counselor's office. Every wednesday he'd have a meltdown

because he would get food on his clothes then he'd freak out trying to get the

food off and his clothes would be drenched. The day I was there I saw him with

a lunch tray with a HUGE bowl of soup on it.

I just couldn't believe they left him to make that long trek from the lunch room

to the office on his own. Rayleigh and I helped him get there because there was

just NO WAY I'd ever be able to carry that on a tray without spilling so I knew

it would be impossible for him to do it. Rayleigh held doors and I carried

something else and we got him there quickly and without any spills. Then I went

home and made sure his mom knew what I saw. MAN that just cheesed me off. They

needed to figure out something else. I have no idea what, but having that kid

carry liquids through crowded hallways with no lids...pure idiocy on the part of

the school. The guidance counselor was convinced he SHOULD be able to do it.

Maybe so, but adding stress for that wouldn't help him with academics. UGH.

He went with us to the pool last week and we were both trying to pick stuff up

to take with us and both repeatedly dropping them and bumping into each other.

I'm sure it was very comedic. I just SO get this kid. He told his mom about

me, " She's almost as nice as you are, mom. " Well, I do try.

Miriam

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control,books, drinking cups, you name it, he drops it.

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walks or anything like that.  He then denies dropping things, or says he was

trying to shift hands, or has some stupid excuse where he didn't " really " drop

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> " We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school. "

Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender.

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Oh I totally hear you....my husband is so clumsy too. You don't want to be around him when he is working ...fixing up the house or whatever....i always thought it would be something you would see in the movies....when he was staining the deck....he backed up and steped in the stain...when we were siding the house and he was working with Poppy, he would pick up the siding and hit Poppy with it...

Two weeks ago we were at the pool and when he went to sit in the lounge chair he stepped on my toes....full weight (250 lbs.)....my toes ended up black and blue...I could go on and on and on...

All I can say is good thing we are not neighbors...ha ha...no, I would not mind.

And, that lunch bunch ....sound like something they were going to try with my son....and it sounds like a school not to think through those things...maybe you should tell him on those days to order a sandwich or something. Dumb, Dumber and Dumber.

jan

Janice Rushen

"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"

From: Miriam <callis4773@...>Subject: Re: ( ) dropping everything-aspie trait? Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 12:14 AM

My neighbor's son, who, immediately gravitated toward when we first moved here, was recently diagnosed with AS. He is higher functioning than because I wasn't sure. He doesn't have the same issues but his clumsiness is much worse than 's he's just like me in that respect and the two of us in the same room, my GOSH we just fumble and step on and knock each other and drop things and I'm always trying to help but I never seem to be able to do it. I'm rather fond of this kid. I don't enjoy it when he whines and he is a VERY whiney kid sometimes, but I just totally get how it is when he spills stuff. We went to his birthday party this past Saturday and he spilled a drink and I thought to myself, "It was a race between the two of us as to who would spill first." I was volunteering at his school (also my daughter's school) once last year and I could see so much more of why he has the dx and I also felt extremely annoyed with

the school. Every wednesday he went to a social skills group called Lunch Bunch. The way it worked was for him to go to the lunch room, get his lunch and then walk to the guidance counselor's office. Every wednesday he'd have a meltdown because he would get food on his clothes then he'd freak out trying to get the food off and his clothes would be drenched. The day I was there I saw him with a lunch tray with a HUGE bowl of soup on it. I just couldn't believe they left him to make that long trek from the lunch room to the office on his own. Rayleigh and I helped him get there because there was just NO WAY I'd ever be able to carry that on a tray without spilling so I knew it would be impossible for him to do it. Rayleigh held doors and I carried something else and we got him there quickly and without any spills. Then I went home and made sure his mom knew what I saw. MAN that just cheesed me off. They needed to figure out something else.

I have no idea what, but having that kid carry liquids through crowded hallways with no lids...pure idiocy on the part of the school. The guidance counselor was convinced he SHOULD be able to do it. Maybe so, but adding stress for that wouldn't help him with academics. UGH.He went with us to the pool last week and we were both trying to pick stuff up to take with us and both repeatedly dropping them and bumping into each other. I'm sure it was very comedic. I just SO get this kid. He told his mom about me, "She's almost as nice as you are, mom." Well, I do try.Miriam> > > > > > > My 14 1/2 year old Aspie drops everything -- his phone, the remote control,books, drinking cups, you

name it, he drops it.> > He is very athletic and well coordinated, that is, he doesn't stumble when he walks or anything like that. He then denies dropping things, or says he was trying to shift hands, or has some stupid excuse where he didn't "really" drop the object.> > Does anyone else have this experience, or is that just a weird quirk?> > Barbara in NJ> > "We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school." Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender.>

[Guest guest]

How nice Miriam that you were there and so compassionate.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Miriam <callis4773@...> wrote:

 

My neighbor's son, who, immediately gravitated toward when we first moved here, was recently diagnosed with AS. He is higher functioning than because I wasn't sure. He doesn't have the same issues but his clumsiness is much worse than 's he's just like me in that respect and the two of us in the same room, my GOSH we just fumble and step on and knock each other and drop things and I'm always trying to help but I never seem to be able to do it. I'm rather fond of this kid. I don't enjoy it when he whines and he is a VERY whiney kid sometimes, but I just totally get how it is when he spills stuff.

We went to his birthday party this past Saturday and he spilled a drink and I thought to myself, " It was a race between the two of us as to who would spill first. " I was volunteering at his school (also my daughter's school) once last year and I could see so much more of why he has the dx and I also felt extremely annoyed with the school. Every wednesday he went to a social skills group called Lunch Bunch.

The way it worked was for him to go to the lunch room, get his lunch and then walk to the guidance counselor's office. Every wednesday he'd have a meltdown because he would get food on his clothes then he'd freak out trying to get the food off and his clothes would be drenched. The day I was there I saw him with a lunch tray with a HUGE bowl of soup on it.

I just couldn't believe they left him to make that long trek from the lunch room to the office on his own. Rayleigh and I helped him get there because there was just NO WAY I'd ever be able to carry that on a tray without spilling so I knew it would be impossible for him to do it. Rayleigh held doors and I carried something else and we got him there quickly and without any spills. Then I went home and made sure his mom knew what I saw. MAN that just cheesed me off. They needed to figure out something else. I have no idea what, but having that kid carry liquids through crowded hallways with no lids...pure idiocy on the part of the school. The guidance counselor was convinced he SHOULD be able to do it. Maybe so, but adding stress for that wouldn't help him with academics. UGH.

He went with us to the pool last week and we were both trying to pick stuff up to take with us and both repeatedly dropping them and bumping into each other. I'm sure it was very comedic. I just SO get this kid. He told his mom about me, " She's almost as nice as you are, mom. " Well, I do try.

Miriam

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I too have the dropping or knocking over problem as does my son, whilst my husband used to get upset when my son done this I would just expain it was an accident, now that he has been diagnosed with Aspergers I had a few realisations of my own, suddenly life makes more sense, as a child I was bullied, as an adult I have not realised that I am being bullied until someone points it out. I was very good at complicated science, but found simple stuff difficult. In new social situations I am very quiet until I have "figured" every one out. People describe my sense of humour as quirky. And I am starting to realise I frequently bore people with stuff that I find amazing. I think its time to admit to myself that I maybe an Aspie too. Has anyone else gone on a bit of a journey of self discovery?

My neighbor's son, who, immediately gravitated toward when we first moved here, was recently diagnosed with AS. He is higher functioning than because I wasn't sure. He doesn't have the same issues but his clumsiness is much worse than 's he's just like me in that respect and the two of us in the same room, my GOSH we just fumble and step on and knock each other and drop things and I'm always trying to help but I never seem to be able to do it. I'm rather fond of this kid. I don't enjoy it when he whines and he is a VERY whiney kid sometimes, but I just totally get how it is when he spills stuff. We went to his birthday party this past Saturday and he spilled a drink and I thought to myself, "It was a race between the two of us as to who would spill first." I was volunteering at his school (also my daughter's school) once last year and I could see so much more of why he has the dx and I also felt extremely annoyed with

the school. Every wednesday he went to a social skills group called Lunch Bunch. The way it worked was for him to go to the lunch room, get his lunch and then walk to the guidance counselor's office. Every wednesday he'd have a meltdown because he would get food on his clothes then he'd freak out trying to get the food off and his clothes would be drenched. The day I was there I saw him with a lunch tray with a HUGE bowl of soup on it. I just couldn't believe they left him to make that long trek from the lunch room to the office on his own. Rayleigh and I helped him get there because there was just NO WAY I'd ever be able to carry that on a tray without spilling so I knew it would be impossible for him to do it. Rayleigh held doors and I carried something else and we got him there quickly and without any spills. Then I went home and made sure his mom knew what I saw. MAN that just cheesed me off. They needed to figure out something else.

I have no idea what, but having that kid carry liquids through crowded hallways with no lids...pure idiocy on the part of the school. The guidance counselor was convinced he SHOULD be able to do it. Maybe so, but adding stress for that wouldn't help him with academics. UGH.He went with us to the pool last week and we were both trying to pick stuff up to take with us and both repeatedly dropping them and bumping into each other. I'm sure it was very comedic. I just SO get this kid. He told his mom about me, "She's almost as nice as you are, mom." Well, I do try.Miriam> > > > > > > My 14 1/2 year old Aspie drops everything -- his

phone, the remote control,books, drinking cups, you name it, he drops it.> > He is very athletic and well coordinated, that is, he doesn't stumble when he walks or anything like that. He then denies dropping things, or says he was trying to shift hands, or has some stupid excuse where he didn't "really" drop the object.> > Does anyone else have this experience, or is that just a weird quirk?> > Barbara in NJ> > "We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school." Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender.>

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Oh I have most definitely been on a journey of self-discovery. I sometimes bore

people talking about what I want to talk about. I was bullied as a kid. I am

super clumsy and have sensory integration issues. I HATE anything that feels

too soft. I was at a local lake with a sandy beach today and another mom said,

" This sand is so nice and soft. " I touched it and actually flapped my hands.

It's like styrofoam squeaking. I don't like feeling anything dusty on my hands

or feet. The other mom said, " I guess you don't like corn starch, then. " OMG,

it's even WORSE. It's worse than baby powder which I hate as well. Corn starch

makes a squeaky sound. I'm okay if it's wet but dry powdery cornstarch. BLEH.

On top of it I'm also allergic to corn.

I don't like to be touched too lightly. I hate if there is a breeze on my skin

or if someone breathes on me. The only breath I ever could tolerate was if I

was holding a baby. I have no idea what that is okay and even nice, but my

husband snuggling up and breathing on the back of my neck makes me feel hand

flappy and if it doesn't stop when I ask it makes me want to hit him. There are

a lot of sounds I hate.

I have a very sensitive sense of smell but I actually enjoy that most of the

time unless I think the odor might indicate danger. Like gasoline or smoke.

When we first moved into our current home there was a night when I was up late.

Nobody else was awake and I kept smelling something not quite right. It was

driving me crazy and I was sniffing all over the place. Eventually, I found the

source of the smell. Some boxes were too near the gas fireplace and the

cardboard was blackened but hadn't yet actually ignited. There wasn't even any

smoke. It was the smell of very hot cardboard. Another few minutes and I

expect we'd have had flaming boxes. I smelled it long before there was any

smoke for a smoke alarm to detect. The kids had turned on the fireplace. The

worst thing about our fireplace is that the kids can turn in on with the flip of

a switch just like the one for the lights. As long as we don't have anything

too near it's no big deal. It was a problem because we still hadn't unpacked

all the boxes. It's a good thing I smelled it. Smells like that always wake me

up.

Miriam

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If it were me, I'd see a neurologist to check it out. It is not an aspie trait. But it does indicate a problem if it is a constant happening. After the neurological check, I would get an OT eval and have him work on fine motor skills. You can run well and still have poor fine motor.

Roxanna

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

( ) dropping everything-aspie trait?

My 14 1/2 year old Aspie drops everything -- his phone, the remote control,books, drinking cups, you name it, he drops it.

He is very athletic and well coordinated, that is, he doesn't stumble when he walks or anything like that. He then denies dropping things, or says he was trying to shift hands, or has some stupid excuse where he didn't "really" drop the object.

Does anyone else have this experience, or is that just a weird quirk?

Barbara in NJ

"We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school." Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender.

[Guest guest]

A lot of aspie people have coordination issues and clumsiness. My son and I

have both seen neurologists for this type of thing and were told it was related.

It is something that goes along with AS for some of us.

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I am sure I did not say that AS people cannot have these problems.

Some can but not all do. So it's part of other co-morbid problems that

can accompany a neurological disability. If dropping things was part

of having AS, then they would all do it. So this child obviously has

something else going on and should be evaluated. I would not advise

chalking everything up to having AS all the time without investigating

what is going on exactly. Just because some AS people drop things,

doesn't even mean that this is what is happening with this child. It

could be other things causing this problem. Only a doctor would be

able to figure out what is going on and be able to advise what to do to

help him.

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Yes.  That is what I was told regarding our son.  I am hoping, almost praying that we

will be able to help our son learn to ride a bike.  Has been very frustrating for him.

I went online and got this video that is guaranteeed to work...so we shall see.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:56 AM, mimasdprofile <callis4773@...> wrote:

 

A lot of aspie people have coordination issues and clumsiness. My son and I have both seen neurologists for this type of thing and were told it was related. It is something that goes along with AS for some of us.

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No two aspie people are alike. Not all aspies have every single trait. You are

correct in that coordination issues are not considered diagnostic criteria for

asperger syndrome. However, in the DSM of the listed diagnostic criteria one

only needs two of the social interaction issues and I believe 1-2 of the

stereotypic behavior issues for a diagnosis. So saying " They would all have it "

doesn't really apply. Not all kids have to have all the traits.

From my observations I have seen a lot of coordination problems with AS kids,

this is why they drop things. Also, my neurologist felt that the coordination

issues are related to having AS. He's a neurologist. Maybe he doesn't know

everything, but he does know a bit more than average about coordination

problems. It isn't part of the diagnostic criteria, but given that AS is, at

least in part, neurological it makes sense that coordination problems would

happen more often in the AS population than in a neurotypical population. There

are kids with AS who have excellent coordination, I'm sure. I just haven't seen

any of them.

Anyway, I'm sure I expressed this in way more words than needed.

It is true that other things can be causing it.

Miriam

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Just because some AS people drop things, doesn't even mean that this is what is

happening with this child. It

> could be other things causing this problem. Only a doctor would be

> able to figure out what is going on and be able to advise what to do to

> help him.

>

>  Roxanna

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> " The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do

> nothing. " E. Burke

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> -----Original Message-----

[Guest guest]

While talking to my husband about our son knocking things over on purpose I knocked over a full pint of water, all over the news paper and our breakfast, we burst out laughing, you have to see the funny side of Aspies. I think in hindsight I'm the source of my sons traits.

From: mimasdprofile <callis4773@...>Subject: ( ) Re: dropping everything-aspie trait? Date: Monday, 24 August, 2009, 1:55 PM

No two aspie people are alike. Not all aspies have every single trait. You are correct in that coordination issues are not considered diagnostic criteria for asperger syndrome. However, in the DSM of the listed diagnostic criteria one only needs two of the social interaction issues and I believe 1-2 of the stereotypic behavior issues for a diagnosis. So saying "They would all have it" doesn't really apply. Not all kids have to have all the traits.From my observations I have seen a lot of coordination problems with AS kids, this is why they drop things. Also, my neurologist felt that the coordination issues are related to having AS. He's a neurologist. Maybe he doesn't know everything, but he does know a bit more than average about coordination problems. It isn't part of the diagnostic criteria, but given that AS is, at least in part, neurological it makes sense that coordination problems would happen more often in the AS population than in a

neurotypical population. There are kids with AS who have excellent coordination, I'm sure. I just haven't seen any of them.Anyway, I'm sure I expressed this in way more words than needed.It is true that other things can be causing it.Miriam M>> Just because some AS people drop things, doesn't even mean that this is what is happening with this child. It > could be other things causing this problem. Only a doctor would be > able to figure out what is going on and be able to advise what to do to > help him.> > Â Roxanna> > "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do >

nothing." E. Burke> > > -----Original Message-----

[Guest guest]

It does apply because it is not listed as part of the dx criteria.

Using your example, to qualify, you would need two of the three social

interaction issues but they are all part of social interaction issues.

Therefore, having social interaction issues is a trait of having AS

because all people with AS will have this problem. Not every kid has

the same two, but they all have social interaction issues.

Not everyone with AS is dropping thing so it's not part of the dx.

Certainly, it may be part of having a neurological glitch going on - a

co-morbid problem as I said. But you don't know that since you haven't

examined this child personally and you are probably not a neurologist

either. Therefore it would be smart not to dx this as " just part of

having AS " because we don't know that this is accurate at all. It

might be something else such as seizures, CP or some other accompanying

problem that requires attention.

It's nice that you went and saw a neurologist, which is the point. He

has probably seen a lot of people with these kinds of problems and if

the problem was nothing else and simply explained by having a

neurological disorder, then that is the right answer for you. But

until he sees this particular child, you can't say it's part of having

AS. I am sure your neurologist would not do that because this is not

true for everyone with AS. So it is not pa

rt of the AS. If a person

is dropping things continually, it would be wise to see a neurologist

in real life and have an evaluation completed to find out what is

causing the problem because it could be any number of issues. Knowing

the correct cause will then enable the person to get the appropriate

help. Whether you have seen kids with better coordination or not

really is not a factor.

 Roxanna

" The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do

nothing. " E. Burke

( ) Re: dropping everything-aspie trait?

No two aspie people are alike. Not all aspies have every single trait.

You are correct in that coordination issues are not considered

diagnostic criteria for asperger syndrome. However, in the DSM of the

listed diagnostic criteria one only needs two of the social interaction

issues and I believe 1-2 of the stereotypic behavior issues for a

diagnosis. So saying " They would all have it " doesn't really apply.

Not all kids have to have all the traits.

From my observations I have seen a lot of coordination problems with AS

kids, this is why they drop things. Also, my neurologist felt that the

coordination issues are related to having AS. He's a neurologist.

Maybe

he doesn't know everything, but he does know a bit more than

average about coordination problems. It isn't part of the diagnostic

criteria, but given that AS is, at least in part, neurological it makes

sense that coordination problems would happen more often in the AS

population than in a neurotypical population. There are kids with AS

who have excellent coordination, I'm sure. I just haven't seen any of

them.

Anyway, I'm sure I expressed this in way more words than needed.

It is true that other things can be causing it.

Miriam

M

>

>

Just because some AS people drop things, doesn't even mean that this is

what is happening with this child. It

> could be other things causing this problem. Only a doctor would be

> able to figure out what is going on and be able to advise what to do

to

> help him.

>

>  Roxanna

>

> " The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to

do

> nothing. " E. Burke

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

[Guest guest]

Well, the good thing is You Can Laugh about it....and that is the best medicine in the world.

Janice Rushen

"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"

From: mimasdprofile <callis4773 (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) Re: dropping everything-aspie trait? Date: Monday, 24 August, 2009, 1:55 PM

No two aspie people are alike. Not all aspies have every single trait. You are correct in that coordination issues are not considered diagnostic criteria for asperger syndrome. However, in the DSM of the listed diagnostic criteria one only needs two of the social interaction issues and I believe 1-2 of the stereotypic behavior issues for a diagnosis. So saying "They would all have it" doesn't really apply. Not all kids have to have all the traits.From my observations I have seen a lot of coordination problems with AS kids, this is why they drop things. Also, my neurologist felt that the coordination issues are related to having AS. He's a neurologist. Maybe he doesn't know everything, but he does know a bit more than average about coordination problems. It isn't part of the diagnostic criteria, but given that AS is, at least in part, neurological it makes sense that coordination problems would happen more often in the AS population than in a

neurotypical population. There are kids with AS who have excellent coordination, I'm sure. I just haven't seen any of them.Anyway, I'm sure I expressed this in way more words than needed.It is true that other things can be causing it.Miriam M>> Just because some AS people drop things, doesn't even mean that this is what is happening with this child. It > could be other things causing this problem. Only a doctor would be > able to figure out what is going on and be able to advise what to do to > help him.> > Â Roxanna> > "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do > nothing." E. Burke> > >

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[Guest guest]

Did I not just finish SAYING that dropping things isn't part of the diagnostic

criteria? I just SAID that you were RIGHT about that.

what I felt was incorrect is that saying every asperger person has to have a

particular trait for that trait to be listed as diagnostic. It would mean that

you couldn't get a diagnosis even if your child had MOST of the traits listed.

If your child missed just one trait you'd be out of luck. My son doesn't have

every single thing on the list which means that some things on the list are not

in every single child. It says right on the list that a kid only has to have a

certain number of each TYPE of trait to qualify. Some of the diagnostic traits

are not shared by all asperger people.

Anyway, it matters not. I get what you are saying. It is dangerous to assume a

coordination problem is just asperger syndrome because it could miss other

things. Can we drop this now?

Miriam

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> Just because some AS people drop things, doesn't even mean that this is

> what is happening with this child. It

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> > could be other things causing this problem. Only a doctor would be

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> > able to figure out what is going on and be able to advise what to do

> to

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> > help him.

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> >  Roxanna

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> > " The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to

> do

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> > nothing. " E. Burke

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> > -----Original Message-----

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[Guest guest]

Yes, you will need to drop it now. And I did not get from your email

that you were agreeing with me at all. It seemed to me you were

saying, " yes but... " Try not to yell at me just because I took your

email differently than you intended. I am apparently slower than you.

 Roxanna

" The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do

nothing. " E. Burke

( ) Re: dropping everything-aspie trait?

Did I not just finish SAYING that dropping things isn't part of the

diagnostic criteria? I just SAID that you were RIGHT about that.

what I felt was incorrect is that saying every asperger person has to

have a particular trait for that trait to be listed as diagnostic. It

would mean that you couldn't get a diagnosis even if your child had

MOST of the traits listed. If your child missed just one trait you'd

be out of luck. My son doesn't have every single thing on the list

which means that some things on the list are not in every single child.

It says right on the list that a kid only has to have a certain number

of each TYPE of trait to qualify. Some of the diagnostic traits are

not shared by all asperger people.

Anyway, it matters not. I get w

hat you are saying. It is dangerous to

assume a coordination problem is just asperger syndrome because it

could miss other things. Can we drop this now?

Miriam

So,

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> Just because some AS people drop things, doesn't even mean that this

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> what is happening with this child. It

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> > could be other things causing this problem. Only a doctor would be

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> > able to figure out what is going on and be able to advise what to

do

> to

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> > help him.

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> >

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> >  Roxanna

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> >

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> > " The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men

to

> do

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> > nothing. " E. Burke

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> > -----Original Message-----

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[Guest guest]

Welcome to Lose The Training Wheels

In a message dated 8/23/2009 11:04:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, admesenburg@... writes:

Hi,

I'm just curious the about the website and name of video to help your son to learn to ride a bike.

My daughter is 9yrs old and has not mastered riding a bike even though I've been working with her since she was 3 yrs. old.

Any help would be wonderful!!

Thank you,

in NV

A lot of aspie people have coordination issues and clumsiness. My son and I have both seen neurologists for this type of thing and were told it was related. It is something that goes along with AS for some of us.Miriam>> > If it were me, I'd see a neurologist to check it out.? It is not an aspie trait.? But it does indicate a problem if it is a constant happening.? After the neurological check, I would get an OT eval and have him work on fine motor skills.? You can run well and still have poor fine motor.? > > > > > > ?Roxanna> > "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke> > > > > > > ( ) dropping everything-aspie trait?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My 14 1/2 year old Aspie drops everything -- his phone, the remote control,books, drinking cups, you name it, he drops it..> > > > He is very athletic and well coordinated, that is, he doesn't stumble when he walks or anything like that.? He then denies dropping things, or says he was trying to shift hands, or has some stupid excuse where he didn't "really" drop the object.> > > > Does anyone else have this experience, or is that just a weird quirk?> > > > Barbara in NJ> > > > "We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school." Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender.>

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I am NOT endorsing this website or it's product.  This isn't the one that we are using, but I have heard good things about it.

http://www.pedalmagic.com/?gclid=CMPh8JOvzJwCFSDxDAodJXzUKQ 

below is the one we used

 http://www.ridingmadeeasy.com/

 

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:41 PM, <ppanda65@...> wrote:

 

 

Welcome to Lose The Training Wheels

 

 

In a message dated 8/23/2009 11:04:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, admesenburg@... writes:

 

Hi,

 

I'm just curious the about the website and name of video to help your son to learn to ride a bike.

 

My daughter is 9yrs old and has not mastered riding a bike even though I've been working with her since she was 3 yrs. old. 

Any help would be wonderful!!

 

Thank you,

in NV

 

A lot of aspie people have coordination issues and clumsiness. My son and I have both seen neurologists for this type of thing and were told it was related. It is something that goes along with AS for some of us.

Miriam

>> > If it were me, I'd see a neurologist to check it out.? It is not an aspie trait.? But it does indicate a problem if it is a constant happening.? After the neurological check, I would get an OT eval and have him work on fine motor skills.? You can run well and still have poor fine motor.?

> > > > > > ?Roxanna> > " The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. " E. Burke> > > > >

> > ( ) dropping everything-aspie trait?> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > My 14 1/2 year old Aspie drops everything -- his phone, the remote control,books, drinking cups, you name it, he drops it..

> > > > He is very athletic and well coordinated, that is, he doesn't stumble when he walks or anything like that.? He then denies dropping things, or says he was trying to shift hands, or has some stupid excuse where he didn't " really " drop the object.

> > > > Does anyone else have this experience, or is that just a weird quirk?> > > > Barbara in NJ> > > > " We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school. " Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender.

>

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[Guest guest]

>

> I am NOT endorsing this website or it's product. This isn't the one that we

> are using, but I have heard good things about it.

> http://www.pedalmagic.com/?gclid=CMPh8JOvzJwCFSDxDAodJXzUKQ

> below is the one we used

> http://www.ridingmadeeasy.com/

Something some of you might want to consider is that developmental coordination

disorder (dcd) is a common co-morbid condition of AS. My son has this. I don't

know how different it is for different kids, but my son has 6-7 years delay in

left-right and top-bottom coordination and manual dexterity (not fine or gross

motor skills). So, say for instance, if your 9yo had this, her coordination

would be as if she were a 2-3yo child. Which means she will probably not be

able to ride a two-wheeler without training wheels yet.

Just something to think about.

You can find the details of DCD out with a full occupational therapy evaluation.

If you do a full neuropsych or autism eval, they will most likely also screen

for it, since it is so common with autism. But you have to do the OT eval to

really get the details.

It can be difficult to see. Your child may appear just a little clumsy and

actually have moderate to severe delays. In my son's case, his fine and gross

motor skills are well above average, so this kind of masks the delays. It

doesn't appear to cancel them out though, just hides them.