Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I had to change my son's classification to Autism, it seems that the school did not take his disability into consideration. His meltdowns and behaviors are classic of autism, but the school was not having it,( suspensions took place due to behaviors and social skills issues) so I changed his dx in our last IEP meeting. Now the school is still not getting it, and with my pushing the school district due to lack of their cooperation and the ridiculous suspensions, the school district suggested that I let the district autism team observe my son. My thought is that the autism dx can be helpful if I should have to go due process. I feel the breakdown is with the implementation and lack of training with paras and teachers. There seems to not be a place for our kids with HFA or aspergers, there is either the ED classroom or significant needs, neither are a good fit for HFA and aspergers, which in turn leads to the lack of training and implementation. My recommendation as one parent to another is to keep the autism classification as this classification might benefit your child if the school is not able to meet their needs. Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Our lawyer told us take what ever category they give you, just get classified. Our daughter is classified under Other Health Impaired. I don't see what the big deal is at the school. In our daughter's case it did not change her services one way or another. Anyway congratulations I getting her classifed under IEP that is a big step forward. Pam > > I have an IEP meeting coming up to get my daughter into Kindergarten. The school psychologist calls me today to find out which category I want my daughter to be in.???.. considering that although Asperger's is on the spectrum, she has Asperger's and the Autism category makes people think it's something more serious and that maybe I would want her in the health issues category or something like that. When I calmly and quickly said no that the Autism category definitely, she started to explain that this doesn't change her diagnosis... I just kept saying that the Autism category was just fine.... Apparently these people think that I am brain dead because there is no way they are going to start chipping away at my daughter's services. They already aren't taking my daughter seriously! > > Trying so hard not to be angry all the time!!!! > > Jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 WATCH OUT! I had the school psychologist observe my son. He observed him for "30 minutes" and came back stating that my son does not show signs of Asperger's but is completely DEFIANT. I told him to come observe him all night or when Hunter has a bad time, or when his mind is elsewhere, that he cant dx him in 30 minutes! From: "azucarmama68@..." <azucarmama68@...> Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 11:48:52 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Re: Changing catagories?? I had to change my son's classification to Autism, it seems that the school did not take his disability into consideration. His meltdowns and behaviors are classic of autism, but the school was not having it,( suspensions took place due to behaviors and social skills issues) so I changed his dx in our last IEP meeting. Now the school is still not getting it, and with my pushing the school district due to lack of their cooperation and the ridiculous suspensions, the school district suggested that I let the district autism team observe my son. My thought is that the autism dx can be helpful if I should have to go due process. I feel the breakdown is with the implementation and lack of training with paras and teachers. There seems to not be a place for our kids with HFA or aspergers, there is either the ED classroom or significant needs, neither are a good fit for HFA and aspergers, which in turn leads to the lack of training and implementation. My recommendation as one parent to another is to keep the autism classification as this classification might benefit your child if the school is not able to meet their needs. Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Being a psychologist he should not be dx anyone, or should the school, as they do not hold the Medical Degree. If the autism team came back at me with such an answer I would definitely ask them where the received their medical degree, but i would also add what you did, come to my home and observe my child you will see some autistic behaviors. : ) Take care, Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I agree it is hard to find a fit for our kids. I felt my daughter ws more stable in smaller special ed classes with kids with learning issues like dyslexia even though she is an excellent reader. But she has real issuse with writing papers, organizing herself and keeping up the pace of school. Kids with learning deficits like dyslexia or ADHD are not bad role models socially either. Our therapist had to explain to the IEP team that our daughter needed smaller supportive classroom settings even though she was doing well academically but it made her too anxious and explosive at home. I know that there are some AS kids that are very gifted academically. These kids are in a bind if they find the larger class overwhelming but could do the work. It perhaps would not be challenging enough to be in special education classes. My daughter's anxiety is so severe we had to opt for special ed as a calmer setting so she was more stable. The important thing to me is that she stay in school with peers. School has been very anxiety provoking for my daughter since preschool she finally has some peace in 6th grade with all special services. Pam > > I had to change my son's classification to Autism, it seems that the school > did not take his disability into consideration. His meltdowns and > behaviors are classic of autism, but the school was not having it,( suspensions > took place due to behaviors and social skills issues) so I changed his dx in > our last IEP meeting. Now the school is still not getting it, and with my > pushing the school district due to lack of their cooperation and the > ridiculous suspensions, the school district suggested that I let the district > autism team observe my son. My thought is that the autism dx can be helpful if I > should have to go due process. I feel the breakdown is with the > implementation and lack of training with paras and teachers. There seems to not be a > place for our kids with HFA or aspergers, there is either the ED classroom > or significant needs, neither are a good fit for HFA and aspergers, which > in turn leads to the lack of training and implementation. My recommendation > as one parent to another is to keep the autism classification as this > classification might benefit your child if the school is not able to meet their > needs. > > Dawn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 DS is categorized under Autism. That classification brings with it an entire new section of his IEP - Autism Considerations. The section contains the following items: 1. Verbal and nonverbal communication needs 2. Social interaction skills and proficiencies 3. Needs resulting from unusual responses to sensory experiences 4. Needs resulting from resistance to environmental change or change in daily routines 5. Needs resulting from engagement in repetitive activities and stereotyped movements 6. Need for any positive behavioral interventions, strategies and supports 7. Other needs which impact progress in the general curriculum, including social and emotional development. We address DS' needs in each of these seven items and what supports we are putting into place to assist him where there is a deficiency. My school district uses EasyIEP and this section is literally triggered by choosing Autism Spectrum Disorder as the classification. If he were classified as OHI (Other Health Impaired), this section wouldn't be in his IEP. I don't know if this is an EasyIEP thing or if it's something that IDEA mandates for children classified with an ASD. FWIW . . . Thanks, ( ) Re: Changing catagories?? > Our lawyer told us take what ever category they give you, just > get classified. Our daughter is classified under Other Health > Impaired. I don't see what the big deal is at the school. In our > daughter's case it did not change her services one way or another. > Anyway congratulations I getting her classifed under IEP that > is a big step forward. > > Pam > > >> >> I have an IEP meeting coming up to get my daughter into Kindergarten. The >> school psychologist calls me today to find out which category I want my >> daughter to be in.???.. considering that although Asperger's is on the >> spectrum, she has Asperger's and the Autism category makes people think >> it's something more serious and that maybe I would want her in the health >> issues category or something like that. When I calmly and quickly said no >> that the Autism category definitely, she started to explain that this >> doesn't change her diagnosis... I just kept saying that the Autism >> category was just fine.... Apparently these people think that I am brain >> dead because there is no way they are going to start chipping away at my >> daughter's services. They already aren't taking my daughter seriously! >> >> Trying so hard not to be angry all the time!!!! >> >> Jen >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 our district requires 3 observations for an autism evaluation. and dh was just reading if the autism specialist is called in she is supposed to do a home observation (which she did not however she qualified as autsitic so I am not complaining) On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Baer <amandabaer76@...> wrote:  WATCH OUT! I had the school psychologist observe my son. He observed him for " 30 minutes " and came back stating that my son does not show signs of Asperger's but is completely DEFIANT. I told him to come observe him all night or when Hunter has a bad time, or when his mind is elsewhere, that he cant dx him in 30 minutes! From: " azucarmama68@... " <azucarmama68@...> Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 11:48:52 AM Subject: Re: ( ) Re: Changing catagories??  I had to change my son's classification to Autism, it seems that the school did not take his disability into consideration. His meltdowns and behaviors are classic of autism, but the school was not having it,( suspensions took place due to behaviors and social skills issues) so I changed his dx in our last IEP meeting. Now the school is still not getting it, and with my pushing the school district due to lack of their cooperation and the ridiculous suspensions, the school district suggested that I let the district autism team observe my son. My thought is that the autism dx can be helpful if I should have to go due process. I feel the breakdown is with the implementation and lack of training with paras and teachers. There seems to not be a place for our kids with HFA or aspergers, there is either the ED classroom or significant needs, neither are a good fit for HFA and aspergers, which in turn leads to the lack of training and implementation. My recommendation as one parent to another is to keep the autism classification as this classification might benefit your child if the school is not able to meet their needs.  Dawn -- -mommy to Emma, Becca, , , , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does ever pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 we are doing an autism iep now and do not have that so must be an easy iep thing On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Zielke <rlzielke@...> wrote: Â DS is categorized under Autism. That classification brings with it an entire new section of his IEP - Autism Considerations. The section contains the following items:1. Verbal and nonverbal communication needs 2. Social interaction skills and proficiencies3. Needs resulting from unusual responses to sensory experiences4. Needs resulting from resistance to environmental change or change in daily routines5. Needs resulting from engagement in repetitive activities and stereotyped movements6. Need for any positive behavioral interventions, strategies and supports7. Other needs which impact progress in the general curriculum, including social and emotional development.We address DS' needs in each of these seven items and what supports we are putting into place to assist him where there is a deficiency. My school district uses EasyIEP and this section is literally triggered by choosing Autism Spectrum Disorder as the classification. If he were classified as OHI (Other Health Impaired), this section wouldn't be in his IEP. I don't know if this is an EasyIEP thing or if it's something that IDEA mandates for children classified with an ASD.FWIW . . . Thanks, ( ) Re: Changing catagories??> Our lawyer told us take what ever category they give you, just> get classified. Our daughter is classified under Other Health > Impaired. I don't see what the big deal is at the school. In our> daughter's case it did not change her services one way or another.> Anyway congratulations I getting her classifed under IEP that > is a big step forward.>> Pam>> >> >> I have an IEP meeting coming up to get my daughter into Kindergarten. The >> school psychologist calls me today to find out which category I want my >> daughter to be in.???.. considering that although Asperger's is on the >> spectrum, she has Asperger's and the Autism category makes people think >> it's something more serious and that maybe I would want her in the health >> issues category or something like that. When I calmly and quickly said no >> that the Autism category definitely, she started to explain that this >> doesn't change her diagnosis... I just kept saying that the Autism >> category was just fine.... Apparently these people think that I am brain >> dead because there is no way they are going to start chipping away at my >> daughter's services. They already aren't taking my daughter seriously!>>>> Trying so hard not to be angry all the time!!!! >>>> Jen>>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 well we found our teachers reluctant to accept the autism dx b/c she wasnt classic autism, I think ohi may have gotten more cooperation b/c they may not have understood the other things but autism ppl have a preconceived notion about at times. so we have still dealt a lot with ppl thinking it is behavioral On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 6:05 PM, K <kristalstamper@...> wrote:  Stick with the autism--generates a higher level of money for the school district in their budget matrix funding. This will get your daughter more services---plus it's a much bigger eye opener to a teacher than OHI.  Purrs & Kisses, Kristal of Digi Kitty The Kitty who loves Digi! Designer for the VDBC " More " Team - you can see my designs HERE!!!    From: Zielke <rlzielke@...> Subject: ( ) Re: Changing catagories?? Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 10:23 PM  DS is categorized under Autism. That classification brings with it an entire new section of his IEP - Autism Considerations. The section contains the following items:1. Verbal and nonverbal communication needs 2. Social interaction skills and proficiencies3. Needs resulting from unusual responses to sensory experiences4. Needs resulting from resistance to environmental change or change in daily routines5. Needs resulting from engagement in repetitive activities and stereotyped movements6. Need for any positive behavioral interventions, strategies and supports7. Other needs which impact progress in the general curriculum, including social and emotional development.We address DS' needs in each of these seven items and what supports we are putting into place to assist him where there is a deficiency. My school district uses EasyIEP and this section is literally triggered by choosing Autism Spectrum Disorder as the classification. If he were classified as OHI (Other Health Impaired), this section wouldn't be in his IEP. I don't know if this is an EasyIEP thing or if it's something that IDEA mandates for children classified with an ASD.FWIW . . . Thanks, ( ) Re: Changing catagories?? > Our lawyer told us take what ever category they give you, just> get classified. Our daughter is classified under Other Health> Impaired. I don't see what the big deal is at the school. In our > daughter's case it did not change her services one way or another.> Anyway congratulations I getting her classifed under IEP that> is a big step forward.>> Pam>> >>>> I have an IEP meeting coming up to get my daughter into Kindergarten. The >> school psychologist calls me today to find out which category I want my >> daughter to be in.???.. considering that although Asperger's is on the >> spectrum, she has Asperger's and the Autism category makes people think >> it's something more serious and that maybe I would want her in the health >> issues category or something like that. When I calmly and quickly said no >> that the Autism category definitely, she started to explain that this >> doesn't change her diagnosis... I just kept saying that the Autism >> category was just fine.... Apparently these people think that I am brain >> dead because there is no way they are going to start chipping away at my >> daughter's services. They already aren't taking my daughter seriously!>>>> Trying so hard not to be angry all the time!!!! >>>> Jen>>>>>>> ------------------------------------>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Yes I understand what you mean. The public schools generally do not understand Aspergers and some do associate it with lower spectrum autism. So you have to do what you can to get the services you need. Regardless what category--a few years ago they even used OHI for ADD--whatever didn't fit anywhere else. however, if my son ever goes back in PS, I'll push for the autism category--just because it is his diagnosis, but will insist they note higher spectrum, and Aspergers in particular. When I taught special education, I had parents that would send in a folder of information, tips, etc on their child's condition. I thought it very impressive, because they wanted the teacher to understand their kid. Public school is just that--PUBLIC. It's a government based program--so it will always have lots of red tape--just like any other big government component. We just have to get out our scissors and cut away, don't we? lol I say whatever works for your kid--is the way to go. We can get advice, but when it comes down to it, it's whatever works for us, right here right ow. Purrs & Kisses, Kristal of Digi Kitty The Kitty who loves Digi! Designer for the VDBC "More" Team - you can see my designs HERE!!! From: Zielke <rlzielkecomcast (DOT) net> Subject: ( ) Re: Changing catagories?? Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 10:23 PM DS is categorized under Autism. That classification brings with it an entire new section of his IEP - Autism Considerations. The section contains the following items:1. Verbal and nonverbal communication needs2. Social interaction skills and proficiencies3. Needs resulting from unusual responses to sensory experiences4. Needs resulting from resistance to environmental change or change in daily routines5. Needs resulting from engagement in repetitive activities and stereotyped movements6. Need for any positive behavioral interventions, strategies and supports7. Other needs which impact progress in the general curriculum, including social and emotional development.We address DS' needs in each of these seven items and what supports we are putting into place to assist him where there is a deficiency. My school district uses EasyIEP and this section is literally triggered by choosing Autism Spectrum Disorder as the classification. If he were classified as OHI (Other Health Impaired), this section wouldn't be in his IEP. I don't know if this is an EasyIEP thing or if it's something that IDEA mandates for children classified with an ASD.FWIW . . .Thanks, ( ) Re: Changing catagories??> Our lawyer told us take what ever category they give you, just> get classified. Our daughter is classified under Other Health> Impaired. I don't see what the big deal is at the school. In our> daughter's case it did not change her services one way or another.> Anyway congratulations I getting her classifed under IEP that> is a big step forward.>> Pam>> >>>> I have an IEP meeting coming up to get my daughter into Kindergarten. The >> school psychologist calls me today to find out which category I want my >> daughter to be in.???.. considering that although Asperger's is on the >> spectrum, she has Asperger's and the Autism category makes people think >> it's something more serious and that maybe I would want her in the health >> issues category or something like that. When I calmly and quickly said no >> that the Autism category definitely, she started to explain that this >> doesn't change her diagnosis... I just kept saying that the Autism >> category was just fine.... Apparently these people think that I am brain >> dead because there is no way they are going to start chipping away at my >> daughter's services. They already aren't taking my daughter seriously!>>>> Trying so hard not to be angry all the time!!!!>>>> Jen>>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 I hear you on that observation period! I had a private evaluation done to back me up if we return to PS. Consider having a private psychological done. Our insurance paid for it, and they have specific tests for Aspergers, and usually are more aware of Aspergers than a School District psychologist--who is usually overworked and takes a while to get the testing done. Just my 2 cents I wouldn't personally EVER depend on the school district to diagnose my child with Aspergers. The first thing they would say to me, is he is too smart to evaluate. He doesn't struggle with schoolwork, so it is not impacting his academic performance. You are also right too--that they would say ODD--it's a classic popular approach.....but so not our kids! The hard thing with ASpergers is that their symptoms mimic small other thigns like ODD, ADHD, etc. Purrs & Kisses, Kristal of Digi Kitty The Kitty who loves Digi! Designer for the VDBC "More" Team - you can see my designs HERE!!! WATCH OUT! I had the school psychologist observe my son. He observed him for "30 minutes" and came back stating that my son does not show signs of Asperger's but is completely DEFIANT. I told him to come observe him all night or when Hunter has a bad time, or when his mind is elsewhere, that he cant dx him in 30 minutes! From: "azucarmama68@ aol.com" <azucarmama68@ aol.com> Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 11:48:52 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Re: Changing catagories?? I had to change my son's classification to Autism, it seems that the school did not take his disability into consideration. His meltdowns and behaviors are classic of autism, but the school was not having it,( suspensions took place due to behaviors and social skills issues) so I changed his dx in our last IEP meeting. Now the school is still not getting it, and with my pushing the school district due to lack of their cooperation and the ridiculous suspensions, the school district suggested that I let the district autism team observe my son. My thought is that the autism dx can be helpful if I should have to go due process. I feel the breakdown is with the implementation and lack of training with paras and teachers. There seems to not be a place for our kids with HFA or aspergers, there is either the ED classroom or significant needs, neither are a good fit for HFA and aspergers, which in turn leads to the lack of training and implementation. My recommendation as one parent to another is to keep the autism classification as this classification might benefit your child if the school is not able to meet their needs. Dawn -- -mommy to Emma, Becca, , , , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does ever pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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