Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I meant that I don't think Einstein had AS. I don't think we can really dx people just by observing some behaviors and even less by reading about people who have died already, even famous people. So I don't think Einstein had anything that needed a cure. But if he did have AS and I had the cure for AS, I would hand it over to him asap without losing any sleep that the world of physics would be harmed in any way. I don't believe his genius was related to autism or anyone's genius is related to autism. My one ds is technically a genius and has autism. I don't think the one caused the other at all. Without autism, he would still be a really smart kid but without all the autistic issues we have to deal with. Is that what you thought I meant? lol. Roxanna "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke ( ) Parenthood > > > > > > > > > > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head > > realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will > > watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit > > heartbreaking for me to watch. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > -mommy to Emma, Becca, , > and > > Girl Scout cookies are coming! > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 , you have a habit of making sweeping comments about groups of people - from SAHM's to now middle management people. Not every genius has AS. It's that simple. If your theory were true, all people with AS would be genius's who are out making wonderful inventions and changing the world. But that is not true at all. What else explains Einstein's problems in life? A lot of things could do that. He was human, he was not just a "gifted" man. He had other traits and issues to deal with like anyone else. NT people do not grow up in perfect lives with perfect 50%ile scores in everything. Neither do people who have high IQ's. I also have a problem with dx'ing people we don't know and people who are dead with a behavioral disability. We don't know so many things about what makes a person tick. And so often, these things can intermingle with other disorders. Everyone who is shy isn't AS, for instance. Everyone with OCD does not have AS. Etc. I know there are a lot of people who dx everyone from tv characters to dead people to their pets with AS. I get that it can be fun to do that and to relate that way. I get more ruffled by it than not just because I think it diminishes the process and the disability. It does not help people take the needs of this community seriously, IMO. One time I talked to a lawyer about my oldest ds who has HFA and also has dyslexia. Well, she said, "Are you sure he's got HFA?" and I realized that many of the traits for one problem could also be attributed to the other problem just as easily. So had she seen a profile of my kid, she would have said "dyslexia" and never went to HFA unless she had met him and taken the appropriate history and evaluations into consideration. So I don't think we can say, "Oh, he can't make friends...he's got AS!" It isn't that simple. A lot of things could be going on that we don't know about. And the same kind of problem can be happening within someone for different reasons than for someone else. Back to stereotypes, not all "middle management" people are not changing the world, or their part of the world and you can't say that they are not worthwhile or doing good things that matter to people. NT people can and do study physics in their free time; the world is full of a variety of people with a variety of interests from casual to obsessive. History is full of those people who made amazing changes to our society in a variety of ways and who are not AS. A lot of genius traits can be similar to traits of other disabilities as well. People with higher IQ's have their own set of problems as well. And people are a mishmash of things, not any one defining thing. I know you want to attribute who you are to a disability (AS) and if that is what makes you happy, then great. But I don't see it that way and I don't have to see it that way in order to love my kids or even to love people who have autism. I don't feel my kids are defined by their disability. As their mother, I am going to love them no matter what is going on - good or bad or in between. That's a mother thing. lol. But autism gets no affection from me. What it does to people is not a good thing. I spent several years working with a kid who has severe autism and I wished so hard to make it go away. He was in there and he was so hampered by autism that he could not function. The amount of effort he had to put forth just to do something simple was astounding. I won't ever look at autism as something good or even a piece of something good. Whatever he did, he did despite having autism, not because of it. Whatever my kids do well, it's because they worked harder than someone without a disability to get there. And that's a credit to who they are! I cheer for them, not for a disability that tried to rob from them. I guess it has a lot to do with experiences with autism within my own family and with my work experience. People have their own ways of coping with this stuff so I see why people want to make it seem like a good thing or make their child's issues seem a gift rather than a problem. I was there once myself in the beginning, trying to make it seem like my oldest ds's problems were somehow going to be good in the end. But I just have learned the hard way over the years that this is not a good thing. It's just how I feel. Roxanna "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke ( ) Parenthood > > > > > > > > > > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head > > realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will > > watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit > > heartbreaking for me to watch. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > -mommy to Emma, Becca, , > and > > Girl Scout cookies are coming! > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Is changing the world your criteria for having AS? Roxanna "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke ( ) Parenthood >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head >> > realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will >> > watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit >> > heartbreaking for me to watch. >> > >> > Thoughts? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________________ >> > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. >> > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> -mommy to Emma, Becca, , >> and >> >> Girl Scout cookies are coming! >> > > > -- Sent from my mobile device -mommy to Emma, Becca, , and Girl Scout cookies are coming! Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn More. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I totally understand how you feel, Roxanna. I don't think my son's Aspergers is his whole "personality." I feel his real personality is hidden under his quirks and anxieties. I am starting to see more of the "real" him as we work on those issues, and as his anxieties are being calmed with medication. I love seeing that sweet personality come out. I also wanted to say he is very smart, but he could barely learn to read with all his anxieties distracting him. In the past year or so, since starting therapy and medication, he has learned leaps and bounds over what he learned in the years before. Some kids honestly do not have much of a chance to be part of the world, let alone change it, unless they get help with their issues. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Suzanne suzmarkwood@... From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Parenthood Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 8:14 AM , you have a habit of making sweeping comments about groups of people - from SAHM's to now middle management people. Not every genius has AS. It's that simple. If your theory were true, all people with AS would be genius's who are out making wonderful inventions and changing the world. But that is not true at all. What else explains Einstein's problems in life? A lot of things could do that. He was human, he was not just a "gifted" man. He had other traits and issues to deal with like anyone else. NT people do not grow up in perfect lives with perfect 50%ile scores in everything. Neither do people who have high IQ's. I also have a problem with dx'ing people we don't know and people who are dead with a behavioral disability. We don't know so many things about what makes a person tick. And so often, these things can intermingle with other disorders. Everyone who is shy isn't AS, for instance. Everyone with OCD does not have AS. Etc. I know there are a lot of people who dx everyone from tv characters to dead people to their pets with AS. I get that it can be fun to do that and to relate that way. I get more ruffled by it than not just because I think it diminishes the process and the disability. It does not help people take the needs of this community seriously, IMO. One time I talked to a lawyer about my oldest ds who has HFA and also has dyslexia. Well, she said, "Are you sure he's got HFA?" and I realized that many of the traits for one problem could also be attributed to the other problem just as easily. So had she seen a profile of my kid, she would have said "dyslexia" and never went to HFA unless she had met him and taken the appropriate history and evaluations into consideration. So I don't think we can say, "Oh, he can't make friends...he' s got AS!" It isn't that simple. A lot of things could be going on that we don't know about. And the same kind of problem can be happening within someone for different reasons than for someone else. Back to stereotypes, not all "middle management" people are not changing the world, or their part of the world and you can't say that they are not worthwhile or doing good things that matter to people. NT people can and do study physics in their free time; the world is full of a variety of people with a variety of interests from casual to obsessive. History is full of those people who made amazing changes to our society in a variety of ways and who are not AS. A lot of genius traits can be similar to traits of other disabilities as well. People with higher IQ's have their own set of problems as well. And people are a mishmash of things, not any one defining thing. I know you want to attribute who you are to a disability (AS) and if that is what makes you happy, then great. But I don't see it that way and I don't have to see it that way in order to love my kids or even to love people who have autism. I don't feel my kids are defined by their disability. As their mother, I am going to love them no matter what is going on - good or bad or in between. That's a mother thing. lol. But autism gets no affection from me. What it does to people is not a good thing. I spent several years working with a kid who has severe autism and I wished so hard to make it go away. He was in there and he was so hampered by autism that he could not function. The amount of effort he had to put forth just to do something simple was astounding. I won't ever look at autism as something good or even a piece of something good. Whatever he did, he did despite having autism, not because of it. Whatever my kids do well, it's because they worked harder than someone without a disability to get there. And that's a credit to who they are! I cheer for them, not for a disability that tried to rob from them. I guess it has a lot to do with experiences with autism within my own family and with my work experience. People have their own ways of coping with this stuff so I see why people want to make it seem like a good thing or make their child's issues seem a gift rather than a problem. I was there once myself in the beginning, trying to make it seem like my oldest ds's problems were somehow going to be good in the end. But I just have learned the hard way over the years that this is not a good thing. It's just how I feel. Roxanna"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke ( ) Parenthood> >> >> >> >> > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head> > realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will> > watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit> > heartbreaking for me to watch.> >> > Thoughts?> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.> > http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 201469230/ direct/01/> > -- > Sent from my mobile device> > -mommy to Emma, Becca, ,> and > > Girl Scout cookies are coming!> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Wonderfully written, Roxanna!Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...>Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:14:52 -0400< >Subject: Re: ( ) Parenthood , you have a habit of making sweeping comments about groups of people - from SAHM's to now middle management people. Not every genius has AS. It's that simple. If your theory were true, all people with AS would be genius's who are out making wonderful inventions and changing the world. But that is not true at all. What else explains Einstein's problems in life? A lot of things could do that. He was human, he was not just a "gifted" man. He had other traits and issues to deal with like anyone else. NT people do not grow up in perfect lives with perfect 50%ile scores in everything. Neither do people who have high IQ's. I also have a problem with dx'ing people we don't know and people who are dead with a behavioral disability. We don't know so many things about what makes a person tick. And so often, these things can intermingle with other disorders. Everyone who is shy isn't AS, for instance. Everyone with OCD does not have AS. Etc. I know there are a lot of people who dx everyone from tv characters to dead people to their pets with AS. I get that it can be fun to do that and to relate that way. I get more ruffled by it than not just because I think it diminishes the process and the disability. It does not help people take the needs of this community seriously, IMO. One time I talked to a lawyer about my oldest ds who has HFA and also has dyslexia. Well, she said, "Are you sure he's got HFA?" and I realized that many of the traits for one problem could also be attributed to the other problem just as easily. So had she seen a profile of my kid, she would have said "dyslexia" and never went to HFA unless she had met him and taken the appropriate history and evaluations into consideration. So I don't think we can say, "Oh, he can't make friends...he's got AS!" It isn't that simple. A lot of things could be going on that we don't know about. And the same kind of problem can be happening within someone for different reasons than for someone else. Back to stereotypes, not all "middle management" people are not changing the world, or their part of the world and you can't say that they are not worthwhile or doing good things that matter to people. NT people can and do study physics in their free time; the world is full of a variety of people with a variety of interests from casual to obsessive. History is full of those people who made amazing changes to our society in a variety of ways and who are not AS. A lot of genius traits can be similar to traits of other disabilities as well. People with higher IQ's have their own set of problems as well. And people are a mishmash of things, not any one defining thing. I know you want to attribute who you are to a disability (AS) and if that is what makes you happy, then great. But I don't see it that way and I don't have to see it that way in order to love my kids or even to love people who have autism. I don't feel my kids are defined by their disability. As their mother, I am going to love them no matter what is going on - good or bad or in between. That's a mother thing. lol. But autism gets no affection from me. What it does to people is not a good thing. I spent several years working with a kid who has severe autism and I wished so hard to make it go away. He was in there and he was so hampered by autism that he could not function. The amount of effort he had to put forth just to do something simple was astounding. I won't ever look at autism as something good or even a piece of something good. Whatever he did, he did despite having autism, not because of it. Whatever my kids do well, it's because they worked harder than someone without a disability to get there. And that's a credit to who they are! I cheer for them, not for a disability that tried to rob from them. I guess it has a lot to do with experiences with autism within my own family and with my work experience. People have their own ways of coping with this stuff so I see why people want to make it seem like a good thing or make their child's issues seem a gift rather than a problem. I was there once myself in the beginning, trying to make it seem like my oldest ds's problems were somehow going to be good in the end. But I just have learned the hard way over the years that this is not a good thing. It's just how I feel. Roxanna"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke ( ) Parenthood> >> >> >> >> > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head> > realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will> > watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit> > heartbreaking for me to watch.> >> > Thoughts?> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.> >> >> >> >> >> > > >__________________________________________________________> > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.> > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/> > -- > Sent from my mobile device> > -mommy to Emma, Becca, ,> and > > Girl Scout cookies are coming!> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 "Some kids honestly do not have much of a chance to be part of the world, let alone change it, unless they get help with their issues.".... SO TRUE !! From: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Parenthood Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 8:14 AM , you have a habit of making sweeping comments about groups of people - from SAHM's to now middle management people. Not every genius has AS. It's that simple. If your theory were true, all people with AS would be genius's who are out making wonderful inventions and changing the world. But that is not true at all. What else explains Einstein's problems in life? A lot of things could do that. He was human, he was not just a "gifted" man. He had other traits and issues to deal with like anyone else. NT people do not grow up in perfect lives with perfect 50%ile scores in everything. Neither do people who have high IQ's. I also have a problem with dx'ing people we don't know and people who are dead with a behavioral disability. We don't know so many things about what makes a person tick. And so often, these things can intermingle with other disorders. Everyone who is shy isn't AS, for instance. Everyone with OCD does not have AS. Etc. I know there are a lot of people who dx everyone from tv characters to dead people to their pets with AS. I get that it can be fun to do that and to relate that way. I get more ruffled by it than not just because I think it diminishes the process and the disability. It does not help people take the needs of this community seriously, IMO. One time I talked to a lawyer about my oldest ds who has HFA and also has dyslexia. Well, she said, "Are you sure he's got HFA?" and I realized that many of the traits for one problem could also be attributed to the other problem just as easily. So had she seen a profile of my kid, she would have said "dyslexia" and never went to HFA unless she had met him and taken the appropriate history and evaluations into consideration. So I don't think we can say, "Oh, he can't make friends...he' s got AS!" It isn't that simple. A lot of things could be going on that we don't know about. And the same kind of problem can be happening within someone for different reasons than for someone else. Back to stereotypes, not all "middle management" people are not changing the world, or their part of the world and you can't say that they are not worthwhile or doing good things that matter to people. NT people can and do study physics in their free time; the world is full of a variety of people with a variety of interests from casual to obsessive. History is full of those people who made amazing changes to our society in a variety of ways and who are not AS. A lot of genius traits can be similar to traits of other disabilities as well. People with higher IQ's have their own set of problems as well. And people are a mishmash of things, not any one defining thing. I know you want to attribute who you are to a disability (AS) and if that is what makes you happy, then great. But I don't see it that way and I don't have to see it that way in order to love my kids or even to love people who have autism. I don't feel my kids are defined by their disability. As their mother, I am going to love them no matter what is going on - good or bad or in between. That's a mother thing. lol. But autism gets no affection from me. What it does to people is not a good thing. I spent several years working with a kid who has severe autism and I wished so hard to make it go away. He was in there and he was so hampered by autism that he could not function. The amount of effort he had to put forth just to do something simple was astounding. I won't ever look at autism as something good or even a piece of something good. Whatever he did, he did despite having autism, not because of it. Whatever my kids do well, it's because they worked harder than someone without a disability to get there. And that's a credit to who they are! I cheer for them, not for a disability that tried to rob from them. I guess it has a lot to do with experiences with autism within my own family and with my work experience. People have their own ways of coping with this stuff so I see why people want to make it seem like a good thing or make their child's issues seem a gift rather than a problem. I was there once myself in the beginning, trying to make it seem like my oldest ds's problems were somehow going to be good in the end. But I just have learned the hard way over the years that this is not a good thing. It's just how I feel. Roxanna"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke ( ) Parenthood> >> >> >> >> > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head> > realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will> > watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit> > heartbreaking for me to watch.> >> > Thoughts?> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.> > http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 201469230/ direct/01/> > -- > Sent from my mobile device> > -mommy to Emma, Becca, ,> and > > Girl Scout cookies are coming!> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I'm a bid reader too. There are no "rules" to this conversation. I think I am just going to have to shut it off. No matter what example you give, there will be a problem with it. Roxanna Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again. ( ) Parenthood >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head >> > realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will >> > watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit >> > heartbreaking for me to watch. >> > >> > Thoughts? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >__________________________________________________________ >> > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. >> > http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 201469230/ direct/01/ >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> -mommy to Emma, Becca, , >> and >> >> Girl Scout cookies are coming! >> > > > -- Sent from my mobile device -mommy to Emma, Becca, , and Girl Scout cookies are coming! Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. Sign up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 This was a TOTALLY uncalled for comment, !!! And being an Aspie yourself, please understand that you don't know what this is like for us parents of Aspies only what being an Aspie is like. While I feel for you and even agree with SOME of what you have been saying in this thread, there is no need to bash the other members that disagree with your opinions. I think it may be wise to drop the discussion before more hurtful words get thrown around. We parents love and accept our children for who they are and would do anything to help them live happy lives. For some that means searching for a " cure " for others that means social therapy so they can make friends and ace job interviews. There is a lot that goes into helping them, and it has nothing to do with not accepting and loving them. > > > > > > I hope that they do. AS is a disability. It's not like having blue eyes. It is so hard to advocate for help for these kids when people are out there promoting this idea that AS is just a different way of thinking. To that end, I hope the DSM revisions clear this s tuff up or lead a way towards doing that. > > > > > > > > Roxanna > > > > " The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. " E. Burke > > > > > > > > > > ( ) Parenthood > > > > > > > > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to watch. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. > > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en\ -US:WM_HMP:032010_2 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 I agree. I was always really good at math, and my final physics grade was 101% (thanx to extra credit). I received an award for that one. And for the record, I do not have Aspergers or HFA. I have some sensory issues but nothing diagnosed. > >> > > >> > > >> > From: G <fnofsports@ hotmail. com> > >> > Subject: RE: ( ) Parenthood > >> > Aspergers Treatment > >> > Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:54 PM > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > It was a good premier, but I must admit I didn't like some of the > >> > language. > >> > " Suffering " , " somethings wrong with him " , etc. I get that this is the > >> > inital response at that those are probably generally like that, but I > >> > hope > >> > that people don't just watch that episode and have that be their only > >> > opinion. I have to wonder if it will delve into other issues that we > >> > see on > >> > this site, cures, neurodiversity, special education, etc. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > From: kelliangelini > >> > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:49:29 +0000 > >> > Subject: ( ) Parenthood > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head > >> > realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will > >> > watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit > >> > heartbreaking for me to watch. > >> > > >> > Thoughts? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > >> > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > >> > http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 201469230/ direct/01/ > >> > >> -- > >> Sent from my mobile device > >> > >> -mommy to Emma, Becca, , > >> and > >> > >> Girl Scout cookies are coming! > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > -mommy to Emma, Becca, , > and > > Girl Scout cookies are coming! > > > ________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. > > ________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 , Exactly! You said it better than I could have. She drives me insane. And everyone keeps wanting to shove her book down my throat. And I leave you with this quote "If I could snap my fingers and be nonautistic, I would not - because then I wouldn't be me. Autism is part of who I am." --Temple GrandinTemple Grandin is amazing... On Mar 18, 2010, at 4:03 AM, O'Brien wrote: Her son isn’t “CURED” and the biggest thing that drives me absolutely INSANE about McCarthy and the crap she’s feeding the media… is the partial truths. She doesn’t MENTION the money that she’s had to throw hand over fist at the best OT, PT, SL, etc… she hasn’t mentioned the fact that when she walks into a specialists office, they drop everything to assist her. She hasn’t mentioned that they have a personal chef that cooks their GFCF meals. If ANY of us had the access to supports and services she does, and that her son CONTINUES to access, we’d have seen such amazing results, too. But let’s face it… we don’t. I am ALL for supporting celebrities who use their status to help raise awareness on certain topics. But NOT when they aren’t sharing the whole story, and when they are sending out false hopes… AND when they are basing their beliefs about vaccines on “hunches” and coincidental experiences, rather than FACT. Ok, off my soapbox. That’s a pretty touchy subject for me lol =) From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Byrne Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 2:01 AM Subject: Re: ( ) Re: Parenthood Isn't that what McCarthy has basically said? Her son was cured?? On Mar 17, 2010, at 8:23 PM, Gladys wrote: There are parents who claim that their children's Autism was reversed... I was actually watching some of the videos on YouTube earlier this week... You can find them by typing "Autism Reverse" in the search box... > > > > > > > > > I hope that they do. AS is a disability. It's not like having blue eyes. It is so hard to advocate for help for these kids when people are out there promoting this idea that AS is just a different way of thinking. To that end, I hope the DSM revisions clear this s tuff up or lead a way towards doing that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Roxanna > > > > > > "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ( ) Parenthood > > > > > > > > > > > > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to watch. > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? ocid=PID27925: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 032010_2 > > > “Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs “Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 I'm not terribly fond of McCarthy either. She's probably tried so many different things all at once that there's no telling which of them helped. Granted, something probably DID help. I've seen amazing changes in my son over time. I really think maturity helps some things. It's not that the autism ever goes away but is more able to deal with things himself. He's less upset and more engaged when people talk to him. We never did any diets or chelation. I'm trying fish oil right now. It's one of those things that everyone seems to say will do no harm. It's also not all THAT expensive. We're getting OT from school and from Easterseals. It costs money but it mostly covered by our health insurance. If someone could show me statistics, methods sections of well-conducted studies (not someone's opinion of the studies) then I could make more decisions along the lines of alternative treatments. My son sees a chiropractor now. How I'd ever know what has helped and what hasn't is difficult to say. Nobody does just one thing at a time to try to help so it's a mishmash of variables. I've never met anyone who JUST did GFCF. Miriam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope that they do. AS is a disability. It's not like having blue eyes. It is so hard to advocate for help for these kids when people are out there promoting this idea that AS is just a different way of thinking. To that end, I hope the DSM revisions clear this s tuff up or lead a way towards doing that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roxanna > > > > > > > > > > " The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. " E. Burke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ( ) Parenthood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to watch. > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? ocid=PID27925: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 032010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do. " - Steve Jobs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do. " - Steve Jobs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Mriam, I'm so glad you found inexpensive services for your child. Here in California its 120 just for an hour of OT and thats once a week. Play Therapy is 120$ a session. And its 175$ for 30 minutes with a dev ped and we have to go every two months for that or her meds will not be refilled. Its really expensive here. And NO ONE takes insurance. You have to file it all yourself and get reimbursed, which takes forever and most of the time you have to argue with the insurance company to cover it in the first place. Its kind of a bummer, but I've learned to do a LOT at home. And make the best of it. :-D On Mar 18, 2010, at 9:41 AM, mimasdprofile wrote: I'm not terribly fond of McCarthy either. She's probably tried so many different things all at once that there's no telling which of them helped. Granted, something probably DID help. I've seen amazing changes in my son over time. I really think maturity helps some things. It's not that the autism ever goes away but is more able to deal with things himself. He's less upset and more engaged when people talk to him. We never did any diets or chelation. I'm trying fish oil right now. It's one of those things that everyone seems to say will do no harm. It's also not all THAT expensive. We're getting OT from school and from Easterseals. It costs money but it mostly covered by our health insurance. If someone could show me statistics, methods sections of well-conducted studies (not someone's opinion of the studies) then I could make more decisions along the lines of alternative treatments. My son sees a chiropractor now. How I'd ever know what has helped and what hasn't is difficult to say. Nobody does just one thing at a time to try to help so it's a mishmash of variables. I've never met anyone who JUST did GFCF. Miriam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope that they do. AS is a disability. It's not like having blue eyes. It is so hard to advocate for help for these kids when people are out there promoting this idea that AS is just a different way of thinking. To that end, I hope the DSM revisions clear this s tuff up or lead a way towards doing that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roxanna > > > > > > > > > > "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ( ) Parenthood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So what did everyone think of Parenthood last night? For me, my head realizes this is great for awareness (maybe some people in my life will watch and start to get it) but, that being said it was a little bit heartbreaking for me to watch. > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? ocid=PID27925: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 032010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do." - Steve Jobs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do." - Steve Jobs > “Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 I definitely think different things work for different people. I had a very bad time for a while when was first diagnosed with a few people all really giving me a hard time for what I wasn't doing that THEY thought I should be. I have a neighbor a little like that now but I expect I'll get to a point of telling her to just leave off. I'm killing my child with one thing or another, not doing enough, not advocating enough, not doing ABA or dietary things. OMG, it's all up to each parent to figure out what works and they wouldn't leave me be. I finally just stopped spending any time communicating with them, staying away from websites they frequented, etc. We ALL do our best. > > I agree, my nephew was nonverbal at age three, he is now five and considered high functioning. He has had OT and doesn't need it right now. He will be in mainstream kindergarten next year. He is on no special diets, and he's staying with us this week and actually seems higher functioning than my aspie six year old who was highly verbal very early and not even diagnosed until recently. I think different things work for different kids. Really ot has been most helpful for my own son from what I can tell. It is so hard to tell what makes the differences though. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 I had to jump in with - for my son what worked was the combination of everything. He needed it all. I don't want to know where he would be today if he didn't have all those interventions. He still gets some speech, skills, resource room - but the O.T. & P.T. was dropped. He can still use some O.T. to help with running because his run is out of sync and that slows him down with sports. but the schools budget wont allow it. just wanted to share with us - it was everything together that helped most. From: jm.smoldt <jm.smoldt@...> Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 10:48:52 AMSubject: ( ) Re: Parenthood I agree, my nephew was nonverbal at age three, he is now five and considered high functioning. He has had OT and doesn't need it right now. He will be in mainstream kindergarten next year. He is on no special diets, and he's staying with us this week and actually seems higher functioning than my aspie six year old who was highly verbal very early and not even diagnosed until recently. I think different things work for different kids. Really ot has been most helpful for my own son from what I can tell. It is so hard to tell what makes the differences though.>> I think that just follows suit with the saying "If you've met one child with> Autism, you've met one child with Autism" lol They are ALL different. What> works for one, may not work for another. And the claim that if everyone does> what SHE'S done (Yeah right, like most of us even HAVE that option!), our> child will be "cured". Funny part is, her son still has Autism. He's not> "CURED". He's just functioning VERY well thanks to all the supports they've> accessed, and continue to access. He's gotten to a place where he's pretty> much like "all the other 'normal' kids". He's still not CURED.> > =)> > Re: ( ) Re: Parenthood> > Though she's not the only parent of autism that I've heard get a> "cure" from things like a gfcf diet. And I don't blame any parent who> has the $ for trying everything. Locally there are parents who 2nd> mortgage their house, work 3 jobs etc to try and be able to afford all> she can. But it is unfair that her status gets her things we couldn't> even buy. Yes she leaves out a lot of stuff but that doesn't mean> some of the stuff she does say isn't true. I just don't think that> all autistic kids can be "cured" that way. Everything we've tried> hasn't even helped some. But who's to say that any of it didn't> eventually lead to her being hf instead of less?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I so agree with you, Robin! It's one of my "must-see-TV" shows, every week. I love the single mom and her family, maybe the most, but the whole cast is so great! Love the show!!! "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...>Aspergers Treatment Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 11:43:48 AMSubject: ( ) Parenthood Ok,,,,I just got done watching the last Parenthood. When the grampa tells the dad that he's 10 times the dad he was.......oh. ...the tears. I'm loving this show more and more every week. The little dude who plays the kid with AS is really coming into his own. Ahhhhh, Laughter.... ......... ... Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 They broke up When he told her about Jabar… she walked off the houseboat. Funny, you’d be surprised how many people forget that scene I don’t miss her… she wasn’t right for Crosby anyway!! I LOVE the entire show. But I was completely brought to tears on SEVERAL occasions by the storylines this past week! The “meltdown” with the boy who couldn’t find his turtle seemed soooo familiar to me…. =) From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Melody KalomirisSent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:33 PM Subject: ( ) Parenthood I love it too. with a great cast and each sharing an interesting role, there is lots of story potential. And I like the happy ending for each show. Leaves me feeling good, even when the main topics can be pretty heavy. I am confused about what happen to the crosby’s initial girlfriend—the one he promised to have a child with, the one before jasmine. I don’t remember them breaking up. anyone remember, maybe I fell asleep during that scene. Regards, melody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I love this show and am grateful that they are putting Asperges and what parents go through on a daily basis with a child that has Aspergers out there for the nation to see. The producers and writers have done a great job on this show. > > I love it too. with a great cast and each sharing an interesting role, > there is lots of story potential. And I like the happy ending for each > show. Leaves me feeling good, even when the main topics can be pretty > heavy. I am confused about what happen to the crosby's initial > girlfriend-the one he promised to have a child with, the one before jasmine. > I don't remember them breaking up. anyone remember, maybe I fell asleep > during that scene. > > > > Regards, melody > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Yes, the single mom!!! And the single dude who just found out about his son. Love them. I'm glad I stuck it out and kept watching it. At first I was there because of the AS. Now,,,,it's the whole thing!!!! Glad you love it, too!! One funny thing, though. I honestly can't remember anyones' name. ha ha. Don't know why? Can you? Ahhhhh, Laughter................ Robin From: MacAllister <smacalli@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Parenthood Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 3:46 PM I so agree with you, Robin! It's one of my "must-see-TV" shows, every week. I love the single mom and her family, maybe the most, but the whole cast is so great! Love the show!!! "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs (DOT) com>Aspergers TreatmentSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 11:43:48 AMSubject: ( ) Parenthood Ok,,,,I just got done watching the last Parenthood. When the grampa tells the dad that he's 10 times the dad he was.......oh. ...the tears. I'm loving this show more and more every week. The little dude who plays the kid with AS is really coming into his own. Ahhhhh, Laughter.... ......... ... Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Wow.....I can't remember, either. I think I remember something of him telling her....... Heck....maybe I fell asleep, too. Ha. Ahhhhh, Laughter................ Robin From: Melody Kalomiris <mkalomiris@...>Subject: ( ) Parenthood Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 5:02 PM I love it too. with a great cast and each sharing an interesting role, there is lots of story potential. And I like the happy ending for each show. Leaves me feeling good, even when the main topics can be pretty heavy. I am confused about what happen to the crosby’s initial girlfriend—the one he promised to have a child with, the one before jasmine. I don’t remember them breaking up. anyone remember, maybe I fell asleep during that scene. Regards, melody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Thanks, . I couldn't remember. Ugh. Yeah, the meltdown was awesome. And seeing the tough grampa in the doorway watching.....man.........that was good. Ahhhhh, Laughter................ Robin From: O'Brien <nicole.obrien@...>Subject: RE: ( ) Parenthood Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 6:40 PM They broke up When he told her about Jabar… she walked off the houseboat. Funny, you’d be surprised how many people forget that scene I don’t miss her… she wasn’t right for Crosby anyway!! I LOVE the entire show. But I was completely brought to tears on SEVERAL occasions by the storylines this past week! The “meltdown†with the boy who couldn’t find his turtle seemed soooo familiar to me…. =) From: [mailto:AspergersSu pport@group s.com] On Behalf Of Melody KalomirisSent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:33 PM Subject: ( ) Parenthood I love it too. with a great cast and each sharing an interesting role, there is lots of story potential. And I like the happy ending for each show. Leaves me feeling good, even when the main topics can be pretty heavy. I am confused about what happen to the crosby’s initial girlfriend—the one he promised to have a child with, the one before jasmine. I don’t remember them breaking up. anyone remember, maybe I fell asleep during that scene. Regards, melody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 As I get older, I'm starting to wonder if my ability to remember is like a glass. Once it's full (and it is.....), other things HAVE to spill out to make room for either the new bit of info or what I feel is more important at the time. Names on TV just don't make it to my glass. Heck.........I remember faces of people that I honestly know,,,,and can't remember their names for the life of me. Ugh....... Ahhhhh, Laughter................ Robin From: MacAllister <smacalli (DOT) com>Subject: Re: ( ) Parenthood Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 3:46 PM I so agree with you, Robin! It's one of my "must-see-TV" shows, every week. I love the single mom and her family, maybe the most, but the whole cast is so great! Love the show!!! "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs (DOT) com>Aspergers TreatmentSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 11:43:48 AMSubject: ( ) Parenthood Ok,,,,I just got done watching the last Parenthood. When the grampa tells the dad that he's 10 times the dad he was.......oh. ...the tears. I'm loving this show more and more every week. The little dude who plays the kid with AS is really coming into his own. Ahhhhh, Laughter.... ......... ... Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I love it too. Great show!!Aspergers Treatment From: jrisjs@...Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 09:43:48 -0700Subject: ( ) Parenthood Ok,,,,I just got done watching the last Parenthood. When the grampa tells the dad that he's 10 times the dad he was.......oh....the tears. I'm loving this show more and more every week. The little dude who plays the kid with AS is really coming into his own. Ahhhhh, Laughter................ Robin Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 My husband and I cried during the show, and, this week, during the previews for next week. When we saw how excited Max was to help " All those kids with Autism, " we just lost it. That's EXACTLY how excited our son was as he went around my sister's company gathering support for our team in last month's Autism Walk. When we saw the mother crying saying that Max was so excited and he has no idea that he's " one of those kids, " we just LOST it... Bracing myself for next week's episode! And, yes, I love it, too!!! Gladys > > > From: O'Brien <nicole.obrien@...> > Subject: RE: ( ) Parenthood > > Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 6:40 PM > > >  > > > > > > They broke up When he told her about Jabar… she walked off the houseboat. Funny, you’d be surprised how many people forget that scene >  > I don’t miss her… she wasn’t right for Crosby anyway!! >  > I LOVE the entire show. But I was completely brought to tears on SEVERAL occasions by the storylines this past week! The “meltdown†with the boy who couldn’t find his turtle seemed soooo familiar to me…. >  > =) >  > > > From: [mailto:AspergersSu pport@group s.com] On Behalf Of Melody Kalomiris > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:33 PM > > Subject: ( ) Parenthood >  >  > > > > > I love it too. with a great cast and each sharing an interesting role, there is lots of story potential. And I like the happy ending for each show. Leaves me feeling good, even when the main topics can be pretty heavy. I am confused about what happen to the crosby’s initial girlfriend†" the one he promised to have a child with, the one before jasmine. I don’t remember them breaking up. anyone remember, maybe I fell asleep during that scene. >  > Regards, melody > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 ANybody remember the original Parenthood Movie from the '80's with Steve and Rick Moranis? One of my favorite movies. THere are a lot of similarities. Makes me wonder if a teen pregnancy is in the future...like in the movie. > > > > I love it too. with a great cast and each sharing an interesting role, > > there is lots of story potential. And I like the happy ending for each > > show. Leaves me feeling good, even when the main topics can be pretty > > heavy. I am confused about what happen to the crosby's initial > > girlfriend-the one he promised to have a child with, the one before jasmine. > > I don't remember them breaking up. anyone remember, maybe I fell asleep > > during that scene. > > > > > > > > Regards, melody > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 At work I walk from one room to the next and forget why I did?!?!?!Sent from my iPhoneOn 15/05/2010, at 4:03 AM, and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...> wrote: As I get older, I'm starting to wonder if my ability to remember is like a glass. Once it's full (and it is.....), other things HAVE to spill out to make room for either the new bit of info or what I feel is more important at the time. Names on TV just don't make it to my glass. Heck.........I remember faces of people that I honestly know,,,,and can't remember their names for the life of me. Ugh....... Ahhhhh, Laughter................ Robin From: MacAllister <smacalli (DOT) com>Subject: Re: ( ) Parenthood Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 3:46 PM I so agree with you, Robin! It's one of my "must-see-TV" shows, every week. I love the single mom and her family, maybe the most, but the whole cast is so great! Love the show!!! "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." From: and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs (DOT) com>Aspergers TreatmentSent: Thu, May 13, 2010 11:43:48 AMSubject: ( ) Parenthood Ok,,,,I just got done watching the last Parenthood. When the grampa tells the dad that he's 10 times the dad he was.......oh. ...the tears. I'm loving this show more and more every week. The little dude who plays the kid with AS is really coming into his own. Ahhhhh, Laughter.... ......... ... Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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