diets

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<< For those following Blood Type and Zone diets, to hear the other side of

the

> issue, you might want to read this article: >>

Why would I want to read the veg site when the ER4YT diet has saved my life.

I have never felt better in years. I have energy, lost weight, look

younger, my aches and pains are gone. WHY? And why is vegsource & Klapper

so threatend by the ER4YT diet. I will tell you why--ego. Anyone that is

engrossed in his own ego can neither see objectively nor perceive the truth.

We have suffered great disasters because of such attitudes.

Please tell me how to unsubscribe to this sight.

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jawlaw@... wrote:

> From: jawlaw@...

>

> For those following Blood Type and Zone diets, to hear the other side of the

> issue, you might want to read this article:

> http://www.vegsource.com/klaper/diet.htm.

>

I find this doctor to be biased himself to orthodoxy and vegan vegetarianism. In

re blood type diets I think some of his objections are facile nonsense. His

concern that people have been scared to the point they fear kidney beans is

absurd. OK he doesn't like it. I would like to see him follow his own advice and

show evidence agglutination isn't bad.

Personally, I never read the book, just followed the list, and I feel better

eliminating certain things from my diet and adding others. It's not my religion.

What's the big deal? IMO, this vegan doctor is making too much ado over too

little, using ridicule instead of the scare method he accuses d'Adamo of. He's

too narrow-minded for my taste.

But many of his points are well taken.

jim

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[Guest guest]

How do I get more info on this? a

Re: Diets

From: SanteeNo1@...

<< For those following Blood Type and Zone diets, to hear the other side of

the

> issue, you might want to read this article: >>

Why would I want to read the veg site when the ER4YT diet has saved my life.

I have never felt better in years. I have energy, lost weight, look

younger, my aches and pains are gone. WHY? And why is vegsource & Klapper

so threatend by the ER4YT diet. I will tell you why--ego. Anyone that is

engrossed in his own ego can neither see objectively nor perceive the truth.

We have suffered great disasters because of such attitudes.

Please tell me how to unsubscribe to this sight.

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a,

You can do a search on hGH or go to te link I put in the first post to the site

that sells what I am offering. They have all the information on this product.

jim

" Gutierres, a " wrote:

> From: " Gutierres, a " <a.Gutierres@...>

>

> How do I get more info on this? a

>

> Re: Diets

>

> From: SanteeNo1@...

>

> << For those following Blood Type and Zone diets, to hear the other side of

> the

> > issue, you might want to read this article: >>

>

> Why would I want to read the veg site when the ER4YT diet has saved my life.

>

> I have never felt better in years. I have energy, lost weight, look

> younger, my aches and pains are gone. WHY? And why is vegsource & Klapper

> so threatend by the ER4YT diet. I will tell you why--ego. Anyone that is

> engrossed in his own ego can neither see objectively nor perceive the truth.

>

> We have suffered great disasters because of such attitudes.

>

> Please tell me how to unsubscribe to this sight.

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi there

I'm fairly familiar with the carbohydrate addict's diet (I followed it for

2 months a couple of years ago) - it definitely reduced my carb cravings,

but I don't actually remember what effect (if any) it had on my IBS. IBS

is driving me crazy right now, so I have other priorities like coming off

caffeine and a couple of other things.

Remember the Carb Addict's Diet allows you fairly substantial quantities of

carbs, albeit once a day only, and only after a salad and with some protein

and veg. If you have a carb problem the CA's Diet may be a good start, and

then you can reassess the situation when you have the cravings under

control.

Hope this helps

Annemarie

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[Guest guest]

Dear Amy,

You can complain all you want to we are all in this mess together and I have

to say that I am so gratefull for each and every one of you. Myra

Diets

From: " Tom Fratto " <tomf@...>

Has anyone heard of the Carbohydrate Addicts Diet? I just recenty bought

the book on it and am hoping that if I follow this diet, it will help to

ease my cravings for carbs. My boyfriend thinks that this is just another

one of my ways to not follow an anti yeast diet. If there is anyone that

does not know what the Carb Addicts Diet is, basically for 2 meals of the

day you can eat non/low carb foods, then for 1 meal you can eat the carbs

that you want, but you have to finish that meal within an hour. I know that

this may sound like it is a foolish diet for me to even think about going

on, but I need to do something. I have such carb cravings. My boyfriend

has been following the Body Ecology Diet for almost 2 months now. I have

also, but only off and on. Not only has he lost 15 pounds, but the best

part is that most of his symptoms have faded to almost non-existence. I

know that when I eat less carbs, I feel better but I can't seem to do it.

Forgive me, those of you who keep listening to me whine about how hard of a

time I have. I really appreciate this place to vent my feelings and

frustrations over this issue. My IBS has been acting up this past week and

even that doesn't seem to get me to be able to follow this diet.

Thanks Again,

Amy

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On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Tom Fratto wrote:

> From: " Tom Fratto " <tomf@...>

>

> Has anyone heard of the Carbohydrate Addicts Diet? I just recenty

> bought the book on it and am hoping that if I follow this diet, it

> will help to ease my cravings for carbs. My boyfriend thinks that

> this is just another one of my ways to not follow an anti yeast diet.

> If there is anyone that does not know what the Carb Addicts Diet is,

> basically for 2 meals of the day you can eat non/low carb foods, then

> for 1 meal you can eat the carbs that you want, but you have to finish

> that meal within an hour. I know that this may sound like it is a

> foolish diet for me to even think about going on, but I need to do

> something. I have such carb cravings. My boyfriend has been

> following the Body Ecology Diet for almost 2 months now. I have also,

> but only off and on. Not only has he lost 15 pounds, but the best

> part is that most of his symptoms have faded to almost non-existence.

> I know that when I eat less carbs, I feel better but I can't seem to

> do it. Forgive me, those of you who keep listening to me whine about

> how hard of a time I have. I really appreciate this place to vent my

> feelings and frustrations over this issue. My IBS has been acting up

> this past week and even that doesn't seem to get me to be able to

> follow this diet. Thanks Again, Amy

You know, the faster and more absolutely you cut the carbs,

the easier and faster the craving to eat them goes away.

AFAIK, it takes a few days for the body to switch the metabolism

from sugars and start utilizing fats, etc, and until then you will

be dying for them. IMO, if you keep eating a little, you're just

torturing yourself. (Doesn't change the fact that most of us would

still be ready to kill people to be able to eat the stuff we want,

but..)

The best way to keep yourself from eating carbs is to keep yourself

filled with everything that you *can* eat. Make sure you have no room.

:-)

++ J

[Guest guest]

I have to agree that diets don't work. That is the mentality that I had

for so long and that became very dangerous for me. I can only speak for

myself here. When someone tells me I can't have something, I will have

it just to spite them. But I have found out that is only hurting me in

the long run. The changes I am making in my life today are made by me.

I am not dieting but I am eating. I enjoy food and I don't think there

is anything wrong with that. I have given up certain foods for health

reasons but I am not depriving myself. I am only making a change for

the better and there is always a substitute for something. I am tired

of the yo-yo dieting syndrome. Or whatever you want to call it. I

liked what Karma shared from the book she was talking about. Our bodies

do need time to heal from all of the damage that we have done to them

over the years. All we can do it take it one day at a time....

Thanks,

Michele S.

[Guest guest]

Aisha Elderwyn wrote:

"I agree that you should check with

your doctor but many are ignorant about diets, supplements, etc."

In Australia you can go to a dietician... do these exist in other

parts of the world?

Yes, my Gramma was a hospital dietitian even. She retired when I

was in first or second grade I think. She is now 90.

But YES, we have dietitians in the USA. They are very common especially

in the diabetes clinics. I saw one when I was still on HUGE doses

of steroids, because I had that Beached Whale look!

That's my $0.02----

Anne

[Guest guest]

Speaking of diets: Last June I went on the low-carbohydrate diet which is

being

followed by a lot of people these days. Books like Protein Power, Suzanne

Somers,

Schwartzbein Principle, etc. and many more maintain that early man ate meat,

meat, meat. The diet was quite a shock as I ate very little meat before and

did

a lot of organic juicing. I couldn't believe I was eating foods I had

forgotten

existed: real mayonnaise, sour cream, butter, heavy cream, etc. What is

eliminated

entirely is all white flour products, all sugar, and much high carbohydrate

food.

I didn't lose weight, which is not the main point, but restoring health.,

since fat is supposedly turning to muscle because of

the fat and protein, but I began to feel tremendously Good. wonderful mood,

etc. Also, I had had intestinal problems for years: constipation diarrhea,

gas, AAAAhg. Really bad. The second day of the diet...the intestinal

problems

just stopped. though there was no weight loss, I didn't want to give up the

diet, as I felt so much better. oh, Yes, as Dr. Schwartzbein predicts, in

spite

of no weight loss, I lost three inches in my waist and 3 in my hips.

dorothy

[Guest guest]

I have really enjoyed the bantering back and forth about evolution... BUT

we all have to accept the fact that we all have different opinions and

beliefs. AND we are again slightly off-topic unless we are just sticking to

the diet subject. In some ways we drift towards religion/spirituality

issues when we start on evolution, God, monkeys, etc. I like being able to

exchange information without getting our feelings hurt or being defensive if

someone disagrees with our core beliefs. I for one, believe that eating

some meat is good, but I also believe that vegetables and fruits should be

included in our diets. If someone else disagrees with me, that's certainly

OK. That's what makes this planet an interesting place to live. We have

the freedom to be and think ....Now let's talk about diets !

KAT

[Guest guest]

If early man ate meat, meat, meat, then he ate it RAW, RAW, RAW, and

that is not the same as Big MAc's. And, even if it''s raw, if you eat a

diet too high in protein, including tofu, you will create an acid

environment and will begin the hypoxia syndrome.

jim

dbates3809@... wrote:

>

> Speaking of diets: Last June I went on the low-carbohydrate diet which is

> being

> followed by a lot of people these days. Books like Protein Power, Suzanne

> Somers,

> Schwartzbein Principle, etc. and many more maintain that early man ate meat,

> meat, meat.

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[Guest guest]

I am sorry Jim, but you are wrong! I am living proof. Your theory is

badly flawed. I am speaking from experience not what somebody thinks or

the way they want it to be to fit their beliefs. Most people who preach

that story are doing it for profit!

Charlie

[Guest guest]

Charlie,

What are you talking about? You make the mistake of deleting all the

message you are answering, leaving nothing with which to reference that

to which you are responding.

jim

cpj1on1@... wrote:

>

> I am sorry Jim, but you are wrong! I am living proof. Your theory is

> badly flawed. I am speaking from experience not what somebody thinks or

> the way they want it to be to fit their beliefs. Most people who preach

> that story are doing it for profit!

> Charlie

>

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carpe diem, carpe pucunia, carpe femina. -- Jim Lambert

jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

http://www.entrance.to/poetry

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz,

Is it any wonder you look so fantastic that your husband is making comments

about how great you look?

You are one of the most dedicated women I know. If anyone deserves to see

results it is you. You are consistently on track. I think what I love most is

that you keep your focus without stressing about it. Life is too short to let

stress overcome it. Slow and easy, gentle and deliberate, that is the way to

follow a program that will give you long term success.

Your method of simply cutting back on your eating is a good one. If you can

leave a few bites behind at each meal it will surprise you how much it will help

you succeed in your weight loss efforts. Eating smaller portions along with

drinking plenty of water can be key is reaching your goal. That along with all

of the Life Lift breaths that you do daily, without fail is the reason you are

our incredible shrinking woman.

I am always inspired by you!

Love,

Rashelle

Be sure to check out all of the great specials available on my web sites. All

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Hi Everyone,

You're probably sick of me saying this, however I know that there are

some new people on our list, maybe they haven't heard it.

I find that just cutting back on my eating just a little along with

breathing is causing me to lose lbs. Most of you are probably familiar

with Weight Watchers. On their program I'm suppose to eat 26 or 27 points

a day in order to lose weight. I've been eating 30 to 32, this along with

breathing is working for me. Other than the initial 8 lbs. that I lost

when I started breathing I haven't been able to lose anymore lbs. until

I started eating a little less. I've lost 11 lbs. in the last few months

or so. I've been losing inches consistently with LL however cutting back

on my eating is also causing me to lose inches quicker. Of course

drinking a lot of water is also really important.

Love, Liz

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sweet Rashelle!!!!! You made it easy for me by creating LL and

sharing it with us. :-) Who would ever have guessed that something so

gentle and relaxing could be so effective. Wow!!!!!

The words about saving a few bites for the birds at every meal that you

wrote in the last newsletter is really helping me. Every time that I eat

a meal now I try and save a few bites, I don't always succeed, but I'm

getting better and better at it. :-)

Love, Liz

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Hi Liz,

Is it any wonder you look so fantastic that your husband is making

comments about how great you look?

You are one of the most dedicated women I know. If anyone deserves to see

results it is you. You are consistently on track. I think what I love

most is that you keep your focus without stressing about it. Life is too

short to let stress overcome it. Slow and easy, gentle and deliberate,

that is the way to follow a program that will give you long term success.

Your method of simply cutting back on your eating is a good one. If you

can leave a few bites behind at each meal it will surprise you how much

it will help you succeed in your weight loss efforts. Eating smaller

portions along with drinking plenty of water can be key is reaching your

goal. That along with all of the Life Lift breaths that you do daily,

without fail is the reason you are our incredible shrinking woman.

I am always inspired by you!

Love,

Rashelle

[Guest guest]

Hello Sweet Liz,

Thanks for always letting me know that Life Lift is helping you create the body

you want so easily.

I am so happy to hear that some of the information in my newsletter has helped

you.

It is funny how a simple thing like leaving those few extra bites at each meal

can add up to so much in rewards over time.

I appreciate all of your positive messages. You always give me a reason to feel

happy.

Take good care,

Rashelle

Be sure to check out all of the great specials available on my web sites. All

new workout videos and audios are on sale now!

Save on the Large Body Wrap package. Some sales have been extended.

Visit us at http://www.lifelift.com

Statistics show that those who belong to a support group are more successful in

reaching goals.To join our discussion support group click here:

http://www.topica.com/lists/LifeLiftbreathers

Thanks Sweet Rashelle!!!!! You made it easy for me by creating LL and sharing

it with us. :-) Who would ever have guessed that something so gentle and

relaxing could be so effective. Wow!!!!!

The words about saving a few bites for the birds at every meal that you wrote

in the last newsletter is really helping me. Every time that I eat a meal now I

try and save a few bites, I don't always succeed, but I'm getting better and

better at it. :-)

Love, Liz

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[Guest guest]

I get this magazine--it is pretty good.

& Garry, parents of (11 ds), (10 ds), JJ (7

ds/autism/celiac), (7 ds/ADHD/Celiac), and Esther (4 ds). All adopted.

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>From: " UrthMan " <outerspace@...>

>< >

>Subject: diets

>Date: Mon, Nov 19, 2001, 6:39 AM

>

>F.Y.I.

>(Just in case anyone is interested). . .

>

>

><<<I am writing an article for the magazine called Living Without. It is a

>publication that deals with certain diets. They have a lot of info on the

>GFCF diet. They are just getting into the autism world, and that is why I

>am writing this article. I would appreciate it if anyone who has been on

>the diet could privately e-Mail me the problems as well as the benefits

>that they have had with the GFCF diet. Also please indicate how long it

>took before you saw any benefits. Let me know if you have any objection to

>my printing of your name. By the way, the magazine is very informative. I

>have included the web address.

>http://livingwithout.com/

>

>Thanks,

>

> Herskowitz

>walkman975@... >>>>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/28/2002 5:52:51 PM, aburton@... writes:

<< Anyone on the listserve on WeightWatchers or have done WeightWatchers

recently? I have questions, and maybe chitchat?

>>

I'm doing it right now, It's the best diet for me. It's so easy and alowys

you to eat normally.

The only thing is the weight chart for Average folks is not proportionate for

LP's. So what I do is take the lightest menu they have. As well as follow the

Hopkins weight chart.

[Guest guest]

You may want to ask the listserve " LPsHealth " , where we all discuss

diets, fitness, and low fat eating.

In dwarfism@y..., " Burton " <aburton@s...> wrote:

Anyone on the listserve on WeightWatchers or have done WeightWatchers

recently? I have questions, and maybe chitchat?

[Guest guest]

At 2:53 PM -0700 1/28/02, Burton wrote:

>Anyone on the listserve on WeightWatchers or have done

>WeightWatchers recently? I have questions, and maybe chitchat?

>

>

>

I was very successful in loosing 25 pounds through WW program

(although to tell you the truth, I could loose another 25 if I had my

heart's desire). That was almost a year and a half ago. I still

play with the 5 pounds now and then. It took six months to loose the

25. Email me if you have any questions or want to chat.

/ Ginny

mailto:chriss@...

[Guest guest]

Carole K,

I am also on WW and I find it very easy to follow - and am slowly losing my prednisone weight and hope to get to the "can't get off the sofa and sugar sure sounds like it might give me energy" weight. I guess then it's on to the "stress" stuff - I've got a ways to go but I find my eating is nicely satisfied and so is my sweet tooth. Also since beef makes encephalopathy worse, it's good that it is sooooo many points so I have another motivation not to eat it very often:)

Good for your folks - I'd love to see my inlaws do something like that, too!

Amy

[Guest guest]

Dear Marcy,

I think I would be very nervous about the Atkins diet - it is very hard on the liver. Ask for a referral to a dietician/nutritionists who deals with diabetes and would have info on liver disease. They can give you good advise for eating and losing weight safely (not that I've done very well!). It seems to fit pretty well with Weight Watchers, too, if you are looking for a group. It's a terrific opportunity to help teach your son healthy, low fat, eating while he's still young. Maybe he'll be able to avoid diabetes and the extra rolls many of us seem to be carrying around.

Good luck!

Amy

[Guest guest]

Carole, this is just wonderful. I am hoping that something will happen

for me too…but so far, all I have done is gained 15 pounds this summer.

I am really beside myself, but there is nothing more that I can actually do.

My friend is coming in November and stay a week. She is going to help me get

started on WW and I hope that will help. OK…well, congrats!

Debby

[ ] Diets

I see we have more who want to lose weight. It

is so hard to do when

dealing with this disease. I gained over 50

pounds after they put me

on the prednisone. Have since lost a grand

total of 70 pounds.

Still want to drop another 16. But those

last 16 are the hardest. I

decided when I was finally off the prednisone I

was going to lose it

all. But I never really went on a diet per

say. I upped my protein

a bit - not a bunch like on the atkins diet.

Just enough to boost my

metabolic rate. I then dropped my starch

intake. Not completely,

just cut back - and made sure any I did have was

whole grains. Then

changed everything I put in my mouth to either

lowfat or fat free. I

replace starch at dinner time with a second

vegi. I still eat some

starches at lunch and breakfast - just careful not

to go over board.

I make sure I am only eating because I am hungry -

and not just

eating to be eating. And I make sure to take

a sec when I reach for

something and stare it down and ask myself if it

is the healthiest

choice I could be making. I am not always

good, but usually am. I

have done just about every diet under the

sun. I have a hard time

with them. If I have to be so restrictive,

then I am sure to cheat.

Even on weight watchers after a bit. With

having to be so detailed

on what I ate, I found myself feeling obsessed

with food, and being

hungrier and eating more in the end. I was

thinking of what foods I

could fit in at lunch when I was still eating

breakfast - not a good

thing when you are trying to lose. So I

think the best diet is to

just put it in your mind to choose healthy, you

can't lose with

that. Well actually you will lose with

that! Weight that is! Good

luck!

Love,

Carole

[Guest guest]

Thanks to all who are writing regarding nutrition. I tried the Atkins Diet

over three decads ago and developed--of all things--psoriatic looking

lesions on my arms!! I did not seek treatment because the skin problems

disappeared shortly after the diet did.

I really appreciate all the points of view I am collecting, together with

the moderation of the moderators!

What a powerful resource we can be for each other.

With gratitude,