Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I know I want to heal my gut. I've dappled with the SCD, but not noticed anything different, symptom-wise - though I probably wasn't doing enough probiotics. And when I started eating (limited) starches again, I actually felt better. Due to food intolerances in dd (and less so, myself), we're currently gluten, dairy, soy, egg, almond, eggplant and corn-free. And less strictly, other nuts, peanuts, and beans. Basically, we eat a lot of meat and farmer's market veggies. What are the major differences in the two diets? How do you choose one over the other? And what are my choices for probiotics? I think I've finally just decided once and for all that dd is reacting to the baby-dophilus (with casein and soy), so I'm on the market for something new. I'm thinking that fermented veggies might be the easiest/best for us, but I don't know how much we'd have to be eating in order to really benefit. Are water kefir and kombucha off-limits? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Actually fermented veggies are best for those who have well working intestinal tracts. They are too acidic for someone with leaky gut. Raw and fermented veggies can be very irritating on the lining. Your best bet for now (until you have healed some) is to saute your veggies in lots of fat (ghee, olive oil, coconut oil, etc...) You can also steam them and eat with lots of fat. I had orginally thought that fermented veggies would be great because of the good bacterial...which is true...but again, they are just too acidic for your gut right now. A good probiotic supplement would be better. The best I've heard of so far are: Bio-Kult, ThreeLac and Paradophilis Spray. Blessings on you and your daughter's healing, Wrote:I'm thinking that fermented veggies might be the easiest/best for us, butI don't know how much we'd have to be eating in order to reallybenefit Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Why is acidic bad? Doesn't it just get mixed with stomach acid? - And isn't acidic good in the stomach? On Jan 11, 2008 5:14 PM, Vick <serving_yhvh@...> wrote: > > Actually fermented veggies are best for those who have well working > intestinal tracts. They are too acidic for someone with leaky gut. Raw and > fermented veggies can be very irritating on the lining. Your best bet for > now (until you have healed some) is to saute your veggies in lots of fat > (ghee, olive oil, coconut oil, etc...) You can also steam them and eat with > lots of fat. > > I had orginally thought that fermented veggies would be great because of the > good bacterial...which is true...but again, they are just too acidic for > your gut right now. A good probiotic supplement would be better. The best > I've heard of so far are: Bio-Kult, ThreeLac and Paradophilis Spray. > > Blessings on you and your daughter's healing, > > > > > > > Wrote: > I'm thinking that fermented veggies might be the easiest/best for us, but > I don't know how much we'd have to be eating in order to really > benefit > > ________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Acid in the stomach is the design. That acid must be neutralized for the small and large intestine, though. I've never heard that fermented veggies are not good for leaky gut. Raw cabbage juice is a well-known tonic to heal intestinal permeability. Anne Re: [ ] GAPS vs BED? Why is acidic bad? Doesn't it just get mixed with stomach acid? - Andisn't acidic good in the stomach?On Jan 11, 2008 5:14 PM, Vick <serving_yhvh > wrote:>> Actually fermented veggies are best for those who have well working> intestinal tracts. They are too acidic for someone with leaky gut. Raw and> fermented veggies can be very irritating on the lining. Your best bet for> now (until you have healed some) is to saute your veggies in lots of fat> (ghee, olive oil, coconut oil, etc...) You can also steam them and eat with> lots of fat.>> I had orginally thought that fermented veggies would be great because of the> good bacterial...which is true...but again, they are just too acidic for> your gut right now. A good probiotic supplement would be better. The best> I've heard of so far are: Bio-Kult, ThreeLac and Paradophilis Spray.>> Blessings on you and your daughter's healing,>> >>>>> Wrote:> I'm thinking that fermented veggies might be the easiest/best for us, but> I don't know how much we'd have to be eating in order to really> benefit>> ________________________________> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Yes, it is natural for us to have an acidic enviroment in our "stomachs" inorder to begin the disgestive process. However, our "intestines" should have a alkaline enviroment. See this article to understand the entire digestive process: http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/digestion_primer.html Too much acid going into the small intestines is very irritating on the lining and does not promote healing. I can not prove this because I have not yet located a good factual medicle article but I have read it serveral places. For my own experience I must say that my diarrhea was pretty bad while eating fermented foods. After taking them out, my stools did harden and I felt allot less bloated. But I will say that as soon as I have allowed for more healing, I will begin eating fermented foods again because they are much easier to digest than raw veggies. And the nutrients are increased through fermentation AND they have good bacteria in them. I hope to find more info on this soon and I will share more. Why is acidic bad? Doesn't it just get mixed with stomach acid? - Andisn't acidic good in the stomach? Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 It's my understanding that bile made by the liver and released by the gallbladder neutralizes the chyme coming from the stomach. Since the chyme is so acidic naturally, it's pretty important that this step is working. What I don't understand is how eating acidic foods would change the pH of the stomach enough that the bile can't do it's job completely. Wouldn't the regulation mechanisms of HCl in the stomach and the bile keep a pretty constant pH, regardless of the pH of the food that is provided? On Jan 12, 2008 10:49 AM, Vick <serving_yhvh@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, it is natural for us to have an acidic enviroment in our " stomachs " > inorder to begin the disgestive process. However, our " intestines " should > have a alkaline enviroment. See this article to understand the entire > digestive process: > http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/digestion_primer.html > > > Too much acid going into the small intestines is very irritating on the > lining and does not promote healing. I can not prove this because I have not > yet located a good factual medicle article but I have read it serveral > places. For my own experience I must say that my diarrhea was pretty bad > while eating fermented foods. After taking them out, my stools did harden > and I felt allot less bloated. But I will say that as soon as I have allowed > for more healing, I will begin eating fermented foods again because they are > much easier to digest than raw veggies. And the nutrients are increased > through fermentation AND they have good bacteria in them. > > I hope to find more info on this soon and I will share more. > > > > > > > > Why is acidic bad? Doesn't it just get mixed with stomach acid? - And > isn't acidic good in the stomach? > > > > > ________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it > now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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