Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 Hi Dave I'm giglbut I will be starting soon for treatment can you tell me how it was and if you did it alone --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote: > > Welcome Fluffy's DIL. I had to think about that for > a while, but I'm guessing it's short for > daughter-in-law? Anyway, my name is Dave, I'm from > Green Bay, WI. I found out I had hcv a couple of > years ago. I completed the treatment last December > and am currently undetectable. I'll go back in July > to see if the devil has returned. If you like to > just 'listen' for a while and chime in when you're > ready, please do. We look forward to hearing more > from you. -dz- > gandcwaltke <gandcwaltke@...> wrote: Hello, > > I am Fluffy's DIL. Just wanted to introduce myself. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 We finally got my DIL on last night. Since they work during the day we may not see a whole lot of them. I am so grateful they are here. It sure helps me to know that if they have questions they have a place to ask them now. Fluffy. Re: [ ] Hello Welcome Fluffy's DIL. I had to think about that for a while, but I'm guessing it's short for daughter-in-law? Anyway, my name is Dave, I'm from Green Bay, WI. I found out I had hcv a couple of years ago. I completed the treatment last December and am currently undetectable. I'll go back in July to see if the devil has returned. If you like to just 'listen' for a while and chime in when you're ready, please do. We look forward to hearing more from you. -dz- gandcwaltke <gandcwaltke@...> wrote: Hello, I am Fluffy's DIL. Just wanted to introduce myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 I think I sort of answered that on my last post. I wasn't alone. I managed it ok, with a little depression and mostly a lack of energy. I never felt suicidal, just kind of listless. I think depression would be the biggest challenge living alone. Nobody to notice if you are getting severely depressed, I would make sure to have some contact when and if you do start feeling that its all a bit too much. -dz- debbie henning <giglebutt2002@...> wrote: Hi Dave I'm giglbut I will be starting soon fortreatment can you tell me how it was and if you did italone --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:> > Welcome Fluffy's DIL. I had to think about that for> a while, but I'm guessing it's short for> daughter-in-law? Anyway, my name is Dave, I'm from> Green Bay, WI. I found out I had hcv a couple of> years ago. I completed the treatment last December> and am currently undetectable. I'll go back in July> to see if the devil has returned. If you like to> just 'listen' for a while and chime in when you're> ready, please do. We look forward to hearing more> from you. -dz-> gandcwaltke <gandcwaltke@...> wrote: Hello, > > I am Fluffy's DIL. Just wanted to introduce myself.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 Dave - what was it like being on the treatment? I think that will be occuring sometime in the near future for me and I wonder - I'm so crippled up now will it get worse once I am on the treatment? Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 And we may not be with you physically, but we're an e-mail away. If you need ANY moral support, we're here. Sharon --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote: > > I think I sort of answered that on my last post. I > wasn't alone. I managed it ok, with a little > depression and mostly a lack of energy. I never felt > suicidal, just kind of listless. I think depression > would be the biggest challenge living alone. Nobody > to notice if you are getting severely depressed, I > would make sure to have some contact when and if you > do start feeling that its all a bit too much. -dz- > debbie henning <giglebutt2002@...> wrote: Hi > Dave I'm giglbut I will be starting soon for > treatment can you tell me how it was and if you did > it > alone > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote: > > > > Welcome Fluffy's DIL. I had to think about that > for > > a while, but I'm guessing it's short for > > daughter-in-law? Anyway, my name is Dave, I'm from > > Green Bay, WI. I found out I had hcv a couple of > > years ago. I completed the treatment last December > > and am currently undetectable. I'll go back in > July > > to see if the devil has returned. If you like to > > just 'listen' for a while and chime in when you're > > ready, please do. We look forward to hearing more > > from you. -dz- > > gandcwaltke <gandcwaltke@...> wrote: > Hello, > > > > I am Fluffy's DIL. Just wanted to introduce > myself. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 Hi Pat. Terry from Az here. My main thing is I am tired all of the time. Terry Donahoe <patsella@...> wrote: Dave - what was it like being on the treatment? I think that will be occuring sometime in the near future for me and I wonder - I'm so crippled up now will it get worse once I am on the treatment? Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 There wasn't too much physical pain for me. Body aches, such as you might have with the flu. The treatment sapped my energy pretty good. Just take it as easy as possible and drink, drink, drink that water. -dz- Donahoe <patsella@...> wrote: Dave - what was it like being on the treatment? I think that will be occuring sometime in the near future for me and I wonder - I'm so crippled up now will it get worse once I am on the treatment? Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 ARE you still in the 'back row'........Oops! has to behave herself HaHa!! arlene from Oregon WILLIAM A WALTKE wrote: Now will you go and look what I have done. My DIL is on the group nowI gots to behave myself for sure. HA! Long time in coming and I toldher to ask any questions they might have. Told her you were a greatbunch of people ... Fluffy Re: [ ] Hello Welcome to the group. My name is Terry. I live in southwestern Az just outside of Phoenix Terry gandcwaltke <gandcwaltke@...> wrote: Hello, I am Fluffy's DIL. Just wanted to introduce myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 I am back and waving just as nice as you please. LOL Re: [ ] Hello Welcome to the group. My name is Terry. I live in southwestern Az just outside of Phoenix Terry gandcwaltke <gandcwaltke@...> wrote: Hello, I am Fluffy's DIL. Just wanted to introduce myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 In a message dated 4/29/2002 8:49:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, hilt0270@... writes: > I take Calcium > suppliments to treat the conditions(400% my daily value) I'm still > trying to figure the level thats right for me. Weeda, You must be careful with the timing of taking calcium and thyroid medicine as calcium prevents absorption of thyroid medicine. Here's a link to an article on Thyroid.About.com: <A HREF= " http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa092101a.htm?terms=Calcium " > http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa092101a.htm?terms=Calcium</A> You may be able to help yourself immensely by just reading all the information about this aspect of HypoT and making the correct timing changes! My blood tests have > > been low each time, I get mad because nothing seems to be working. Do you mean your TSH test is coming back very low (like under 1) yet you're still experiencing hypo symptoms? Or is your TSH test coming back very high? > > I have a question for you all suffering from HypoT. Are there some > certain foods you can not eat because it makes you feel bad the next > day. I hope I'm not the only one. If I eat alot of pizza, I can > barely think the next day, perform work funcions, like I'm dazed and > my mind will not allow me to think because of it. > I must say that when I eat foods with flour in them I get the same reaction. And white, refined flour that's in pizza dough is absolutely the worst for me! Personally, I don't like pizza for that reason but if you really dig it, you might try making your own with a whole grain pita bread and adding lots of veggies and less cheese. I do so much better the less flour I eat; you might, too. I finally found a bread I could make sandwiches from that has no flour. I learned about it here on this list! It is make from sprouted grain and you can usually find it in health food markets like Whole Foods, though I've noticed a few mainline grocery supermarkets are carrying it. One brand name is Ezekial Bread though there are local brands that can be just as good. Be careful to read labels as the " complete protein bread " Ezekial makes has millet in it which is anti-thyroid. And so is soy. So, I look for sprouted grain breads made with barely, wheat (a last resort), or rye. (I think there is so much wheat everywhere and in everythaing these days that's why I only buy sprouted wheat if there's nothing else available.) If you were to try eliminating flour from your diet for a week or two, you might notice a difference in your thinking! Good luck! in LA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 >If I eat alot of pizza, I can >barely think the next day, perform work funcions, like I'm dazed and >my mind will not allow me to think because of it. Sounds the same as me. You might have coeliac disease: http://www.celiac.com/ Coeliac disease is known to cause hypothyroidism and diabetes. These guys can perform tests on you: http://www.enterolab.com I'm now on this diet: http://www.paleofood.com http://www.paleodiet.com http://www.neanderthin.com Kat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Weeda, Once your condition is correctly treated and your thyroid function has been normalized it will not matter much what you eat. Meanwhile, however, take a look at www.drdebe.com/BARRIERS.htm towards the bottom of the page. Dr. Debe states, " Many foods have a negative effect on thyroid hormone synthesis, secretion, conversion, and elimination. These include: cabbage, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, turnips, mustard greens, peanuts, walnuts, almonds, sorghum, cassava, bamboo shoots, maize, mustard greens, onions, grapefruit, apples, millet, pinenuts, kale, and cauliflower. Individuals with an under active thyroid should reduce or eliminate these foods from their diet until thyroid function is normalized. " Best wishes for great health, Celeste Weeda wrote: > I am new here, hope to learn some things from others who have the > same illness. I just found out just last year that I have this > condition and ever since then, my life has changed. I have Idiopathic > Hypothyroidism, the doctors don't know why I have it. I take Calcium > suppliments to treat the conditions(400% my daily value) I'm still > trying to figure the level thats right for me. My blood tests have > been low each time, I get mad because nothing seems to be working. I > have a question for you all suffering from HypoT. Are there some > certain foods you can not eat because it makes you feel bad the next > day. I hope I'm not the only one. If I eat alot of pizza, I can > barely think the next day, perform work funcions, like I'm dazed and > my mind will not allow me to think because of it. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Hi..In regards to foods best not consumed...listed in books for the condition we have is raw cabbage, califlower, kale, white flour (pizza crust), white sugar, peanuts, soy products, and there are more that you can find in " Living Well With Hypothyroidism " . I was diagnoised with this thyroid problem years ago and was treated with Armour and never told about foods that are determental for us. I thought I was cured since the dr. decided that my 97 degree temp. even after treatment, was evidently normal for me. The very low blood pressure still remains. I have been eating fresh cabbage and califlower almost daily for years plus peanuts and was shocked to discover in the last week that I had been unknowingly messing up my health. After reading the symptoms on the internet, I had a huge light bulb moment in regards to the why of my weight gain, depression, foggy thinking,dry skin, etc. I saw on this web site about over the counter thyroid help and bought some, quite eating the foods daily that were not good for me and began to make me a power drink in the morning that works wonders. 1 c. thawed orange juice (not canned), 1 or 2 bananas, 1-2T flax seeds, 1-2 t. dried kelp powder, and 1/2 c. fresh alfalfa sprouts. Put all in blender and blend thouroly and drink. I take my over the counter thyroid helper first thing in the morning becuse , then it will absorb better with no compition with anything else. I know that each body works differently but perhaps this info. will help others. --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Are you on thyroid medicine or just calcium? > Everyone-- > > I am new here, hope to learn some things from others who have the > same illness. I just found out just last year that I have this > condition and ever since then, my life has changed. I have Idiopathic > Hypothyroidism, the doctors don't know why I have it. I take Calcium > suppliments to treat the conditions(400% my daily value) I'm still > trying to figure the level thats right for me. My blood tests have > been low each time, I get mad because nothing seems to be working. I > have a question for you all suffering from HypoT. Are there some > certain foods you can not eat because it makes you feel bad the next > day. I hope I'm not the only one. If I eat alot of pizza, I can > barely think the next day, perform work funcions, like I'm dazed and > my mind will not allow me to think because of it. > > Weeda > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 what are you taking as an over the counter thyroid helper? Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: nobody <smilecollecter@...> I take my over the counter thyroid helper first thing in the morning becuse , then it will absorb better with no compition with anything else. I know that each body works differently but perhaps this info. will help others. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 Right now I'm taking thyro complex. I take one early in the morning..1 or 2 hours before I eat or take any other supplements. It has small doses of thyroid, pituitery, adrenal, spleen, thymus and hypothalamus. I've only taken it for 4 or 5 days so I don't know if it's working yet. I feel pretty good most of the time. --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 Are you also taking thyroid drugs? --- nobody <smilecollecter@...> wrote: > Right now I'm taking thyro complex. I take one > early in the morning..1 or 2 hours before I eat or > take any other supplements. It has small doses of > thyroid, pituitery, adrenal, spleen, thymus and > hypothalamus. I've only taken it for 4 or 5 days so > I don't know if it's working yet. I feel pretty > good most of the time. > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 Thank you Katrina, I'm gonna check it out ASAP, I also find that I have stomach pains when I eat eggs too. The same effects when I eat a lot of mashed potatoes also... Please tell me if you have these same problems. Hilt Katrina wrote: > > >If I eat alot of pizza, I can > >barely think the next day, perform work funcions, like I'm dazed and > >my mind will not allow me to think because of it. > > Sounds the same as me. You might have coeliac disease: > > http://www.celiac.com/ > > Coeliac disease is known to cause hypothyroidism and diabetes. > > These guys can perform tests on you: > > http://www.enterolab.com > > I'm now on this diet: > > http://www.paleofood.com > http://www.paleodiet.com > http://www.neanderthin.com > > Kat. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 Kathy, My doctor said I didn't need to take thyroid suppliments, just Calcium. K & T wrote: > what are you taking as an over the counter thyroid helper? Kathy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: nobody <smilecollecter@...> > I take my over the counter thyroid helper first thing in the morning > becuse , then it will absorb better with no compition with anything > else. I know that each body works differently but perhaps this info. > will help others. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 It's hard to tell exactly what bothers you or causes you pain until you remove the gluten and casein from your diet. You might find that potatoes and eggs do not bother you once you remove grains and dairy. These substances damage your digestive system and allow all sorts of undigested proteins to enter the blood stream. I found a lot of my allergies and other food intolerances went away once I started the paleo diet. Prior to finding out my coeliac status I used to end up in hospital at least twice per year from an anaphylaxis attack. It hasn't happened once since then. Before changing your diet, I recommend that you get tested, as your tests will come up negative if you are not eating gluten and dairy on a regular basis. " Recent research in our laboratory indicates that immune sensitivity to gluten is exceedingly common, present in 30-40% of all Americans. " - http://www.enterolab.com " A diet high in legumes, carbohydrates, and grains could be making you ill. Why would a diet high in post-agricultural-era foods be detrimental to our health? Because these foods are foreign to our bodies. Our genes have not had the time nor the evolutionary pressures to adapt to these new foods " - http://www.healingcrow.com/dietsmain/paleo/paleo.html " For the percentage of people with autoimmune hypothyroidism who have celiac disease, diagnosis and a gluten-free diet may represent a permanent cure for their hypothyroidism. " - http://www.ithyroid.com/celiac_disease1.htm Regards, Katrina. At 01:34 PM 4/30/2002, you wrote: >Thank you Katrina, > >I'm gonna check it out ASAP, I also find that I have stomach pains when >I eat eggs too. The same effects when I eat a lot of mashed potatoes >also... > >Please tell me if you have these same problems. > > Hilt > >Katrina wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Share Posted May 1, 2002 Kat, have you considered NAET? I've started taking my dd for this. I noticed someone on the list has also used it. Kathy > It's hard to tell exactly what bothers you or causes you pain until you > remove the gluten and casein from your diet. You might find that potatoes > and eggs do not bother you once you remove grains and dairy. These > substances damage your digestive system and allow all sorts of undigested > proteins to enter the blood stream. I found a lot of my allergies and > other food intolerances went away once I started the paleo diet. Prior to > finding out my coeliac status I used to end up in hospital at least twice > per year from an anaphylaxis attack. It hasn't happened once since then. > > Before changing your diet, I recommend that you get tested, as your tests > will come up negative if you are not eating gluten and dairy on a regular > basis. > > " Recent research in our laboratory indicates that immune sensitivity to > gluten is exceedingly common, present in 30-40% of all Americans. " - > http://www.enterolab.com > > " A diet high in legumes, carbohydrates, and grains could be making you ill. > Why would a diet high in post-agricultural-era foods be detrimental to our > health? Because these foods are foreign to our bodies. Our genes have not > had the time nor the evolutionary pressures to adapt to these new foods " - > http://www.healingcrow.com/dietsmain/paleo/paleo.html > > " For the percentage of people with autoimmune hypothyroidism who have > celiac disease, diagnosis and a gluten-free diet may represent a permanent > cure for their hypothyroidism. " - http://www.ithyroid.com/celiac_disease1.htm > > Regards, > > Katrina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Unless a person has leaky gut syndrome (which is not very common), there is no way for undigested anything to enter the bloodstream. Absorption of anything one ingests occurs on a cellular and molecular level. Things which are undigested simply become part of the feces because there's no way for them to be absorbed. If you are eating a lot of things that you can't digest then you get diarrhea. Whenever in doubt, see a doctor and get her/him to help you find out what's really going on. Celeste Katrina wrote: > It's hard to tell exactly what bothers you or causes you pain until you > remove the gluten and casein from your diet. You might find that potatoes > and eggs do not bother you once you remove grains and dairy. These > substances damage your digestive system and allow all sorts of undigested > proteins to enter the blood stream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 What is dd? And can you tell us more about NAET? How it works, what has been your experience? Cost/ Time involved? I see reference to it occasionally but know no one who " has been there. " Thanks! Ann Re: Hello Kat, have you considered NAET? I've started taking my dd for this. I noticed someone on the list has also used it. Kathy > It's hard to tell exactly what bothers you or causes you pain until you > remove the gluten and casein from your diet. You might find that potatoes > and eggs do not bother you once you remove grains and dairy. These > substances damage your digestive system and allow all sorts of undigested > proteins to enter the blood stream. I found a lot of my allergies and > other food intolerances went away once I started the paleo diet. Prior to > finding out my coeliac status I used to end up in hospital at least twice > per year from an anaphylaxis attack. It hasn't happened once since then. > > Before changing your diet, I recommend that you get tested, as your tests > will come up negative if you are not eating gluten and dairy on a regular > basis. > > " Recent research in our laboratory indicates that immune sensitivity to > gluten is exceedingly common, present in 30-40% of all Americans. " - > http://www.enterolab.com > > " A diet high in legumes, carbohydrates, and grains could be making you ill. > Why would a diet high in post-agricultural-era foods be detrimental to our > health? Because these foods are foreign to our bodies. Our genes have not > had the time nor the evolutionary pressures to adapt to these new foods " - > http://www.healingcrow.com/dietsmain/paleo/paleo.html > > " For the percentage of people with autoimmune hypothyroidism who have > celiac disease, diagnosis and a gluten-free diet may represent a permanent > cure for their hypothyroidism. " - http://www.ithyroid.com/celiac_disease1.htm > > Regards, > > Katrina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Hi Greg's wife..Nice to see ya again..The questions will come as you need them..Trust me there wil be plenty..Glad to hear you are going to a Hep group..It'll help ya alot..If we can help just ask ok!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 I think right now the fatigue issues for Greg are some of the more pressing. Perhaps too the list can tell you more about that and brain fog. They can tell you more of the viral load questions and such as well Love Mom ( Fluffy) [ ] Hello It's me!! Thh new kid on the block. I am very excited that my husband and I get to go to our first class on hep c. Is there any Q's that we should be asking? Well we will hang out for a whileGreg's wife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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